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Title: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: rosehelp99 on February 18, 2011, 06:06:06 AM
I'm at the guardian in the Isle of the Mists. I got to the part where he says i must become a druid to get past, and the Archdruid tells me i have to show the guardian I am one with nature. How do I do that?
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 06:12:20 AM
Explore the other islands again. You may get an opportunity to show that you are a friend to nature.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: rosehelp99 on February 18, 2011, 06:13:51 AM
I thought the butterfly might show that, but I don't know how to get it from the web :O
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 06:15:44 AM
If only there was a good place nearby to get helpful if random items! ;)

EDIT: There's more than one item you'll need to help the butterfly--try things in your inventory and if none of those work, explore some other places, too, for something that might help.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Wyrenth on February 18, 2011, 09:44:05 AM
I'm stuck on the same puzzle. I've explored everywhere I thought I could, though I'm not sure if the Isle of the Beast is accessible due to a glitch (map is green, but access is blocked). If I knew if the glitch was a simple error or a major game-stopper, I could eliminate that island from my search.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 09:49:34 AM
The Isle of the Beast is not yet accessible.

[spoiler]To get the butterfly away from Black Widow, you need an item from the Isle of Mist.[/spoiler]

After that....

[spoiler]You'll need another item to get the butterfly free from the webbing. This item's name is very obvious in how it will help you. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Wyrenth on February 18, 2011, 09:53:20 AM
Okay, good, I can ignore that isle then.

Still figuring out the second part of this. Realized I hadn't solved another puzzle, now checking that freshly opened room to see what I can find.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Cez on February 18, 2011, 11:11:47 AM
just to be sure you don't have a glitch, you are able to get past the gates in the Isle of Wonders, right?
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Wyrenth on February 18, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
No, it's locked again. Which is the logical thing to do, but I have a feeling that's not supposed to happen since you're bringing it up.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 12:11:39 PM
It's not. If you start a new Episode 3 game, I believe, it doesn't happen--the gate *should* be open and you definitely need it to be to play and finish the Episode.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: wilco64256 on February 18, 2011, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Wyrenth on February 18, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
No, it's locked again. Which is the logical thing to do, but I have a feeling that's not supposed to happen since you're bringing it up.

No it's actually not supposed to be re-locked.  You'll want to start a new episode 3 game rather than continuing from your episode 2 autosave, we're working on fixing this and hopefully we'll have a patch up to correct it today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Wyrenth on February 18, 2011, 12:25:19 PM
Alright. I have a sneaky suspicion that loading from EP2 is what's caused the animation glitches I reported in the Tech thread, too, as they seem to be functioning normally in a fresh EP3 game.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: daventry on February 18, 2011, 01:06:53 PM
Where do i get this Item to get the Webbing off the Butterfly  ???

Any idea how i should take off the Poison from the Flower, because i keep Poisoning my Daughter  :-[
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 01:15:28 PM
[spoiler]Read some books and you might get an idea how to not poison anyone.

Also, if you look around, you'll find an item whose name makes it very clear it's for freeing the butterfly. [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: daventry on February 18, 2011, 01:45:07 PM
Im trying to get Air and Water for the Flower, but they dont work, [spoiler]or if you count the Voice of the Banshee as Air.[/spoiler]

Be more Specific on getting the Web off please
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: wilco64256 on February 18, 2011, 01:47:43 PM
Quote from: daventry on February 18, 2011, 01:45:07 PM
Im trying to get Air and Water for the Flower, but they dont work, [spoiler]or if you count the Voice of the Banshee as Air.[/spoiler]

Be more Specific on getting the Web off please

[spoiler]You won't be able to do the air and water stuff until much later in the episode, so don't worry too much about that just yet.  The voice of the banshee is no longer in the flower so it doesn't count for either of those anyway.

To get the web off you'll need an item that Hakim has for trade in the pawn shop.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: daventry on February 18, 2011, 01:58:53 PM
The Game keeps telling me the Pawn Shop Owner is not there, so what do i do to actually make him be there
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: wilco64256 on February 18, 2011, 02:01:49 PM
[spoiler]Oh he won't be there until you actually RESCUE the butterfly.  If it's still trapped in Black Widow's web then you need to get it out of there first.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: daventry on February 18, 2011, 02:03:10 PM
Then i just encountered a Bug, because i rescued the Butterfly and its in a web in my Pocket
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: wilco64256 on February 18, 2011, 02:04:03 PM
Try wandering out a bit, maybe go visit the castle.  When you come back he should open up shop.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: NW15 on February 19, 2011, 06:09:13 AM
Quote from: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 09:49:34 AM
The Isle of the Beast is not yet accessible.

[spoiler]To get the butterfly away from Black Widow, you need an item from the Isle of Mist.[/spoiler]

After that....

[spoiler]You'll need another item to get the butterfly free from the webbing. This item's name is very obvious in how it will help you. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I cannot seem to find anything on Isle of Mist? I did find a stick, but I used that already to get the net. So, how to I get the butterfly because it will not let me use the net.[/spoiler]

(Posted on: February 19, 2011, 04:39:34 AM)


Quote from: NW15 on February 19, 2011, 05:39:34 AM
Quote from: KatieHal on February 18, 2011, 09:49:34 AM
The Isle of the Beast is not yet accessible.

[spoiler]To get the butterfly away from Black Widow, you need an item from the Isle of Mist.[/spoiler]

After that....

[spoiler]You'll need another item to get the butterfly free from the webbing. This item's name is very obvious in how it will help you. [/spoiler]
[spoiler]I cannot seem to find anything on Isle of Mist? I did find a stick, but I used that already to get the net. So, how to I get the butterfly because it will not let me use the net.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]Is the stick? Because if it is, it is not letting get it back. Graham is not climbing back up to get it. It tells the item is too big for him to carrying.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: KatieHal on February 19, 2011, 06:48:50 AM
[spoiler]I'm not sure what item you're referring to in the last part of your post there. But yes, you need that stick back. What kind of thing do kids usually use when they want to catch butterflies? Try making one of those.  [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: TheDeceiver on February 19, 2011, 10:43:38 AM
Where did you find the goddamn stick? I've been looking for it all day long :(
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: drunkenmonkey on February 19, 2011, 10:46:52 AM
[spoiler]The stick is on the Isle of the druids.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: TheDeceiver on February 19, 2011, 11:03:53 AM
Yeah, but where exactly? I've looked everywhere, including the Stonehenge and the Arch Druid's house, and touched everything tree-like or made of wood. Tough luck  ???
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Sousuke on February 19, 2011, 11:14:59 AM
Stick location
[spoiler]The stick is in the circle of stones near the firepit on the isle of mist. It almost blends in with the ground so you have to look carefully. If you've already used the stick to prop something up and need it back, you need to get into position first like before. I noticed the clicking is kind of hit or miss in this part, so that might be the problem.

The pawn shop owner came back to his shop for me after I had gotten into a certain guarded room in the castle.[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: drewboy52 on February 19, 2011, 02:47:44 PM
Okay, I'm also a bit stuck getting past the guardian and could use a little help.  I know that I need to be a friend to nature by freeing the Butterfly.  I've got all my original items from Chap 2 after leaving Valanice.  I've also got the stick, skull and candle.  I know I am supposed to make a butterfly net to free the butterfly net, since I couldn't use just the stick.  I just can't figure out what I am supposed to combine with the stick to make the net.  None of my inventory items seem to be doing the trick.  Can someone please direct me as to where I should be looking for another item?  To the exact location specifically please?  Is the other item also on the Isle of Mist?  Any help with this would be very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: night-owl on February 19, 2011, 02:57:14 PM
[spoiler] Have you tried exploring the Isle of Wonder yet? [/spoiler]
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: drewboy52 on February 19, 2011, 03:32:53 PM
I was stuck trying to make progress there before.  I did manage to get past the snapdragons and get the seashell.  Thanks.  Any hints on how to avoid getting my head cut off?
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: Arkillian on February 19, 2011, 03:48:19 PM
Drewboy- Ever tried preventing it from happening?
Title: Re: Stuck at Guardian
Post by: drewboy52 on February 19, 2011, 08:11:58 PM
Thanks for everyone's help with all the hints.  I finally did manage to get past the guardian.  Now I'm trying to figure out how to get past the next challenge.