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Title: Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on August 28, 2004, 10:13:05 PM
Hey guys!
Im looking for a good computer game (olde or new) to get hooked on and play. Any suggestions?? Anything Strategy, RPG, Adventure, or tactical FPS (not arcade shootemups,) would be awesome.

BTW: I have a Dell Laptop, Pentium 4, XP, good video card, and an inflexible soundcard.

Thanks!  8)

Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 28, 2004, 10:26:12 PM
Since I assume you already know about the big-name games, I'll name some lesser known ones.

Savage(mixture of RTS, MMORPG, and FPS)

Dragon's Lair DVD Edition-the set(1/2 and Space Ace, it's almost like playing a cartoon/movie)

Deus Ex(Immersive Simulation, one of the best storys of any game ever made)

Robin Hood/Longbow(adventure, good luck finding a copy)

and last but not least...

Kings Quest 9(so new, it hasn't been released yet)
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on August 28, 2004, 10:28:14 PM
It all sounds interesting... What the heck is Dragon's Lair like? (who makes it, etc.)

Also, that KQ9 game looks cool... Do they have an official home page I can look around?  :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 28, 2004, 10:36:18 PM
Dragon's Lair is one of the best selling games of all time(I think it's the best selling of all time). It started out at the arcades, when game graphics were far  worse than the smilieys on this forum. Dragon's Lair had graphics almost as good as a cartoon-movie. It cost 50cents to play, and was EXTREMELY hard. It would have probably cost me a few hundred $ to finish at the arcades. With the graphics, nobody cared.


There are a few in the series.

Dragon's Lair
Dragon's Lair 2:Time Warp
Dragon's Lair 3D

and many others, that are hard to find(except the GB one).


Dragon's Lair Project (http://www.dragons-lair-project.com/)

Dragon's Lair 3D (http://www.dragonslair3d.com/)

P.S. If you meant, that you wanted to know where you can get a copy, I'll name where I've found them.
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Jeysie on August 28, 2004, 10:45:30 PM
Some of my favorites (dunno if you've already played any of them or not, so forgive me if you have):

RPG:

Planescape: Torment (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,3/gameId,648/):

Awesome, awesome game. It's a bit on the talky side... expect to spend more time trying to solve quests and philosophical conundrums than you do kicking bad guy butt (although there's an enjoyable amount of that). Worth it for the rich worlds, unique characters, and intriguing concepts put forth.

Fallout 1 & 2 (http://www.mobygames.com/game_group/sheet/gameGroupId,557/):

Just pure fun. Wonderfully semi-kitchsy take on the Post-Apocalyptic SF "genre". Creative battle system, great death animations, and, running through the dark humor, some interesting characters and concepts.

Adventures:

Sanitarium (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,3/gameId,572/):

Fun with psychological horror. Puzzle-wise it's a fairly easy game, mostly because they're refreshingly logical for an adventure game. The story, though, is great... lots of allegory and mystery-solving. You're never quite sure what's real and what isn't until the end.

The Space Bar (http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,3/gameId,2909/):

A neat game for anyone who likes Space Quest-type stories. Has the same sort of bizarre, cynical humor, only way more demented. Also interesting in that it's essentially several mini-stories in one, with each story having you playing from a different world and set of "rules".

Misc:

Star Control 2 (http://sc2.sourceforge.net/):

The perfect mix of action, puzzle-solving, strategy, seriousness, and bizarre humor. Great backstory and universe, and a cast of fun, interesting aliens and characters. Not to mention having the best soundtrack ever. Plus... it's freeware now. Can't go wrong with that.

There are other games I find excellent, but I'm trying to give some love to ones I feel are undeservedly obscure. Not to mention that Sanitarium, Fallout, and Planescape are all available in budget versions. (I know Sanitarium's still in stores... the other two might be as well, you'd have to poke around.) Sadly, Space Bar is a lot trickier to get one's hands on. :P

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 28, 2004, 10:50:28 PM
I forgot to mention, there's a free demo on Savage's site.

Savage (http://www.s2games.com/savage/)

Also, Deus Ex 2 isn't anywhere near as good as the first.


P.S. If you use Linux, I'll name several good freeware games.


Star Control !!!
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on August 29, 2004, 02:00:56 AM
-Dragon's Lair looks awesome... So, where can I find a copy?   :D

-Star Control im definitely going to take a look at. Freeware is just to hard to resist. (Plus its been awarded a 'home of the underdog' award from the underdog shareware website)

-Ok... Deus Ex... Ive seen it in stores. Ive picked it up and looked at it. And Ive put it down everytime. Ill have to take it a tad more seriously

-Ill probably try to find a copy of Space Bar. Looks like its right up my alley.  8)
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Grundy on August 29, 2004, 02:42:31 AM
Stronghold!

Great game if you like making castles and lots of little archers to shoot rabbits with.

;D
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 29, 2004, 12:28:55 PM
Quote from: FataliOmega on August 29, 2004, 02:00:56 AM
-Dragon's Lair looks awesome... So, where can I find a copy?   :D

-Star Control im definitely going to take a look at. Freeware is just to hard to resist. (Plus its been awarded a 'home of the underdog' award from the underdog shareware website)

-Ok... Deus Ex... Ive seen it in stores. Ive picked it up and looked at it. And Ive put it down everytime. Ill have to take it a tad more seriously

-Ill probably try to find a copy of Space Bar. Looks like its right up my alley.  8)

Dragon's Lair:
I assume you mean in a store, not online. Dragon's Lair(the DVD set), can be found at Frys(if you have one where you live), most movie stores(it's often considered a DVD movie), and sometimes Wal-Mart(I don't think they're selling it anymore). Dragon's Lair 3D is easier to find. You can probably find it at any game store.

P.S. Dragon's Lair(DVD set), works on most DVD players, DVD consoles, and PCs with DVD-ROM drives. Although, you might want to look at their incompatibility list.

Star Control:

First=never played
Second=played very little
Third=played demo for a LONG time
Fourth=canceled :(
HUNAMS !!!

Deus Ex:
The Game of the Year Edition, has multiplayer support(patch is available for older copies of the game). It mixes RPG, FPS, Adventure, and many other genres into one. Something that impressed me when i first played it, is that it let me choose my name(though you'll never hear it in the game, you'll get e-mails under it). You'll have the code name JC Denton . The game takes place in the near-future. You start out working for the UN, and eventually uncover a conspiracy that  :-X

Space Bar:
Heard of it, but never played it.
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 30, 2004, 04:14:23 PM
Something I should mention about Dragon's Lair...

The orignal was made somewhere around 1983, so don't expect too much(as far as plot, controls, etc).

Also, Dragon's Lair 3D, only costs about $10 now.

P.S. Savage is only $13, if you get it from a site I could name(if you ask for it, I'll post it).
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on August 30, 2004, 11:18:52 PM
I still go back and play chrono trigger... Game age matters little to me. And Im sure this Dragons Lair thing is well worth it :)
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 31, 2004, 05:10:43 PM
Here's a link, to the old Savage thread(PLEASE, LOOK AT THE MOVIE FILE).

Savage Thread (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1418;start=0)
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 31, 2004, 10:47:59 PM
Dragon's Lair's animation, was made by ex-Disney artists.

I think I should also mention, that most people say the PC's "Dragon's Lair 20th Anniversary Box Set" is better(more levels, I'm told). The PC version also has a difficulty setting(I doubt the DVD version has one). They have the same games, and similar features. I'm not sure if the DVD version has the Starcade episode(old TV show, Dragon's Lair played a major part in that episode).

The main difference, is that there are things that can be done in a PC game, that can't be done on a multi-platform DVD.

Windows=more levels(I'm told that, anyways)

DVD=Will last longer(XP, will become outdated sooner, than a DVD player), and will work on almost any visual DVD based platform.

P.S. I'm not sure which has better graphics, between DVD and PC versions(both pics are from Windows version).  :-\

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h//images.gamezone.com/screens/23/1/4/s23104_pc_6.jpg)

(http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/5462/2h//images.gamezone.com/screens/23/1/4/s23104_pc_7.jpg)
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: B'rrr on September 01, 2004, 12:30:29 AM
yeah, Dragon Lair was cool!!  :D
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on September 01, 2004, 07:14:14 AM
geeze! Does everyone know about this, Dragon Lair game? I seriously have never heard of it till LN mentioned it...  :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Jeysie on September 01, 2004, 07:43:10 AM
Heh. I had heard of it before, I just never played it because I'm not big on action games.

I heard the reason it was so hard was because the game was more or less completely scripted, and playing it consisted of figuring out the exact path you needed to take through everything.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 01, 2004, 08:32:10 AM
Jeysie's right.

If you were playing arcade games when Dragon's Lair was made, you know what it is. Compare pac-man style graphics, to that. See the reason?

Like I said before, I wasn't around at the time, but I played the DOS port. Even then, it had better graphics than most games.

I think the gameplay's fun, as long as I only have to pay for it once(like I said, it probably would have cost me hundreds of $ to play at the arcades). XD

Besides, it probably has the best death sequences ever made for a game(and maybe the most also).
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on September 01, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
And just what is wrong with pac-man?  :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 01, 2004, 10:31:36 AM
Quote from: FataliOmega on September 01, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
And just what is wrong with pac-man?  :P

It's not Dragon's Lair. XD
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on September 01, 2004, 10:37:31 AM
Its good to know youve figured out English spelling... Now you just need to figure out what words to use for what gender  ::)

;D
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 01, 2004, 10:41:58 AM
QuoteIts good to know youve figured out English spelling

What do you mean by that?
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: FataliOmega on September 01, 2004, 10:43:46 AM
QuoteAnd just what is wrong with pac-man?  



It's not Dragon's Lair.  

Yes, "Pac-Man" definitely doesnt spell "Dragon's Lair."


...Ok, it was a reach... Ill shut up now.  :-[
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: dew7 on September 01, 2004, 02:21:02 PM
LN, how long did it take for you to be able to finish Dragon's Lair?
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 01, 2004, 07:18:17 PM
Quote from: dew7 on September 01, 2004, 02:21:02 PM
LN, how long did it take for you to be able to finish Dragon's Lair?

I'm not sure(I was somewhere in between 5 and 7 years old, when I finished it the first time). The DOS version didn't have saves, but it had unlimited lives(the pause button was VERY important). I'll guess 1-4 hours(that's as close as I'm going to get, to an answer). After you learn the pattern, it would take under an hour(still fun though, and you'd probably learn new ways to die).
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: dew7 on September 05, 2004, 08:26:05 PM
Thanks, LN. So is the DVD version really a playable adventure game even though it is sold as a movie? :D
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 05, 2004, 08:29:27 PM
Quote from: dew7 on September 05, 2004, 08:26:05 PM
Thanks, LN. So is the DVD version really a playable adventure game even though it is sold as a movie? :D

I wouldn't call it adventure, though some might(it was about the closest thing they had at the time, minus text games). I'd probably call it action.

Yeah, it's a game, that's normally sold as a movie.

and why not? It's a great game, that plays on your DVD player.
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: dew7 on September 05, 2004, 08:38:12 PM
LOL

I guess you could call it an interactive movie.   ;D
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 05, 2004, 08:39:52 PM
Quote from: dew7 on September 05, 2004, 08:38:12 PM
LOL

I guess you could call it an interactive movie.   ;D

Many people have called it that.

What I'd like is for someone to make is a real movie(non-cartoon), that let you make choices. Your choices would affect the outcome of the movie. Sadly, nobody's made one of those yet, as far as I know. :(
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: dew7 on September 05, 2004, 08:46:10 PM
A number of years ago I went to a choose your own adventure movie that was test marketed in N.Y.C.  I guess it never caught on because I have not seen it anywhere else.  You used a joystick that was on the seat that had three different colored butttons to choose what happened next.  People in the theater got up and actually pushed buttons on other seats.  The experience was actually quite chaotic.  
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: GravityMX on September 17, 2004, 09:50:35 PM
I play Battlefield 1942 and Desert Combat mod quite often, but i doubt that would work as great on your laptop. Counter strike is still going strong after 5 years  :o.
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: InvertedSilence on September 21, 2004, 06:04:16 PM
Okay, if your looking for something to totally take the place of your real life (like it's done to me unfortunately) pick up The Sims 2.
Good graphics, fun, never-ending...
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on September 22, 2004, 05:32:10 AM
Quote from: InvertedSilence on September 21, 2004, 06:04:16 PM
Okay, if your looking for something to totally take the place of your real life (like it's done to me unfortunately) pick up The Sims 2.
Good graphics, fun, never-ending...

Took the words right out of my mouth/fingers. REALLY need to pick this up when i get payed  ;D I already have a few chars made with teh bodyshop util so i cant wait to check out the new graphics engine and get making mah family tree and stuff!

Oh actually I'll copy and paste someone else's impressions of their first play (of the sims in genneral, didn't play 1 either) from a gaming forum i visit (tis a bit long but worth teh read :D):


"Go on, give it a go. Just try it !"

With those words I rolled my eyes, took the game off my girlfriend and installed The Sims 2 onto my hardrive.

Me ?! Playing the Sims ?! The sequel to the game that had hogged the charts since forever and had always ( as far as I'd been concerned ) been the epitome of gaming.

I'd never played the original. I didn't want to. I mean, what could be so fun about guiding gibberish talking computer people through their everyday life ? Give me a plasma rifle and some zombies anyday.

"Pfffft, The Sims !" I sneered. "I'll try it, but I warn you right now I'm not going to like it."

And so it began. After a few short tutorials to bring me up to speed I settled into one of the preformed adventures.

Enter Dina and Nina, two young well-to-do socialites with a nice three bedroom detached house somewhere in Simland. It was most likely one of those suburbs I created back all those years ago in Sim City 2000. There was probably an industrial area or military airport just off screen.

Dina, the buxom blond haired beauty has a thing for Mortimer. Mortimer is a rich old man. You can kind of do the maths on that one.

Auburn haired Nina on the other hand has a thing for Don. Don's a young socialite too and probably quite a catch.

The simple aim you're presented with is to get the girls to realise their wants and desires. Dina wants Mortimer. Nina wants Don. Sounds simple, but as I was to find out just like real life things are seldom straight forward.....

The scene opened with Dina and Nina lounging around on their roof garden, mixing drinks, sunbathing and chatting in the Jacuzzi. They idled the day away gossiping before the sun went down and it was party time. Dina got on the phone and called round the only two guests that were needed. Enter Mortimer and Don.

Things started well. Dina got talking to Mortimer. There didn't appear to be any awkward silences.

Nina started talking to Don. Things looked to be going great.

And then it went pear shaped in the most unusual fashion. For you see, it appears that the well-to-do socialites house had been built on some kind of Indian Burial ground. Something ghostly was stomping around the house.

When the ghost burst into the party it was guaranteed to be a killer to the proceedings. But I didn't expect Mortimer to piss himself with fright before legging it, full tilt out of the door.

Understandably Dana was upset and started crying ( but then it wouldn't be a party unless there was a girl crying at some point ). Perhaps she was upset so much because Nina and Don were paying tonsil tennis right in front of her and far too preoccupied with one another to see either the ghost or the pissing incident. Dina stormed off to bed leaving Nina to mop up Mortimers puddle of rancid piss.

Much to my surprise while Nina was cleaning up, Don snuck up stairs and into Dina's room. The dirty sod was standing in the corner of her bedroom watching her sleep !! Afraid of where this was going I tried to intervene. The spirit-world beat me to it.

The ghost appeared, shouted "Boo! " at Don who promptly pissed himself in the corner of the room. Nina barely saw him as he fled down the stairs and out the door, screaming in terror. Now well into the early hours of the morning, Nina decided enough was enough and decided to turn in for the evening too.

As if random hauntings weren't enough things got even worse when the burglar turned up. The thieving git snuck into the house while both girls were asleep, taking most of Dina possessions. Alerted by the burglars numerous trips up and down the stairs, Nina made a dash for the phone to call the police. Typically the nefarious burglar was long gone by the time they arrived.

Hearing all the ruckus Dina woke up. If having your intended sugar daddy piss himself in front of you thanks to ghostly activity isn't going to spoil your evening, having all your stuff nicked when you've got an extreme fear of burglars certainly will. That, and awaking to find there's a mysterious piss stain in the corner of your room.

It was all a bit too much for Dina. She simply went straight off the deep end. Young Nina could only look on as her house mate went doo-lally and turned into a jibbering wreck. Fortunately a psychiatrist was soon on hand to sort the problem out. After some quick hypnotherapy, and what appeared to be getting Dina to act like a monkey, she was right as rain for what remained of the night.

The next day eventually dawned. Taking a break from watching Nina bathe, I was alarmed to find that Dina wasn't completely over last nights trauma. I found her standing at the road outside the house in her night clothes begging for money. After a quick berating and a change to some more suitable attire it was clear that Dina had too much time on her hands. She needed a job, something to teach her to be a bit tougher and to bring in some cash to pay the psychiatric bills.

A check of the job ads revealed some interesting prospects.

Pickpocket ? Hmm, Dina was far too pretty to be dabbling in the underworld.

Medical Test subject ? The thought of Dina coming home with a beard or a supperflous third buttock disturbed me a little.

Working as a Hospital Nurse ? Bingo. Character building and well paid too. Without hesitation I signed her up to start the next day.

Meanwhile the phone was ringing. Nina slipped out of her bath to answer. Delighted she found that it was Don. Angered, she found that he only wanted to speak to Dina.

Later that afternoon Don, the bedroom creeping lothario, called over to see Nina. They kissed. They chatted. Then Don found his wooing skills were being put off by the stench of the garbage that had accumulated in the front room. In a bid to put him back into his stride, Nina rushed to clear it up.

Dirty Don seized the opportunity to make a break for it and burst in on Dina in the bathroom. I should imagine he was as shocked as I was to find that Dina was standing fully clothed in an empty bathtub dancing and singing at the top of her voice. Clearly the girls head still wasn't right.

Dina told Dirty Don to get out. I guess the dancing and singing was far more enjoyable than anything the urine soaked Casanova could offer.

Speaking of urine, what of Mortimer ? Had he ran off into the night only to suffer a heart attack and collapse in a hedge row ? Dana gave him a call to see. Everything was fine. They chatted for a small eternity.

Another day broke, and Dina got up for her first day of work. She had a quick bath and got changed before hitching a lift to work in a passing ambulance. Nina had the day off and took advantage of the empty house to call Dirty Don over. It wasn't long before the two of them were all over one another on the settee like a pair of animals.

Nina slipped upstairs with only one thing on her mind. Dirty Don only had one thing on his mind too. He turned on the TV.

Nina stripped to her undies and lounged seductively on the bed. She called to Dirty Don to join her. Prising himself away from the TV he sauntered into the bedroom and just stood there, probably taking in the view. Just as it looked like something was finally going to happen between the two of them.......... Nina's phone rang !



And so ended my first experience with The Sims 2.

I looked at the clock. I'd been engrossed in it for two and a half hours without realising it. And despite trying to hate it, I just couldn't.

"See, I told you that you'd like it "

Its funny, and engaging and for some reason you can't help but care for those on screen little computer people and their adventures. For all its criticisms for being a runaway smash and an out of control cash cow, the original Sims sold like it did for a reason and the sequel is bound to do the same. The array of possibilities, options and outcomes, are simply mind boggling.

There's so much I've yet to experience such as my Sims getting old, having kids, a full blown career and evetually shuffling off their mortal coil.

For me playing the Sims 2 was going to be a dirty little secret, but instead I felt compelled to talk about it. I might have to go and play a nice `manly` game like Burnout 3, or a `hardcore` one like Ikaruga to reassure myself in a moment. But assured I'll be going back pretty soon for another slice of Sims life.

The closing message is simple - try it, you might like it.

Source: ntsc-uk.com forums
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: racx_00 on September 22, 2004, 08:28:10 AM
I wanna get it now :-\

I mean i loved the Sims, but we have so much trouble installing them that i decided to give up on them :-\, whenever i install Makin Magic it says i havent installed the original Sims :-\

But anywayz im definitely getting Sims 2 :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: InvertedSilence on September 22, 2004, 08:24:31 PM
Dont be surpised if you start mesauring your success in real life by how well your sims are doing.  :sweating:


Hey! I do too have a life! Just not this weekend...
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: dew7 on September 22, 2004, 10:46:26 PM
I have yet to try the game but I think I will pass.  I have no desire to create that type of made-up life.   :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 22, 2004, 10:53:14 PM
Have tried for a few minutes.

I find the game disturbing. :P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on September 23, 2004, 02:15:03 PM
Why disturbing?

I was seriously addicted to the first one, i remember working on building my dream home from 7PM-4AM once with a fully kitted out house covered in tiger skin rugs and the such  ;D

AHHHHH i need it so much now! Not fair!

*stabs bank account in attempt to create more moneyz*
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: racx_00 on September 24, 2004, 08:02:15 AM
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on September 23, 2004, 02:15:03 PM
I was seriously addicted to the first one, i remember working on building my dream home from 7PM-4AM once with a fully kitted out house covered in tiger skin rugs and the such  ;D
Thats exactly like me :P, i would sit there at all hours of the morning just creating the house and putting items and objects everywhere :D

*feels like playing The Sims*
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 24, 2004, 10:56:28 AM
I've done that in games before. :D

Building a house and decorating it is fun! :P

*feels like playing Morrowind* ;P
Title: Re:Computer Game Endorsements
Post by: InvertedSilence on September 24, 2004, 09:35:10 PM
Fprtunately I have enough control over my brain not to let The Sims take over my life entirely.

I can't deny the fact that I got totally addicted to it the first weekend I bought it though. But then again, I suppose it was because the weekend was intensely boring and open.