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Title: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Mad Man on July 24, 2004, 03:08:43 PM
A fire braething tea pot is a good start.

;D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Yonkey on July 24, 2004, 07:25:39 PM
That's an animal? ???  :o

XD
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on July 28, 2004, 08:15:18 PM
Jackalopes!! ;D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Louisiana Night on July 28, 2004, 08:27:25 PM
Unicorns, and I'm serious. All it would take, is for a type of horse to become extinct.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on July 28, 2004, 08:30:47 PM
YAY for posting exactly what we posted before (or similar :P)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on July 29, 2004, 05:46:20 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on July 28, 2004, 08:30:47 PMYAY for posting exactly what we posted before (or similar :P)
I can't post exactly what I posted before, not even 'similar'. :-\

/me wonders if he posted anything in this thread before. Oh well. :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Grundy on July 30, 2004, 06:14:59 AM
Tasmanian Devils!
;D

Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Grundy on July 30, 2004, 06:19:03 AM
Here's a cartoon Tassie Devil!
(http://grundy.site.net.au/devil01.jpg)

And a real one!   GRRRRR!!!
(http://grundy.site.net.au/devil02.jpg)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: koko_99_2001 on July 30, 2004, 06:33:46 AM
It's TAZ!! :D

Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on July 30, 2004, 07:58:15 AM
One Tasmanian Devil spins around really fast and the other yawns really big....can YOU guess which is which? :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Kimmie on July 30, 2004, 08:04:20 AM
this kinda links in with my unexplained thread...dya reckon that like yetti's are real? coz some areas of the world hav dense forests or deep oceans etc that havnt been explored, so we probably havnt found every living thing yet!

i wish unicorns were real! i like unicorns.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on July 30, 2004, 05:35:01 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on July 30, 2004, 07:58:15 AMOne Tasmanian Devil spins around really fast and the other yawns really big....can YOU guess which is which? :P
But do you know for sure they can't both be really fast spinners and really big yawners? XB
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on July 30, 2004, 08:19:30 PM
CC, that's for YOU to decide.  I just ask the questions and pretend I know the answers around here.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on August 01, 2004, 03:03:26 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on July 30, 2004, 08:19:30 PMI just ask the questions and pretend I know the answers around here.
Yes, well, I don't need to pretend anything. I know I'm not good at biology, however at psychology... 8)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on August 01, 2004, 03:40:30 PM
You either mean you're really good at psychology...or worse at it than biology.  I think it depends on whether I'm in a mean mood or not. :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on August 01, 2004, 04:32:32 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on August 01, 2004, 03:40:30 PMor worse at it than biology.
Worse than biology? Impossible! XB
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Questing Character on August 01, 2004, 05:02:21 PM
Maybe you're just not working at being terrible at something hard enough. :P I'm SURE you could be worse at something than biology!
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on August 01, 2004, 05:11:21 PM
Quote from: Questing Character on August 01, 2004, 05:02:21 PMMaybe you're just not working at being terrible at something hard enough. :P I'm SURE you could be worse at something than biology!
I'm pretty sure I'm worse at things I know absolutely nothing about, but from things I do know something about.... I don't think so. :X
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Mad Man on November 17, 2004, 06:55:44 PM
one page of posts!!??

post more!

I haven't been on in a while, so I know you had time!!

If you don't start posting, I'll get rid of the thread!

I created it, and I can destroy it!

I have a friend that's good at making viruses!

*BOOM!*

:!Oops:

Wrong friend.

That friend was good at making missiles.

I HOPE NOBODY GOT HURT!

AND IF THIS POST IS STILL HERE, POST MOREEEEEEEE!! !! !! !! !! !! !! :sneaky:
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: uselessidguy331 on November 17, 2004, 06:57:34 PM
The Megamouth Shark...
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Mad Man on November 17, 2004, 07:06:36 PM
Quote from: Yonkey on July 24, 2004, 07:25:39 PM
That's an animal? ???  :o

XD

I SAID IT WAS BREATHING, DIDN'T I!! !! !!?? ?? ??
What breathes is alive, and it's not human, so it must be an animal.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on November 17, 2004, 08:59:54 PM
I upgrade mould from fungus to animal :D :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on November 18, 2004, 06:47:06 AM
Fire-breathing butterfly XB

EDIT: Even better..............Fire-breathing Penguins     XD
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on November 21, 2004, 02:04:39 PM
Quote from: Mad Man on November 17, 2004, 07:06:36 PMWhat breathes is alive, and it's not human, so it must be an animal.
A tree doesn't breathe by your definition ??? :scholar:
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: B'rrr on November 22, 2004, 02:49:49 PM
...the opposite  :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: uselessidguy331 on November 22, 2004, 04:14:02 PM
THE LOCH f***ing NESS MONSTER!  ;D

Also, I think people said that the Mountain Gorilla didn't exist around 1900, and it was...well, found to exist, thus bringing perhaps the greatest action/science fiction cinematic experience of all-time to the screen in 1933: King Kong. Seriously, it might just be the greatest.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on November 28, 2004, 09:18:05 AM
Tasmanian Tigers :D, but I think people say that they are real :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Louisiana Night on November 28, 2004, 09:20:59 AM
Aren't they supposed to be extinct(unless they're hiding somewhere :P )? ???
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on November 28, 2004, 09:24:55 AM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on November 28, 2004, 09:20:59 AM
Aren't they supposed to be extinct(unless they're hiding somewhere :P )? ???
Yeah they are extinct, they are cloning them though XD
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on November 28, 2004, 03:36:19 PM
Quote from: racx_00 on November 28, 2004, 09:24:55 AMYeah they are extinct, they are cloning them though XD
I believe at one time sonemeone made a film about cloning extinct reptiles (dinsaurs). ::)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on November 29, 2004, 07:47:21 PM
Quote from: racx_00 on November 28, 2004, 09:18:05 AM
Tasmanian Tigers :D, but I think people say that they are real :P

I got bored and done some homework. The last official sighting was 1936. Several sightings have been reported since then but no real evidence. So their classified as extinct  :P

read on.... http://www.dpiwe.tas.gov.au/inter.nsf/WebPages/BHAN-53777B?open

Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on November 30, 2004, 09:43:02 AM
They believe the clone is almost ready :D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on November 30, 2004, 10:35:52 AM
I read a story about some villagers who captured a Yeti that was quite sex-starved and almost human... apparently many villagers gave in to temptation and the Yeti had some kids that were humanoid, very resistant to cold, and very strong.  :o
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on November 30, 2004, 10:36:53 AM
Quote from: racx on November 30, 2004, 09:43:02 AMThey believe the clone is almost ready :D
I've read they've already successfully cloned a cat, so a Tasmanian Tiger, being feline as well, can't differ that much. 8)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on November 30, 2004, 10:06:30 PM
They have also done a Cow, and a sheep.  :P

Edit: They have four legs too  ;)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Louisiana Night on November 30, 2004, 10:38:40 PM
They must have kept part of the Tasmanian Tiger, if they're going to clone it. :-\

I'm guessing it would simply be blood, but does anyone here know otherwise(as in, did they decide to keep the corpse, since the species was dying out)? ???

ugh...

I guess it doesn't matter(and I probably don't want to know). ;P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on November 30, 2004, 10:48:37 PM
Sometimes blood gets caught in tree sap (i think). That's how they can clone dinosaurs  :P. Not sure if a Tassie tigers rubs itself up on a tree that often though XB
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Louisiana Night on November 30, 2004, 11:00:27 PM
It was a mosquito that they got the blood from. Sap from a tree hardened around the mosquito(that's why it didn't decay, and most of the DNA was preserved).

Besides, in the movie, they had to replace part of the dinosaur DNA(with frog DNA, which is what kept them from dying out). ;P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 01, 2004, 02:16:38 PM
Quote from: GravityMX on November 30, 2004, 10:06:30 PMThey have also done a Cow, and a sheep.  :P
That's why I added successfully, AFAIK Dolly was still suffering from ailments due to old age, even though she actually wasn't that old yet (technically, but the cloned DNA/cell was). 8)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: uselessidguy331 on December 01, 2004, 09:26:58 PM
This comes from another forum I posted on, but you can all answer to it as well:

What are your thoughts on cryptozoology. Is it possible that any of it is true? Could the Loch Ness Monster, in reality, exist? Bigfoot? Ogopogo? The Yeti? There have been many, many sightings of these "strange" animals, and some of them could possibly hold some truth. After all, there HAVE been many discoveries of animals people said didn't exist, including the Mega-Mouth shark, the Mountain Gorilla, the Tasmanian Devil, and of course, the Ceocoleth (sp), a prehistoric fish older than dinosaurs that was discovered to still be alive in the 1940's. It's entirely possible that these "mysterious" creatures could exist. The most famous of these, of course, is The Loch Ness Monster, or Nessie. Although most sightings are cast aside as bullshit, and many hoaxes have happened, there ARE some very unexplainable sightings, pictures, and videos that have been shot. An explaination for the rarity of sightings: the murkyness and depth of the gigantic Loch. Below 10-20 feet, visibility is limited to around 3-6 inches, and the lake is around 1,500 feet deep. Even the famous "Surgeon photo" from 1934 could be true. The man who said he was the nephew of Wilson, who took the photo, and said that Wilson faked it also told close friends that he came out with the story to break into the news, become famous. People have tried to recreate the photo from the exact spot with the size of model that was supposedly used and have failed miserably. Although it's probably unlikely that Nessie is a prehistoric plesiosaur, it's possible that there is something in there, like a giant sturgeon, undiscovered species. There has to be SOME truth to some of the thousands of sightings. The legend of the yeti, bigfoot, the sasquatch, etc. isn't tremendously farfetched. Bears exist in North America, why couldn't a reclusive ape? The Yeti is probably the most probably of all, though. It's definately possible that an ape could exist high in the Himalayas, unspotted due to it's remote location.
I'm not convinced that any of this is true, but I'm also not convinced any of it doesn't exist. What are your opinions of this, and back them up.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on December 01, 2004, 09:34:05 PM
Quote from: uselessidguy331 on December 01, 2004, 09:26:58 PM
Could the Loch Ness Monster, in reality, exist?
Lets find out over  webcam  (http://www.lochness.co.uk/livecam)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Louisiana Night on December 01, 2004, 09:41:55 PM
Odds are in favor of SOMETHING either living in Loch Ness, or having lived in Loch Ness(as in, a large sea creature).

Could just be a large fish though. ;P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on December 01, 2004, 09:42:55 PM
Coelacanth is the fish they thought to be extinct.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: GravityMX on December 01, 2004, 09:44:22 PM
Was it large by any chance? ;)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on December 01, 2004, 09:52:38 PM
Quote from: Louisiana Night on December 01, 2004, 09:41:55 PM
Odds are in favor of SOMETHING either living in Loch Ness, or having lived in Loch Ness(as in, a large sea creature).

Could just be a large fish though. ;P

Underwater elephants? ;)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 02, 2004, 02:22:20 PM
Quote from: Oldbushie on December 01, 2004, 09:52:38 PMUnderwater elephants? ;)
With gills? ;D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: uselessidguy331 on December 03, 2004, 04:11:48 PM
www.cryptozoology.com

Look at some of the stuff in the gallery. It's pretty amazing. Also, go to google.com and search images "Loch Ness Monster." You'll get some interesting results.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on December 04, 2004, 08:41:32 AM
Loch Ness could just be a dinosaur that survived :-\, there was a male and a female that survived and they had a few babies :-\, anything possible
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 05, 2004, 08:02:32 AM
My personal take on the Loch Ness Monster as that it's kept by extra-terrestrials in their spaceship and is let out occasionally (like dogs) in Loch Ness because that place resembles its natural habitat most. I could be wrong though.  :D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on December 05, 2004, 04:59:31 PM
Yeah, and everytime the UFO leaves its hiding spot in the Bermuda Triangle it causes the sea and sky to mix together so no one sees it as it heads to Loch Ness to let out the pet. XB
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 07, 2004, 02:11:28 PM
Quote from: Oldbushie on December 05, 2004, 04:59:31 PMYeah, and everytime the UFO leaves its hiding spot in the Bermuda Triangle it causes the sea and sky to mix together so no one sees it as it heads to Loch Ness to let out the pet. XB
Oh, so that's where all that stuff disappeared to, Nessie ate it! :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on December 08, 2004, 08:49:14 AM
Yeah the Bermuda Triangle is kinda mysterious
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Jafar on December 08, 2004, 08:51:36 AM
I don't believe in the Loch Ness.
The Loch Mess, on the other hand... :D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on December 08, 2004, 12:49:52 PM
The Loch Ness itself undoubtedly exists, but as to its inhabitants.... ;)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 08, 2004, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: Oldbushie on December 08, 2004, 12:49:52 PMThe Loch Ness itself undoubtedly exists, but as to its inhabitants.... ;)
There's more than one Nessie? :o
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on December 11, 2004, 10:51:33 PM
Of course! Unless the monster reproduces asexually... ::)
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 12, 2004, 02:48:19 PM
Quote from: Oldbushie on December 11, 2004, 10:51:33 PMOf course! Unless the monster reproduces asexually... ::)
You calling Nessie a monster? :o >:(
:P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Jafar on December 12, 2004, 08:44:00 PM
Thats it's title. The Loch Ness Monster.
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on December 15, 2004, 02:14:54 PM
Quote from: Jafar on December 12, 2004, 08:44:00 PMThats it's title. The Loch Ness Monster.
I prefer to call her Nessie. And yes, I know I called her a monster in my first post in/of this thread. ;D
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Mad Man on January 20, 2005, 02:24:32 PM
UFO'S? you know that nessie can fly!
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Kimmie on January 21, 2005, 05:04:45 PM
Nessie might just be a really big fish of some sort that hasnt actually been found yet. they cant get deep enough in the loch and its so dark that u cant see. think about the depth of the ocean and how tales of giant squid attacked boats...we know from evidence just how giant some squid can get

whether its this http://theshadowlands.net/squid4.jpg

or this http://alpha.fdu.edu/~boyer/GiantSquid.jpeg

new species are always being found in the part of the world that havnt been explored properly yet...the oceans a VERY big pond  :P
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Oldbushie on January 23, 2005, 09:09:10 PM
There are some squids that are 30 feet long or more!  :o I wonder if there's a limit to how much they grow...
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: copycat on March 16, 2005, 02:36:03 PM
Quote from: Mad Man on January 20, 2005, 02:24:32 PMUFO'S? you know that nessie can fly!
Ofcourse she can, but surely if she does that even more people weill see her flying by. The UFO has, ofcourse, a cloaking device, so it cannot be located by (the) Earth's detection systems. 8)
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: awesomeasapossum on January 03, 2006, 05:28:02 PM
Nessie!
Dragons!
Mermaids!
Tasmanian Tigers!
King Kong!
Platypus!
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 03, 2006, 06:56:11 PM
a liger!!  (napolean dynamite)
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: awesomeasapossum on January 05, 2006, 04:30:13 PM
You can see pictures of them if you look them up on Google. (They actually look real)
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Gilgamesh on January 05, 2006, 04:34:32 PM
Here in the Netherlands we have a place where buildings have been made verry small. (models of real buildings)
Placing here a monkey would look like kingkong is invading
(if you were that small)

And have you ever thought about the unicorn?
Title: Re:animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Yonkey on January 06, 2006, 11:31:21 AM
Yup, back on page one, LN did:

Quote from: Louisiana Night on July 28, 2004, 08:27:25 PM
Unicorns, and I'm serious. All it would take, is for a type of horse to become extinct.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Deloria on January 06, 2006, 12:13:16 PM
Don't forget to add:
Dragonets
Dangeling Participles
Miniatours...
To the list. I think it's cruel how some people don't think of dragonets anymore  ::) :P :'( :-[
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 06, 2006, 06:54:23 PM
is merpeople on the list?
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: awesomeasapossum on January 06, 2006, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Deloria on January 06, 2006, 12:13:16 PM
Don't forget to add:
Dragonets

Dragnets? Oh...yeah...okay...with an 'O'  :pokerface:
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 06, 2006, 07:08:35 PM
what about giant spiders?
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Jafar on January 06, 2006, 10:44:35 PM
Giant Spiders DO exist! I saw one that was as big as a ZIP disk! :o
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 06, 2006, 11:41:19 PM
correction-spiders as big as houses
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Moodyblues on January 06, 2006, 11:58:27 PM
Giant squids!   ;D  They're not nearly as big as their legendary counterparts, but they're real.

Oh, and merpeople are definately real, or at least as long as Jodi Benson is around.  :)
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 07, 2006, 12:02:07 AM
are phoenixes real?
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Moodyblues on January 07, 2006, 12:05:19 AM
I read somewhere that they may be based on a real bird living in the Middle East.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Pacman928 on January 07, 2006, 12:09:47 AM
cool!
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Deloria on January 07, 2006, 07:34:46 AM
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on January 06, 2006, 06:57:10 PM
Quote from: Deloria on January 06, 2006, 12:13:16 PM
Don't forget to add:
Dragonets

Dragnets? Oh...yeah...okay...with an 'O'  :pokerface:

No Dragonets,  from KQ7.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Gilgamesh on January 07, 2006, 10:10:04 AM
Let's add phoenix to the list
Haven't seen it in this thread

A bird that reborns from the ashes.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Deloria on January 08, 2006, 01:21:30 PM
Haven't seen it in real life.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on January 13, 2006, 09:51:10 AM
Quote from: Pacman928 on January 06, 2006, 11:41:19 PM
correction-spiders as big as houses
I've seen a dinner plate sized spider XD
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Zelly on January 15, 2006, 04:13:58 AM
Ive seen roller-skate sized roaches running (and flying) around in Texas.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Deloria on January 15, 2006, 04:15:53 AM
I hate roaches.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Zelly on January 15, 2006, 04:18:24 AM
me too
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Deloria on January 15, 2006, 04:45:45 AM
I also hate spiders.
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Zelly on January 15, 2006, 04:48:30 AM
My dad saw a spider once that was visable a half-mile down the road. :help:
I think I would have screamed like a little girl...
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Gilgamesh on January 15, 2006, 04:48:42 AM
* nuclear modifeid a roach *
Look it still lives and it's growing and growing and now it's as bigg as I am.
* does the same whit a spider *
Darn the spider escaped

A well I only need the roach anyway. ::)
Come my roach let us conquer the world. :P
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: racx_00 on January 19, 2006, 08:53:52 AM
Quote from: Zelly on January 15, 2006, 04:13:58 AM
Ive seen roller-skate sized roaches running (and flying) around in Texas.
o_O

Thankfully we don't get them that big XD
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Storm on January 25, 2006, 10:24:02 AM
Quote from: Pacman928 on January 07, 2006, 12:02:07 AM
are phoenixes real?
Quote from: Moodyblues on January 07, 2006, 12:05:19 AM
I read somewhere that they may be based on a real bird living in the Middle East.

Sure, we have those! they kinda look like chickens. Occasionally they burst into flames, but the part about rising from the ashes is a myth - instead, we eat them in a pita with some hummus ;P
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Yonkey on January 25, 2006, 10:38:00 AM
lol, a phoenix falafel? XB
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Storm on January 26, 2006, 06:44:30 PM
A phoenix Shwarma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shwarma), actually ;)
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Dirk Delshire on February 11, 2006, 08:49:11 PM
Has anybody said Giant Squid yet? Here's some pics of it.  ;D
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050926/squid.html

And BTW bigfoot fans they resently discovered that bigfoot is
in fact a north american Giant Ape...
Title: Re: animals that People said waer not real
Post by: Moodyblues on February 11, 2006, 09:05:35 PM
I think I mentioned the giant squid, but I didn't have any links.

Thanks, Mr. Delshire; the pictures are wonderful!  ;D