I learned yesterday that I have been accepted into an art school that I aplied to!
*congratulates Pindarus*
*accepts congratulations* Thanks.
Awesome! 'Grats!!
yay!! that is grrrreeeeeaaat news!! congratz!
*does funny dance*
*gives a crystal umbrella*
...so when do you start with your new school?
A crystal umbrella! Wow thanks. I guess that it starts in August, but I'm not sure.
Yes, congratulations. But don't tell any of my engineering pals I said that. :D
Why?
Congrats Mary Jane! !!!
Quote from: Renfrew on April 25, 2004, 12:42:20 PM
Why?
There's an underground war between engineers and artsy fartsy folk. :D
Mainly, it's stuck up engineers who hate art students because the books they read have plots. Well, plots that don't involve graphs of some sorts of mathematical theorems or equations. :P
Hmmm, I would be jealous too. ;)
Yeah, but Art has better girlz than Engineering! ;B
That wouldn't have anything to do with potential naked models, would it? ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: J-ROC on April 25, 2004, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Renfrew on April 25, 2004, 12:42:20 PM
Why?
There's an underground war between engineers and artsy fartsy folk. :D
soooo trueee :(
Im not an artist, Im a "designer", and even so both my brothers are a******* most of the time cuz of it, they are both engineers, so yeah... tell me about it :(
Quote from: Yonkey on April 25, 2004, 07:58:45 PM
Yeah, but Art has better girlz than Engineering! ;B
Oh my, good heavens, do they ever! :D
Jael: Can your parents get me a job? :D
lol, i never heard about those engineering wars ; ) ...i wonder what side i would be on :S ...i think i would be on neither side, cuz i have something against wars and stuff :'(
Well, in Canada, they're pretty non-violent. North American engineers are pretty much just a part of the crowd...no one cares that they're engineers.
I've been told in south America that engineers are held in very high regard, and they also hold themselves in high regard.
Not too sure about other places in the world, though.
I just made fun of art students at university because it seemed like they had so much time to socialize and talk and blah. But at the same time, those artsy fartsies can do sooo much more than I can. Just a different set of interests and talents, really.
QuoteJael: Can your parents get me a job?
Do you fancy moving to Brisbane, Australia? Otherwise I don't think I'm much use to you. Sorry :-[.
QuoteI just made fun of art students at university because it seemed like they had so much time to socialize and talk and blah. But at the same time, those artsy fartsies can do sooo much more than I can. Just a different set of interests and talents, really.
Hey, look! Just because I've got the
time to do it doesn't mean I
do! I mean,I'd kinda have to have friends for that :suffer: ;P
I agree about different sets of interests, though. You have no idea how highly I regard engineers, scientists, etc. because they can do what I find impossible. I'm pretty smart, but only in the humanities - hence the arts/law degree :) I only passed maths with my mum's help, and science/technology might as well be written in a foreign language. On the other hand, some of my very intelligent science-orientated friends have said they wished they had my talent for creativity. I guess we all want what we can't have. Ah well :) [/lecture]
Congratz Mary Jane !!!
Goodluck with your Art ;)
Quote from: Jael on April 26, 2004, 02:47:33 AMOn the other hand, some of my very intelligent science-orientated friends have said they wished they had my talent for creativity. I guess we all want what we can't have. Ah well :) [/lecture]
Most of the times, science-intelligence and creativity don't go together. I know, I'm one of the science-intelligent ones. :-X
:o :o sientists are sience-intelligent!! ...and they are creative too!! ; ) ...I mean, perhaps not art-creative (although they might)
...but they are creative, creative in their thinking... they have to, in order to invent new things and come up with new solutions
... ughh, I mean, i consider myself creative in my line of work... I won't try drawing and such, cuz i can't, but I am creative in my thinking though ;] ....at least, i think i am ; )
Holla for Pindarus/Renfrew/Optimus Prime/whatever else his name is!!/!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
QuoteThere's an underground war between engineers and artsy fartsy folk.
I'm starting to think it's more of a love/hate relationship actually. Apparently all the engineering guys like arts girls better (I don't get why - someone want to shed some light on that for me ???), and I've been told the best place to look for guys is in the engineering department. Seriously.
Not that I've ever tested this theory. Having to
walk all the way over to the opposite side of the campus is far more effort than I'm ever prepared to put into a relationship ;P. Possibly why I'm perpetually single. Ah well. :)
Haha, the Arts building is on the other side of campus here too. Interesting... ;P
Anyway, there aren't that many girls in Engineering (with the exception of Chemical Engineering which seems to have a lot more than the other ones in my school at least). So, the few girls that are here... well let's just say that there are way better ones in Art. ;P
And when I took my electives, I've had courses with way more of an even distribution of girls. They all seemed to be way better looking than the Engineering ones. ;D Well, that's not to say that all the Engineering ones are fugly, they just mostly aren't my type, per se. ;)
QuoteWell, that's not to say that all the Engineering ones are fugly, they just mostly aren't my type, per se.
Hahahahahaha! All that side-stepping must keep you very fit ;P. Tread carefully, Yonkey, I know many attrctive female engineers :)
I'd agree though. Male/female split in arts and law is skewed in favour of the girls, and most of the guys in my courses are so alike in intellectual interests, etc. that I'd never really want to start a relationship. If, (
IF, mind you :P) I wanted a boyfriend I'd probably go for someone different to me - like engineering, where (presumably) there is also a larger proprtion of single males.
*cough*imabigfatsexysinglengineer*cough* :D
No, no, no....someone has my heart right now.
And you'd also have to fight off koko. She's all over me like white on rice! :D
Fight me off him?? Girl, you can have him!
And many congrats to Rhett for his acceptance!
Cat
*reads her previous post*
Sorry. Unless I've typed something in an invisible font that you can read and I can't, I don't see "J-ROC! I'm madly obsessed with you! Are you single?" ;P. Also, you might want to check my profile. I'm 18 - eight years younger than you. That's practically pedophelia :-X
Thanks for the gracious offer, Koko, but I'll decline.
Cat: Oh, you seem tough and uncaring on the outside, but I see through your facade! :D
Quote from: Jael on April 28, 2004, 09:17:14 PM
I'm sorry. Unless I've typed something in an invisible font that you can read and I can't, I don't see "J-ROC! I'm madly obsessed with you! Are you single?" ;P. I wouldn't hold your breath waiting for it either. Also, if you'd bothered to check my profile, you'd know that I'm 18 - eight years younger than you. That's practically pedophelia :-X
*re-reads own post*
Hrm...I don't recall suggesting you said that either. I would moreso call it "dropping you a hint". Funny how it was also in the form of a "joke". I guess those little smileys can be a bit deceiving!
As for the age thing, I could bring up the legal standpoint, completely ignoring the moral standpoint. But I'm not THAT sleazy. My rule is half my age + 7. So that makes 20 my minimum age.
No worries youngin', your precious self is safe from big bad Jimbo.
Haha. Sorry J-ROC. That last post was pretty mean ;]. I was only joking with you though. Good to know I have nothing to fear :D
Yeah, the only person who should fear me here is Racx. *cracks knuckles*
As for you joking, yeah, it's hard to tell with new folk. I tell ya, if I had a dime for every time I upset someone when I was just joking, I wouldn't be "unemployed" right now, I'd be "retired". :D
It's all good.
Awww...how sweet...now all they have to do is kiss and make up...but wait...that's outside James' age limit...well, I guess no kisses...
*now if only I can convince Internet Jason that kissing him is illegal*
Cat
Yeah, no kisses. Legal or moral. :)
Hugs...I'm wicked at hugz...
QuoteYeah, the only person who should fear me here is Racx. *cracks knuckles*
As for you joking, yeah, it's hard to tell with new folk. I tell ya, if I had a dime for every time I upset someone when I was just joking, I wouldn't be "unemployed" right now, I'd be "retired".
It's all good.
Again, very sorry J-ROC. I have that problem too. My greatest talent is being able to pull off a sarcastic remark with a completly sincere expression, which isn't as useful as it sounds. I inadvertently end up making my friends hate me :-[. I should really stop doing it.
QuoteAwww...how sweet...now all they have to do is kiss and make up...but wait...that's outside James' age limit...well, I guess no kisses...
No kissing. Definatly no kissing.
See...sarcasm can be fun! *huggles everyone online* I luv ya all!
Cat
Quote from: Jael on April 28, 2004, 09:47:03 PM
Again, very sorry J-ROC. I have that problem too. My greatest talent is being able to pull off a sarcastic remark with a completly sincere expression, which isn't as useful as it sounds. I inadvertently end up making my friends hate me :-[. I should really stop doing it.
Oh, I don't do the sarcasm with a straight face...I do the sarcasm with a very disgruntled look on my face. My unpleasant side knows no moderation. :-/ Also not a good thing...unless you like burning bridges. :(
QuoteSee...sarcasm can be fun! *huggles everyone online* I luv ya all!
Cat
*Hugs Cat back* <3 ;D
Cat...shouldn't you be cleaing this sarcasm, not encouraging it? You have work to do, missy! :P
Hahah, I have to agree with Jael. I'd rather go out with someone completely different than me than someone way too similar (even worse, someone I've been competing with for the past 3 years). Also, there are some really attractive girls in engineering too, but probably from the intellectual & personality standpoint, they're not my type. Also, I've only noticed this in university. In high school it was almost the complete opposite. :o
I wish I could say that looks don't matter, nor intelligence or personality; but the truth is the girl has to have a good quantity of all of the above or she's not my type. ;B
By the way, that's my opinion in general and not specific to girls in Art, Engineering or any discipline. XD
(confused look)
I just never understood the whole "opposites attract" concept. I've had several "opposite" friendships, and one "opposite" relationship, and I found all of them to be OK at best, and usually pretty mediocre.
The one guy I dated was totally opposite from me, and it was completely unsatisfying. I couldn't talk to him about any of the things I liked or was good at, because he didn't understand and/or care about them. And he couldn't talk to me about any of his interests because I didn't understand and/or care about them. The few things we did have common knowledge of we had completely opposite tastes/views on. So all we ever did was argue.
Then there was my best gal pal. We also had completely different tastes and personalities. I liked her, but we just sort of talked *at* each other about our lives and interests. And we admitted we could never figure out each other's motivations and personalities. Whenever we did something, it was usually pretty one-sided... one day she'd do stuff she liked and I'd sort of neutrally tag along, and one day we'd do stuff I liked, and she'd sort of neutrally tag along. So we had days of me vacantly following her around as she shopped for clothes, and her vacantly following me around as I looked around the local museums, for instance.
Then I met Harrison, and it was like... finally I have someone who likes some of the same TV shows and movies as I do so I don't have to watch them alone. Finally had someone who likes doing some of the same things as me so I don't have to do them alone. He thinks about the world enough like me that we can talk to each other and usually understand where the other is coming from. (We don't always agree, but we understand each other.) I finally have someone I can be around where I don't feel like a complete freak compared to them.
So, I mean... what exactly is the attraction of someone completely different than you? How do you actually connect on anything, have anything to talk about or do together, or relate to each other? Never worked for me at all.
I find I'm usually drawn to being friends with or being romantically interested in people who are similar to me. Not completely similar, but close enough that there's a lot of commonality with just enough difference to make things interesting. I very seldom have a great deal of interest in hanging out with someone who's very different than me, even if I think they're a good person. Am I just weird/doomed? :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Jeysie, there you go bringing up Harrison again. Will you just get together with him already?? GEEZ!!!
Anyhow, I have to agree. Opposites attract has never been a good theory by me. But similar people piss me off because I am a difficult to get along with person. There's got to be a nice mixture of sameness and difference or it just isn't gonna be pretty.
Whoops, maybe I should clarify a bit. I'm not attracted to people that are the complete opposite of me, and I'm not attracted to people that are too similar to me. I find those both to be extremes and personally I don't like either.
Having common interests and things to talk about is really great. In fact, all of my close friends have something(s) in common with me, which is probably why they are close friends and not aquaintances.
However, there are things about my personality that I dislike (I'm sure everyone has them) and if I detect them in other people, I usually lose immediate interest before it gets too late. Heh, I'm being vague on purpose here, but I'm sure we all do the same thing in some form or another.
I guess the whole attractiveness about opposites is the "mystique" part of it. 8) You get to learn more and more about the person then more you know them. Actually, one of the reasons I don't like extremely outgoing people (by this I mean the obnoxious-drunks-at-a-bar type of outgoing) is because I feel like I know their life story within the first 10 minutes of meeting them. Sadly, the majority of the time that's the truth! XD
Well, I *hate* it when girls play hard-to-get because then I think they hate me. And then SIX months later, they tell me they've liked me for six months. Of course, the real problem was that I wasn't attracted to her, I just thought she was cool in a friend way. But then, six months of her playing hard to get while i'm just trying to be friends....*sigh* One more example of women not making any sense. Ever.
The Miss Enigma thing doesn't work for me either. Sure I want to get to know other people, but I don't want it to be *work*.
Thanks to all!
Quote from: Jael on April 28, 2004, 09:17:14 PMAlso, you might want to check my profile. I'm 18 - eight years younger than you. That's practically pedophelia :-X
Only 8 years younger? My mother is 7 years younger than my father, so what's your problem? XB
IRL, I'm a shy type too. I have
never approached a girl, which is probably an important reason of me still being single. :-\ On the Internet or in e-mails, I have no problem 'approaching' a girl, and after a while, I might suggest a RL-meeting. But, going up to a girl in RL, no way, at least not in the way of asking her out on a date. ;]
Our auditor (at work) had a new (female) collaborator last time, and I had to sum up all the guts that I had just to ask
her name. ::)
I dunno how old your parents were when they got married, CC, but a 7 year difference between an 18 year old and a 25 year old, is different than between a 23 year old and a 30 year old, and is different than between a 45 year old and a 52 year old... it's pretty relative. IMHO, the older you get, the greater the span of years in a given "Life Experience Level"... so you can have someone a greater distance in age than you, but still be on the same wavelength of where you are in life.
Or something like that.
As for being shy around the opposite sex in particular... yeah, almost anyone's going to get nervous asking someone out on a *date*, for sure. But just *talking* to a member of the opposite sex... never been a problem for me. (Well, apart from general problems with talking to people I don't know well.)
I mean... the only major fundamental difference between me and a member of the opposite sex is our basic anatomy... most other differences are just going to be ones of different personalities and upbringings, and thus cannot be determined simply by gender. Therefore, I never felt more nervous over simply talking to a guy I don't know than I do talking to a girl I don't know.
As for romance... I think it's better to get to know someone as a friend first before you ask them out, so that makes things a little easier. (At least you know that if they reject you, they'll be nice about it. :P )
Your mileage may vary, of course. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on April 30, 2004, 03:21:03 PMI dunno how old your parents were when they got married, CC,
IIRC, my dad was 28, so my mom would have been 21.
QuoteAlso, you might want to check my profile. I'm 18 - eight years younger than you. That's practically pedophelia
Only 8 years younger? My mother is 7 years younger than my father, so what's your problem?
QuoteI dunno how old your parents were when they got married, CC, but a 7 year difference between an 18 year old and a 25 year old, is different than between a 23 year old and a 30 year old, and is different than between a 45 year old and a 52 year old... it's pretty relative. IMHO, the older you get, the greater the span of years in a given "Life Experience Level"... so you can have someone a greater distance in age than you, but still be on the same wavelength of where you are in life.
Sorry, CC. My reply was
really harsh. I was feeling pretty nasty and sarcastic that day :-[.
Actually, there's 8 years between between my mum and dad. They were 30 and 22 when they married. I've never had a problem with it. But, as Jeysie said, it's relative. My mum was extremely mature for her age - it was probably a good decision. And I'm not saying I won't do the same. But when you're fairly young, huge age gaps aren't tempting.
Also (not saying that I was justified in what I wrote :-[), I am only 18, but I could pass for 23-24 if I wanted to. I just seem to look so much older than I am. This has the unfortunate side-affect of me actually getting hit on by
middle-aged men at work/public transport/etc because they think I'm about 5 years older than I really am, and this happened
before I was 18. It's really embarrasing and intimidating to have to point out my real age. That's partly why I'm more inclined to someone the same age as me.
QuoteHee, I like Jael... she's better at essay-writing than I am!
;D <3 ;D
We all like Jael! ;D btw, do you have yahoo messenger or MSN? That way, we can get online and hear from you...that why, when you're in a sarcastic mood, we'll know!
While we're talking about ages, my parents are only two years apart, but they got married when Momma was 18 and Daddy was 20...but, like Jael said about her mother, both my parents were extremely mature for their young ages! And 29 years later, they're still married (amazing in today's society!)
Cat
Quotebtw, do you have yahoo messenger or MSN? That way, we can get online and hear from you...that why, when you're in a sarcastic mood, we'll know!
I don't have either, but I could probably get MSN. Timezones might cause some difficulties, though. I live in Australia - the opposite side of the world to nearly everyone else :(
Of course, Jeysie, if you act like you're expecting a guy to say no to you, he's probably going to say no because you don't act like you want him to say "yes", right? So then you have yourself a catch-22:
You could expect him to say no so that you're hopes don't get dashed...and then he says no because that's what you're expecting!
Heheheh, Jael...some middle aged men hit on anyone who's younger than them. I have a friend who's 16, looks about 14, and was working at this restaurant for a while.....the stories she told...>shakes head< Ewwww.
It's possible, Questie... but since I usually wait until I've known a guy for at least a few weeks before I ask, I'm not sure how much that might actually affect things. (Truth be told, subtlety isn't one of my strong points, so it's probably fairly obvious I like a guy before I come out and say it. :P )
As for parental age... my mom was 27 and my dad was 25 when they got married (and the first marriage for both), so I've definitely got a different perspective on the matter. ;)
Then there's the fact that I had a friend who was in a teenage parent school for a while, and she was not only one of the oldest girls there at 16, but also the only girl where the father of her kid was under 20. :P I know that most older men-younger woman relationships aren't like that, but it's still got a stigma of distaste for me.
And... I know exactly how you feel, Jael! I've had thirties-to-middle-aged men hitting on me ever since I was 15. (There was also the time when I was 8, and I had a couple of 15-year-olds try hitting on me... that was just creepy.) In my case, they actually think I'm their age, too, because when I tell them my real age, they practically run. :P What's even more frustrating is that guys my own age won't even give me the time of day. What gives? :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jael on May 01, 2004, 12:19:41 AMSorry, CC. My reply was really harsh. I was feeling pretty nasty and sarcastic that day :-[.
No need to apologize, I was just pointing out that an 8-year gap is not that bad.
BTW, don't use M$N, anything M$-related is
bad. Try Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com) or GAIM (http://gaim.sourceforge.net) instead. 8)
hahah cant belive I missed this post!
Quote from: J-ROC on April 28, 2004, 07:56:01 PM
Kinda like my obsession with South Americans ladies...RAWR! :D Now a South American non-engineer...*swoon* :D
lol, omg :P
*NUDGE NUDGE*
*HINT HINT*
:lovegoggles:
(Belated) congrats, Renfrew!! :D
Sorry for missing it... I don't usually read threads with "woot" in the title ;]
The old guys/girls relationship topics... It's amazing how many threads end up with it ;-D
Quote from: Yonkey on April 25, 2004, 07:58:45 PM
Yeah, but Art has better girlz than Engineering! ;B
You know, they have better guys as well ;)
In the 4 years I've been studying, I haven't seen a single guy worth looking at in any of my classes... or in the entire faculty, for that matter. No wonder I was bored out of my head :(
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 06:39:45 AM
(Belated) congrats, Renfrew!! :D
Sorry for missing it... I don't usually read threads with "woot" in the title ;]
But this was a
very special Woot! :'( ;-D
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 06:39:45 AM
Quote from: Yonkey on April 25, 2004, 07:58:45 PM
Yeah, but Art has better girlz than Engineering! ;B
You know, they have better guys as well ;)
In the 4 years I've been studying, I haven't seen a single guy worth looking at in any of my classes... or in the entire faculty, for that matter. No wonder I was bored out of my head :(
Haha, ok I didn't know
that ;P but thanks for proving the "opposites attract" point extends to students from the faculty of Math/Science too. XD
Quote from: Yonkey on May 02, 2004, 06:53:50 AM
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 06:39:45 AM
(Belated) congrats, Renfrew!! :D
Sorry for missing it... I don't usually read threads with "woot" in the title ;]
But this was a very special Woot! :'( ;-D
I know... that's why I read it now :)
Quote from: Yonkey on May 02, 2004, 06:53:50 AM
Haha, ok I didn't know that ;P but thanks for proving the "opposites attract" point extends to students from the faculty of Math/Science too. XD
But then, I don't recall finding anyone particularly attractive in any of the other faculties either... I'm sorry to say that while the girls in my country are reputed to be very beautiful (present company excluded, of course) the guys are really not much to write home about ;P
As for "opposites attract" - from my experience, it only works in the short term. In the long term, people tend to get on each other's nerves, and the same different thing they found so attractive in the begining become de-mystified and annoying :-\
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 06:39:45 AMThe old guys/girls relationship topics... It's amazing how many threads end up with it ;-D
That's because we're mostly lonely geeks/nerds here. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on May 02, 2004, 07:57:29 AM
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 06:39:45 AMThe old guys/girls relationship topics... It's amazing how many threads end up with it ;-D
That's because we're mostly lonely geeks/nerds here. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
I concur...
Cat
Quote from: Storm on May 02, 2004, 07:21:22 AMI'm sorry to say that while the girls in my country are reputed to be very beautiful (present company excluded, of course)
Present company most certainly
not excluded! XD
Quote from: Jeysie on May 02, 2004, 07:57:29 AMThat's because we're mostly lonely geeks/nerds here. ;)
Ofcourse we are, otherwise we wouldn't be able to post as much! :(
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on May 02, 2004, 12:37:55 PMI concur...
Even with all the attention we're giving you, you
still feel lonely? :lovegoggles:
my case is a bit different, I openly dislike all men from my faculty right now, the best looking ones are the one from tourism, they are always in top shape like always in suits and with phones and stuff, its kind of funny (same happens with the girls) in our university, design ppl is the -ok- ppl even though some are stupid a******* with a lot of air in their heads, the tourism ppl is the best looking ppl, the electronic eng. are fun but uber nerds, the comp. are the slacker ones, the admin. ones... are invisible hahaha, the civil eng. are the most annoying and bitching ones (they are always complaining) and I dont know who else I may be missing, but it doesnt matter :P
My point is, that supposedly in my case (my former campus) was not the "art girls" it was the "tourism girl", I personally disliked tourism all my career cuz they had more benefits toward many facilites in campus (like email and ftp account and traveling and such :P
About men, in my campus it was the electronic eng. ones that the girls were always drooling about AND some tourism guys ;P
Truth is, that whole campus can burn in hell right now, they were never anything good and there isnt anything good now :P
Quote from: copycat on May 02, 2004, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on May 02, 2004, 12:37:55 PMI concur...
Even with all the attention we're giving you, you still feel lonely? :lovegoggles:
Well, it would be nice if I got some attention from someone a little closer than Canada or England! No offense to either of those guys, b/c I do enjoy all the talks, but where's the Tennessee-ian guys??
Cat
Currently trying to remove their heads from their butts, I suppose.
They just don't know a good thing when they see one.
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on May 02, 2004, 03:13:12 PM
Quote from: copycat on May 02, 2004, 02:38:18 PM
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on May 02, 2004, 12:37:55 PMI concur...
Even with all the attention we're giving you, you still feel lonely? :lovegoggles:
Well, it would be nice if I got some attention from someone a little closer than Canada or England! No offense to either of those guys, b/c I do enjoy all the talks, but where's the Tennessee-ian guys??
Cat
I live in Virginia, not far away yanno... ;)
Thankees...so sweet of you ;P
Cat
Quote from: Say on May 02, 2004, 02:58:19 PMTruth is, that whole campus can burn in hell right now, they were never anything good and there isnt anything good now :P
The same goes for my campus! and preferably before I have to return there ;P