(This is a slightly personal topic, so I figured Haven was as good a place as any. ;P )
I've thought about this matter before, but tonight got me really thinking about it a bit.
Earlier tonight, Harrison asked me when I'd be done online, so he could go online. I was downloading something, so I very sincerly said I'd be done in about 20 minutes when it was finished downloading.
Well, as the download was getting close to finished, an online friend "buzzed" me. I'd managed to get myself into some issues with him, and he wanted to talk about it. So I started trying to sort things out with him. And then a couple other people buzzed me. And then I had another friend with some problems (thankfully not with me as well), and well, by time I got it all sorted out and disentangled myself, it was a lot longer than 20 minutes!
Harrison was a bit cranky at this. So I apologized and said that I'd had some online friends approach me with some issues. I then pointed out that I'd actually wanted to get offline to work on stuff, so getting bogged down wasn't that great a development for me either. He asked me why I couldn't have just said I didn't have time to talk, and I asked him, well, if some of his friends had problems, wouldn't he want to help them? He didn't really have an answer for that.
That sort of thing's come up before, though. I like to help people out wherever I can, and have a lot of ideas in my head I want to do, and between the two of those things I've managed to bite off a bit more than I can chew and I'm pretty bogged down with stuff to do for myself and for online friends. So I've been having to beg off going out offline and doing things because I've got so much stuff to do. But it looks to another person that I spend all my time just wasting time on my computer.
I told Harrison, well, if he promised to do stuff for his friends, wouldn't he do it? He said that was different (meaning, promising offline friends instead of online ones).
Which got me wondering... is it different? I know this is sort of a biased crowd to ask, but... ;) Is it just that the two of us think on different wavelengths about this sort of thing? Or is it that I'm trying to justify the fact that I've never had much of an offline social life, even before I got internet access? I do know either way I've unintentionally been kind of a jerk to Harrison lately, but I'm not sure what to do about it, since I do have a lot of stuff I promised to do for people, even if they are online ones. This seems to be my week for unintentionally causing problems in general.
Blargh. Any perspectives?
Peace & Luv, Liz
lol, my online friends are the same as offline friends, so to me it's all the same, but my real real friends here, Dean and Cesar and stuff.
Example, Dean and Cesar DID help me with my thesis, Dean was there bitching at me to get s*** done and understanding lol and Cesar actually did went though the whole document helping me review it and such, my point is that they both have done things for me that are beyond favors or meaningful things but in one way or another we've met 2 years by now and we are extremely close to each other, I have talked to both, I've seen them both (webcam & microphone) we do work together and such, we do respect each other and sometimes I get to talk more than Cesar than to what I actually do to my mom lol. So if that's not a REAL friend, geez... I dont know what it is. :) Cesar is closer to me and Im closer to Dean but we 3 are pretty close I would say.
Even my mom knows about Cesar and Dean lol, my mom has even talked to Cesar many times by now hahaha, so yeah, to me it is real :)
But my offline friends are exactly the same as my online friends, just for the sake I go offline it doesnt means they are not my friends anymore, but yeah I know what you meant though, and I would say I dont have anyone like that here myself.
I'm hoping you were asking anyone who was willing to listen. If not, just say so.
I think that Offline friends are probaby more important. Although if they're your friends, it's as simple as that, they're your friends. I think Harrison should have been more understanding. I didn't hear it from both sides, so I can't be sure about that last statement.
P.S. I have few friends(online or offline), because few people will put up with me. So I'm probably biased, I normally put family first anyways.
I never spend much time with my family anymore, so that's not much of a consideration. (Not for any reason related to this, I should add.)
And yeah, anyone who wants to can say something. ;) I suppose I wasn't really looking for advice, per se, so much as I was curious about how other people feel about this sort of thing in their own lives (if it's even an issue!).
Peace & Luv, Liz
I treat online friends just as well as offline friends, but my mom doesn't seem to understand me having friends I've never met face to face. :S It seems to me that there's always a risk with either online or offline people, there will always be hidden things you don't know about. Either way, I don't think that online people are any less deserving of respect than offline folk.
You asked for perspectives, so I gave one.
I don't think many people would post it on the public boards, if it was very important. Then again, this is Haven...
Now I'm wondering why I'm in here...
Heh, I didn't mean to sound critical... just that you sounded a bit unsure with your post, so I wanted to clarify what I was really wondering about. :)
Peace & Luv, Liz
I was slightly unsure of my post. I rarely join forums, this is the 5th one that I've joined,and half the time they're company forums. So trying to avoid causing a disturbance has become habit. I'm new to the forum, more or less, and am just finding out what kind of people are here. I haven't had to be too careful with what I've posted so far.
Square-Enix wouldn't have thought twice about kicking out somone that caused them the slightest trouble. I also haven't had to worry about the people that go looking for a fight(FPS players), that tend to lie about people that they don't like, simply to get them kicked out. So far I'm liking it here just fine, and am hoping that I didn't go too far off topic.
P.S. I don't mean all FPS players, there are just a lot more trouble-makers in the FPS groups.
I would prefer ....friends, i don't care if I see them only offline or online, I have a few good friends, most I see only offline,
....but some online ppl (one in particular :lovegoggles:) I would love to see offline, cuz there are beautiful ppl online i never even met offline :o :'(
Well, here's my ten cents worth...(you know, taxes, inflation, etc. :) )
To me, there is a difference between online and IRL (in real life). I'm not sure if I'll explain in correctly or explain in well, but I'll give it a go.
I don't really act any differently online or offline. (So yes, I'm this much of a jackass in real life, too...:D) I do develop an emotional bond that can be as strong as with people I know IRL. I express myself, I talk, I listen, I care, I webcam, I use the microphone, I connect with people, I dislike certain people. It's a distinct and real form of interaction. (it's easier to be insincere online, but people can lie to you IRL, too.)
BUT....as real as it all is, what do all of us who met online want to do when we realize we connect with someone. We want to meet. We want to interact IRL. To me, that suggests that there's something more IRL. (Maybe not more, but at least different.) Is it a certain closeness? Is it another way to connect? Is it just being able to say what you want to say to people and right to their face? Is it the ability to hug or someone you care about? I'm not sure what it is....and it's probably different for everyone. But there seems to be some sort of additional "reality" in person than online.
Again, not that online is completely meaningless, trivial, or a difference with how you act....but there's something extra with doing the same thing IRL.
Now, as to how other people see it....I think I might be able to state that a little more clearly.
Simply put, those who have met other people online understand it, and those who have never done it just don't get it.
For example:
I went out to a friend I initially met online, and then later met in person. We decided to hang out one night and we were also meeting additional friends of mine (who I've all met in person before). So, we meet up and I'm introducing my old army buddy to this new online friend. Explained to him that we met online via the internet. Well, he didn't say anything, but I could tell by the look on his face....he was a little surprised and obviously thought it a little weird. He couldn't understand how you could make friends that way.
There's still an underlying misconception that everyone online is some sort of desperate creep or something. I know my parents would never understand, either. My mother's concern would be because of the aforementioned reason involving people's insincerity and possible criminal activity. But, meet a person at a bar, it can likely be the same result. Again, it's just easier to do that online these days.
So yeah, it's just different worlds, but real life just seems to be the preference of most people....online or not.
Quote from: J-ROC on May 31, 2004, 01:59:52 AM
Again, not that online is completely meaningless, trivial, or a difference with how you act....but there's something extra with doing the same thing IRL.
I think that sums it all :P because it is true I mean, they both can become really important and such but there is always a plus in RL :P
I find online people easier to get on with.
It's probably somewhat to do with my want of solitude in the real world, plus nobody seems to really understand me there. I don't mean that with regard to the occasional bout of insanity, either.
Don't get me wrong, I do have offline friends. Not very many though. I find it easier to make friends with someone online because I can just type to them. I don't need to hear what goes on. I can find people who like what I do easier, too. I met my boyfriend through the Internet. A lot of my best friends are from the Internet.
I'm not saying that I hate all offline people, I just find online life easier.
Well, I find it easier to initiate with people online....but after I get to know them, I'd still rather spend time with those people in person than online.
Trust me Leanne, you'd lub me in person! ;)
I agree with James!! ;-D ..it is much easier to talk to ppl online, cuz i'm a bit shy in RL, well, ..I used to, it's a bit less now, but i still have some trouble to initiate a conversation with someone i don't know ; \
I agree with the last few posts.
it is so much easier to talk to someone u hav only known for a short while. like i said to nate a few days ago, i can open up more to someone i hav never met because u know they arent gonna tell any1 that u know lol.
plus the people i hav met on this board are so supportive and caring so i just cant help bogging u down with my problems ;D
i am a simple person...and by now most of u know that ;P but i hav found many people on here that i like alot and i can talk to u guys just like i talk to my *real life face to face* friends.
i think its nicer to get a break from my every day routine too.i hav known my best friend for 14 years now and i see her prettyy much every day and thats great. but to me...gettin a different perspective from people in the US, Australia, Netherlands and even Birmingham (lol) is helpful and nice to think u can hav connections all over the world.
this is the first board i hav stayed on for longer than 2 weeks...because they bored me. this place has to much to offer my strange mind and i love it. i love the people on here as u are all creative and i like to think i hav a slightly better creative side than having to do maths or science ;P
i hav created a few special bonds...or would like to think so with a few of you.
i think i like my balance of offline and online.
<3
What's nice about online stuff is that people see your mind before you usually, instead of real life where they judge you first by what they see.
ugh, indeed :-X
It has happened to me a lot :( ppl just asume stupid things about me and they just get intimidated (Im fugly! :P) or they think I dont like to talk (I am serious most of the times) and once they get to know me they do believe I hate the world (well I do, just not everyday) hahaha, so it is easier for me to not be so expressive in person so ppl would stop asuming things, Im a quiet, introverted girl, that doesnt means Im anti-social and that I will bite heads off (not all the time though! lol). Besides I just dont look my age at all.
yeah offline is easier to bond and form tight relationships, but still, there are exceptions, cuz I like someone online more (and different) then my offline friends ;]
Quote from: dew7 on June 01, 2004, 11:59:25 AM
Rob you run this forum really well and have a great sense of humor.
thnx for the compliment Dew, but I'm not running this forum, I'm just helping, the credit goes to the complete webteam and especially Say and Neil (they just rule!! ; )
Quote from: dew7 on June 01, 2004, 11:59:25 AM
You can express your speech better through body language. You can be sarcastic and the other person knows by the tone of your voice.
that is so true, apparently communication is around 80% body language (tone, gesture, etc) and only 20% about the actualy message (the conversation itself)
I read this from a psychology study for PR and social effective communication skills.
Wow, Alex, deep! And you make so many valid points! Wow...nothing to really say to that...
Cat
right group effort here people
ahem
*LETS ALL HUG ALEX* now if we all think about hugging alex, he may get a warm squishy feeling inside when he reads this
look at the * <----- (the star) when u read this post mentally hug alex and wen he sees the star he will feel our hug and our love
i so want to be a hippy right now
*goes off to hug a tree*
we <3 u alex
*big huggle for Alex*
omfgkimmieh you tree hugger freak :P ;-D <3
;D
Thanks for the comments guys. I'm not like uberly depressed now or anything I just get to thinking alot recently...
And Sayd believe me you couldn't have been any more supportive and just great back then so don't even think you weren't!
So yeah, let the discussion carry on people of the forum! :P
Wow, what a massive topic! !!! I could probably write a thesis on it myself, since online vs. offline it's actually a very real issue for people and becoming more and more of one each day.
Anyway, I'd probably say I'm somewhat more extrovertive online than offline, but really it depends on how well I know you offline. :P Otherwise, I'm pretty much the same person online as offline. I'm just as respectful, honest, open-minded and hard-working offline as online.
The thing I've noticed is that I've had offline friends that were absolutely nothing like me and others that were extremely like me. Online friends are pretty much the same. The common interest is being computer savvy enough to use the internet, but other then that I've met extremely different people online that I probably would never meet in real life.
What you guys said earlier is true too. It's easier to deal with tough times and experiences online since you don't have the person right in front of you. Unfortunately, it's a lot harder to get jokes, sarcasm and even some stories online than in person. Facial expressions, body language, intimacy, physical closeness are all there for offline friends and that's probably why eventually, whether we like it or not, we would love to meet some of the people we talk to online one day in person if that were possible.
The thing that's hard for people to understand is that just because your friends aren't physically in front of you, doesn't mean they aren't real. ::) We're not talking to soul-less, inatamate objects here, we're talking to actual people who have feelings and live and breathe just like anyone else. :)
At tough times you wish that you were with that person, lol, many times my best friend told me to get to his place right away (or vica versa) when I seemed to be down when I was talking online ; )
it is easy if that person lives close (ie. offline friend too) much harder, if he isn't around ; \
Quote from: Yonkey on June 02, 2004, 10:25:55 PM
The thing that's hard for people to understand is that just because your friends aren't physically in front of you, doesn't mean they aren't real. ::) We're not talking to soul-less, inatamate objects here, we're talking to actual people who have feelings and live and breathe just like anyone else. :)
hahahhaha... lol, so close to say something I shouldn't :-X ;-D ; )
Ok and here is what i have to say ;D
My online friends are like my offline friends, i act the same around offline friends as i do online friends (thats as a sarcastic prick as you all know ;D), anyway i dont see the difference between online and offline friends, they are still friends and they should be treated the same thats my opinion anyway. There is one major difference though, you cant see eachother or hear each other :-\, but still i lub my online friends just as much as my offline ones ;D
It's much easier for me to 'approach' someone online than offline. Offline I wait for someone else to make first contact, but online I am more likely to make first contact. Online friendships can be rewarding, but eventually RL has to take over.
I'm also more 'open' online. If these threads could be translated to a real life conversation, you would most definitely hear me a lot less than you can read me now.
Anyway, if an online friend comes to you for help, I believe you should help that friend in any way you can.
Quote from: copycat on June 03, 2004, 02:35:30 PM
It's much easier for me to 'approach' someone online than offline. Offline I wait for someone else to make first contact, but online I am more likely to make first contact. Online friendships can be rewarding, but eventually RL has to take over.
I'm also more 'open' online. If these threads could be translated to a real life conversation, you would most definitely hear me a lot less than you can read me now.
Anyway, if an online friend comes to you for help, I believe you should help that friend in any way you can.
My thoughts exactly! I'd just add that I've been able to approach people before offline, but maintaining an interesting conversation with them is definitely my roadblock. As soon as you run out of stuff to say, it's like... awkward silence. ;P
I guess there are so many more things to talk about, do or show online than in RL, so it's pretty hard to be
completely bored. Though, I have had it happen before. ;P
I don't have or want a webcam, with a 56k connection, people seem less real than typing. Even though I've never tryed webcamming, I assume I'd get the same results I get from a live video feed. If you've ever seen how somone looks when they move, while turning the lights on and off in a room, it's like that.
yeh i hav seen it too! i got a pic of u smiling didnt i! ;D
i know! what would we do without the internet and email?
Say and neil and the rest of the crew would hav lives...and maybe a little less stress
none of us would know each other
kings quest IX wouldnt be made... :S
I probably would have never even met Cesar or Dean or Neil or ANY of you, and now that's a sad thought. Im glad no matter what it is the way it is.
its not a sad thought Say because u did meet us all :) <3 its a happy thought ;D
:) ;D
Yeah, I can't even imagine a world without the Internet anymore. :X
Funny, the internet (or local bulletin boards, back in the day, with my 2400 baud modem) is how I've met some of my best friends evur.
Things would most definitely be different for me.
Not sure if I'd get out of the house more or less, though.
And the only good side to not having internet is that I probably wouldn't have carpal tunnel syndrome. I guess it's worth it. :D
A world without the internet.... wow. I'd like to say I'd be with my offline friends more, but honestly I have no idea if that's even true.
I used to watch TONS of TV and listen to the radio a lot in my pre-Internet days. I did use the computer a lot too, but not as much as those other two. I might become a phone-junkie again, most likely replacing the online addiction with a new and exciting cell phone addiction. Heh. Spooky.
I dont think internet replaced my social life as much as it replaced my sleep.
Having been awake for 44 hours straight at one time, I have concluded this:
Sleep is for chumps.
:D
Sleep=bad
I wish sleep wasn't necessary.
For one, I could use the extra 8 hours to get stuff done.
For two, it would eliminate the problem of sleeping poorly at night, then feeling like crap the next day. Like, oh, the past two weeks. I've already managed to make several mistakes both at work and on personal projects, because I can't think straight. (Considering my brain is naturally futzed to begin with, being stuck with sleep deprivation is not a good thing.)
Peace & Luv, Liz
i wish i could do without sleep too, i sleep hardly more then 5 hours a night but i feel my body needs and wants more :-\
I'm not sure what I'd do without my online friends. I'd probably hang out with my offline friends more, but just seems like they've gone their separate ways since we've been going off to school and everything. And one of them has so much more in common w/ my sis now that I feel like the outsider anytime we hang out. *sighs* I'm depressed now! :P
Cat
wow, so you actually can feel tired if you do not sleep and you feel tired also if you oversleep?
Yep. Isn't the human body great? :P
I think it's sort of an inertia thing... once your body has been sleeping past a certain point, it wants to keep sleeping. That's Harrison's theory, anyway, and it makes sense to me. ;)
If I didn't have a computer and the Internet, I probably *would* just sleep whenever I was home... there's just not much else for me to do most the time.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Yeah, you CAN get too much sleep. I find out that I feel this way after getting about 8 hours. All I want to do after that is sleep! So, guys, the best thing to do is get into a routine (look who I'm talking to!). Go to bed at a certain time, get up at a certain time. You'll start feeling better within a week! (like anyone here will take the advice!)
Cat
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 22, 2004, 10:26:52 AM
(like anyone here will take the advice!)
hahahaha, that was so funny but sadly so true haha, we got insomniacs all over around here :P we even have a night owl thread! ;P
Well, I've gone back to sleeping once midnight strikes or earlier, I used to stay up till 8 in the morning! :o
Quote from: Oldbushie on June 22, 2004, 01:36:41 PM
Well, I've gone back to sleeping once midnight strikes or earlier, I used to stay up till 8 in the morning! :o
Heh, I'm doing the complete opposite these days. I can't go to bed before midnight and I still wake up around 8 or 9 in the morning. :'(
Benjiman Franklin
"Early to bed
early to rise
make a man healthy, wealthy and wise."
I wish I listened to that, but I don't.
For some reason -- 7 hours is best for me and I sleep more when the weather is colder --sleep then almost always feels deeper and I love having a blanket or two and being warm while the room is ice cold -- only problem is that I do not want to get up -- LOL --- usually 5-7 hours in the summer and 6-9 hours in the winter here in Arizona -- land of the heat, sun and oh yeah -- monsoons --- best season here in Tucson, Arizona -- in my opinion -- :> -- where do you live, Jeysie if you do not mind me asking?
I go to bed at like 7 pm and sleep till like 1 am so only six hours a sleep i should get back to sleeping normal.
I'm usually in bed between 9 and 10...and usually wake up right around 6...but with the sun rising earlier and earlier, it's more like 5:30. When that happens, I turn over and stuff my head in a pillow to make it dark again!
Cat
Quote from: dew7 on June 23, 2004, 12:42:36 AM-- where do you live, Jeysie if you do not mind me asking?
I live in Springfield, Massachusetts. In the western part of the state, which nobody ever hears about. ;) I grew up in Pittsfield, MA, though, which is ever further west... not too far off from Upstate New York.
The weather here is cold and snowy in the winter, and hot and humid and rainy in the summer. Spring and fall are usually quite nice, but last maybe a few weeks at most, weather-wise. :P
My natural sleep cycle seems to be 4AM to noon, for some odd reason. However, since most jobs and errands require getting up well before noon, I tend to just fall asleep whenever I'm tired, which can be anywhere from 6PM to 2AM depending on how zonked/wired I am. Then I get up between 4AM and 7AM. (I have to be to work at 9AM on the weekdays.)
I find I need 6 to 8 hours sleep... well, at least, that's the amount that leaves me the least tired. (I don't remember feeling refreshed upon getting up ever in my life.) I need at least 4-5 hours sleep... if I know I'd get less than that during a given night for some reason, I'll actually be relatively more alert just by staying up. ("Relatively" being the operative term. :P )
Peace & Luv, Liz
I like routines that help quiet myself before bed. Usually, I will read a book. I especially like the James Herriot books [(All Creatures Great and Small)] because he is a veteranian and helps heal sick animals. The stories are short and amusing and by reading it before bed it seems to help to limit the amount of weird dreams that I get. :> LOL
Reading right before I sleep, has the opposite effect on me.
Reading usually puts me to sleep, so the effect on me is either/or. XD
If you're having trouble with light keeping you awake, why not just buy an eye mask?
I use my old baby blanket, myself. ;] I fold it into a strip and just tuck it around my eyes. Keeps the light out pretty well.
Pretty much nothing helps "prepare" me for bed. My mind never stops thinking, so even if my body's dead tired I just have to lie down and wait until sleep finally overcomes my brain's constant activity. Which is probably why I've always slept so poorly.
I'm also odd in that I'm very seldom able to fall asleep sitting up. I pretty much have to be lying flat in order to fall asleep.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on June 25, 2004, 04:16:01 PMIf you're having trouble with light keeping you awake, why not just buy an eye mask?
But that would mean I'd have to lift that eye mask to see what hour it is I'm waking. What's also nice is to have complete silence in my room when I want to sleep. Once I'm asleep, I can even sleep through minor earthquakes, it's the getting asleep that's a problem in that category.
Quote from: Jeysie on June 25, 2004, 04:16:01 PMI use my old baby blanket, myself. ;] I fold it into a strip and just tuck it around my eyes. Keeps the light out pretty well.
Anything serving as an eye mask would have to be attached pretty well, because I tend to move around a lot during sleep.
Quote from: Jeysie on June 25, 2004, 04:16:01 PMPretty much nothing helps "prepare" me for bed. My mind never stops thinking, so even if my body's dead tired I just have to lie down and wait until sleep finally overcomes my brain's constant activity. Which is probably why I've always slept so poorly.
What works for me, is I start thinking about something that happened to me in the past (something I've watched, or heared or anything else), and usually, after a few minutes I'm asleep. Ofcourse, I don't realize when that thought process ended.
Quote from: Jeysie on June 25, 2004, 04:16:01 PMI'm also odd in that I'm very seldom able to fall asleep sitting up. I pretty much have to be lying flat in order to fall asleep.
When I'm
really tired, I can fall asleep sitting (not up, but sitting nonetheless). Can't sleep in a bus, in a car, or in an airplane, haven't tried sleeping on a boat yet but that's probably impossible as well. In short: when something's moving, I have to be able to watch outside, and when I'm going to sleep, I can't watch outside and thus lose coordination. Usually, I'd have to lie down too though. 8)
I almost always sleep on my stomach and sometimes my side. I can only doze on my back. This thread should now be called the "How do I sleep thread" LOL
;B ;D
Hee, I suppose it should. :)
I almost always sleep on my side, curled up to the blanket. (I really need to get a new body pillow one of these days... my old one fell apart after one too many washings.) I only spend a short amount of time on my back, usually in-between turning over.
I find it too uncomfortable to spend a lot of time on my stomach. The spheres of affection get in the way. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Another reason for not buying an eyemask is because it's something that I'd only use 10 days per year, at most, because at home I have very good blinds.
I fall asleep on my side or on my back, I wake up on my back, what happens inbetween I do not know. ::)
About pillows, I don't like hotel pillows either, they're too big. I like my pillow little(r), not too high.
Weeknights i go to bed at 12:00am ;), and wake up at 8:00am, which makes me late for school, lol :-\
On weekends i got to bed at 4:00am or 6:00am ;D, then i wake up at 12:00pm or 2:00pm, i even wake up at those times if i go to bed at midnight :-\
i cant stay up at that hour of the morning usually and im older than u lol.
wen i was younger i did hav stricter bed times but then as i got older they left it up to me to decide. if i got to bed late and have to be up early and feel poo wen i get up then its my own fault.
usually i only stay up if a) i have been out clubbing and im just so excited and hyper that i cant sleep, dunno why that happens coz im not a heavy drinker i think i just talk too much and then find no1 to talk to when i get in so my eyes just flit around my room ::) <--- like that but much faster (and no i dont take drugs either im just a hyper person)
and b) if something is on my mind...but every1 knows whats that like
i need my sleep, i like my sleep. when u sleep u can usually escape reality and go on some weird dream to a chocolate land in the sky...or not!
im quite lazy but no where near as bad as i used to be, i dont tend to lie in any more once im awake i usually just roll out of bed and crawl off somewhere.
in my old age i seem to be able to sleep in more places than i used to. i like the floor and always have done...dont know why, perhaps i was an animal in a past life, ifact that would explain alot.
anyway i have rambled too much and i hav work to do, so tra la la off i go...
Old age ??? --- just a joke, right --- you are only in your early twenties right? [no offense -- just trying to understand :>]
Actually Dew ;D, Kimmie is 18 :o, i dont understand why she is talking about old age and stuff :-\
Did that confuse you two Dew ???
:suffer: i never fail to confuse ppl.
well guys i am older arent i? if i compare my age now to when i was 6 and went to bed at 7pm...im now older!
(old age) ok so im not 50 but i still get older every year!
so i can use that phrase! its not a phrase that only grannys use! ;P
Kimmie's a whippersnapper. Now I, on the other hand, am in my early twenties. ;)
/me bops Kimmie with the her cane.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on June 27, 2004, 11:38:57 AMKimmie's a whippersnapper. Now I, on the other hand, am in my early twenties. ;)
/me bops Kimmie with the her cane.
If you've already got a cane, what 'appendage' am I to use? XB
one of those rolling walker things?? :P
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 27, 2004, 02:20:32 PMone of those rolling walker things?? :P
Do they have those in motorized versions too? ;D
I don't know...they may if you can walk that fast...but people your age just creep along when they walk! :P
:suffer:
urgh those motor things are damn annoying they just get in ur way. and some old fools think they are like cars and go ON THE ROAD WTF...get off the road!
that brings me on the subject of old drivers! the ones u see with the caps on goin 2 miles an hour, now they cause accidents!
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 27, 2004, 02:42:28 PM
I don't know...they may if you can walk that fast...but people your age just creep along when they walk! :P
LMAO! :suffer:
Hehe oh yeah, and have you seen the motor things on sidewalks. OMG it's like those old dudes are trying to kill you. It's not the Indy 500, slow down geezers! :P
There are only two things that I see on the road(on a regular basis), that bother me(while walking/biking/driving/flying/dancing). 18 wheelers and tractors.
Wow, I like to say that I am old too. I am in my twenties. However, I have the spirit of a seven year old and relate really well to 3rd to 5th graders. That is why I think I would be a great elementary school teacher.
Maybe, I would not be able to control the class really well and that is why I am hoping to get a job as an elementary school teacher's assistant in the fall. For those of you who believe in the power of prayer please pray for me because I need all the help I can get especially since the Davis Monthan incident of tapping the girl on the shoulder and being forced to quit. If I am unable to teach then I will grudgingly decide to work with computers because that is my secondary passion but I will certainly miss out on the opportunity to help make a difference in children's lives and they wonder why there are so few male elementary school teachers. I will tell you why there are so few. It is because of the system that makes it next to impossible for a male to be an elementary school teacher. I do not want to hurt children. I want to help them and contribute my uniqueness and my calling to make a small difference in American society. In my opinion, it is reverse sexual discriminatiion. <Rant Over and Now I will Relax> :'( :-\ >:( :( :S
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 27, 2004, 02:20:32 PM
one of those rolling walker things?? :P
30 year old people use Frames and 40 year olds use Gophers ;-D :suffer:, lol
BTW Dew i think its easier for male teachers in Australia cos there are alot of them ;D, but i only know about schools in SA so i may be wrong
Hmm. You know, now that I think about it, Dew may be right, at least in the sense that there aren't a lot of male elementary school teachers. I had a few "side-class" male teachers in gym and stuff like that, but I don't think I had a "main-class" male teacher until 5th grade. It was more or less evenly split male-female teachers in my 6th grade and up classrooms, though.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: dew7 on June 27, 2004, 11:08:20 PM
Wow, I like to say that I am old too. I am in my twenties. However, I have the spirit of a seven year old and relate really well to 3rd to 5th graders.
Heh, I'm like the complete opposite. I can't stand little kids, but mostly from Grade 1-3. And I usually relate really well to people older than me. ;P
sadly i have always been surrounded by ppl older than me, being the baby of the year born in summer meant ever1 was older, plus my best friend is 2 yrs older,
it meant i had to grow up fast...nah it didnt i made every1 else feel young too lol. tho i do like being around older ppl, coz im used to them. tho i like kids too, hence the idea to maybe become a primary teacher ...maybe i can relate to both coz i was a young person in an adult world...who knows...
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 27, 2004, 02:42:28 PMI don't know...they may if you can walk that fast...but people your age just creep along when they walk! :P
People
my age just creep along when we walk? :o
Quote from: Kimmie on June 27, 2004, 03:50:06 PMurgh those motor things are damn annoying they just get in ur way. and some old fools think they are like cars and go ON THE ROAD WTF...get off the road!
Don't worry, I'll get one that goes fast enough so I won't get in your way. ;D
Quote from: Kimmie on June 27, 2004, 03:50:06 PMthat brings me on the subject of old drivers! the ones u see with the caps on goin 2 miles an hour, now they cause accidents!
No they don't, it's the people that are too impatient to stay behind them that do. 8)
I already said before the ageoin my ID-card is neither my biological nor my psychological age, which are both younger. XD
Oh, c'mon, CC... everyone knows life ends at 30... you just ended up on better life support than most people. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
/me pats Jeysie on the back
Good one, Jeysie!
Thanks for the comments everyone. I plan on going up to Mt. Lemon today to relax since it is my day off. Be seeing you. :>
(Notice now that I am less tired -- I am in a better mood :> )
Quote from: Jeysie on June 29, 2004, 03:41:09 PMOh, c'mon, CC... everyone knows life ends at 30... you just ended up on better life support than most people. ;)
That's one of the advantages when you live in Belgium, Premium Life Support. ;P
*gasp* CC!! You're HOW OLD?!?!?!? You're practically a..a....GEEZER!!! ;P
I might know someone who can get you a good price on dentures. ;P
No, actually, I don't. I was just trying to be witty. ;D