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Title: Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Questing Character on July 19, 2004, 06:58:12 PM
But did *you* ever get beat up for liking someone??
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Post by: Say on July 19, 2004, 08:48:42 PM
har har I got you both beated up and Im older than both of you, If I were to share all my stories around here I would have to run away in shame and not to show up my fugly face ever ever again, eehhh... <3
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Post by: J-ROC on July 19, 2004, 08:56:10 PM
I'm older than all three of you.  stop your whining.  You still have years of self doubt to go before you get to my level!

I remember I was walking through a crowd with a female friend of mine.  We ended up getting tangled with these two girls.  My friend said, "Oh, he's with me."  The two girls responsed with, "You can keep him."

<3 I am a sexy beast.  (read: I'm uberfugly)
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 08:28:10 AM
Say: You're engaged, therefore you are now disqualified from the "So-Fugly-No-One-Wants-Me" category. <3

Anyhoo. OK. I'm 24... which is ~3 years older than Koko and Say, ~7 years older than Questie, and ~2 years younger than J-R. However, I have only dated one guy for exactly a month, 7 years ago, and he dumped me to go back out with his ex-girlfriend. So unless J-R has had less relationship experience than that, I beat you all in the "So-Fugly-No-One-Wants-Me" category!

(throws down some random gauntlet)

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: koko_99_2001 on July 20, 2004, 08:45:24 AM
*picks up gauntlet*
*hands it back to Jeysie*

I doubt James has you beat...but I still say, I'm 21 and haven't dated ANYONE...

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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 09:54:38 AM
Yeah, but I think three more years is significant... plus my ex-boyfriend only dated me 'cause he was lonely and I was nice to him... he probably wasn't really attracted to me. :P

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 11:27:03 AM
This is getting more personal than I choose to express.  So, without detail, I can say that I truthfully have you beat, Liz.

I live a sad and pathetic life of "just friends".
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Post by: Say on July 20, 2004, 01:32:21 PM
I'm 22 now

besides, I do love Michael but he's blind :P
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 03:40:08 PM
Quote from: Say on July 20, 2004, 01:32:21 PMI'm 22 now

besides, I do love Michael but he's blind :P

Sorry... I couldn't remember off-hand if you had turned 21 or 22. (sheepish look)

And... you have many other fellows who are also enamored of you to some degree or another... surely they can't all be blind? ;)

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: B'rrr on July 20, 2004, 04:16:38 PM
wheeeee!! joins the group!!  ;-D

I'm almost 23, i have dated but when i look back at it, I wish i hadn't cuz it had brought me nothing but tears and sorrow :-\ ...I might try it again in the far future ...or not ;-D
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 05:34:53 PM
Ah, the sorrow.  Been there, done that, wrote a the book, produced the t-shirts.  I'm the point where I need to try again.  The prospects just aren't presenting themselves very well. :)

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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 05:38:58 PM
Have you, J-R? I thought you've never been anything but "just friends". ;-D

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 05:41:34 PM
I was.

I was madly in love with her for four years.

She only saw me as a friend.

Draw your own conclusions as to how that affected me. :P
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 05:45:54 PM
That doesn't count as dating, though. Suffering unrequited love is different than suffering through a sucky relationship. I suppose the question is which one B'rrr meant. (I had assumed the latter.)

There was a fellow I had a major crush on for 3 years when I was in middle school... and a fellow I've been in love with for 7 years... :P

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 05:51:54 PM
It's more complicated that "just" unrequited love.  Yet again, I'm unwilling to go into details about it.

Simply put, I was her little effin' daisy.  "I love you, I love you not, I love you, I love you not..."  >:(
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Post by: Yonkey on July 20, 2004, 05:54:24 PM
I pictured unrequited love to be:

You: I love you, I love you, I love you...  :lovegoggles:
Other: I love you not.

:-\
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 05:58:07 PM
That's why it's a little more complicated than unrequited love.  There's lies, other people, etc that make it all kind of messed up.
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 06:02:28 PM
Yonkey: Only if the person you love is "nice".

If they're a manipulative jerk, for instance, it could very well be...

You: I love you.
Other: (lies) I love you, do nice things for me.
You: OK. (does nice things)
Other: No, wait, I don't love you, sorry.
You: If I do (nice things here) will you love me again?
Other: (lies) Sure!

(continue in circles until insanity ensues)

Or, if you're dating my ex-boyfriend:

You: I love you.
Other: My girlfriend just dumped me, and I'm lonely, so I love you now.
Girlfriend: Yoo-hoo, Other, I love you again!
Other: I love her.
You: Fine, I want to you be happy.
(time passes)
Girlfriend: Other, I don't love you anymore.
Other: I'm lonely again, can I love You?
You: No.

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 06:05:22 PM
Somewhat similar to scenario 2.

Over four years.

Yeah, I'm a slow learner.
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Post by: koko_99_2001 on July 20, 2004, 07:10:01 PM
I'm thinking we need some kind of "Sad Love" thread...but I'm sure you guys can come up with a better name than that!

Cat
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 07:13:44 PM
How about "Romantic War Stories"? ;P

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: J-ROC on July 20, 2004, 07:18:02 PM
Or "Love and Hate and why it should never involve a banana cream pie..."
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Post by: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 07:20:49 PM
I'm suddenly torn between wanting to know what a banana creme pie would have to do with love and hate, and *not* wanting to know. (Whipped cream and/or chocolate I could understand... but a banana creme pie?)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Yonkey on July 20, 2004, 09:46:50 PM
I'm not too keen on banana cream pies, but the this now has its own thread.  8)
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Post by: J-ROC on July 21, 2004, 01:26:39 AM
Quote from: Jeysie on July 20, 2004, 07:20:49 PM
I'm suddenly torn between wanting to know what a banana creme pie would have to do with love and hate, and *not* wanting to know. (Whipped cream and/or chocolate I could understand... but a banana creme pie?)
Nothing, that's why it should never be involved.  It would only complicate things.
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Johnmichael on July 21, 2004, 03:06:48 AM
Ive had two major heart breaks in my life, I had a GF of two years and we were engaged but she broke up with me a day before my birthday last year, said we were two young to be settled down, other one my first gf i ever had, she was pretty much first everything. The only reason me and her even broke up was because she was a senior when i was a feshman and when she graduated she moved away so we ended it, around christmas of last year she was killed in a car wreck and thats when it really hit me how in love with her i actually was.
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Say on July 21, 2004, 05:25:26 AM
:( I remember that, you were depressed for weeks :(
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Johnmichael on July 21, 2004, 07:21:57 AM
That was a really depressing period of my life, im over my two year gf, but it still hurts to think about Nicole but im glad that i had someone in my life that meant that much to me, however short are time together was.
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Say on July 21, 2004, 07:36:46 AM
I'm glad it's all better now, you are really sweet and really mature already, a very special guy indeed <3 you certainly diserve better and I know you will get so :)

Good news are that... OMG in like... 4 more days you will be 1 year older! :D omgomgomgomg <3 :) <3
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Jeysie on July 21, 2004, 09:10:14 AM
Ugh, that really sucks. :( I'm semi-lucky in that I've lost people close to me, but never anyone I was romantically involved with. :-\

As for unrequited love... :P Heck, I've found a guy who's handsome, sweet, talented, has a personality that matches mine the best so far out of everyone I've been friends with, let alone had feelings for, and hasn't killed me yet... too bad he doesn't want a romantic relationship with anyone. So much for the idea of finding your soulmate!

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: J-ROC on July 21, 2004, 12:05:10 PM
I never said I didn't want a romatic relationship with anyone...just not long distance.  ;B
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Kimmie on July 21, 2004, 12:14:13 PM
QuoteI was madly in love with her for four years.

mine was for 2 yrs, but it hit me the other week, just out of the blue, that i DO NOT NEED HIM  ;D there i said it. he caused me pain, but also hav some nice things to think about. all i gotta concentrate on now is finding sum1 who will return the love i give out  :suffer:

john... <3u...Say is right, ur such a special guy, i know that already by only speaking to u for a few weeks  :-* *mwah*[/glow]
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Jeysie on July 21, 2004, 01:16:37 PM
J-R: Very funny! ;P :suffer:

Peace & Luv, Liz
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Post by: Storm on July 21, 2004, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 20, 2004, 08:45:24 AM...I still say, I'm 21 and haven't dated ANYONE...

Hey, I didn't date anyone before I turned 21. Things only got a helluva lot worse when I did :o
That's why I don't date anymore. Well, that and the whole not being able to stand other people thing :P
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Johnmichael on July 21, 2004, 06:17:54 PM
You have to go through alot of crap to actually find the one you want, you shouldnt just give up though no matter what happens, I honestly believe there is someone for everyone, just got to go through alot of jerks to find them.
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Post by: Jael on July 22, 2004, 11:33:23 PM
Quote from: Storm on July 21, 2004, 01:49:53 PM
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on July 20, 2004, 08:45:24 AM...I still say, I'm 21 and haven't dated ANYONE...

Well, that and the whole not being able to stand other people thing :P

Haha! Story of my life too. Most people I know are just so unbearable there's no way I'd consider being in any kind of exclusive relationship with them ;)

I've had a few crushes, but they've never crossed into "unrequited love" territory. However, it also sucks to be on the receiving end of unrequited love. I've had one "Nice Guy" (http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/ng.shtml) (NOTE: you'll have to change the URL. Stupid censorbot :P) who'd been convinced I was the answer to all his problems. I had no idea how to make it very clear I wasn't interested. It was just really uncomfortable and messy. Fortunately, it was just before both of us graduated and went to different unis.

Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Jeysie on July 23, 2004, 10:47:32 AM
/me idly wonders if her problem is that she's a "Nice Girl".

Problem is, I genuinely *like* helping people out and doting on other people, and I genuinely *don't* like people doting on me. I guess that could come off as "doormat". :P

At any rate, men seem to date the jerk women most of the time, too. :P I had a lot of male friends who would confide in me, then go drool after some pretty, popular chick who treated them like dirt. Granted, I wasn't attracted to most of my male friends, so I likely wouldn't have dated them even if they had been interested. But it always bugged me to see them going off and trying to date jerk girls instead of trying to date nice ones. :P

In the same vein, I have had many guys who either had girlfriends/wives or who loved some girl, and when their significant other was angry with them, or the girl they loved didn't want them, they'd come and flirt with me and seek attention from me. Of course, when their SO stopped being mad at them, or the girl they really liked decided she liked them back, they'd drop me like a bad habit. Fortunately I learned enough from dealing with my ex-boyfriend not to be drawn into this behavior too deeply again, but, I mean... WTF? What am I, some kind of weird security blanket? :P

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Storm on July 23, 2004, 02:34:28 PM
I've never had an unrequited love. The secret for avoiding it is simple:

1. Be around/talk to as little people as possible, especially people you might develop a romantic interest in;

2. If you're starting to like someone, or notice that someone is showing interest in you, avoid that person at all cost, be extremely obnoxious to them if you absolutly have to be around them, and stop thinking about them (meditation exercises help there).
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Questing Character on July 23, 2004, 02:42:13 PM
Good strategy Storm.  Except for being one of those grouchy, lonely 87 year olds later in life. :(
Also, denying your hormones which (particularly at my age) are raging out of control, probably has negative consequences.
I think the solution *really* is to become rich and famous. :D
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Jeysie on July 23, 2004, 02:45:16 PM
I guess it's just because we're wired differently, but a life spent avoiding interacting with anyone seems kind of lonely and pointless to me. :P

(Granted, I tend to be somewhat reclusive myself, but it's out of an inability to interact with people without coming off as a moron, rather than a *desire* not to interact with anyone. I'd give anything to be naturally outgoing!)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Storm on July 23, 2004, 02:48:27 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on July 23, 2004, 02:42:13 PM
Good strategy Storm.  Except for being one of those grouchy, lonely 87 year olds later in life. :(

Hey, there are many happily married people who STILL turn into grouchy, lonely 87 year olds later in life. With my strategy, you'll be a lonely grouch even before you turn 30 :P
Title: Re:Love/Hate Relationships
Post by: Questing Character on July 23, 2004, 08:36:40 PM
That's almost a good strategy, Storm. >worships Storm< But, aren't married people generally not lonely?  Like, by definition? ::)
>worships Storm again<