lol ok say, point taken it shall be removed from the game, even tho it wasnt a game these are serious points you know... ;P
ah say stop distracting me from doing work! lol <3 (pssst thank u, hehehe)
Hmm.
Aliens: I think these exist, as well. I find it kind of hard to believe that we're the *only* "fully intelligent" life forms in the entire universe!
But as for the "visitations" aspect and all that... jury's still out on whether I believe aliens have ever come to our planet and stuff. If there are aliens out there, I think it's sadly possible we may never meet them, due to various limitations.
Ghosts: I'm not certain I believe in the actual spirit idea of ghosts. If there is an afterlife, I don't really believe it's the Christian concept of afterlife, where you go with an intact soul with your personality and everything, I feel it's likely something less... I dunno, less structured, solid? I think it's more of a "spectral energy" sort of thing... like just your pure essence continues to exist, it just doesn't necessarily have any real "form".
I think that if "ghosts" as traditionally described do exist, they might be a sort of "imprint" sort of thing... kind of like a person or event leaving a photo on the film of reality. I'm not sure I believe it's the actual dead person(s) in any way.
Mythical creatures: Apologies, but I think that things like dragons, fairies, giants, vampires, unicorns, etc. are simply perceptions of real creatures that have become exaggerrated over the centuries. Any possible creatures that inspired the ideas might still be a spectacle to behold, but I don't think they're really "magical" or anything, per se.
Magic, ESP, telepathy, etc.: I think that things like magic and "mental arts" and stuff like that might exist. There are many, many ways of manipulating the universe that we haven't come close to scientifically documenting yet... I don't find it unreasonable to think that some of those ways might involve humans being able to produce effects that at first glance seem "supernatural".
I guess you could boil my beliefs down to... I believe that "supernatural" things may very well exist. (Certainly I've seen many strange things I can't explain right off!)
However, I think those supernatural things are simply the result of rules of the universe that we haven't discovered yet. I think that supernatural things exist *inside* an undiscovered subset of reality, not *outside* reality altogether, for lack of a better way to put it at the moment.
Peace & Luv, Liz
QuoteMagic, ESP, telepathy, etc.: I think that things like magic and "mental arts" and stuff like that might exist.
yeh, coz dont we only use like 9% of our brains? so who knows what we can unleash. maybe thats why psychics etc hav that power that the rest of us just dont understand![/glow]
I wanna say it might even be less than 2% of our brains that we fully use. Anyone else ever see the movie "Phenomenon" with John Travolta? That movie kind of explored what might happen and what we might be capable of if we were using *more* or even *all* of our brains.
I also think such mental powers might be possible, if we knew how to tap into them. Who knows what we could do with that other 90+% of our brains if we could?
Aliens... granted we've got no solid proof of anyone else out there now, but IIRC, haven't they recently found fossils of some kind on Mars? Which (if I'm right) proves that life *can* exist on other planets. Which gives that much more support to the idea that it *does*. Of course, this is probably slightly influenced by the fact I saw "Contact" this morning. ;)
Ghosts. I don't know. I've been in places that very much creeped me out for no explainable reason, a feeling echoed by others I was with. In the kind of solid, viewable forms, I don't think so; I know I've never seen one. But in the sense of being invisible, or maybe just a kind of dwelling of a spirit or imprinting an emotion on a place? I think that can happen.
Well, those fossils on Mars prove that carbon-based life can exist elsewhere.
There may be things that are biologically possible where life exists but does not consist of carbon.
(Ie: X-Files, finding Sulphur based plants)
As for all sorts of other things:
Ghosts/Paranormal: Bollocks, even if I am scared of the dark. :D
Aliens: Yep. Do I think they've ever visited Earth. Nope.
Supernatural Powers: Sort of. As humans evolve, I believe we will be able to do more with our minds and bodies. (ie: athletes run faster, jump higher, etc.) Manipulate the world around you without touching (telekinesis) Err...no. Telepathy...yeah, possible.
I believe in "others" but prefer to not call them aliens. If you think about it and there is other life out there, we are all just as "alien" as those we label as such. One funny thing I like to think about in the whole scheme of life and a "higher being" is that there is one big board game each with a different title. Ours just happens to be called Earth. I think there is someting greater that gets a kick out of looking down at us and watching us run through daily activities. One example . . .when someone is walking . . . say on a college campus . . . I think that is a dice rolled or a card drawn like in monopoly or something. I would like to think that faeries are genuine, but I have no proof they do. They are just really pretty!! As far as ghosts . . . I think there are spirits in all forms, shapes, sizes, and attitudes. How about them apples??? ;P
:'( :'( :'( I'm boring!! I only believe in things that can be explained!!
....but then again everyting can be explained...just not by me (or perhaps not even by other humans ; )
ur not boring rob, just like ur hard facts etc.:)
this isnt really unexplained, just weird. i do this alot with my best friends that i hang around with alot, but recently i hav been noticing i do it with some of u guys on msn...i say the same thing as u at the same time...or i say some thing and its freaky eg) talkin to alex *how far hav u got with the song*...alex-*omg how freaky i had just opened the song to do work on it* its weird...i always link with other ppls wavelengths...just done it with nate too...and i do it with cat quite a lot!
I believe in ghosts. Had a few encounters that I don't think can otherwise be explained. I'll go into details another time, when I'm not about to eat dinner (because I'll get interrupted in the middle of one of the stories here and forget where I was or something).
I believe in aliens, just because its depressing to think humans are the only sentient beings in the WHOLE universe.
As far as legends go, I believe in some. I believe in the Jersey Devil, as I know someone who's seen it and also, far too many sightings not to (in my opinion). I also believe in yetis (Bigfoot, Sasquatch, etc). I mean, there's photographs of them from like...around the time people started taking pictures that weren't posed, so long before people could really edit them. But others, I'm not sure about. The Loch Ness Monster has like...four different appearances, for example. But some pieces of evidence for it are fairly convincing. So I really don't know.
As far as myths go...the only ones I really think I could put any stock in are dragons and phoenixes, and only because so many cultures shared beliefs in those.
ESP and things like that, I definitely believe in!! It's my optimism though, really. I like to think there's a lot of potential in the human mind....so...I think that's where it is. Hidden abilities, like that. :)
well q, i definately wanna hear ur ghost encounters!...i think if i had a ghost encounter i would become a ghost lol!
wooo this is my 600th post, i waited till i got 600 b4 i could go to bed, so im goin now. ah why is my keyboard making noises :S...
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well my best friends guitar is haunted lol...or atleast we think it is. sometimes in the early hours u can hear (and her family has heard) it playing, it also played wen i was there a few years ago, my guitar was next to it and then all of a sudden her guitar played without either of us near it...and we ran...we ran like girls!
Quote from: KatieHal on May 16, 2004, 11:45:15 AM
I wanna say it might even be less than 2% of our brains that we fully use.
Now, where's that Jeysie were you need her? I had to search for this link she posted about the subject a while back:
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
I don't believe in any of those things myself. Ghosts, afterlife, mythical creatures, magic and psychic abilities - as much as I enjoy stories & movies about them, I just don't believe they exist IRL.
As for aliens, I do believe they exist, that is, that life exist on other planets beside Earth. There are 1000's of billions of plantes in the universe, odds are life have evolved in more than just one of them ;)
As for aliens visiting Earth and conspiracy theorys regarding them - That's another thing I enjoy watching on screen, without believing it actually happens. Even if some advanced alien race could cross the vast reaches of space and come to earth, I hardly think they'll make such an effort just so they can draw some crop circles, preform anal probings and enjoy a good cattle mutilation :P
Q and all others who had a paranormal experience/encounter - excuse me if I don't take your testimony as proof positive. Such fantastic claims should be supported by more than someone else's say so. I might believe these things exist if something like that happened to me personally... strange that it never did ::)
Quote from: Storm on May 18, 2004, 07:26:12 PMQuote from: KatieHal on May 16, 2004, 11:45:15 AMI wanna say it might even be less than 2% of our brains that we fully use.
Now, where's that Jeysie were you need her? I had to search for this link she posted about the subject a while back:
Trying to avoid seeming like a smart-ass again by digging up links when I think someone's wrong about something again. (sheepish look)
Peace & Luv, Liz
i need to know how much of our brains we use coz i used it in an essay as we were told it was 9% and it would be helpful to know the correct amount so i can use it in my exam :)
I heard it was 10%, but only geniuses actually make it to the 10% level. ;P
I stand corrected, then. Hey, I did I *thought* it was 2 but wasn't sure! Apparentally we've up'd the percentage since I last chedked. ;)
Storm, it somehow doens't surprise me you don't buy into that stuff at all. ;B
If you want to get technical, we use *all* of our brains at some point, we just don't use all of it at the same time. How much of your brain you use at a given time depends on what you're doing. (I.E., each part of the brain is best suited to a given set of activities, so how much you're using depends on what activities your task is made up of. Or something like that.)
I'm officially a smart-ass again. Whee. :P
Of course, just because every part of the brain gets used at some point, doesn't necessarily mean that we know what every part does. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
*claps* hey little ms brainiac! ;P
Quote from: Jeysie on May 18, 2004, 07:34:50 PM
Quote from: Storm on May 18, 2004, 07:26:12 PMQuote from: KatieHal on May 16, 2004, 11:45:15 AMI wanna say it might even be less than 2% of our brains that we fully use.
Now, where's that Jeysie were you need her? I had to search for this link she posted about the subject a while back:
Trying to avoid seeming like a smart-ass again by digging up links when I think someone's wrong about something again. (sheepish look)
Leave it to me to never pass on an opportunity to look like a smart-ass :P
I was fooled myself by that 10% misconception... I heard about it and thought it was true :-[ until I saw the link Jeysie posted ;D. So I felt it was my duty to enlighten others as well :P
Quote from: KatieHal on May 19, 2004, 07:57:40 AMStorm, it somehow doens't surprise me you don't buy into that stuff at all. ;B
Am I really THAT obvious? (ok, you don't have to answer that) ;P
Quote from: Storm on May 19, 2004, 10:47:05 AM
Leave it to me to never pass on an opportunity to look like a smart-ass :P
of course, we wouldnt expect any less!! :P
Quote from: Storm on May 19, 2004, 10:47:05 AM
I was fooled myself by that 10% misconception... I heard about it and thought it was true :-[ until I saw the link Jeysie posted ;D. So I felt it was my duty to enlighten others as well :P
lol me too (thought about the 10% statement), who could have thought this forum would be so educational?! :P
Quotewho could have thought this forum would be so educational?!
only thru my fabtastic thread and random questions do we find unexplained answers...that are now explained by our forum brainiacs!
bravo guys...hav a cookie each!
EDIT- and by fabtastic i mean fantastic...alex we hav a new word to add to our dictionary ::)[/glow]
omg I found something cute to believe in!
FOU! <3 <3 <3 lol :P
hmmm... I believe in feelings ...I can't explain (well some feelings I can :lovegoggles: ...but not all) them yet I have them ...totally weird :S
I believe in demons and angels and that is all I will say because say will be ticked at me if I say any more about anything remotely tied to religion :'(
-- right say say are you there say -- Say this and Say that -- Ha -- now I am really pusing your patience LOL Okay I guess this thread is now locked :S
As far as ghosts are concerned, I think that people that have evil on Earth could be tormented by having their spirits tied to this Earth for a time -- maybe
Quoteright say say are you there say -- Say this and Say that -- Ha -- now I am really pusing your patience
yes...thank u dew ::) dont try and stress Say, we know she doesnt need added stress! >:( ;P
and dont try to lock my thread lol![/glow]
ok Angels and Demons are not considerd beeing religious... at least not anymore.
but Kim is right, don't push it dew!! this is a cool thread, and i hate to see it locked, but i will if it has to :-\
right lets get back on topic :)
so do we think that mythical cretaures such as loch ness monster, unicorns, werewolves and giant squid are true or not?
im thinking giant squid like in the picture below (in the second pic) were misinterpreted many years ago by fisherman, because lets face it if u were a sailor in ur little boat and then all of a sudden a big slimey thing with loads of arms was found in the water (and perhaps at the time u had a few glasses of good ol' *alchy-hol*) then u may make up stories to make ur journey more interesting, or convince others not to go into the water so u got more fish for ur business (ok i will stop with the rambling about fish)
i think we havnt yet discovered everything on our planet, on land or in sea, think about the depths of some waters, they are so dark who knows what could live down there! most things are possible!
ok with tales handed down through generations and accross countries, you can put some myths down to misinterpretaion, and some for just a good story, but who knows what may hav existed, or may still exist!
Contempory evidence- havnt they found some sort of microscopic organisms that can live in conditions that they thought not to be possible in america? or something like that anyway-but it shows we are still finding new things about out planet and some things go against science and nature...we may one day find something bigger than a group of microbes...something the size of godzilla ;P :suffer:
deep kimmie rant over, this doesnt happen often and its probably all confused but i dont care ;P
I don't mind talks about religion myself... as long as it isn't offensive or inflammatory. I don't even mind people trying to convert me - I know they'll never succeed ;-D
Quote from: Kimmie on May 20, 2004, 02:31:11 AM
...think about the depths of some waters, they are so dark who knows what could live down there! most things are possible!
You're right, no one really knows what creatures exist in the deepest depths of the oceans... but they're probably not much bigger than microorganisms because of the lack of sunlight, so no "huge monsters of the deep" :-\ Of course, anything they might find down there should be more "undiscovered" than "unexplained" ;)
QuoteOf course, anything they might find down there should be more "undiscovered" than "unexplained"
hehehe, good point. but i suppose if the mythical creatures are real...then for now they are unexplained ;P but then again they wouldnt be myths. oh to hell with my poo analogy it didnt work lol, just like my brain YEY![/glow]
I believe in Santa Claus... or at least the concept that comes with the image that is presented in generally accepted society; a 'giver' and a 'saint' - ignoring religious tie-ins in respect to say, I believe in the standards of equality that exist... it is unfortunate that those standards of giving and goodwill disappear so quickly when the Christmas season is over... [I refuse to call it X-mas... no offense meant to anyone reading...]
Sentient life on other planets: I believe this to exist... the platypus had to come from somewhere, right? :D
Tolin
ppl have discover around 1 million liveforms on this planet, and they think there would be another 10 milion (or even 30 or more) that means that there is still a posibility ; )
I belive in the power of my bi.tchyness! but dont worry dew you didnt piss me off neither stress me, I just dont want religion issues going on around here, that's all, there's gotta be something else you believe in?
I mean angels and demons arent just a religious subject, they are mythology related anyways, you could always go sideways. In chinese belief they used to be truly commited to consider dragons somehow powerful "demons" to believe or such? I dont believe in dragons but whoever who is into mythology (of ANY kind, which is my point) can say how much they believe that waaay back there wasn an Atlantis or Dragons, or Zeus... or whatever.
Whoever who believes in God or Satan or Lolitas be my guest! whoever can believe what they want in religious terms, just keep it to yourself, thats all. I dont want this thread locked up either.
hahaha, well Zeus, Dyonisius, Neptune, Athene, etc were all worshipped too, and it was a big religion in their time, but i think we all know what you mean ; )
I believe in a time when SW CCG will be played again ...by me ...in the world finals!! ...lol, I can't explain why i believe it... so this is a good thread to post in ;-D
oh how i loved greek mythology, ah memories of 7 years ago...memories of school which are almost over :'(
idd, i loved it too, been a while since i read or saw anything about it though :-\
yeh me too, altho i am studying egyptology at uni so i get to learn their culture and all their stories so i can pass them onto you!
I believe in David Blane!! <3 (is that his name? I'm so tired right now I hope that one is lol) he does magic! :D and he's like... the coolest (sometimes the most stupid) and awesomez magician OF ALL TIMES :D <3
he really really rules :P
omg yeh! like when he levitated on the street! Omg that was freaky! and the thing where he ate the snake :X and then the not eating, and the big ice illusions...but are they illusions...now lets debate about this one lol ;P
I rather not question him but believe in him :)
I dont care if they are illusions or not anyways, the true is that he freaking rules, whatever he does its done very well, I would love to meet him, honestly.
he has mesmorising eyes :lovegoggles:
hahaha I so didnt want to bring that into place.. but yeah, he's very handsome too :P :lovegoggles:
David Blaine is hardly unexplained... sure, he does some neat tricks, but as long as he himself doesn't present them as anything but illusions, there's really not much point in "believing" them :-\
Greek Mythology rocks. I now have had my B.A. for a few years and I was a Classics major -- Cultural Anthropology minor with an emphasis in Middle Eastern Studies. If you also add working in a retail environment for five plus years then you have a pretty well-rounded person. :> I hope to become a third to fifth grade teacher and later become a computer guru when I am bored of teaching. !!! I love the opportunities that exist in the United States of America and will continue to thank God for my existence. :>
I've always loved Greek Mythology myself... I always loved it when we had that module in English class. ;D Even once wrote a play version of Perseus & Medusa (& Andromeda) for a school project.
And Dew... looks like you and me gotta swap retail war stories one of these days. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
I believe in a warped mixture of String Theory and God. ;B
I beleive in ghosts... cuz my mom told me she sees one every morning when I get downstairs :o :o ...so nice, so nice :'(
are you serious!? :P
well, she did said that... but she was referring to me... i think ; \
hahahahahaaaaa :P
well... nothing than a sunny tan can't fix :P
Jeysie what do you mean by retail war stories? Do you mean when some people treat you like you are an idiot and do not even respond to you when you ask them a question or something else?
hehe rob i think im paler than you! Sun...what is sun?
i loved learning about greek mythology. i think my school was the only one who made the first year of highschool study latin aswell as the mythology it was called *classics* and the teacher used to spit and bang encil cases...anyway. i hated the latin part coz i didnt even understand my own language (part kimmism part "english") but i loved the mythology (we got to act out the myths too XD)
and now my direction in life is to learn egyptology at uni...which im sure i will enjoy...cant wait XD XB
and this pictures says- Kim, Forever...lol :suffer:
Quote from: dew7 on June 05, 2004, 09:59:26 PMJeysie what do you mean by retail war stories? Do you mean when some people treat you like you are an idiot and do not even respond to you when you ask them a question or something else?
I mean customers in general having a tendency to treat retail employees like dirt, and being generally difficult in various ways. Most of my customers were decent folk, but oh, do I have a boatload of doozy stories. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Same here. The majority of people are nice but I always get at least one strange person each time I work a shift. :> LOL ;D ;)
I have a few reasons for believing in aliens, but I cannot put all of them because of some rules that were put down earlier. I don't see how the giant face got on Mars without a little extraterrestrial help.
I also find Greek and Roman mythology fascinating.
We have rules about aliens? :S
I thought that giant face on Mars was just a trick of the light... IIRC, other pics of it from different angles/times showed it didn't look like a face at all :-\
How about the balls of light that turned about to be a natural although rare phenomen that pilots in Mexico spotted a little while back ---- sorry everybody we may be alone in the universe and if we are not then why would intelligent life try to contact us --- for example would we try and make contact with a fly on another planet --- LOL :> :> :> I can edit this topic if anyone is an insect lover ----- ;B
do we believe orbs are the first sign of a ghost manifestation...been watching too much most haunted :P
That really depends on whether or not the orbs are seen in person or on a camera. If its on a camera, definitely not. If you see an orb in person though, let me know!!!
sadly not...not so far. and even if i did i may just blame my dodgy eyes
I believe in God, spirits (or ghosts if you prefer to call them that), demons, and the Devil. I do not think any of these unexplained things have been fully detailed as of yet. LOL
Ewwwww that orb thing. I ahve a different take on it. I think thats us viewing places where the seam between this and another universe is very thin and we're getting glimpses of light and environmental pressure etc. Yes I have been reading too much Phillip Pullman recently...
I just realised I never really posted in this thread! :o ;-D
Well, being someone that believes in science, facts, principles and logic, I don't believe in a lot of supernatural things, since you can usually find an explanation for them. :P But as for unexplained things, I do think there is an answer to them, but we just haven't discovered it yet. Without bringing religion into this, I'll just say I believe most answers (i.e. Why are we here?, Are we alone in this universe?, etc) will be made clear when you die; but for the rest of us still living, we can only really speculate. 8)
I like science too but feel that it will always be lacking without having some kind of supernatural force to help back it up and motivate you to seize the day -- carpe diem
Thanks for adding to this thread, Neil. I appreciate your input.
Lets try keep the religion talk to a minimum :-X
One of the main unexplained thing I believe is about telekenisis and the power of the miiiinnnd (yeah I know we'e already had the whole 10% convo in this thread :P).
Carrie basically sums up my enitre belief the subject. Oh and Matilda of course 8)
I prefer to motivate myself, actually. ;)
I'm with Yonkey in the part that I think that everything that's currently unexplained will be explained eventually, using science and human ingenuity.
Even some of the things we can explain today are still awe-inspiring and amazing, so I don't feel it any less magical and intriguing to think of all things as being natural instead of supernatural.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on June 15, 2004, 11:42:12 AMI'm with Yonkey in the part that I think that everything that's currently unexplained will be explained eventually, using science and human ingenuity.
I'm not too sure of that myself. What if some things can't be explained in a way the human mind can comprehend? we live in our minuscule corner of the universe, naming the physical forces and objects around us, studying and putting into formulas the way our world behaves, making up theories of how we came to be here and thinking that someday we'll have everything figured out.
But what if we're simply CAN'T figure it out? What if we can't precive the begining and cause of the universe the same way we can't precive anything past the 4th dimension? what if the dimensions & time themselves are only a way for us to precive very different things we can't comprehend, the same way an ant can't comprehend what a human is, even when it's walking on one?
Sure, we think to ourselves, we're much more evolved than the ant. We can think and imagine things beyond what we can see, hear and feel with our limited senses, and we can understand anything if you put it in small enough words. But what if it can't be put into small enough words? what if the human mind itself is inherently incapable of conceiving the true nature of the universe? what if it's beyond our notions of thought, time, space, dimensions, logic, cause & effect etc., the same way music, for instance, is beyond the mind the ant?
I really wonder about that sometimes :-X
(shrug) Well, look at it this way, if you like... regardless if we can understand it or not, I feel there's a "natural" explanation for everything. I'd like to think we are (or will be) smart enough to figure it all out one day, but even if we're not, I don't think there's anything stereotypically mystical/magical about the universe.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I think people are generally dumb. Science will solve puzzles but there will always be more things to solve because new puzzles will come up and a supernatural force or being is the only way to explain everything no matter what you think, in my humble and small opinion. :>
Quote from: dew7 on June 15, 2004, 10:35:35 AM
seize the day -- carpe diem
Is that a quote from Dead Poets Society ???
Quote from: dew7 on June 17, 2004, 03:45:47 AMa supernatural force or being is the only way to explain everything no matter what you think, in my humble and small opinion. :>
I always considered that a cop-out. :P Why not just be satisfied with attempting to study and explain the universe and accept that in this case it's the journey and the application of the journey's experience that matters and not the "final" goal, instead of just giving up and saying "Well, we can't explain it right now, so it's a supernatural phenomena, end of story."?
Plus, if *we* can't explain something, it doesn't make it supernatural. Too complicated for humans to understand, perhaps, but not supernatural.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I believe that eventually we will find the answers. Less than 2000 years ago, no human understood 2 dimensions, let alone 4. And nowadays, you learn about 3 dimensions in Grade 3 (that is, when children are able to understand the concept of conservation & volume).
There is no single human on this earth that knows and understands every single principles, theory or concept because of the sheer vast amount of information. However, there is a medium in which humans can access this kind knowledge at any point in time: the Internet. 8)
So yeah, humans do have a limited amount of mind capacity, and I'm sure there are things in this world that no one understands right now, but I feel eventually someone will and eventually it will be taught to our children by an elementary or high school teacher. ::) Or more likely, it will be available from a few keystrokes at Google or its successor. XD
I believe in coffee
Quote from: Say on June 17, 2004, 11:35:30 AM
I believe in coffee
:D All hail the coffee god, Nescafe!
I prefer the demi-god, Lipton. ;) Or rather, the demi-god of a much better brand of tea that I can't remember right now because I'm not at home to look in my cabinet. ;P
Peace & Luv, Liz
lipton = rules
and so does nestea <3
Whew! Say lightens the mood and dew7 accepts the invitation. :> Now, coffee milkshakes are good --- Hageen-Daz (spelled wrong I know :<) is my favorite ice cream and nice and pure and rich but you will pay an arm and a leg for it. (pricey_most definately)
wow, those are amazing <3
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on June 17, 2004, 11:38:27 AM
:D All hail the coffee god, Nescafe!
WOOT! i agree Nescafe all the way <3 !!!
BTW i also lub Farmers Union Ice Coffee <3 !!!
Quote from: Jeysie on June 18, 2004, 06:04:42 AM
Oddly enough, I don't think there's *any* Starbucks cafes in Western MA! The first time I went to one was when I "helped" Katie buy coffee in NYC.
Peace & Luv, Liz
OMG can it be? Is there truely a place on earth where starbucks has not invaded?? ??? :o
I prefer Costa coffee to starbucks though, dunno if you get them in the US.
Starbucks never heard of it in my life :-\
I know what Starbucks is but not because we have it here, they dont have any franchise around here, and I would dare to say so for the whole country, if its not in Caracas I doubt it may be somewhere else :P (inside Vzla that is) dont know about the rest of the south american countries :P
What is Starbucks :S ???
we had Dunkin Donuts around here, the franchise failed here :(
dont know why, I liked it :(
btw, what's wrong with it? :P I think it was cool lol :P
Dunkin Donuts died in Australia because we have our own Donut companies ;D :P
Say: Partly the fact that they're everywhere, mostly the fact that I worked at Dunkin Donuts for about 10 months total (4 months at one franchise, 6 months at another), and it wasn't exactly the greatest experience. The one I worked at for 6 months had the worst boss I've ever had. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on June 18, 2004, 07:15:19 AMOMG can it be? Is there truely a place on earth where starbucks has not invaded?? ???
If there is, it's definately not here... there's one on the street next to where I live :-\ Never bought anything there though - it looked too pricey for me, and I don't like coffee anyways, except for those big cups of ice coffee I used to get at the university... nothing kept me awake better than them at boring lectures :P
Quote from: Yonkey on June 17, 2004, 09:34:44 AMLess than 2000 years ago, no human understood 2 dimensions, let alone 4.
Now that's just not true. Maybe they didn't draw them on nice little graphs, but I'm pretty sure that since the dawn of man people could perceive all 4 dimensions ;)
no starbucks here...
and some ppl still can't draw 3 dimensions ; )
ok 3 dimension i understand that but wtf is 4 dimension ???
The 4th dimension is time. But I don't see how people could understand it if clocks didn't exist. I mean, they knew about day and night, but they definitely didn't know any quantum physics. ;B
The 4th dimension is time. Or rather, the 4th dimension of spacetime is time, if you want to get all technical and stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacetime
Edit: Grah, Yonkey beat me to it, 'cause my connection's all slow 'cause I'm downloading stuff. ;P
Peace & Luv, Liz
So you cant draw 4 dimensions ;D, is there a 5 dimension ???
Sure there is.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_Dimension
(OK, this was a bad pun, and I apologize. ;) )
Peace & Luv, Liz
:suffer:
Nah, I think it stops at 4. But there are probably some sci-fi books called "The Fifth Dimension" or something. ;D
Quote from: racx_00 on June 19, 2004, 12:43:45 PM
So you cant draw 4 dimensions ;D
Actually you can. If you draw a circle now, then draw the exact same circle in an hour, it exists both in the "present" and the past. But, since time is always increasing and never stops, it's impossible for something to exist in exactly one point in time.
I didnt think there was a 5 dimension :P
BTW in other words its impossible to draw 4 dimension :P
Quote from: Yonkey on June 19, 2004, 12:37:31 PM
The 4th dimension is time. But I don't see how people could understand it if clocks didn't exist. I mean, they knew about day and night, but they definitely didn't know any quantum physics. ;B
they don't have to, they were smart enough to understand that if they would meet each other at a certain spot (ie. location = 3 dimensions) they wouldn't see each other unless they are there at the same time (4th dimension).
2000 years ago they already had hours and so (iirc), so they ahd a pwetty good deffinition of time i should say
Time and dimensions are very natural concepts - people could probably understand them even before they began counting/drawing them. The first humans capable of thought could probably understand the difference between "here" and "there" (dimension), and "now" and "later" (time) ;)
Quote from: racx_00 on June 19, 2004, 12:43:45 PM
So you cant draw 4 dimensions ;D, is there a 5 dimension ???
You can't draw the 4th dimension on paper, but you could represent it by a series of graphs (creating an animation).
And as any Linear Algebra studant know, there is an infinite number of dimensions, but in our world we only use 4 of them, and only draw 3 ;)
You've never seen an eight dimensional Blarfnoggin cube-sketch? :o
i didn't, ...could you please post one?? ; )
Hrm, can't find it, must be in my other pair of 10-dimensional pants. ;)
yeah, they all look the same ; )
i only have 2 dimensional pants :P ;-D :suffer:
You're Spongebob? !!!
I agree, lies can be dangerous, even white lies. Best just to let everyone know the ugly truth and get it over with. ;) So what if your kid gets upset that Santa Claus isn't real. ;)
I lie alot, just part of life. I think its more wether you lie to people who are honest with you. THAT is messed up.
I'm almost always honest... even when I probably shouldn't be. :P
Lies have their place... but only when the truth would be more harmful than the lie (which IMHO is very seldom). Even then, I'd be more likely to just omit part of the truth, than I would to outright lie.
/me is reminded of the movie "Liar, Liar (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119528/)".
Peace & Luv, Liz
Being a really truthful person, I find it really hard to lie. Of course, I can do it, but depending on how elaborate it is, the sick feeling in my stomach gets worse and worse. :S
Omission of information is fine, but when ya start misleading people by conjuring up stories and outright contradictions to the truth... that's when it starts getting out of hand. ::)
Heh, I've been keeping a secret from my family for a few months and revealed it a couple weeks ago. It was seriously such a relief to stop lying to em. The sad part is I still have to keep up this lie and many others to other people, until the time is right. Kinda hard to explain really, but it's all for the best.
I so wonder how people can be patholigical liars... do they have no conscience? :o
I try not to lie, thats all i can. i never lie intentionally but if i think something is the ruth and i say it and it turned out not then what i said earlier was a lie... right?
...still not intentionally. lol, but i rather be a nice honest person then an 'a******'. even if the truth is ugly there is no need for me to act like an 'a******'. but i agree it would be better to be honest and an 'a******' then to be sweet and lie.
*reads last post again* :o :o
Bushie!! Santa Claus doesn't exist!! :o :'( :'(
btw an exception is (ie. situation that i lie intentionally) when i am with friends and we are teasing each other but they know i don't mean it, lol they only have to look at my face to see a big smile, hahahaha, i am so bad in lying ;-D ...i never try that online though for the sole reason that they can't see it if i mean it :-\
Just depends on who im talking to, if i dont like the person I can lie and they would never be able to tell the diffrence but if im actually talking to someone i care about than that damn little voice in my head wont leave me alone.
John is your avatar from requiem for a dream? Just noticed it, tis all...
yet again i just did this massive post and it got rid of it so i wil hav to cut it down.
supposing one of your best friends has been playing round trying to get a prom dress.
you go round to her house and she says look at this...and she puts on this stunning dress and lets just say it doesnt look as stunning as you thought it would be.
you know that rule where u buy a size bigger so it doesnt show every lump and bump...she hasnt. she is a skinny moo without any flab, but the dress is too tight.
would u tell her the truth and make her depressed coz she hasnt got time to get another dress or hold you smile and say its stunning!?!
sometimes white lie prevent ppl gettin hurt.
Yeah, I'd probably say it's stunning. Maybe the tight-look was what she's going for? XD
Plus, it's more important for your friend to feel happy and secsay on her prom day, than to think her best friend hates her and/or her dress.
precisely..so lies are sometimes good...but im not promoting them lol
lol, yeah. That was a nice example of when the truth itself might be worse than lying, IMO. I don't think it makes you an immoral person, it just means you have to look at the overall picture sometimes and decide if the truth is really worth telling if its consequences are worse than lying. :)
so it doesnt mean im goin to hell
I hope not! XD I'm not really the one you should be asking anyway. 8)
:o u mean...ur not the almighty god of the forum...joke!
ah well, i gave up my seat for an old person today so im not goin to hell...i hope!
well you could just say that the dress is stunning, and don't mention the part that it doesn't look good on her ;-D
hahahaha, i know several occasions when a good friend of my asked me if i liked her hair/cloth/whatever and i just said it looked 'different' (lol, she could laugh at my attempt not to hurt her but also telling the truth ; )
I have this problem when girls ask me how they look in something i will be brutally honest and i cant help it, its a problem gotten me in trouble a few times.
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on June 23, 2004, 07:31:41 AM
John is your avatar from requiem for a dream? Just noticed it, tis all...
Yeah it was but i had to take it down im looking for a new one now.
I would probably say it looks okay but if pressed about the dress then I would say that I do not care for it much. I can't help not being honest because it goes against my nature and yes that little voice is very strong within me! :>
Kimmie, why are you worried about hell? It is not for people to judge and you sound like a person who is really nice. I would not get bent out of shape about that but if you are interested then feel free to e-mail me at the account listed and I will share my beliefs but the topic is taboo on the forums. Have a fantastic day. :> !!! 8) ;D ;-D
Personally, I likely would have said something like "I love the dress, but you probably should get it in a size up." If she didn't have time to, I'd probably warn her that it looked too tight. My reasoning is, not everyone at the dance is going to be a nice person, and if I look crappy in something I'd rather hear about it from a friend who will be nice, than an "enemy" who will be a jerk. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
When I do lie, I'm pretty decent at it... but I hardly ever flat-out lie to anyone, even when it's in my best interest. That's probably why I suck so bad at job interviews :P (Well, that and having 0 self-confidence and ablitilies :()
I'm not against lying in some cases, especially when it's about trivial matters where the truth would be more harmful - if that girl really looks awful in that dress I'd tell her that, but if it's just a little thing and she can't help it anyways, I'll keep it to myself.
The same thing goes for lying when it comes to protecting your privacy. Say someone asks you about something you'd rather not tell, but you can't avoid answering them altogether since that would give the wrong (or right) impression. So it's ok to say stuff like "that's not prozac I'm taking, those are vitamin pills" or "I'm using those condoms for balloons" even if it's a lie. It doesn't hurt anyone and it's none of their business anyway :P
However, I'm definately against lying when it's meant to decieve/mislead and hurt other people for your own pleasure... even if it's just as a joke >:(
I once told someone the song "Otherside" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers has a homosexual meaning (because of the line "take it on the other side") :P.
He got really upset when he found I made that up, though I thought he knew I was joking :-\
lol, that means you are a good lier storm, most ppl are on to me when i make a joke ;-D
and the tip i got for job interviews is that i have to exaggerate or atleast not beeing modest) about my abilities/skills/etc, it seems that i suck at that :-\
It happened was at a party last night girl asked me if she looked fat in some jeans and i nicely suggested that she might want to get a few sizes bigger......she wasnt very happy.
QuoteMy reasoning is, not everyone at the dance is going to be a nice person
oh dont worry. i dont think any1 wants to spoil prom night...altho if certain ppl said anything i know for a fact there would be quite a few broken noses...if its the ppl im thinking of they would hav a LOT of enemies and so wouldnt dare say anything about one of the *head girls team*[/glow]
Quote from: Yonkey on June 25, 2004, 12:05:40 PM
Heh, I tried the lying or kissing-up at job interviews and
that SO didn't work for me. :suffer:
LOL DONT LIE OR KISS UP, lol :P omg, kissing up is THE worst, its so freaking kish it's even disgusting :P it's not lying, it's being realistic but in a good way :P aka optimistic, thinking good stuff and all that crap :D
Im honest, there is nothing worse than someone who has no self confidence in what they do, not just to mention someone who has no certainty out of anything, who is vague, random, weak personality, it's just takes out a lot off your side.
Quote from: Say on June 25, 2004, 06:43:15 PMIm honest, there is nothing worse than someone who has no self confidence in what they do, not just to mention someone who has no certainty out of anything, who is vague, random, weak personality, it's just takes out a lot off your side.
Oh, yeah, I forgot... two more reasons why I suck at job interviews. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Jeysie please stop being so hard on yourself because it is starting to get me depressed that you feel so down. Your person adds a lot to these forums and you need to have a positive attitude and the world can so screw themselves when they are ticked at you. This is another reason my faith is strong because it helps me to get through the day when almost everyone is being mean to me. LOL :> ;)
Quote from: Kimmie on June 23, 2004, 08:28:36 AM
so it doesnt mean im goin to hell
Well you arent on my list so hell isnt for you ;) :D
ah well, guess i wont be meetin up with jason in the next life, u know- me being all angelic and all ::)
I'm sorry I'm depressing you, Dew. :( I get Harrison depressed, too.
But it's hard to feel self-confident about stuff. I'm always doing stupid stuff and making mistakes, and it seems like every time I let myself think I'm good at something I either end up finding out I'm not, or I screw it up somehow. I'm always afraid of saying I'm good at things in interviews, because I worry that I'll end up not being able to follow through if I get the job.
Harrison hasn't been helping lately, either. Every time I screw up something or do badly at something (which is often :P ), he says it's because "I didn't try hard enough." He claims he's just trying to motivate me to do better, but since I'm already doing the best I can it just makes me feel worse about messing up. I guess I'm kind of flattered he tends to look at me through rose-colored glasses and think I'm better at stuff than I am (though he constantly claims he doesn't) but it's getting irritating. :P
I come off a lot more "eloquent" online than I do offline. Whenever I'm around someone I don't know offline, I tend to either be very reticent and quiet, or babble and stammer like an idiot. I have several people offline who have told me that when they first met me they thought I was nice but a few bricks shy of a load, and were (usually pleasantly) surprised to find out later I have some brains.
Unfortunately, Harrison's mom was one of those people... for the longest time she wondered why Harrison liked hanging out with me because she thought I was an airhead. :P Also, unfortunately, I have a suspicion that some of the people I've interviewed with over the years have thought similar things.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Well, I think that you are smart Jeysie if that helps to make you feel any better and you must believe in yourself. God helps me to do this but I think that each individual needs to find their own path to their true destiny and calling upon this Earth. ;)
[Hope mentioning God does not offend anyone -- I am trying to encourage someone so I think it is necessary. :>]
BTW, Jeysie I would suggest that you and Harrison watch "It's a Wonderful Life". This movie is old and black and white but it is my favorite move and always cheers me up when I am depressed. It always is available for sale in the U.S. around Christmas but I am sure that you will be able to find it for rental or you could order it on-line. I do not think you will be disappointed. Just my two cents. (Yes! 500 posts Awesome for me!)
Quote from: Kimmie on June 27, 2004, 10:23:59 AM
ah well, guess i wont be meetin up with jason in the next life, u know- me being all angelic and all ::)
I make occasional visits to heaven so watch out Kimmie i might see you :P :suffer:
Why would you want to do what normal people do? I'm crap in real life small talk and stuff, I'd rather just have silence than babbeling crap but I've got to the point where I don't care and I often act like I'm *TOO* interested in what the person is saying so they think im taking the piss hehe. Ahhhh aint the little things of life great! ;)
Mostly because normal people have things like social lives, significant others, and decent jobs... while I spend my mornings as a file clerk in an office where nothing works, and then I spend the rest of the day at home alone on my computer. :P
And that's just social issues... if I got into biological issues we'd be here all day. ::)
Being unique is only a good thing if it's the sort of uniqueness that brings you happiness. In my case, I'd rather just be like everyone else, because my uniqueness has mostly made me miserable. ::) :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Heck without my family and friends, I would be worse off and I do not dwell on the bad stuff. Cancer twice -- survived with help of radiation and chemotherapy. Learning Disabled -- overcome with hard work still shows up sometimes -- eg. reverse letters -- laugh it off Vision Problems -- had vision therapy -- exercises to overcome it --- and I could go on and on but I do not let it get me down because I have faith and courage. You must let your faith grow in you. It does not matter to me what you place your faith in but I think it is important for the human pscyche to feel that there is a greater force than they are. Be you a Hindu, Jew, Christian or something else it helps to define who you are. Now I need you to stop feeling sorry for yourself and focus on the positive. A good way to start is to mediate and thank this force for all the positive things in your life. Just give it a try and get back to me. It may take a few months but be patient and I am sure you will overcome. Carpe Diem -- "Seize the Day" LOL !!! ;D ;-D :>
I try to look on the positive, but there's a lot more negative. All I can ever see is all the problems I have that I can't fix... most of which I've had for years. :( And then there's the things I wish I could have that I can't get... and I don't mean material things you can buy, either. :P
Edit: And I wouldn't say I feel sorry for myself. All but 1 of the lousy things that have happened to me in my life are a result of my own screw-ups and failures, so I don't deserve pity from anyone, let alone myself. :P
If I'm going to feel sorry for someone, I'd rather it be for someone who has deserved and earned better things but didn't get them because life cut them raw deals out of their control.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Well, I hope things work out for you in the future. :>
i am pessimistic :P
I am optimistic because I beat cancer! 8) !!! :D
I'm a... well, I don't know what the term would be. I always anticipate the worst and try to prepare for it. Most of the time I'm pleasantly surprised and it doesn't happen, but if it does I'm not caught off-guard.
Dew, I have to admit that, ironically enough, dealing with someone else's cancer is what caused me to lose my own faith and optimism (I'm honestly not sure I ever had any faith, but I did used to be a lot more optimistic). If you feel you want details, PM me.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on June 29, 2004, 05:18:40 PM
Mostly because normal people have things like social lives, significant others, and decent jobs... while I spend my mornings as a file clerk in an office where nothing works, and then I spend the rest of the day at home alone on my computer. :P
What's so bad about that? this is pretty much the life I'm trying for - except for the file clerk part, but right now I'll be more than happy to settle for that ;)
I know I'm far more lucky than many other people and have no right to complain about my life, but I always do anyways. My problems always seem bigger than everyone else's simply because I'm the one who has to deal with them, so I do endulge myself and wallow in self-pity from time to time 8)
Quote from: Storm on July 05, 2004, 06:10:45 AMQuote from: Jeysie on June 29, 2004, 05:18:40 PMMostly because normal people have things like social lives, significant others, and decent jobs... while I spend my mornings as a file clerk in an office where nothing works, and then I spend the rest of the day at home alone on my computer. :P
What's so bad about that? this is pretty much the life I'm trying for - except for the file clerk part, but right now I'll be more than happy to settle for that ;)
Being a file clerk isn't bad... although with everyone always claiming I'm smart, I feel guilty about not doing "better", I guess. The place I work in is frustrating, though.
Being alone on my computer definitely sucks... I wish I had somewhere to go, or someone to hang out with.
I agree on the "I'm lucky" part. My life isn't really bad... just kind of empty.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I am pessimistic because of past experiences :-\ :(
Well, I am leaving now for vacation and my posts will be nonexistent or limited for the next three weeks. If anyone asks pass the word. I am oatta here! !!!
have a nice vacation Dew!! ;-D
Quote from: Jeysie on July 05, 2004, 08:10:07 AMBeing alone on my computer definitely sucks... I wish I had somewhere to go, or someone to hang out with.
I used to feel that way too... but then when I went places or hang out with people I usually wished I was sitting alone by my computer. Guess I'm not cut out for socializing :-\
Quote from: Jeysie on July 05, 2004, 08:10:07 AM
Quote from: Storm on July 05, 2004, 06:10:45 AMQuote from: Jeysie on June 29, 2004, 05:18:40 PMMostly because normal people have things like social lives, significant others, and decent jobs... while I spend my mornings as a file clerk in an office where nothing works, and then I spend the rest of the day at home alone on my computer. :P
What's so bad about that? this is pretty much the life I'm trying for - except for the file clerk part, but right now I'll be more than happy to settle for that ;)
Being a file clerk isn't bad... although with everyone always claiming I'm smart, I feel guilty about not doing "better", I guess. The place I work in is frustrating, though.
Being alone on my computer definitely sucks... I wish I had somewhere to go, or someone to hang out with.
I agree on the "I'm lucky" part. My life isn't really bad... just kind of empty.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Get a dog. That way you wont always be at the computer and you wont ever be alone. Problem solved ;D Although for some reason i seem to think you're allergic to dogs...i may be remembering someone else though.
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on July 06, 2004, 12:29:12 PMAlthough for some reason i seem to think you're allergic to dogs...i may be remembering someone else though.
I'm not allergic to dogs... but I'm not very comfortable around them, either. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Well im not exactly at ease round them either but if you had your own it would see you as "mama" and love and adore you and never ask for anything in return ('part from food and walks of course). I plan on getting one the minute i move out. That and a hefty loan too.
Well, I already have a cat who gives me love and rubs... and I don't even have to walk him! ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Ok, ok I think this kinda fits in to this thread...
I'er got one unexplainable thing that everyone lives through every day...
Time.
Seriously, someone explain time to me.
There is absolutely no concrete explination for time.
and time slips!
but ur right..what is time, i know science has its explanations but science can be wrong. its only scienftic until proved otherwise. we label time with numbers, dates etc but its weird thinking about it, oh thanx very much now im on a loop in my brain, just like what came first the chicken or the egg...
in response to neils long post i had something relevant..an example, but since my exams i flushed that knowledge out of my brain if i look at my notes and find it at any point i will add it in...but i doubt it! :P
anyway...what about <3 love <3
love is an unexplained thing that i believe in. its different 4 every1 and yet most of us experience it at some point in our lives.
there's love between a couple, one sided love, love for a friend, love for a child, love for a pet, love for chocolate etc
I dont know if love is good or bad :-\, it has its rewards but it also has its down points :(
yup, like most things in life i guess
Well the scientific explination would be that love is our societal definition for the primitive sexual urges brought on by ones hormones.
But, come on, how unromantic is that!
Personally I think love can pretty much be summed up by this little guy. :lovegoggles:
Quote from: racx_00 on July 09, 2004, 08:36:55 AM
I dont know if love is good or bad :-\, it has its rewards but it also has its down points :(
Downs are it can cause you some of the worse pain you have ever felt in your life, but i think when its good the pain that can come from it is worth that feeling you have when its good.
I believe in dragons *runs away* ;B
>sings< "I believe in a thing called love..."
Sorry, I couldn't help that. That song makes me giggle merrily.
Actually, I'm not sure I *do* believe in love (this coming from the son of a romance novelist :-X)
EDIT: Romantic love that is!
Btw, thanks Rob!
Love: (Courtesy of Webster's Dictionary 1828)
. . . "In short, we love whatever gives us pleasure and delight, whether animal or intellectual; and if our hearts are right, we love God above all things, as the sum of all excellence and all the attributes which can communicate happiness to intelligent beings.
(Sorry if anyone has trouble with this post but I am quoting a dictionary and feel free to take it up with Webster. :> See why I like some of the old language before our language was simplified.)
I think love is one of the greatest (in terms of power/strength, not always goodness, admittedly) human things. Not just romantic love, but all kinds of love. I think we are at our best when we do things out of love... love of a parent for their children, love of a person for their spouse or friend, love of honor and duty, love of humanity, etc. Not selfish love, love of oneself disguised as love for another thing (although a *healthy* amount of love for oneself is also important), but "pure" love.
Sometimes even "pure" love can lead people to go astray (the road to Hell is paved with good intentions, and all that), but I think when we can temper the motivation of love with the clear thought of logic and reason, we can do great things. When you strip away love, all you're left with is the simple drive to survive... what worth is that? You can call love a human invention to try to give more meaning to life than just that need to survive, but I'll still take it anyway. :)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Then there is also love and lust. When some guy says that girl is hot and he loves her when he has not even met her then I would take that as he is in lust with this girl in his heart. I see true and good love like this:
Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things. Love never fails!
(Now this is the type of love that I hope that I can grasp and understand some day. :> )
I found this in the 2004 Merriam-Webster Dictionary (http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=love):
Love:
1 a (1) : strong affection for another arising out of kinship or personal ties <maternal love for a child> (2) : attraction based on sexual desire : affection and tenderness felt by lovers (3) : affection based on admiration, benevolence, or common interests <love for his old schoolmates> b : an assurance of love <give her my love>
I agree with you on most parts, Dew. But I think love can be envious--after all, if someone you were in love with were with someone else wouldn't you be at least *slightly* envious of who they were with? Or at least wish you were in that someone else's place?
Love is something that i want to find with a beautiful woman, but i doubt it will happen :-\
Quote from: racx_00 on July 10, 2004, 07:01:08 PM
Love is something that i want to find with a beautiful woman, but i doubt it will happen :-\
Same here. The only thing I've felt so far for beautiful women is lust; definitely not love. :-\
I agree... part of feeling "pure" love for someone is wanting them to be happy... even if it may mean making yourself a bit miserable.
And... is it as impossible to look past a face and feel love as well as lust for a pretty woman, as it is to look into a face and feel lust as well as love for an ugly/plain woman? (If that made any sense at all!)
For me, the two tend to be intertwined... if I love someone, I'm attracted to them... and while I can think many guys (or girls) are good-looking, I'm usually not truly attracted to someone unless I find them appealing as a person, too.
Lust isn't necessarily a bad thing... as long as you love the person, too.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Kimmie on July 08, 2004, 12:25:49 PM
anyway...what about <3 love <3
Ahh, you foolish romantics, the lot of yous!!
Love is simply Evolution's way of making us preserve our species. Some of you might say "No Storm, that's SEX you're talking about" - that's also true, but since orgasms don't last 24/7, and raising a human child to sexual maturity takes about 16 years, Evolution had to find a way to make a couple stay together for longer than a one-night stand 8)
Yeah, but it still beats doing everything motivated by greed or power or worse, hate instead... or even worse than that, nothing at all. ;)
Besides, some of us still fall in love... but know that having kids is way too much trouble. Looks like Mother Nature only has half a hold on me. :suffer:
Peace & Luv, Liz
LOL Storm! ;D
Quote from: Jeysie on July 11, 2004, 06:18:31 AM
And... is it as impossible to look past a face and feel love as well as lust for a pretty woman, as it is to look into a face and feel lust as well as love for an ugly/plain woman? (If that made any sense at all!)
For me, the two tend to be intertwined... if I love someone, I'm attracted to them... and while I can think many guys (or girls) are good-looking, I'm usually not truly attracted to someone unless I find them appealing as a person, too.
Love based on attraction is really hard to achieve, IMHO since most people are
not the same inside as they are on the outside. The other thing is I'm more likely to be attracted to a girl that's friendly, sweet and has a great sense of humour, than one that's drop-dead gorgeous. It's like being in a huge candystore but picking something you
know you like, rather than something that just
appears to be good. ;D
Well, no wonder marriages turn out so lousy. One half is marrying people with pretty faces, so their sex life is great, but they don't get along with each other the rest of the time. The other half marries someone with a great personality, so they fit emotionally, but they can't stop staring (or worse!) at that hunk/babe walking past.
OK, so maybe I'm exaggerrating a bit lot. ;) Still, I always knew I was weird romantically... just didn't know how weird. ;P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Yonkey on July 10, 2004, 07:54:12 PM
Same here. The only thing I've felt so far for beautiful women is lust; definitely not love. :-\
Every female is beautiful, but not all of us see their beauty :-\
Sometimes it makes me wonder why humans think of themselves as so great. I just hope that more people will respect the planet and other animals such as dolphins and horses that live here. When I went to New Zealand last summer I saw a country that had their priorities with the environment straight. I just hope that the United States is willing to learn from other countries too. Anyway, back to the topic of what defines True Love. ;D
wow! i got u all thinking didnt i XD
:lovegoggles: <3 J'aime tu (that looks so wrong and yet i can tbe bothered seeing if its right...and yet its so simple...im losing i've lost my mind.
Love is imho (im a ho lol...sorry im tired)...love is displayed by that cartoon with that boy and girl on a swing <3 awww...no love is a strange feeling experienced by 2 ppl who care about each other so much that they get this little warm fuzzy feeling inside..oh i hav no clue i havnt experienced tru love yet...only 1 sided love! ::)
Yeah, if y'all wanted an essay on Unrequited Love, I could do that for ya. ;P
Peace & Luv, Liz
Well, anytime you'd like one on completely requited love, lemme know... ;P And I will again state the fact that I completely despise alll generalizations. ;) (I.E "Why marriages turn out so lousy"...) I can see where some people get the idea that maybe they all really DO turn out that way, but the trouble with that is, all the sources I could cite are right here in the States. :-\ As bad as it sounds, too many of us see marriage more of a burden, or something that you're supposed to "get something out of". Personally, I've known people exactly like who you described Jeysie, completely stuck on looks "Omg, he/she is the one... He's/She's SO hot!", or on personality "Well, we have so much in common." But are either of those anymore than bad stereotypes, when you think about it, honestly? You pretty much said exactly what we're deluged with everyday: Dumb (but hot) guys and girls, or intellient, vibrant (but ugly) guys and girls. You can only pick one. ::) And maybe that's true, to a point, because we all do our best everyday to fill one of those society-assigned roles. (Again, more specifically THIS society, it seems) But then there's some of us who've been lucky enough to find a "better half" who actually has both. So, in conclusion, my point is, don't knock true love until you've tried it. You really will know it when you see it.And if you have to go outside this country to find it, then so be it. I'm in love with the most amazing woman in the world, and I think the real trick is it to not place yourself in the position of worrying about whether they live up to everyone else's standards/stereotypes or whatever, just as long as they're perfect for YOU. Personally, I can't wait to get married... I don't think it's going to be a burdenat all, but rather that which will lift the burden off of me that I've carried around so long by myself; this thing called life that we're not put on this earth to live by ourselves. So, there's my weekly rant. ;P And since I know you're reading this, and bugging me to finish typing already and come back and talk to you: I LOVE YOU SAY! :lovegoggles:
OH.. MY.. GOD...
Quote from: ShinyKnight on July 12, 2004, 02:26:27 AM
So, there's my weekly rant. ;P And since I know you're reading this, and bugging me to finish typing already and come back and talk to you: I LOVE YOU SAY! :lovegoggles:
haha, that was beautiful, and now I feel bad for all the jokes I made to you while you were typing :P
aww, Im speachless... I really am, I love you <3
And you'll still marry me, even though I'm a pompous ranting/raving ass sometimes? ;P
OMG <3 <3 <3
It's ok Im a psycho paranoid nuts, we complement each other perfectly lol <3
See Jeysie, true love... Just two inmates in life's asylum. ;)
:'( <3 how touching...my cat loves me...thats as much as i've got at the mo :suffer:
u somehow gotta set up webcam at ur wedding so we can all watch...i wanna be virtual bridesmaid number 1 ;D
I luv ya Kimmie! I mean, how can we be Kim-Cat without the Kim?? :P
Do I hear wedding bells in the near future? Can I be virtual bridesmaid number 2?? Anyway, you guys are so sweet!
Cat
Woah. I sure missed this topic lol.
I don't think love is a thing that can ever be classified or described as it's different for every single person due to all teh different factors invlovled. As long as the "love" (wether some people see it as love or not) and feelings between two people makes them both happy then I'd call that true love.
I think like kimmie I've only experienced one sided love so far so I can't really comment on the "OMG warm fuzzlies" feelings and whatever.
Did someone say something about one-sided love?? Oh yeah, I've experienced that too...well, it was probably more along the lines of one-sided deep like! Still, when rejection comes, talk about heart-ache.
Hey, Alex! You didn't ask about being virtual groomsman number 1
Well if there's any wedding bells tolling for those two I'd hopefully be hopping on a plane rather than switching on the webcam ;D
In my defense :P I was being kind of sarcastic/incredulous... as to ask "So, what, a beautiful woman can never be good enough *inside* for anything but feeling lust for her? Somehow I doubt that." So you're kinda preaching your "It's not always beautiful/shallow or ugly/meaningful" bit to the choir, as it were.
(Although I personally don't do anything to dispel the "plain/good personality" stereotype myself... and the "good personality" part is questionable!)
I guess I was pointing out that many people *do* seem to buy into all that and focus on one or the other.
I was also trying to point out that I've always felt that if you really love someone, they'll be the most beautiful/handsome person on the planet to you no matter what. (Although I have to admit to wishing I was "objectively" beautiful myself... I'd feel like I was making some guy settle for "runner-up". I guess I'm shallow when it comes to how I feel about my own looks. ;P )
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on July 12, 2004, 07:41:52 AM
Well if there's any wedding bells tolling for those two I'd hopefully be hopping on a plane rather than switching on the webcam ;D
psst ...start saving up ;P
:o Say, are you hinting at something?? ;P
Cat
Aren't we well past the point of hinting, folks? ;P Or do we have to start posting pictures of rings again? ::) *pokes random people to wake them up*
:o
!!!
('nuff said)
I had no clue you guys were so serious! Does this mean that congratulations are in order?
Cat
you want us to send you the wedding registry? is still on the works :D lmao
!!! !!! !!!
omg still in state of shock!!
Congratulations you two!!
Looks like we're going to have a KQ9 wedding on our hands!
*throws bridal shower*
and to think...it all happend in a thread i created, im so proud! ;P
aw yey, first kq9 wedding, unless cat gets there first. ;D (howz it goin with chris?)
i may hav a secret to reveal too... ;P
No word from him...yet! And you're going to have to fill me in girl!! :P
Cat
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on July 13, 2004, 07:14:37 AM
!!! !!! !!!
omg still in state of shock!!
:D :D :D *supah hugglez* :D :D :D
lol i havnt really, i have no excitement in my life :'( tho today im going on a picnic and window shopping HARR! :suffer: oh what fun!
You have more going on in your life than I do! Today, while you're out on your picnic and window shopping, I'll be in two different classes and then studying for two tests tomorrow :(
Cat
LOL!
Since when do you study Cat :P ???
oh sorry i was thinking about myself :-\
Actually...I didn't study for my tests. Not until Thursday morning :P Kept putting it off. Still did well ;D Can't expect it every time, though.
Cat
Well, since Say can't exactly say it....
OMGWTFCONGRATZSAYANDMICHAEL <3 <3 <3
Heheheh, congratulations! :D
hahahaha thanks Q, <3 <3 <3
Cat, I really like the picture of the cat. Does this cat in the picture belong to you? It is really cute. :>
Nope...she's just a pic I found online. :P But isn't she SOOOO cute??
*Pets kitty
There's a poll on what we should name her. So far, "Crystal" is winning XB
Cat
She reminds me of my old cat which was gray and white.