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Title: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 13, 2011, 11:41:15 PM
Should be a lot less intense than the Dark Souls one.  I actually have taken a bit of a break from that to get my feet wet in Skyrim a bit today and I am definitely impressed.  It did lock up on me once which was a bummer, but I like that it has several options for the game to autosave for you so I only lost like 5 minutes.

This is definitely a VERY big world to explore.  One of the first things I did was walk like halfway across it for a random sidequest I picked up early on, and both the scale of the world and the variety of landscapes is really impressive.  I do feel a lot more immersed in this world than I did in either Morrowind or Oblivion, and the story is shaping up to be pretty interesting so far.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: drunkenmonkey on November 14, 2011, 03:03:49 AM
I did try to take on a giant crab. Big mistake. They are faster than they look and have some reach so you can't hit and move easily and I think you need a blunt weapon for them. We were both on last energies and he got me first, after that the game played endless loading hints screens. I took it as a sign that I was done for the day.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 14, 2011, 07:48:02 AM
I need this game.

Unfortunately, Skyrim came out the same day that my baby did, so new parenthood is going to be taking up the major portion of my free time that would have been devoted to Skyrim.  Sigh...ah well.  Maybe during my Christmas vacation.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 14, 2011, 07:55:29 AM
Well congratulations man!  A new baby is definitely more time-consuming and has a lot more sidequests than Skyrim, so have fun!
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Fierce Deity on November 14, 2011, 07:59:32 AM
Well congratulations man!  A new baby is definitely more time-consuming and has a lot more sidequests than Skyrim, so have fun!

Maybe, Skyrim can teach gamers the valuable lesson of time-management and taking care of responsibilities like a real adult. Or maybe, it'll force them to become celibate so they can get back to gaming.  :P

Congratulations Lamb, you're a daddy now.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 14, 2011, 10:27:06 AM
Ugh I woke up this morning 45 minutes before my alarm went off and all I could think of was, "I want to go find more Words" so I played Skyrim for half an hour before breakfast or anything.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 14, 2011, 06:05:08 PM
I almost bought Skyrim tonight.  I was so close.  Instead, I bought my daughter some clothes and my wife some nipple cream.  Ah parenthood.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: crayauchtin on November 14, 2011, 06:07:57 PM
I don't own it yet. Probably not til Christmas. :'( :'( :'( :'( *sniffle*
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 14, 2011, 07:07:29 PM
I almost bought Skyrim tonight.  I was so close.  Instead, I bought my daughter some clothes and my wife some nipple cream.  Ah parenthood.

Rent it from Redbox - same price as getting it at the game store if you just keep it for 30 days they'll charge your card 60.00 .
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Fierce Deity on November 14, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Not that it matters considering there is no multiplayer, but out of curiosity Weldon, what system did you get the game on?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 14, 2011, 08:32:36 PM

Rent it from Redbox - same price as getting it at the game store if you just keep it for 30 days they'll charge your card 60.00 .

That actually sounds like a terrible deal.  lol  Did you mistype that?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 14, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
I have it on PS3.

And Lamb isn't the game $60 new anyway?  If you rent it from Redbox sure you don't get the manual (like anybody ever reads those any more) and you basically get 30 days to save up the $60 to buy the game before you pay for it.  Then if it sucks you can just return it after only a day or two and just pay the $2 per day.  I've done this with a couple of games that I returned pretty quickly.

Granted, I didn't do this for Skyrim, I had this one pre-ordered.  But just a suggestion so if you're planning to buy it later and just really wanted to play it sooner this would work.  I also wouldn't do it for a game that retails for less than $60 as that would be a bit of a rip-off.

Oh my word I just climbed the most ridiculously huge mountain at night in a blinding snowstorm.  Genuinely anxious all the way up about staying on a usable path, the whole trip was just incredibly gorgeous.  It's official, I love this game.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 14, 2011, 09:12:22 PM
Ah, I see--you don't have to pay right away--that was the crucial missing detail.  :)  Unfortunately it's a time thing rather than a cost thing.  Oh well.  I'm sure I will pick it up pretty soon, I'll just have to chip at it for the next 18 years.  ;)
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Cez on November 15, 2011, 12:49:21 AM
haha that's how I feel, and that's why for now, I'm not buying it! I'm leaving my home for the next 2 months or so, so I won't be close to my big consoles anyhow. Time to spend some time with the DS and PC games.

One thing I hate is having to leave before I had a chance to beat Dark Souls!
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Bludshot on November 19, 2011, 12:41:27 AM
When I got the Storm Call shout I immediately felt the need to find a druid camp and trick them into thinking I was a powerful nature wizard.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Rosella on November 19, 2011, 11:54:53 PM
I wonder if the Greybeards would fall for it...
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: drunkenmonkey on November 20, 2011, 06:22:10 AM
Hmm, I don't see much Skyrim talk going on. Has the game got you all scared. :rofl:
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Bludshot on November 20, 2011, 08:09:54 AM
I wonder if the Greybeards would fall for it...

Christopher Plummer as the Arch Druid.  Wouldn't that have been interesting?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 21, 2011, 11:08:36 AM
I'm still just blown away by how much there is to do in this game.  I played some more over the weekend and I still haven't even really made much progress on the "main" quest, I'm just trying to clear out my "Miscellaneous" quests and every time I clear one some goober runs up to me and gives me another one.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 21, 2011, 07:12:30 PM
SKY...

(Posted on: November 21, 2011, 10:12:13 PM)


...RIM.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: crayauchtin on November 22, 2011, 07:51:21 PM
Did anyone see the lettuce picture Felicia Day posted on her Google+ yesterday?

https://plus.google.com/110286587261352351537/posts/UHuWZHnjeNw

I'm jealous because I don't understand. :'(
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on November 22, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
That... is amazing.  I can't even fathom the work she must have put into gathering that much lettuce.  I admit I never pick up small food like that, but now I'm sorely tempted to start and maybe try for the same effect using like a thousand apples or something.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 24, 2011, 01:16:41 AM
That... is amazing.  I can't even fathom the work she must have put into gathering that much lettuce.  I admit I never pick up small food like that, but now I'm sorely tempted to start and maybe try for the same effect using like a thousand apples or something.

I don't have Skyrim yet, but I totally get that joke.  Awesome.

(Posted on: November 23, 2011, 12:39:13 AM)


I broke down and bought the game today.  I don't care if I have to play it in 5 minute increments for the next 2 years!!
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Blackthorne on November 24, 2011, 07:10:40 PM
Nice!  I'm debating whether or not to buy it for the PC or just get an XBox and get it.  Haven't played an Xbox since I moved (my brother lived in the old downstairs apartment; he had the Xbox).   I'm leaning towards getting an XBox after the holidays so I can play Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption....

BTW, regarding Red Dead Redemption, I found the best video featuring it on YouTube.

 Presenting the Donkey-Lady!!!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI9ZgzxIfOM)


Bt
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 25, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
Nice.  The Xbox version is great, but if you have the PC to run it at full settings, I hear the textural detail and load times are noticeably better.  Plus you have access to mods later on, if you're into that sort of thing.  Still, Playing it on Xbox is easy and convenient, and the interface works really well with the controller.

I've actually had a bit of time to play this over the last few days, and it's definitely very impressive, though VERY familiar, especially if you played Oblivion to death like I did.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does still have little quirks like floaty movement and inexpressive facial animations that always irked me about its predecessor.  Noticed a few bugs so far--but I read there's supposed to be another patch coming out in short order now that the holiday is over.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on November 25, 2011, 10:31:02 PM
The only things I HATE HATE HATE about it is that they retarded the GUI to some bland console interface. It's actually cumbersome. You can't organize anything by value, weight, armour/damage rating, etc. It's just alphabetical. That's all. Scrolling ALL THE WAY DOWN to find the item you want is extremely annoying. Also the act of moving between buyer and seller items is also strangely badly designed.

Then there's the useless topography map. No roads. Just snow. That's it. And icons. It's completely useless. You don't even need to look at it in the entire game. Just folow the compass. I would have preferred the original style paper map which is actually easy to read. That's why it's called a map not a bird's eye view (or dragon's eye view, in this case).

There's also the fact that numbers 1-8 are UNBINDABLE. They're off limits because of the stupid favourite system (which is also bugged, randomly an item you bind to a number will be unbound for some stupid reason). Even on the NumPad. The NumPad is unbindable. I use the NumPad for everything. Now I'm forced to switch to the dreaded WASD. I hate WASD. Now I can understand getting upset with me for wanting the numpad even though I'm right-handed, but what about left-handed players? And it doesn't matter if NumLock is on or not, numbers 1-8 on the numpad are just simply off limits.

It's clear that this was designed moreso with the console in mind, sadly. The Elder Scrolls made its legacy on the PC and it's just sad to see it left in the dirt like this. Not even the mouse is useful in most situations. You have to use your directional keys to navigate menus because mouse clicks and hovers don't always register and never work right. I'm looking forward to mods taht will solve these issues. There's already a map MOD but it's a little too much. You can zoom in right to the ground and view areas you've never been to yet, as I understand it. I'm moreso definitely looking forward to a mod to PC-ify the GUI again, although sources say that it's made with Flash....strangely.

Game is great, though. I just hate all the console-ifying that's happening lately. Now everything is in big honking fonts and giant icons made for people who are sitting back on their couches curled up with a controller and not people with keyboards and mice sitting a foot away from their computer screen.

Oh yeah, you can't even see your own character anymore when you access the GUI. That was a staple of TES since Arena! So desigining your character's facial features at the beginning of the game is absolutely useless. Moreso than usual. Because you will never ever see it again.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Bludshot on November 26, 2011, 11:07:46 AM
I agree the UI is obnoxious, awkward, and clunky.  But I can't honestly say it takes me out of the game too much.  As far as "consolifying" goes, I hardly think Bethesda is much of an offender.  Skyrim looks better and loads faster on my modest PC than what I've seen on the xbox (maybe the PS3 is different?), and I think it says a lot that Bethesda makes an effort to release modding toolkits.

Then again I always find myself arguing against my fellow PC gamers on this subject so maybe I only see what I want to see. :P
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 26, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
You guys are nuts.  The interface is WAY better--so many fewer button presses to access everything than Oblivion, which was far worse, since you had multiple pages for everything, and then pages within pages for specifics.  It was terrible.  Maybe some of the hotspots are buggy on PC, but on Xbox, it is an absolute breath of fresh air.  I'd never want to go back.

For the record, I also love the map.  ;)
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Sslaxx on November 26, 2011, 01:54:57 PM
Nice.  The Xbox version is great, but if you have the PC to run it at full settings, I hear the textural detail and load times are noticeably better.  Plus you have access to mods later on, if you're into that sort of thing.  Still, Playing it on Xbox is easy and convenient, and the interface works really well with the controller.

I've actually had a bit of time to play this over the last few days, and it's definitely very impressive, though VERY familiar, especially if you played Oblivion to death like I did.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does still have little quirks like floaty movement and inexpressive facial animations that always irked me about its predecessor.  Noticed a few bugs so far--but I read there's supposed to be another patch coming out in short order now that the holiday is over.
I don't have a top-of-the-range PC, but it does have a decent graphics card - a GTX 550Ti. It allows me to run the game at 1680x1050 at high detail at about 20-30fps. I suspect I may get another 5-10fps when I upgrade the CPU/motherboard/RAM next year. It's certainly more than good enough as it is, though.

Patch 1.2 is due sometime next week, it seems. As to what it'll fix, hopefully enough of the critical bugs to make the game play better - though, so far, I've been lucky enough not to have been bitten by any of them.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Blackthorne on November 26, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
Bah!  Skyrim!  This is the best Adventure game ever!  We had dots and ducks for dragons and we liked it!

 ADVENTURE ! Click Here  (http://www.simmphonic.com/programming/adventure.htm)

Bt
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on November 26, 2011, 02:46:05 PM
You guys are nuts.  The interface is WAY better--so many fewer button presses to access everything than Oblivion, which was far worse, since you had multiple pages for everything, and then pages within pages for specifics.  It was terrible.

That's what I WANT. I was even disappointed by Oblivon's dumbed down interface in comparison to Morrowind's. But it's a hundred times better than this horrible Skyrim interface. I can live with it but like I said, first chance someone mod's it I'll be all over it.

Also, another disappointing factor is the fact that I can't add my own music to the game anymore. Morrowind and Oblivion allowed you to do that. The music was merely in a folder in MP3 format separated by sub-folders of different types of cues, battle, exploration, town, and dungeon. Now it's all hidden away in the game files and unmoddable. I loved exploring the world to my own music.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: snabbott on November 26, 2011, 04:08:48 PM
Bah!  Skyrim!  This is the best Adventure game ever!  We had dots and ducks for dragons and we liked it!

 ADVENTURE ! Click Here  (http://www.simmphonic.com/programming/adventure.htm)

Bt

I used to spend hours playing that back in the day! :P
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on November 26, 2011, 09:40:16 PM

That's what I WANT.

Why??  What possible advantage does the old multi-page interface have?  You are sounding dangerously close to one of those pedantic RPG nerds that hates any kind of change just for the sake of hating change.  (Note: I realize the irony of this given my similar complaints about adventure games--but I'd argue that those are two very different things, since with the dumbed down adventure game interface, the core gameplay itself is actually changed, where here we are talking about the menu screens.)

I'll grant you that I also miss the ability to view my character from the menu, but with the ability to pan the camera all the way around your character in 3rd person view at any time, I can understand why they took it out, since doing that in the menu is basically redundant.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on November 26, 2011, 11:07:57 PM
I just like to be able to organize however I wish. Everything is all jumbled up in a cumbersome mess now. It's all in perception I guess.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Blackthorne on November 28, 2011, 01:05:28 PM
http://youtu.be/LmqGHXsF1Lk

100 Ways to Die in Skyrim


Bt
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Quest For Glory Fan on November 28, 2011, 10:55:41 PM
Nice!  I'm debating whether or not to buy it for the PC or just get an XBox and get it.  Haven't played an Xbox since I moved (my brother lived in the old downstairs apartment; he had the Xbox).   I'm leaning towards getting an XBox after the holidays so I can play Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption....

BTW, regarding Red Dead Redemption, I found the best video featuring it on YouTube.

 Presenting the Donkey-Lady!!!  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI9ZgzxIfOM)


Bt
If you can play Oblivion you can play Skyrim at almost the same settings.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 01, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
Anyone still playing this piece of s***??


Just kidding.  I adore this game.  I masturbate to it nightly.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Sslaxx on December 01, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
Anyone still playing this piece of s***??
Been bitten by 1.2? Not looking forward to the next time I reboot into Windows, and Steam auto-updates...
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on December 01, 2011, 02:56:27 PM
Anyone still playing this piece of s***??
Been bitten by 1.2? Not looking forward to the next time I reboot into Windows, and Steam auto-updates...

I actually haven't seen any of the super-nasty things people are complaining about with 1.2.  Sure the magic resistance accidental nerfing sucks, but I play mostly stealth so I usually have most mages dead before they can hit me with anything serious anyway.  I've never really had any major lag problems or dragons flying backwards and I'm still not at all convinced by the people who claim the graphics quality was dropped.  I do think the draw distance might have been reduced a "tiny" bit, but it's not anything I'd rage about.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 01, 2011, 05:18:30 PM
On Xbox it's more or less smooth as butter.  Screen tearing is absolutely minimal, provided you have a decent HDMI cable (you'd be surprised how much having a crappy cable affects this.)
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 01, 2011, 11:05:31 PM
Haven't played it in a while. Been too busy. And the short times I do have to play games I'm spending on Arkham City at the moment. Seems more appropriate for short bursts. I'll get back to Skyrim eventually.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 02, 2011, 12:50:21 AM
Skyrim sucks away my time.  I became Arch Mage of Winterhold tonight.  Kinda irritating that nobody acts any differently towards you once you attain that rank.  Guess that's one of those things they sacrificed to get this game out on the magic 11-11-11 date.  Sigh...urge to kill...rising....rising....
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Delling on December 02, 2011, 04:54:46 AM

Bah!  Skyrim!  This is the best Adventure game ever!  We had dots and ducks for dragons and we liked it!

 ADVENTURE ! Click Here  (http://www.simmphonic.com/programming/adventure.htm)

Bt

OMG It's FHQWHGADS!! EVERYBODY to the limit! Come on, it's fhqwhgads! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=votBDwhTu1E&feature=fvst)

(Also... I played that link just now... it was strangely enjoyable XD)


Also... I haven't been able to play Skyrim yet. :( I want a better video card (as in an actual one, rather than the one board motherboard one which is okay, but... Hybrid Radeon Crossfire  :drunk: waaant...)
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: snabbott on December 02, 2011, 11:15:11 AM
I can't get the advanced modes to work in this one. There's a version on Atari's website:

http://www.atari.com/play/atari/adventure
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 03, 2011, 10:17:05 PM
I've started trying to work the word "Skyrim" into everyday conversation, used as an adjective meaning anything amazing, epic, awesome, or otherwise phenomenally good.

Examples:

"Those pork chops you made tonight were skyrim, honey!"

"The Muppets is a skyrim movie!"
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on December 03, 2011, 10:27:37 PM
I've started trying to work the word "Skyrim" into everyday conversation, used as an adjective meaning anything amazing, epic, awesome, or otherwise phenomenally good.

Examples:

"Those pork chops you made tonight were skyrim, honey!"

"The Muppets is a skyrim movie!"

http://blogs.ajc.com/news-to-me/2011/11/17/baby-named-for-skyrim-video-game/
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Fierce Deity on December 04, 2011, 12:50:50 AM
I've started trying to work the word "Skyrim" into everyday conversation, used as an adjective meaning anything amazing, epic, awesome, or otherwise phenomenally good.

Examples:

"Those pork chops you made tonight were skyrim, honey!"

"The Muppets is a skyrim movie!"

http://blogs.ajc.com/news-to-me/2011/11/17/baby-named-for-skyrim-video-game/

Wow, that poor child is going to be scarred for the rest of his life, just because his parents couldn't keep their nerdgasms to themselves.

Hey Lamb, didn't you say your kid was born on the same day Skyrim was released?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 04, 2011, 01:30:05 AM
You can always legally change your name. So can the parents.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 04, 2011, 12:11:51 PM
Haha...yes, our daughter was born on Skyrim Day, just after 2:00 AM.

Did you notice that those parents gave their son a completely normal middle name--Tom?  They're clearly just going to call him that.  Cop out.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2011, 12:52:23 PM
Yeah, but can you imagine when he starts signing up for bank accounts and stuff, getting debit cards with his first and last name on them...You can call him whatever you want, but the state sees things differently. :P
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 04, 2011, 01:51:39 PM
Not if you legally change your name. Am I invisible?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Fierce Deity on December 04, 2011, 01:54:25 PM
Not if you legally change your name. Am I invisible?

No, I get it. You can legally change your name, but what if poor Tom has to show somebody his birth certificate. How would you explain that to somebody? My parents wanted to win a contest at the expense of my self-esteem?
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: MusicallyInspired on December 04, 2011, 02:00:27 PM
More than likely nobody would know what the word means and would probably think it sounded cool. I think it does. All he'd have to say is it means "Dragonborn".
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: wilco64256 on December 04, 2011, 03:04:00 PM
I'd just hate to be the substitute first grade teacher who was going through the roll and got to that name.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: drusain on December 14, 2011, 04:17:06 PM
I just started playing but wow it's easy to get sucked into this. I've been just wandering around mostly. I am a level 7 2Her/Archer Imperial and going to also focus on smithing/alchemy to become an armored god. I'm roleplaying as a lost and forgotten son of the Emperor who was caught trying to flee Skyrim to abandon his past. I distrust mages and kill them on first sight. Also my character is racist against elves and I didn't take a second thought to betray that elf in Riverwood who wanted me to mail a damn forgery.

The environments just look so good and inviting! I could never get into FO3 much because the environment was all just ugly rock and poison water.
Title: Re: Skyrim group therapy session
Post by: Lambonius on December 14, 2011, 08:04:38 PM
I could never get into Fallout 3 because the required slo-mo combat sucked hairy nutsack.

Also, Skyrim rules.  And Dark Souls.  There need be no winner, I will lay with them both!