King's Quest III VGA by Infamous Adventures (http://www.infamous-adventures.com)
Interesting.
Welcome Gwydion! ;D
Looks like AGDI's got some competition! XD
Woah...those screens of KQ3 VGA look great! If they ever finish it, that game is gonna rock!
The screenshots do look good, though they misspelled Mannanan.... ambitious of them to have three projects going at once; I do recognize most of those names from the AGDI forums, though.
Haha, and where'd Gwydion find that smashing green Robin Hood-esque getup? ;D
I like the outfit, it's remniscient of Alexander's outfit from KQ6. Also, I think that there are completley different teams working on QFI and KQ3.
Im going to be a naysayer, for a moment.
How much can we trust these guys to pull through on KQ3+. To this date, how many freeware, adventure game remakes of good quality have come out? Not too many. And most have been exclusively from AGDI.
Lets look at the evidence.
1) Gwydion shows up without so much of a word, drops a link to his website, and departs. He doesnt stay around to answer questions, he doesnt even introduce KQ3+. Pardon me for being sober, but that doesnt seem like a very good way to garner attention.
2) They're working on 3 games at the same time. This shows, to me, a lack of focus. I doubt they have the numbers to do that many projects effectively. If Caeser suddenly recruited everyone that posts regularly on this forum, and we were all geniuses, we still wouldnt be able to take on 3 projects effectively. Its a bad sign.
3) Now, why would Gwydion come onto the KQIX forums in the first place? Take a look at their forums. These guys lack a fanbase. That means one of two things. Either they're way new, in which case we should be careful because they just might fold under the painful, long monthes that making good adventure games requires; or they have had their website up, but very little activity on their part has caused them to remain relatively unnoticed. Again, a bad sign.
4) Lastly, if Gwydion was at all serious about 'courting' the KQ9 fanbase he wouldve atleast made an effort to post more than once on our board. He wouldve given himseslf a professional-sounding signature including a weblink to the IA website, and, most importantly, he wouldve removed the "I am a llama!" from his personal dialogue.
I may be jumping the gun. Guess well know in a week or so. If he doesnt show back up here by then, I would bet good money that a quality KQ3+ from IA will never be released.
I dont like being this way, but Ive been disappointed FAR too often from independent groups. IA, if your out there, please prove me wrong. I will be your most loyal fan, if you do.
Quoteif your out there, please prove me wrong.
Yup, you're wrong. :sneaky:
Good. Do a good job on KQ3, alright? 8)
(and please remove that darn "llama" thing... Thats just ridiculous) :P
Ohhh...Erik's getting demanding!
I just have a hard time taking anyone seriously, much less trusting someone, when I have no details about a person. He didnt even have a listed email address till an hour ago (correction: still doesnt have an email address.) How do I know its not just some random person, age 14?
With that said, I do apologize if my previous post was a little to much on the "attack dog" side. I really want to see new adventure games made by new independent groups. One of my dreams is to, one day, be a part of an independent game company. I sincerely hope that AI is serious. Fans (especially me) hate to be let down. With the death of the Antioch Chronicles, which had a fanbase the size of KQ9, I just have a hard time trusting without proof. Dont you dare mislead us. >:(
lol...my demanding post was in response your
QuoteGood. Do a good job on KQ3, alright?
(and please remove that darn "llama" thing... Thats just ridiculous)
post. Sorry, I should have quoted it in the original :P But your arguments are valid, since some people don't understand all that goes into making a computer game (me included!).
8) I repeat, the llama thing is just ridiculous. :P
We're doing the kq3 remake. We have no time for childish signatures and avatars. :P
Good PR is a key to any games success. Thats why this forum exists. Thats why the positions that Yonkey and Say occupy, exist. Now, if you want to go around posting about the AI: KQ3+ game, that falls under the category of PR. The more professional you make yourself look, the more likely people are going to take you and the game company you represent, seriously. Posting 800 times isnt important. Being on the forums you post 24/7 isnt important. But making yourself easily reachable and showing up somewhat often to make intelligent comments and answer questions, is very important. Im sure most people on this forum would agree with me. Games die without fan support. Dont knock us, we matter.
Hello, I'm Blackthorne. If you have visted www.infamous-adventures.com and seen the team section, you'd know me. If you don't, I promise it's your loss. ::)
Let me say, here to all the naysayers:
We are going to finish everygame that we're making.
What you don't understand about the team is that we've nothing better to do than make these games. That, and we have two seperate teams making the games. Now, I'm sure Sierra had more than three projects running at a time when they were making games. Otherwise, we'd never have all the games we love.
Besides, QFI and KQ3, like I said, have different lead programmers, while the artists generally work both projects. Both games have been in production for almost 9 months now, and much work has been done. What we choose to show people is but the tip of the proverbial iceberg.
The Tablet of Altheria is a game that is made SOLEY by one of our team-mates, BerserkerTails. That's all him, he does that himself. We just cheer him on. Yay.
I appreciate the abject doubt, and I'm sorry it gets you so riled up, but I gaurentee that you'll be vilified when the game comes out. We have some of the most dedicated and talented members of the gaming community working on these projects. Besides, it's just fan games. Not like we're making you pay any money or devote anything for them!
Check our site for updates. And have a pleasent day.
Blackthorne
"...at least I'm not Jodo Kast....."
PS, don't worry. No one is mis-led.
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Quote from: FataliOmega on August 30, 2004, 09:46:30 AM
Im going to be a naysayer, for a moment.
You're not just a nay-sayer, you're also an ass.
Now, for seriousness, let me actually try and answer your charges. I've been with IA from almost the beginning as one of the head writers on BOTH projects.
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How much can we trust these guys to pull through on KQ3+. To this date, how many freeware, adventure game remakes of good quality have come out? Not too many. And most have been exclusively from AGDI.
How long has AGS been out there? I've only learned about this community last December. Give it time to grow buddy.
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Lets look at the evidence.
Ok, but keep in mind, I have more evidence than you do.
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1) Gwydion shows up without so much of a word, drops a link to his website, and departs. He doesnt stay around to answer questions, he doesnt even introduce KQ3+. Pardon me for being sober, but that doesnt seem like a very good way to garner attention.
I have absolutely no idea who this guy is. In fact, I never come here, but someone on our boards alerted us to their thread (so maybe it was them).
Perhaps it was a fan from AGDI who just wanted to get us some attention.
Maybe he was just being nice.
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2) They're working on 3 games at the same time. This shows, to me, a lack of focus.
And that line shows a lack of tact.
We have a dedicated programmer on each game. So why on Earth couldn't we have three games going on at once (especialyl when one of the games is virtually entirely a one-man project?) With QFI and KQ3, it's not like the programmers could program at the same time, so doesn't it make sense to have them programming seperate games so they're constantly busy?
I think that shows productivity and excellent use of resources; not a lack of focus.
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I doubt they have the numbers to do that many projects effectively.
I'm sorry, but how many times have you visited our forums (www.infamous-adventures.com/forums) to actually meet our team? Ya... I didn't think so.
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If Caeser suddenly recruited everyone that posts regularly on this forum, and we were all geniuses, we still wouldnt be able to take on 3 projects effectively. Its a bad sign.
Then maybe you should get more posters on this board. :p
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3) Now, why would Gwydion come onto the KQIX forums in the first place? Take a look at their forums. These guys lack a fanbase.
OH REALLY?!? Wow, then I guess those 100 or so guests that visit our forums on the FIRST DAY of the announcement is pretty small after all.
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That means one of two things. Either they're way new, in which case we should be careful because they just might fold under the painful, long monthes that making good adventure games requires; or they have had their website up, but very little activity on their part has caused them to remain relatively unnoticed. Again, a bad sign.
We've been around since last December. Try visiting our web-site before talking about how "new" we are. Do your homework before you open your mouth, will ya? It makes YOU look unprofessional.
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4) Lastly, if Gwydion was at all serious about 'courting' the KQ9 fanbase he wouldve atleast made an effort to post more than once on our board. He wouldve given himseslf a professional-sounding signature including a weblink to the IA website, and, most importantly, he wouldve removed the "I am a llama!" from his personal dialogue.
All I'm going say here is get a life: who cares what he posted here.
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I may be jumping the gun.
Ya think?!
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Guess well know in a week or so. If he doesnt show back up here by then, I would bet good money that a quality KQ3+ from IA will never be released.
Programming is almost entirely complete. backgrounds are being finished every day. So really, honestly, whether or not he shows up again has NO impact on whether or not we finish this game.
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I dont like being this way, but Ive been disappointed FAR too often from independent groups. IA, if your out there, please prove me wrong.
We will. And if you're so damn disapointed, why don't you get cranking on a game?
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I will be your most loyal fan, if you do.
Wow, that's original. Becoming a fan after many have already discovered them and stuck up for them in the past. Wow, aren't you original.
Everyone, please visit our forums at www.infamous-adventures.com/forums. I hate to waste the nice KQ9 folks web-space.
Thank you for the official response, and believe me, its much appreciated. I will be eagerly following your games in progress. Just be careful you dont ever promise too much.
Thank you for your time.
-Erik
Erik,
No problem. It was just brought to my attention. And believe me.... I'm not promising more than I can give. Playing our teamdemos of this kicks ass. Heh.
Oh, and you'll have to forgive Rambaldi. He just went off Zoloft, and it looks like you made him mad. He's our resident Pit-bull. That's why we're infamous.
Happy gaming!
Bt
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Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 12:22:09 PM
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Aw, man, now I have to get the lithium! I swear to god, if this takes time away from QFI production...........
Bt
Ok, I have removed the post. This is just getting silly. Theres no hurt feelings, and Im still looking forward to your games. Again, thank you for your professional attitude, Blackthorne. Take no more time to address me. Go back to your games and succeed! :)
Thank you.
-Erik
Quote from: FataliOmega on August 30, 2004, 12:28:00 PM
That was uncalled for, Rambaldi0503.
So was your post.
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Several times during, and after, my post I said that I hoped I was wrong and that I really wanted to believe.
Good, join the legions that have seen the light! :p
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You sound like youve been around a bit.
Yes, as a matter of fact. I noticed above you mocked that Gwyndion might be 14 years old. A quick glance at your profile shows you're just 19 (a mere 5 years older than your "guess"). You show your age (well, you should; your over-dramatic posts about the failure of independent adventure games makes me think you're more like 12).
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Just how many times have adventure game fans been disappointed? How many times have we had our favorite companies fall apart, our favorite series get changed into random arcade games. A whole lot.
THEY'RE FRIGGIN ADVENTURE GAMES! GET OVER YOURSELF! What, you think you're original cuz you're being a pessimist? You think you're the first? That post I responded to was the typical cliche post as much as people saying, "I have this great new idea for an adventure game. Graham and Roger Wilco go bass fishing! Release will be next month!"
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Im sorry that my post offended you, as it clearly did.
I wasn't offended. you don't know me, I was very sarcastic there, as I always am.
I hope I didn't offend you, I simply wanted to put your in your place.
You tried to put us in ours, and you had no right to do so. Why? Because I haven't seen you making any games lately.
Prove me wrong and showed me you've made some, or tried to, and I'll take that back.
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If you dont like my skepticism, prove me wrong.
We're not making the game for you buddy. We're making it for ourselves. Then we're just going to share to all the fans who have supported us from day one. We make nothing for people like you.
We have nothing -- repeat NOTHING -- to prove to you. I care little for your skepticism.
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Dont just hop on to attack me, as an individual.
Don't just hop on and attack my team. Or our projects.
-- Alan
Erik,
Just saying, you hopped on to attack us before getting to know us. Perhaps you could have dropped by our forums, made some points, asked to get to know us before immediately denouncing the project.
We're hard working chaps, and Rambaldi is a barbarous writer, at times. He's just protecting our interests, because he knows how hard I work. Also, he has to make up for what a lazy b****** he is.
But seriously, you did write a critical letter, to which I handled one way, and he handled another. Regardless, take my word here - and believe that above all the project will be as awesome as a bag of Doritios and a Coke. Well, maybe a bit better than that. Not everyone likes Doritos. Or Coke. Maybe it'll be cooler than a Bag of Chips and a Pepsi. But what if you're into health? Damn. Uh, it'll rock more than a Diet Sprite and a bag of baby carrots!
Man I love King's Quest.
Bt
Damn Blackthorne for going and being all professional. Makes me look like a rabid dog, when the truth is, I'm nothing more than a little pug. :D
Geez, lay off, would you?
Fatali is right. If you're going to show up out of the blue as a random newbie, and post a single unprofessional-looking advertising post out of the blue, people are not going to take you seriously. It's a fact of the Internet, and it's something you have to deal with. (shrug)
And if you have fans doing that sort of thing, you might want to tell them to lay off before they stir up problems for you.
I can understand if you don't have time to do substantial PR. In which case you might be better off simply concentrating on your work, and holding off on PR until you're done or almost done. No PR is better than sloppy PR that gives you a bad image.
And I can say that the sort of behavior Rambaldi0503 just showed is definitely going to give you a bad image.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I'm not professional; I'm just drawn that way.
;D
Bt
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 12:39:27 PM
Geez, lay off, would you?
Tough when somebody else throws the first punch.
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Fatali is right. If you're going to show up out of the blue as a random newbie, and post a single unprofessional-looking advertising post out of the blue, people are not going to take you seriously. It's a fact of the Internet, and it's something you have to deal with. (shrug)
Um, I wasn't aware myself or someone else from the team did so. As I said, I have no idea who Gwyndion is. I never come here, and as far as I know, nobody else from IA does either. We stick to our own forums and AGDI.
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I can understand if you don't have time to do substantial PR. In which case you might be better off simply concentrating on your work, and holding off on PR until you're done or almost done. No PR is better than sloppy PR that gives you a bad image.
I work in PR for a living, so please don't tell me what good and bad PR is. Also, we've been workign on this game since December, so I think we waited plenty long before announcing it.
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And I can say that the sort of behavior Rambaldi0503 just showed is definitely going to give you a bad image.
Actually, I think in about two days, no one is going to even remember these posts, so honestly, you and the guy with the avatar from FF8, get over yourselves and stop taking things so damn seriously.
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Peace & Luv, Liz
Cheese doodles and Grape Soda, Alan
Yes, of course Liz, PR is important. It's REALLY important if you're selling a game. In fact, nothing is more important when you need to move that shelf space.
Unfortunately, the sum total of my pay for both Quest For Infamy and King's Quest 3 has been a handful of pocket lint, and a string of love letters from Rambaldi's sister. Useful, but it won't buy me lunch.
Anyway, you can be as professional and take yourself as seriously as you want - but let me ask you this: who is making the game, and who is pontificating?? ;D
For the vocabulary challenged, again: who is making games, and who is twiddling thumbs across a keyboard, commenting on all that they are NOT doing? Hmmm? Doo-doo-doot-doo-doo-dee. Hum-ho....
Now, all witty banter aside, we're making a game. When it's done, play it if you want. If you don't want to play it, play Doom 3 and don't bother me.
I would LOVE for fans of old Sierra games to play my games. But if you're going to b**** without doing anything, I won't take you seriously. I got off my lazy butt and started making games!!! Anyone can do it. Also, order the Tony Robbins tapes. Pure magic. Not only am I making Sierra games, I remain un-employed but now I've come to terms with that and I'm happy!!!!!
Bt
QuoteI have absolutely no idea who this guy is. In fact, I never come here, but someone on our boards alerted us to their thread (so maybe it was them).
Hey, I just needed a break! Do you know how many planks such a pirate ship has?!? I already started to dream of wood textures!! Bah, noone likes me. If someone needs me, I'm back in PSP. :P ;)
Gwydion, I must say, despite what two members here might say, I think that your PR skills -- despite not working officially for IA -- are excellent. Look how much attention you've garnered for us.
You don't happen to work in PR in real life do you? If you live in the NY area, look me up. I might know of a job opening for your special skills in publis relations.
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 12:44:12 PMI work in PR for a living, so please don't tell me what good and bad PR is. Also, we've been workign on this game since December, so I think we waited plenty long before announcing it.
Well, if it turns out that having your first advertising post on this forum look unprofessional, and dealing with criticism in a rude manner, isn't bad PR, then yeah, I guess I don't know what I'm talking about.
QuoteActually, I think in about two days, no one is going to even remember these posts, so honestly, you and the guy with the avatar from FF8, get over yourselves and stop taking things so damn seriously.
If you don't take yourselves seriously, how to do you expect your fans to take you seriously? Taking yourself seriously doesn't mean having to be stuffy and humorless, it simply means caring about doing a good job. If you don't have the time to do a good job with your PR, then you're better off waiting until you do.
I've actually heard of IA before, and I think your stuff looks interesting. But if you feel the need to come along and act like jerks on this forum, I'm going to feel less inclined to play your games.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quoteget over yourselves and stop taking things so damn seriously.
Indeed. We will if you will.
No seriously, its now past the point of reason. As of this moment, I refuse to post anything else in this thread. I suggest everyone else do likewise.
Blackthorne, I will definitely not be playing Doom3, but I just might play your game. Good luck.
-Erik
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 12:57:22 PM
Well, if it turns out that having your first advertising post on this forum look unprofessional, and dealing with criticism in a rude manner, isn't bad PR, then yeah, I guess I don't know what I'm talking about.
How many times do I have to repeat myself? I, nor anyone to my knowledge from the IA team, posted that link. Why do you keep blaming us?
And who cares if it was unprofessional? This isn't a profession. This is a hobby, that we take seriously.
There is a difference.
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If you don't take yourselves seriously, how to do you expect your fans to take you seriously? Taking yourself seriously doesn't mean having to be stuffy and humorless, it simply means caring about doing a good job.
Have you ever betatested our projects? We have a few who have that can attest to the seriousness with which we take our games?
Have you ever visited our web-site? Our forums?
Check them out, and then challenge me on how serious we take IA.
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If you don't have the time to do a good job with your PR, then you're better off waiting until you do.
You know why we don't have time to do good PR? We're too busy making a game.
What's your excuse?
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I've actually heard of IA before, and I think your stuff looks interesting.
Thank you.
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But if you feel the need to come along and act like jerks on this forum,
Then tell fellow members not to stab knives in our back when we're not looking.
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I'm going to feel less inclined to play your games.
Ok. That's your choice. As I said, we're not making these games for YOU.
I am getting really sick and tired of reading posts at AGDI, AGS or our boards where fans who never try to make games make demands on those that do.
You in no position to tell us what to do. We're creating the games. FOR FREE.
I'm sick of people complaining games take to long to release, or that we don't release enough screenshots... what are YOU guys doing? In the waititme, why don't YOU guys make something?
Maybe if you were off creating games, you'd see why we get defensive about our games.
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Peace & Luv, Liz
Corona Lights & Hot Dogs, Alan
PS
Seriously. Come over to our boards and let's have a nice, professional chat. We will answer any questions about our games. But this forum is not the right place to continue this conversation.
See, the Doom 3 thing WAS a joke. I just meant it to insinuate any random average new-bad-FPS shooter.
Okay, okay, all. Let's all just calm down!!!!!
We all love King's Quest and Sierra games.......
and trust me, I love you! So just hold on, and I promise a good game. No need to trade barbs anymore points made.....
I can sum up:
A) Finish what you started.
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B) We know what we're doing.
We could also say
C) Rambaldi, take your Zoloft.
I'm gonna go pop a Viagra and draw another KQ3 background.
Oh, and trust me - I do take making the game seriously. But not much else. ;D
Bt
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"I was taught a month ago, to bide my time and take it slow.... but then I learned just yesterday to rush and never waste the day."
First of all, welcome Rambaldi0503 and Blackthorne! ;D
Thanks for signing up at our forums and discussing your project (even if the original advertisor isn't related to you ;P). Fatali's attack was more on the original poster, whom he (and myself) assumed to be either a PR member of your team, or a fan.
We've also had plenty of nay-sayers for our project and I know how frustrating it can be explaining to people outside your team about things that are completely obvious to members inside your team, or even to forum regulars. The conversation in this thread did get a bit heated, so let's just keep it civil. 8)
Your projects (particularly KQ3+) look very nice and as I said earlier, can be compared to AGDI's work. ;D Feel free to use our forums to keep us all informed of major announcements regarding your projects! :)
One - Stop. Breathe. Calm yourselves. Count to ten. ......... Okay, better now? Good! :)
Two - okay, we get it, no one knows who Gwydion is or if he's even on their team or just a fan of theirs. Said and done. If Gwydion would like to clarify that for us, that'd be nice.
Blackthorne, thanks for explaining more calmly than a few other people around. It's good to hear from other game-makers on the free & online variety, and I do honestly hope that your projects go smoothly and successfully! I'd love to see a KQ3/KQ3+ get made and look forward to it. :)
Rambaldi, I'd agree Fatali's first post was a bit... attack-like, but he did later apologize for that. Rambaldi, it'd be appreciated if you could calm down a bit when refuting Fatali or anyone else's points. Jeysie's pretty level-headed as forum-goers go, and I know she wasn't attacking or mocking you, and I think though it came off that way, it wasn't Fatali's intention either.
For all parties involved and anyone listening, please try to stay calm even if 'under attack' around here in the future, okay? Misunderstandings on the internet are fairly easy to come by, but also very easy to avoid or rectify. We don't want flame wars going on here, nor will we tolerate them if they happen. Fatali was looking for more information than Gwydion provided, and to doubt the follow-through of online made games is reasonable; most of them don't make it, and we've had such doubts slinged at us for KQ9, as well. If people are so stubborn as to not believe in you, then just keep on doing what you're doign, make the game, and prove 'em wrong!"Living well is the best revenge," and whatnot.
Oh, and Fatali, the "I'm a llama!" is the default avatar line when you sign up, and I doubt Gwydion, being so new, was aware that it was (a) there or (b) changeable just yet. If you've got a problem with that, talk to Yonkey ;)
Okay, so from me-- Hello and welcome to the KQ9 forums Blackthorne, Rambaldi and Gwydion! I'm Katie, asst. director of writing here, and we're glad to have you posting and to see more Sierra fans remaking and adding to the KQ series online. ;D Best of luck to you with making your game(s) and I look forard to seeing more on them in the future, they look to be off to a good start. I'm wondering, what's your progress like on KQ3 in particular so far?
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Oh, and Fatali, the "I'm a llama!" is the default avatar line when you sign up, and I doubt Gwydion, being so new, was aware that it was (a) there or (b) changeable just yet. If you've got a problem with that, talk to Yonkey ;)
Hehe, I believe that was the first thing I changed in
my profile (no offense to llamas). ;-D
Sorry Jeysie? Why are you bringing this up again when Fatali stopped it? You are making things worse when I was glad that this pointless conflict had stopped. We advertised our King's Quest 3 post so we can tell the adventure community that one of the greatest adventure games of all time was getting a revamping. Your first reactions; Well what do you know? We've never heard of Infamous Adventures, and they must have been the 5th people to announce a King's Quest 3 remake! Let's oppose them because they aren't called AGDI.
Listen, we've already recieved great feedback from this project, just this morning I've had an applicant asking if they could help do a 3D intro for Infamous Adventures. This proves what we are capable of achieving, and I want to know why a grown women such as yourself is still opposing us? I haven't got one single thread of doubt about this projects fate, as I've seen what goes on in the private forums, since I work for IA, and believe me, the backgrounds our artists dish out, the almost flawless concept demos our programmers upload, the professional music, makes this projects just seem unbelievable.
So my reccommendations are, stop thinking this project won't be done, because, I'm not just saying it will be done just for the sheer hell of trying to prove you wrong, I'm saying this because I know all three projects will be done. You do know that each project has different people working for them do you? Well then, stop worrying that these projects will conflict with each other, because, well, funny I say this but... THEY WON'T!
Now, if you don't mind I'm printing this speech off and framing it onto my wall hoping to get famous by it one day.
Edit: Reading everything above kinda makes this post look abit pointless now, oh well, I'm still proud!
Well thank you for the warm welcome and I will try to stop by now and again (but to post about KQ9, not our own projects). I hope to see you guys over on our forums in the near future to give us updates as well.
I hate to comment on KQ3's progress, cuz I don't want to mis-state. Programming is very nearly done I believe. I believe. Backgrounds, I've seen drafts of every one, and for the most part, it's mostly Daventy that hasn't been worked on (though i've seen a few paths).
The three bear's is done and looks BEAUTIFUL. Just saw that two days ago.
I'm sure you guys can agree: while I might have been harsh, I think you've probably noticed -- as I had -- the amount of backlash from fans lately. Fans who are growing impatient and forgetting the hard work we're doing for THEM. And a lot of project developers -- such as myself -- are sick of it. Instead of criticizing, I'd rather see them put their effort into making a game. Instead of saying, oh, game projects always fall apart boo hoo hoo... why not make one yourself instead?
Anyhoo, that's that.
Free hotdogs over at IA forums! I'll see ya there! ;D
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:05:16 PMAnd who cares if it was unprofessional? This isn't a profession. This is a hobby, that we take seriously.
There is a difference.
If you want to be taken seriously, you need to act in a manner that will be taken seriously. I think Blackthorne's been very professional through this, it's just your posts I take umbrage with.
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:05:16 PMYou know why we don't have time to do good PR? We're too busy making a game.
Yes, I know that. Therefore, I repeat myself: If you don't have time to do good PR, wait until you do. It's not an insult, just a simple statement of thought.
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:05:16 PMMaybe if you were off creating games, you'd see why we get defensive about our games.
Which is why I said, if you put yourself in a position to get feedback from fans, you need to be able to have time to deal with any problems, because some fans will cause problems. If you don't have time to deal with those things, you should do your sanity a favor and keep your project under wraps until you do. Again, I'm not insulting you, just trying to make an observation.
You really could have just left it at Blackthorne's commentary at the start of this, and not reopened a fight.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Broomie: I didn't start things up again, Rambaldi did. I was responding to his post.
Not to mention there's been some issues with people writing posts while others were already posting, putting things a little out of place in some spots.
I never said I didn't have any faith in you guys. I simply took umbrage with Rambaldi's tone and attitude.
Peace & Luv, Liz
*pouts* I looked...I didn't see the free hotdogs :'(
I, too, think the project looks awesome. You guys are doing a great job. Also, the members here have previously heard Say's complaints about nay-sayers. Supposedly (I wouldn't know since I don't have the time to join the PR dept.) criticism has been harsh. This can bog a person down, from what I've seen and heard. I hope you guys keep up the quality of work that I've already seen from ya'll (yes, I'm Southern :P). If ya'll are like the KQ9 team, you will not give us anything less than your best, even if it DOES take longer!
Can't wait!
-Cat
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 01:17:23 PM
If you want to be taken seriously, you need to act in a manner that will be taken seriously. I think Blackthorne's been very professional through this, it's just your posts I take umbrage with.
We approach things differently. In the past, I've been professional. Read past posts on AGS Forums when people have "slammed" us. Or our boards. This FF8 guy rubbed me the wrong way, because, as I said above, I've seen too many fans lately demanding things.
You guys are in no position to demand things. Or be pessimistic. You're not doing anything. We're doing all the work. So stop complaining already!
You're not paying us. We're working for you, for free.
Quote
Yes, I know that. Therefore, I repeat myself: If you don't have time to do good PR, wait until you do. It's not an insult, just a simple statement of thought.
Actually, I think our PR was pretty good. We did a nice announcement on AGDI forums. Someone here posted an innocent link for you guys. Probably a fan and you decided to jump down his throat. And ours! For no reason!
Quote
You really could have just left it at Blackthorne's commentary at the start of this, and not reopened a fight.
Hahaha. You're one to talk.
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Peace & Luv, Liz
Really? Honestly? I mean, you're continuing to fight with me, so I really doubt that sig.
I'm not sure what all those posts were about, so I'll just post what I was going to.
THANK YOU FOR TAKING IT UPON YOURSELVES, TO REMAKE QfG AND KQ3! :thumbsup:
EDIT: and thanks for getting all these people to stay on the forum(there haven't been as many people logged into the forum lately).
Jeysie, I took offense to FF8 guy's tone first and foremost. This was my team that I'm so proud to be a part of, so I get to criticize him however I want. And while I might have been harsh, you'll find nothing inaccurate in what I wrote.
Koko, about the hotdogs, it's a long running IA joke. I'm obssessed with hotdogs. Once I made a joke during a fight online with someone, "I'm sweaty and I need a hotdog" (long story short, there was a fight going on at our boards, and I came home from volleyball and was excited for hotdog team and I hat to respond to that message and that was how I ended it; the rest of it was professional)
Ok, I realise everyone was probably still writing their posts before I posted :P, but I'll just remind everyone again. Keep this conversation civil or it will be locked.
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:14:27 PM
Well thank you for the warm welcome and I will try to stop by now and again (but to post about KQ9, not our own projects). I hope to see you guys over on our forums in the near future to give us updates as well.
Thanks for the invitation! I'll keep your site in mind the next time we promot something. :D
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:14:27 PM
I'm sure you guys can agree: while I might have been harsh, I think you've probably noticed -- as I had -- the amount of backlash from fans lately. Fans who are growing impatient and forgetting the hard work we're doing for THEM. And a lot of project developers -- such as myself -- are sick of it. Instead of criticizing, I'd rather see them put their effort into making a game. Instead of saying, oh, game projects always fall apart boo hoo hoo... why not make one yourself instead?
Trust me, I know exactly how it feels. I've contacted Fatali personally as well to "hose it down a bit". XD And I agree with your statement too which is why I don't usually take criticism personally unless I know it's from someone that can do it any better. :P Most of the time, the critic can't.
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 01:19:42 PM
I didn't start things up again, Rambaldi did.
No, you did! You! Mom!!
QuoteBroomie: I didn't start things up again, Rambaldi did. I was responding to his post.
Ah well let's pretend nothing happened then liz? ;)
QuoteTHANK YOU FOR TAKING IT UPON YOURSELVES, TO REMAKE QfG AND KQ3! :thumbsup:
THAT'S OKAY LOUISIANA! but we are actually making an original QFG type game, not a remake! :P
Yonkey, glad to see how understanding you are. Not what I figured -- which was an unfortunate assumption on my part. Figured you'd yell at me and throw pickles (another LONG IA joke about pickles).
So please do take me up on the invitation. And any other KQ9 fans.
May I ask a question that I'm sure several people are wondering??
Who is Gwydion?
:P
Rambaldi, I still want the free hotdogs :P
Quote from: Broomie on August 30, 2004, 01:25:58 PM
THAT'S OKAY LOUISIANA! BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY MAKING AN ORIGINAL QFG TYPE GAME WHERE YOU TAKE THE ROLE OF THE VILLIAN, NOT A REMAKE! :P
That's even better! ;D
*decides to become a member of Infamous Adventures' forum*
QuoteWho is Gwydion?
Ever played King's Quest 3? ;)
Quote from: Louisiana Night on August 30, 2004, 01:30:29 PM
Quote from: Broomie on August 30, 2004, 01:25:58 PM
THAT'S OKAY LOUISIANA! BUT WE ARE ACTUALLY MAKING AN ORIGINAL QFG TYPE GAME WHERE YOU TAKE THE ROLE OF THE VILLIAN, NOT A REMAKE! :P
That's even better! ;D
*decides to become a member of Infamous Adventures' forum*
Yes, my plan is working!
Oh and welcome to the forums.
Oh great...now ya'll at IA have to worry about LN reviving old threads! :suffer:
:P
QuoteQuote:
Who is Gwydion?
Ever played King's Quest 3?
I mean...who are you?
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:28:17 PM
Figured you'd yell at me and throw pickles (another LONG IA joke about pickles).
LOL! Nah, I like pickles too much to throw them. ;P But seriously, I've "been there, done that" and know what it's like to be on the other side of the fence at forums. It's definitely not as glamorous as it seems. ;-D
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on August 30, 2004, 01:29:33 PM
May I ask a question that I'm sure several people are wondering??
Who is Gwydion?
Gwydion is Alex's name before he knew he was a royal heir. :P
Neil...see my above post :P
Trust me, I know who THE Gwydion is ;D
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 01:21:58 PM
We approach things differently. In the past, I've been professional. Read past posts on AGS Forums when people have "slammed" us. Or our boards. This FF8 guy rubbed me the wrong way, because, as I said above, I've seen too many fans lately demanding things.
You guys are in no position to demand things. Or be pessimistic. You're not doing anything. We're doing all the work. So stop complaining already!
I have read the posts you folks have made in AGDI, and I have read your forums. I didn't get to respond to Fatali's post before Blackthorne did, saying that I had heard of you folks, so I didn't see a need to add anything further in that regard.
QuoteSomeone here posted an innocent link for you guys. Probably a fan and you decided to jump down his throat. And ours! For no reason!
I didn't jump down the poster's throat. I didn't jump down the throat of the question of the team's progress. I did jump down your throat for what I felt was a rude way to deal with criticism, especially when it came after Blackthorne and Fatali calling a truce. It might have simply been a case where other people posted while we were in the middle of writing our posts, so yours and mine posts ended up out of place. Happens.
As for continuing things... I just hate it when I feel like people are misreading me. I didn't make any demands for screenshots or progress. I didn't question credentials. All I said was that I felt Fatali was correct in feeling that the original link post was unprofessional-looking. I also said I thought that the tone of your post was rude, and didn't think it was a good image to put forth for your game.
I was in the middle of typing my post when Blackthorne stated he didn't know who that original poster was, and didn't have time to modify my post before more people reacted to it. And that's it, that's all I commented on. If we're all willing to calm down, then I no longer have anything to criticize. Just don't put words into my mouth I didn't say.
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on August 30, 2004, 01:33:19 PM
Oh great...now ya'll at IA have to worry about LN reviving old threads! :suffer:
:P
Yes, but now this forum is safe... for now :suffer:
HAHAHAHAHAHA At Gwyndion's response above. I didnt even get it at first. LOL
See, what did I tell you? Everyone replied while I was busy typing my post. I think half the weirdness in this thread occurred due to misplaced posts.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Jeysi, we've moved on in case you didn't notice.
I mean, come on, we're talkign about pickles and hot dogs here! I don't have time to discuss PR! (and I work in PR!)
HAHAHAHAHA Happened again Jeysie (btw, that was a laugh at situation, not at you)
QuoteTrust me, I know who THE Gwydion is
So don't keep asking!!
This is insane! :suffer: At least, I think we all understand each other and the situation now!
Thanks you guys for helping me boost my post count! And, Jeysie, keep posting like this and I'll never surpass you! :P
Heh, yeah, while reading someone's post, I hit refresh and 5 new replies appeared! :P
Quote from: Gwydion on August 30, 2004, 01:40:36 PM
QuoteTrust me, I know who THE Gwydion is
So don't keep asking!!
::)
I think we need a new forum rule: If you're making a post over, say, two paragraphs, you must have the thread you're replying to and the "Post Reply" page open at the same time. Then before you hit the "Post" button, you must refresh the thread page to make sure nobody's posted anything in the interim that's going to make you look like an idiot. :D
Peace & Luv, Liz
*counts forums that he's a member of now*
I don't think I'm going to be a regular at all of them. :(
Quote from: Louisiana Night on August 30, 2004, 01:43:39 PM
*counts forums that he's a member of now*
I don't think I'm going to be a regular at all of them. :(
Now who else can we coax to come over and play at the IA boards? hehe
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 01:43:33 PM
I think we need a new forum rule: If you're making a post over, say, two paragraphs, you must have the thread you're replying to and the "Post Reply" page open at the same time. Then before you hit the "Post" button, you must refresh the thread page to make sure nobody's posted anything in the interim that's going to make you look like an idiot. :D
Peace & Luv, Liz
I think the newer version of these forums warns you when there are other new replies in the thread before your post gets posted. :P For now, just make good use of the Preview button. ;-D
There's a PREVIEW button?!?!?!
Next you're going to tell me there's an EDIT button so I can stop double-posting!
:P
Hee!
Well, I'd like to state for the record that I am, in fact, not a b**** on wheels... I just come off that way when everyone's posting so quickly I don't have enough time to properly phrase things before someone else piles more stuff on to deal with. :P
Peace & Luv, Liz
LOL! I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, but just in case... Yeah, there's a modify button in each post that allows you to edit posts. And there's a delete button if you want to delete your post completely. :P
Rambaldi, I hate to be the one to tell you this...but there's an EDIT button... :S
I'd like to point out the fact that I did not KILL Fatali and stuff his body in the trunk of my SUV. He stopped visiting on his own accord. I'm a friendly, non-killing person. I swear!
And single. :-*
EDIT: You have to call it EDIT, not MODIFY. I don't know what the word modify means! What, you think I'm a writer?!?!?
Oh crap, wait, I AM a writer. The head writer over at IA actually.
(runs and hides before BT starts calling me lazy again)
You KILLED Fatali and stuffed him in the trunk of your SUV?? :o How could you!?!?
BTW, if you say you're single, you also have to provide us with your age :P
Oh yeah...do SUVs have trunks?? Hmmm...learn something new everyday.
EDIT: oh, wait...you said you DIDN'T kill Fatali My bad! :P
SUVs have trunks, sort of, but they're bad for storing bodies... if you drive too fast during your getaway the SUV rolls over and the body falls out. No good.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I'm 24. I love short brown hair and deep penetrating blue eyes (ok, ok, they're just blue). And I love long walks on the beach, but only for dumping bodies... er... um, ah geez, uh, who wants to see a free screenshot?!?!?!?!?!?
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 02:01:10 PM
I'm 24. I love short brown hair and deep penetrating blue eyes (ok, ok, they're just blue). And I love long walks on the beach, but only for dumping bodies... er... um, ah geez, uh, who wants to see a free screenshot?!?!?!?!?!?
Screenshots of KQ3+ go here.
If you meant a picture of FataliOmega's corpse, post it here.
This thread (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1520;start=100)
I'm also an imbecile. I'm 23 not 24.
Another uhm, almost-24-year-old, eh?
And Louisiana beat me to telling you post pictures of yourself in the (Silly) Ugly Mug thread. I'm going to go eat worms now.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I'm too lazy to find a pic of me, but I think there's one up on the team section of IA's main site.
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 02:04:19 PM
And Louisiana beat me to telling you post pictures of yourself in the (Silly) Ugly Mug thread.
Peace & Luv, Liz
That's only if it's a FAKE picture of FataliOmega's corpse. XD
I'm now taking bets on how long it will be until Yonkey does a thread split. Bidding starts at a nickel and one post.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Short brown hair here...but no blue eyes...sorry Rambaldi :P
Wow. Such controversy. Don't worry. I love all of you. Will this exclusive screenshot smooth it over?
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/uploads/ss1.jpg)
Aw...... group hug! Hug? Hug? WILL SOMEONE GIVE ME A DAMN HUG! I'M ALONE AND VULNERABLE HERE!
By the way, I'm 26 and my girlfriend loves Sierra games, although she's a Space Quest girl.
Bt
:o
*looks on Infamous Adventures' website, for more pics*
BT, you should have showed the new pirate screenie. That one's incredible!
Quote from: Jeysie on August 30, 2004, 02:06:16 PM
I'm now taking bets on how long it will be until Yonkey does a thread split. Bidding starts at a nickel and one post.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Yeah.. this thread needs a bunch of splitting... 14 pages! But I'll do it later when I have more time. ;D
EDIT: And nice screenshot! :D
Let's leave some for the Imagination. But I will say that is some of the finest work of the game. I'm pissed I didn't make it. But I did make the snow screen.
By the way, that mountain screen is exclusive to the KQ9 site. A good will gesture.
Bt
BT, now look what you did. Everyone over at AGDI is gonna scream, we want an exclusive! Then AGS! Then the Graham/Roger Wilco bass fishing game forums!
WHERE DOES IT END!?!?!?!?!
:P
*gives HUGE huge to BT* You're gf won't get jealous, will she?? Hope not :-*
Rambaldi, who's to say he can't post the pirate one too ;P
Well, in that case, Yonkey, I'll reply here and make your life more miserable. (half j/k)
I am looking forward to "Who Wants to be a Villain?" (Er, IIRC, IA is the one making that, if not, feel free to hit me with a wet noodle.) I'm a Diva of Death, I can appreciate that sort of game.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Who says you guuys have to let the other forums know about the exclusive? :P
Trust me, I'm just as into QFI as I am KQ3. Some of the new Areas I've designed, hopefully, will be quite awesome. They've been developing through many iterations of background art as I've honed my skills. Hopefully by final release, they'll rock. But I recently made a new Blacksmith Shop background that I adore.
Honestly, working on two projects at once actually improves the overall quality of both. One hand washes the other, they say!
And no, I don't think my girlfriend will get jealous! She's pretty cool.
By the way, Louisiana Night, I was born in New Orleans, LA, myself.
Bt
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 30, 2004, 02:19:46 PMTrust me, I'm just as into QFI as I am KQ3.
Never doubted for a moment. Just saying that's the one that perks my bubbles the most. ;)
I want to try my hand at a parody adventure game someday, I have an idea in mind to germinate at some point. (Like, someday a very long way down the road.) My art wouldn't look anything that cool, though. In fact, my background art wouldn't look like anything at all... I can draw tolerable humans, but I can't draw landscapes or backgrounds worth crap. I'd have to beg one of my artist friends. (Fortunately, since they'd be matching my decidedly cartoony character style, it wouldn't exactly be skill-intensive. :P )
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Blackthorne on August 30, 2004, 02:19:46 PM
By the way, Louisiana Night, I was born in New Orleans, LA, myself.
Bt
Nice to meet you!
This probably sounds like a dumb question, but do you know what a Super 1 Foods is?
I'm 15, the goddamned baby of the team! Woe is me!
They've been good so we may aswell show it.
Another exclusive for the people at King's Quest IX forums, well pratically anyone when you think about it, the pirate ship screenie!
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 30, 2004, 02:13:56 PM
BT, now look what you did. Everyone over at AGDI is gonna scream, we want an exclusive! Then AGS! Then the Graham/Roger Wilco bass fishing game forums!
WHERE DOES IT END!?!?!?!?!
:P
Exclusive Graham/Wilco bass fishing? You got it!
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/uploads/bassfish.png)
Heheh.
Bt
*huggles Broomie*
I'd give you a kiss...but the long running joke (ok...maybe it's only an old joke) is that no kisses go to anyone under 16. Sorry... :(
That screenshot reminds me... give my love to LucasFan now that he graces your IA boards. Even if AGDI doesn't like his doctored screenshots, I do. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Where's the bass fishing screenie going? :P
Hehe. No where, I just made it right now as a joke.
Bt
CRAP! See what I did with my running joke abou tbass fishing. Now BT is going to tie me to a chair and make me write a script so we can do FOUR games.
DAMMIT! :P
well then...POO!
:P
Random thought: Can we talk you IA folks into considering joining the rest of our forums on your <insert beverage of choice> breaks?
Peace & Luv, Liz
The Knight's on their forum! :o
*decides to strangle The Knight, till he starts posting in KQ9 again*
P.S. I said nothing about getting him to stop posting in the IA forum.
Sir Dot-A-Lot abandoned us for AGDI a long time ago... I fear any recovery now is a lost cause. Maybe my glomping attempts chased him off.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Okay then, I'll leave him alone, for now... :evil:
*sniff* How could you, Jeysie?? LN, see if you can get him back! That's an order! :P
Well, Bushie likes being glomped... how was I to know that Sir Dot-A-Lot didn't? XD
Peace & Luv, Liz
*unsheathes sword*
CHARGE!! !! !! !!
Ooo!! Exclusives!! Those are great shots, guys! Very nice. And I think you oughta put the bass fishing in there for an easter egg! ;) Heehee.
Glad to see everyone's gotten nice & friendly now! I'll have to see if I can convince Cesar to let us give your forum an exclusive peak in return...
Now that I can see he's not in quite as much green as I thought, it's nice that Gwydion/Alexander decided pink and magenta just weren't his colors. ;)
QuoteGlad to see everyone's gotten nice & friendly now! I'll have to see if I can convince Cesar to let us give your forum an exclusive peak in return...
*waits*
:sleepy:
TheKnight is my B.I.T.C.H. He does whatever I tell him to do.
Hehe. He's not here to defend himself, either.
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/uploads/daventrylongshot.jpg)
Oops. Production artwork ideas.........
Bt
Geez Broomie/BT, why don't you just show them the whole game?!?!?!
First, the mountain pic. Then the pirate. Then the bass fishing. Then the destroyed castle.
What's next? The ultra-top secret easter egg screen of the cut-scene between Graham and Valanice showing us how Alexander was conceived? (Hint: It involves a toaster oven, a used banana peel, and an iPod all in a bomb cellar).
:o another screenie?? Or just a doctored one? :P
No, that's a production piece I made to portray the dragon-ruined Daventry. It's edited from the KQ5 establishing shot. The final game version could be different.
Bt
Quote
give my love to LucasFan now that he graces your IA boards.
They gave me
NOTHING of your love. :'(
LucasFan, they love you.
Signed,
Bt
Hello all, thought I might as well come over here and say Hi as the rest of my hardworking IA team-mates have already done so, (amoungst other things....) Long time lurker, first time poster. Not because I don't like you or anything but because the more forums I post on the less time I spend on creating games. ;D
I must say I am looking forward to KQ9 just slightly ahead of Hero6, though I reakon you guys might finish first!
Anyway, you're all welcome over at IA anytime, and please, take a hotdog and a pickle while you're there.
I'm glad too that everything's been resolved now. Hi, I'm just a visitor. Since someone's requested for a pic of Rambaldi and he's too lazy to get a pic, I'll just point you to this link (http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7114&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=301#301)
Oh, and he's also hoping to get a girlfriend (http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8669). :P
EDIT (By Yonkey): Forum stretching. :P
There's a pic of Rambaldi on the team page of our website. Same goes to all of the IA team.
So many new people...even if they won't get to post often! *waves* You guys have an excuse...you have other gamers forums to frequent and games to make!
I know Swift's posted before...on Erpy's b-day thread. Funny, I can remember that when I can't seem to remember what I did yesterday :P
Quote from: Swift on August 31, 2004, 02:51:26 AMSince someone's requested for a pic of Rambaldi and he's too lazy to get a pic, I'll just point you to this link:
Hmm, not bad.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on August 31, 2004, 05:52:24 AMI know Swift's posted before...on Erpy's b-day thread.
Amazing. I'm impressed by your memory skills! :D
*waves back*
I remembered you posting there...and I had moved to AGDI to post the link over there and you were posting in that thread too. The combination of seeing your name here and there is what helped me to remember! :P That and when I do make it over to AGDI, your posts are in about every thread I read :P
Haha, you say that now Swift ;) It just takes dedication. I gave up on trying to maintain a top spot long ago!
Ahh, so now we know who the forum Gwydoin is -LucasFan! :idea:
Now, KQ3 folks, I have a very important question, and I think Jeysie will agree with me on that-- are we going to get to see Alex's birthmark at long last or what? :flirt:
Rambaldi! All that barking and look at that, you're a cutie! ;)
Dedication?? *snort* How about being so bored that you visit the forum about every hour and reply to every post you can contribute to? That's how my life is right now :P
Welcome Klitos! ;D
I've now made this thread an official KQ3 one! ;D The first part of the other thread was mainly KQ3+ Suggestions. :P
I am so slow. Just realised that you split the thread topic
after I posted. Heh.
Thanks for the link, koko. Interesting read.
Katie, yeah, it takes a lot of dedication. I learnt that recently at the h6 forums. Spent lots of time posting there till I rose from 9th place to 6th place within a week, and now the forums are completely cluttered. ;D
Quote from: KatieHal on August 31, 2004, 08:17:16 AMare we going to get to see Alex's birthmark at long last or what? :flirt:
*anxiously waits for the official answer.
Wow, I never thought that after posting that thread over on AGDI about getting me a nice lady, I'd get not one, but TWO comments about being cute. Oooh ooh, blushing kicking in.
No wait, that's the hangover. ;D
Quote from: Rambaldi0503 on August 31, 2004, 08:47:34 AM
Wow, I never thought that after posting that thread over on AGDI about getting me a nice lady, I'd get not one, but TWO comments about being cute. Oooh ooh, blushing kicking in.
No wait, that's the hangover. ;D
And you owe it all to me! :P
So that's the official KQ3VGA Thread, eh?
Quote from: Gwydion on August 31, 2004, 08:56:51 AM
So that's the official KQ3VGA Thread, eh?
Yup! ;D Or you can think of it as the thread with KQ3VGA officials in it. ;P
Ooh, the ladies LOVE the Rambaldi!
Of course you're cute, dude. Why do you think we let YOU on the team? You have to butter the folks up with your suave charm and good looks.
Oh yeah, take your Zoloft.
He's just very protective of us, folks. He's that lovable pit-bull. With more teeth. And drool.
Anyway..... The OFFICIAL KQ3VGA thread. I'm psyched.
Bt
:o BT, never EVER call me cute again. :P
Yeah BT...there has been a previous debate on this forum. Guys don't like to be called cute...they like to be called "hot!"...
*leaves the post like that*
:P
I think he's just more upset cause I'm a dude, and I called him cute.
It's okay, Rambaldi..... get in touch with your FEEELINGGS!!!!!!!
Hehehe. :suffer:
Bt
I'm kind of bored so I think I'm just gonna reply to this thread and sort of ramble until I think of something cool to say. This could be a VERY long post. :P
I've read some stuff about QfI on AGDI forums (and OMG that's a lot of those thingies...that are letters...and stand for stuff....that end in I!) (shut up, I'm tired! :P) and I thought it was a great idea. And, as like the entire universe knows, any remake of KQ3 is gonna get me all excited and happy and YAY! Because it's a cool game, cooler than KQ2 ever was (the original, not KQ2+).
Yeah, so I didn't read this whole thread, but there was something about hot dogs and pickles over at the IA forums. I may have to join them. Just for the pickles (I can't eat hot dogs...but if you have hamburgers...). But then, maybe not. It depends on whether or not I feel like inflicting my insanity and twerpness upon you! :suffer:
I wonder if anyone is actually still reading this. If I were me (which I am, so that's good) I would've stopped reading way up at the top when I said "ramble". That's like a red flag that this post is TOTALLY useless and should be ignored. In fact, that's it. I'm gonna stop writing it now, that's how useless it is!
EDIT: GAH! I forgot, I can't eat pickles either! DARN YOU STOMACH O' MINE!!
Welcome to the forum, Rambaldi, Blackthorne, Gwydion & Broomie!! ;D
I can't believe I missed the whole almost-flame-war thing! I always pick the darndest times to go back to RL :(
I've first heard about QFI & AI on the AGDI forum... didn't know you were doing a KQ3 remake as well up to just now though. The screenshots here and on your site look awesome - hope I get to play through them someday ;)
BTW, congrats on getting LucasFan to work on Sierra-style games! from what I saw of him, he's devilishly talented 8)
Quote from: Storm on September 03, 2004, 07:53:05 PMBTW, congrats on getting LucasFan to work on Sierra-style games! from what I saw of him, he's devilishly talented 8)
"Devilish" being the operative term, from what I've read of his posts. ;-D
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on September 03, 2004, 08:03:06 PM
Quote from: Storm on September 03, 2004, 07:53:05 PMBTW, congrats on getting LucasFan to work on Sierra-style games! from what I saw of him, he's devilishly talented 8)
"Devilish" being the operative term, from what I've read of his posts. ;-D
Peace & Luv, Liz
That word fits his posts in the IA forum better.
'baldi? BlackThorne? Broomie? Heh, its a small world. ;D
QuoteI'm surrounded by posting kings and queens here.
Guess whos come to pass by you again? ;D Don't give me that look. It makes me nervous. :sweating:
Welcome to the forums, Jafar! So that's what you meant by "Maybe I already have"! I can't believe you've already outpost me here! And you joined way after!
I'm like a bad penny, I always turn up. ;D
Quote from: Louisiana Night on September 03, 2004, 10:53:14 PM
Quote from: Jeysie on September 03, 2004, 08:03:06 PM"Devilish" being the operative term, from what I've read of his posts. ;-D
That word fits his posts in the IA forum better.
Yah, that's what I meant... his posts at AGDI and IA. :D
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote"Devilish" being the operative term, from what I've read of his posts.
Just wait until you discover all the sexist eastereggs BT & Co. put into KQ3VGA. I'm a choirboy compared to the IA guys...
*decides to wait for a list of how to get to the easter eggs, before playing KQ3VGA, so he can avoid them*
Don't be afraid. The public version of KQ3VGA will be family-friendly. The adult version is only for paying customers... ;D
Cool avatar, LF! :suffer:
Lucasfan? Why am I not suprised. ::)
It is amazing the things you learn on this site! ::)
it's a small world after all :D
Quote from: Gwydion on September 05, 2004, 02:53:27 AM
Don't be afraid. The public version of KQ3VGA will be family-friendly. The adult version is only for paying customers... ;D
Haha! Love the avatar. Now who is it who's flashing her?
Hmm, strictly speaking, it's kind of totally illegal to charge for *any* version, adult or no... though I'm not sure if you were just joking or not.
Quote from: KatieHal on September 07, 2004, 07:03:35 AMHaha! Love the avatar. Now who is it who's flashing her?
It's the flasher from LSL 8)
No, he's the "Father" from KQ2VGA+. We decided to give the father-thing a completely new direction in KQ3VGA.
Quote from: Gwydion on September 07, 2004, 04:06:28 PM
No, he's the "Father" from KQ2VGA+. We decided to give the father-thing a completely new direction in KQ3VGA.
The best idea I ever heard! :suffer:
You mean "Gwydion" is no longer a midget? :o And here I thought he just had major reconstructive surgery between KQ3 and KQ6... :-\
QuoteYou mean "Gwydion" is no longer a midget? And here I thought he just had major reconstructive surgery between KQ3 and KQ6...
I think he was wearing clogs. hehe :)
Oh, no, they were definitely platforms. Alex is actually a huge fan of the Spice Girls. :P
Committing some Necromancy here, but just giving an update here for those who don't get around to IA....
Production on KQ3 VGA is going really well. We have an artist that is working on the project, drawing dialogue pictures. Meerbat has drawn some nice pieces of art for the game, and there is a picture of one on the main IA site - but as an exclusive for you unique KQ9 folk, here's a pic by him.
Work continues on the game, and I'm getting really excited as we are testing early versions of the game, and the sprite and animation work swings into full stage. I think our version of King's Quest III will really make fans of the game appreciate it. Our remake is esentially a 1:1 remake, but with a few embelishments such as close ups and cut-scenes, to give it a feel more like KQ5 and KQ6.
So, keep in touch with us, and always feel free to write me. Take care!
Bt
Infamous Adventures
http://www.infamous-adventures.com
Nice! He reminds me a bit of a dude that won Survivor. ;D
kwel drawing!! ;)
btw what Survivor Neil, I think there would be around 23847 different survivors by now :P
I think his name was Rupert? The one that looked like a pirate. XD
Quote from: Blackthorne on November 18, 2004, 02:50:56 PM
Committing some Necromancy here, but just giving an update here for those who don't get around to IA....
Production on KQ3 VGA is going really well. We have an artist that is working on the project, drawing dialogue pictures. Meerbat has drawn some nice pieces of art for the game, and there is a picture of one on the main IA site - but as an exclusive for you unique KQ9 folk, here's a pic by him.
Work continues on the game, and I'm getting really excited as we are testing early versions of the game, and the sprite and animation work swings into full stage. I think our version of King's Quest III will really make fans of the game appreciate it. Our remake is esentially a 1:1 remake, but with a few embelishments such as close ups and cut-scenes, to give it a feel more like KQ5 and KQ6.
So, keep in touch with us, and always feel free to write me. Take care!
Bt
Infamous Adventures
http://www.infamous-adventures.com
Awesome, I'm looking forward to the completed version! ;D
Richard Hatch, Neil? ???
Nah, that was some other creepy guy. :P
Then I have no idea who you're talking about. But I think the picture looks cool! I can't wait! >hops up and down impatiently<
Could it be true?
http://www.infamous-adventures.com/kq3.html
From what I hear, it is. There's a thread somewhere around here about KQ3+VGA or something like that...
LN! Get in here and find the thread :P
Cat, you bum! It was on page one! XD
KQ3VGA (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=12;action=display;threadid=1587) ::)
Maybe so, but I was feeling a little lazy! :P
Merged. :)
Thanks, Neil! My Our hero! :P
Geez louise, do ya have to bring this into the forums too? ::)
Quote from: altair on February 05, 2005, 01:41:58 PM
Could it be true?
http://www.infamous-adventures.com/kq3.html
I like your thundercats logo. Does anyone know who to write to get the original 130, I think Thundercat episodes released on DVD?
Also, will 98SE be supported with KQIII+ or will it just be XP PRO? My dual-boot with customized boot.ini has both but I was just wondering. I am hoping for a Christmas 2005 release because I saw the website was aiming for a late 2005 release. I betcha this game gets done before KQIX. LOL!! :suffer:
Quote from: dew7 on February 19, 2005, 07:45:43 AMAlso, will 98SE be supported with KQIII+ or will it just be XP PRO? My dual-boot with customized boot.ini has both but I was just wondering. I am hoping for a Christmas 2005 release because I saw the website was aiming for a late 2005 release. I betcha this game gets done before KQIX. LOL!! :suffer:
I'm not related to IA in any way (to their great relief, I'm sure) But since they're using AGS (which supports both Win98 and WinXP) for KQ3VGA, I guess it's safe to answer "yes" on that one ::)
Thanks Storm. :>
Quote from: Questing Character on January 09, 2005, 12:05:26 PM
Richard Hatch, Neil? ???
...why did "A Giant Space Amoeba, Spock?" pop into my head when I read that? XD
Melonpool rocks! ;D
Okay, back on topic...
Our teasers may not be as impressive as yours, but still if it's okay we'd like to share our brand new teaser for KQ3 here.
Click here to view it. (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=kq3tease)
Tell me what you think! :)
That looks awesome! I'm very intruiged/excited and hyped up on this, due to the trailer ;P
I wonder though, where that music is from? I don't recognize it (from what i remember with my poor memory :( :))
That's looking pretty coolio. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for sharing, Bromios! :)
I actually was pretty impressed with IA's screenshot, especially comparing it to the KQ3's cheesy 16-colour version. ;D
This is just a suggestion, but for future teasers, you should show more of your work (i.e. screenshots or whatever else IA's developed)! It definitely outshines the original KQ3. 8)
We've been INVADED BY PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW! I should really post here more...
Anyhow, looks good guys; I'm a believer, and I wish you guys the best in putting it out.
LOL XD
Greetings uselessidguy331 ;)
Quote from: Bromios on July 10, 2005, 09:04:08 AM
Our teasers may not be as impressive as yours, but still if it's okay we'd like to share our brand new teaser for KQ3 here.
a 16 color broken down house on top of a mountain turns into a 16+ million colored mansion :D
*adds that to "Things to play during summer" ;-D
(and before I confuse anyone, november-January(?) periodo is summer in the southern hemisphere ;) )
Gosh guys! I can't wait! I'm going to be SO busy with school, but surely I'll have time to fit both games into my schedule (some late nights, I'm sure) :P
Thank you for the great comments, guys and gals.
Quote from: Lock, War. on July 10, 2005, 10:03:45 AMI wonder though, where that music is from? I don't recognize it (from what i remember with my poor memory :( :))
That's because it's brand new, remade from the old KQ3 tune to today's standards.
Quote from: Yonkey on July 10, 2005, 05:21:21 PM
This is just a suggestion, but for future teasers, you should show more of your work (i.e. screenshots or whatever else IA's developed)! It definitely outshines the original KQ3. 8)
Yes we shall be saving that for the *trailer* coming very soon. 8)
That's pretty impressive then, I was quite taken by that tune so.. heh.. awesome work! :)
It's sad to know this project wont come out until winter like KQ9 which I am also upset about. But it's cool becuase I got to draw close up scenes for KQ3 and I will be voicing a small part in KQ3 with the premission of Klitos that is. I'm so happy this is being made! THREE CHEERS FOR INFAMOUS ADVENTURES! :D
Three chears for the King´s Quest series! :D
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on August 30, 2004, 02:31:07 PM
*huggles Broomie*
I'd give you a kiss...but the long running joke (ok...maybe it's only an old joke) is that no kisses go to anyone under 16. Sorry... :(
So Koko... how about that kiss? (just silly old me looking through the pages of this topic, how it raised eyebrows and anger until it was finally loved)
Thanks for the great comments guys. We all love you.
It looks great Broomie, especailly the trailer.
Was the trailer made with Windows Media Player 2? (That's what I made my KQIX FOREVER trailer with.) Also, has it been canceled as was KQIX?
This was a remake, like the ADGI remakes. Chances are, it was allowed to continue.
Like the AGDI remake's of QFG2? :P
Awesome! I was waiting for some new screenies on IA...
(Yes I'm a IA onlooker as well as checking The Silver Lining and AGDI everyday.Loved KQI, KQII+.)
P.S. If anybody wants to help me with Tom Sops: The Untamed Eye! or A Fool's Errand.(Or mabey get me to draw some simple sprites for them just E-mail me.) ;D
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/images/kq3beta2.PNG)
ANNOUNCEMENT: KING'S QUEST III NEEDS BETA TESTERS - PLEASE READ
You thought this day would never come, but the production of King's Quest III has come to the point where the lucky citizens of Adventure Town pitch in and lend a hand to condemn theirselves to the dungeons... the BETA testing dungeons. That's right, Infamous Adventures are looking for eager and experienced beta testers to relinquish their bug finding skills in their brand new, debut adventure game, King's Quest III: To Heir is Human.
Are you who we're looking for? Who knows, but we'll need a little info before they put the names into the sorting hat. If you've got the time and are willing to help in our quest to hunt down those pesky bugs then listen carefully!
What we are looking for are people who are motivated, experienced and have an eye for the linguistic details. Not only that but people who'd spent at least 10-15 minutes on each screen looking, interacting and talking with almost anything on the screen, plus an eye for the details that could even be improved.
Think you're that kind of person? Well, get in line and send them an application with the following details:
- Full Name or Nickname
- System Specs
- Education
- Any experience with Beta testing
- Favourite GameAnd last but not least, we'd like to know about you. Write a small paragraph about yourself and why you'd like to beta test King's Quest III, along with the kind of person you are when it comes to testing. Do you tend to cover one aspect, such as concentrating on the spelling and grammar, or do you just go crazy with the mouse looking for the slightest mess up?
Well, we'd love to hear from you. Please send in your applications to beta@infamous-adventures.com (beta@infamous-adventures.com) with the subject "Beta Testing Application" in the subject title by the
15th of February. Any later, and I'm afraid you're a wee too late, sonny.
Each application will be read and studied, a select few will be chosen so please don't get your hopes up. Each selected member will be emailed soon after so those lucky (or unlucky ones) ones will help in taking up the task of eliminating the scum of the game. Bugs.
Congratulations! That's awesome that you guys are now in the beta testing stage. :) Unfortunately, I don't have any time to help you guys out, but I am looking forward to playing the game once it's out! ;D
Grammar.... ;P
I'm slightly obsessed with grammar. :P
...Yeah! ;) Nice job guys! I would enjoy doing it but I think I might be too busy... :-\ I do look forward to playing it though! Good luck and lets hope it comes out soon! I think that beta testing would be pretty hardand long for me to do although I do enjoy adventure games a lot! (Beta testing for TSL would take pretty long too!)
I'm really good at finding bugs in games and would love to beta test, but unfortunately I don't have the time at the moment. :-\
Seriously looking forward to it's release though, can't wait! :D
That's wonderful news, Broomie! :D
I love the improvements made to the original song from KQIII!! ;D ;D
(I know this is a little late to be saying that, but, oh well. ::))
Hmmm....the IA Site is down (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=home)....I wonder if this means that KQIII is finished and becoming released....
Actually, they're down because some hacker messed up their forum. :-\ They're currently working on restoring everything again. :)
That's bad!
Yeah - we had a run in with a destructive little dude. Sigh. Anyway, it's going to cost a little bit of moolah to restore the database. I hope to have it done by weeks end.
Just goes to show next time, I'll have more backups.
Thanks for all the support.
Bt
That sucks, but at least you know who did it and can site ban his IP or something. But more importantly, did you find out how he did it so that he (or his "3l33t" friends ::)) can't do it again?
Luckily, we haven't experienced anything like that here, but we have had servers expectedly die on us in the past, resulting in forum data loss. It's certainly not fun, and the only way to really be safe is to make backups regularly.
Quote from: Blackthorne on March 22, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
Yeah - we had a run in with a destructive little dude. Sigh. Anyway, it's going to cost a little bit of moolah to restore the database. I hope to have it done by weeks end.
Just goes to show next time, I'll have more backups.
Thanks for all the support.
Bt
Meanie.
Quote from: Blackthorne on March 22, 2006, 12:15:38 PM
Yeah - we had a run in with a destructive little dude. Sigh. Anyway, it's going to cost a little bit of moolah to restore the database. I hope to have it done by weeks end.
Just goes to show next time, I'll have more backups.
Thanks for all the support.
Bt
Well, I noticied that your site is mostly up again except for the main page. Any further idea when we can except it to be fully running again.
Anyone know why the Infamous Adventures site is down? I know they were close in completing KQ3 remake. It would be a shame if they were shut down.
mmm duh.. i'm so blond for posting before searching a topic.. ooops my bad guys.
The main page of the site is still down. I guess this will probably delay the KQ3VGA. It surprises me that someone would be so mean to attack their site when these people are working on updating an older KQ game and delivering to people for FREE --- will mean people ever cease to be
it seems that beta testing is about to begin on it, or has by this point. Thier forum said they closed beta testing application on April 16th
Well I got my rejection letter, so they chose the testers. :P
At least they're moving along.
Quote from: Rosella on April 17, 2006, 06:57:54 AM
Well I got my rejection letter, so they chose the testers. :P
I'm sorry that you didn't get it.
Meh, it's no big deal. :P
Now beta-testing for TSL on the other hand... :P
If I were to betatest TSL, I'd try to screw it up as best as possible. ;-D
*makes one of the characters go nuts and destroys a bunch of houses*
Quote from: Oldbushie on April 18, 2006, 06:07:20 AM
If I were to betatest TSL, I'd try to screw it up as best as possible. ;-D
*makes one of the characters go nuts and destroys a bunch of houses*
You do realize that you can't play as Connor, don't you? :P
Now if Alexander could destroy houses....:P
I just tried the website and saw that it was back up and running.
:D
yeah they just had an update as well. Looks like things are going well and a release date just around the corner
KQ3 has a new forum (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/forum/index.php).
Woo! It's SMF! XD
Hooray! *clicks around it* :D
wicked... anyone know of any specific yet?
I noticed a new blog entry last night on their myspace, dated June 9th. He mentions KQIII looking great and won't be long "AT ALL" before it is out. Then the best part, however, is that he gives us a time frame for the game's release:
I'm going to say not less than 5 days but not more than 30.
I'm excited! O_O
blog entry: http://tinyurl.com/zq5cy
Oh wow, that's great! I can't wait to find the time to play it after it's released! Thanks for telling us, J-Rod!
Woohoo! :D
*dances in joy*
KQIIIVGA is out!!!!!
That's right, the long damn wait is over. I smile with joy as I type these words in, thinking if this day was ever to come. The production is over, the testers are done and everything is ready to go. King's Quest III has finally been released. Remember this date, the 19th of June. The day KQ3 was released!
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/images/kq3banner.png)
It’s been twenty years since the evil wizard Manannan first appeared on our computer screens, but now, thanks to the hard work and dedication of the team at Infamous Adventures, he’s back!
Kings Quest 3 : To Heir is Human was first released by Sierra On-Line back in 1986. As the second sequel to the hugely popular and successful Kings Quest series, it fast became a fan favourite. Roberta Williams, author of the Kings Quest series, broke new ground in computer games, introducing players to the magic map concept (making travel quicker between screens), timed puzzles and an in-depth spell casting system. All these things are standard fare in today’s games, but were original concepts in 1986.
Unfortunately, due to the advances made in computer technology over the last twenty years, such classic games no longer run on the modern computer. It was with this in mind that Infamous Adventures decided to remake this game, bringing it up to the quality of Kings Quest 5 & 6. Klytos, Executive Producer of IA’s Kings Quest 3 had this to say. “We just love this game and felt that even twenty years later the story was relevant and, more importantly, still fun. We wanted to introduce a new generation of gamers to this classic and show older players who remember the original something new and special. We think we’ve done this, but it’s up to the fans to tell us what they think.â€
Boasting all new full VGA backgrounds, enhanced hand-drawn close up cut-scenes, dialog portraits for all the characters, original music by our professional composer, full speech pack (including narrator) and a new point-and-click interface, make Infamous Adventures’ remake of Kings Quest III one of the best remakes on the fan-game market. And the best part is, it’s free!
Re-experience this timeless adventure now at www.infamous-adventures.com.
We would love to give a huge thanks to everyone involved in this project, too many to name but you know who you are. Yet that's not it, it's you the fans who kept us going. We would love to give you the biggest of thanks out of anyone, I mean if we just had tumbleweed as support I don't think we'd have got very far. Anyway, I know you want to play the game. Well, go right ahead.
DOWNLOAD KING'S QUEST III NOW! (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=kq3)
The voice pack will be released next week, we didn't want you guys to wait any longer. Don't worry, you won't have to redownload the game just for the voice pack. Just simply add the file to the program and boom, you're off!
Again, I'd like to say thanks to everyone who contributed, whether it be the team or the fans, this game is for you. Enjoy.
Awesome! :D Thanks Broomie!!!
That's fabulous! I cannot believe I'm reading this… :)! I cannot wait to play it, though I'll be able to do it only in 6 hours or so… gotta go to work now.
Anyway, this is great news. Thanks IA, thanks Broomie! :) ;)
YAY!! ;D
I'm at work now, but I can't wait to get home and d/l it! 8)
Thanks IA, for all your hard work - especially Broomie for keeping us here updated ;)
TBH I never thought it would be finished this soon... Hopefully, other games will follow suit *wink, wink* *nudge, nudge* ;P
Quote from: Storm on June 19, 2006, 04:32:26 AM
Hopefully, other games will follow suit *wink, wink* *nudge, nudge* ;P
Okay, okay, we'll work harder on the Jarada game. ;P
Congrats Broomie! ;D
I won't be able to play it until I have some free time (which may not happen for a few months ;P) but great job nonetheless! :)
It's downloading now. (50%)
Maybe it's just my computer, but the speed is incredibly slow. :P It's also faster when I put it toward the middle than when I put it at the top. XD
Overall, it is a really good job though, guys. The graphics are AWESOME. :D
Well I'm going on vacation later this week and don't really have the time to play it just now, but I'm looking forwards to it.
I'll enjoy adding new material to the Omnipedia from the game.
Just finished it!! ;D
Awesome remake, but too short - it was over too soon ;)
[spoiler]Watch out for the Easter Egg in Gwydion's room! Don't forget to save first![/spoiler]
There's very little activity on these boards today, so I take it that everyone is busy playing KQ3VGA.
Good guess... that game parctically killed the activity on all boards, save the IA boards, naturally :P
Congrats, Storm. I guess it wasn't too difficult, seeing that you had beaten the original far too many times 8) :P
Less spam to read & clean is always good news. ;P
Quote from: Yonkey on June 20, 2006, 05:16:21 AM
Less spam to read & clean is always good news. ;P
Aww...:'( *misses spam*
Quote from: Storm on June 19, 2006, 03:22:03 PM
Just finished it!! ;D
Awesome remake, but too short - it was over too soon ;)
[spoiler]Watch out for the Easter Egg in Gwydion's room! Don't forget to save first![/spoiler]
Where is the easter egg? Oh and it looks GREAT!
Quote from: awesomeasapossum on June 20, 2006, 07:02:00 AMWhere is the easter egg?
[spoiler]Click on the tapestry just outside Gwydion's room. You should get an amusing QFG message. Click on it again and again, until you get teleported to Baba Yaga's hut.
Be sure to save your game first! having the mirror doesn't help any ;)[/spoiler]
XD
*goes to try that*
BTW, is anyone else having trouble showing the mirror to Medusa?
I couldn't actually find Medusa, so I gave up. :P
Medusa & Mirror
[spoiler]When you are on the screen, make sure you're facing to the right/east. You can't be facing North or South. I had to get help from the IA forums for that one :P[/spoiler]
There's a bug or error in my download of the KQ3 Remake. The Bandits come, where they're supposed to...But then they show up in every screen, and seem to follow me wherever I go, but they dont do anything to me, they simply like bounce around. Even when I teleported back up the mountain (Which, the map shouldnt bring me right to Mannanan's door either) they were there too! It's quite annoying.
You should report bugs on their site, not here. :P
I finished downloading! :D
Now to play...
Quote from: Deloria on June 20, 2006, 11:48:53 AM
XD
*goes to try that*
BTW, is anyone else having trouble showing the mirror to Medusa?
[spoiler]Face EAST when you enter the desert :)[/spoiler]
EDIT: Please use spoiler tags. 8)
Thanks :)
http://www.infamous-adventures.com/index.php?page=kq3
Looks awsome! Enjoy...its free!
I finished the game, and got to see the easter egg. :D
They didn't stay true to the original though, you can't kiss or hug Rosella or show her your birthmark. ::) And she's not nearly as well endowed either.
Quote from: Oldbushie on June 22, 2006, 09:49:53 AM
I finished the game, and got to see the easter egg. :D
They didn't stay true to the original though, you can't kiss or hug Rosella or show her your birthmark. ::)
Maybe the end was cut short to make room for the long ending sequence... At least they didn't make you walk down those stairs with her, that was one part I didn't miss ::)
Quote from: Oldbushie on June 22, 2006, 09:49:53 AMAnd she's not nearly as well endowed either.
Yeah, I expected better of IA ;P
There are also new scenes
Also you can't kick the cat either.
Quote from: Baggins on June 23, 2006, 09:35:39 AM
Also you can't kick the cat either.
LOL, you can kick cats in the original? XD
What happens when you try to kick it here?
You can't kick it here. But try typing "kill cat" or "kiss cat" in the original. :P
I'm having trouble getting the chicken, even after feeding them, it says "The varmint scoots out of reach"
[spoiler]Maybe you just need to get closer. ;)[/spoiler]
Thanks :D :P
You can kick the cat in the original, and you can certainly kick it here! :evil:
The thing is, it can only be done after you take the cat hair ;)
[spoiler]I've heard some people talk about a Mordack scene, does anyone know when that happens. I really don't have the patience to stick around for two days :P[/spoiler]
In answer to Deloria's spoiler
[spoiler]On his third trip, Manannan goes to visit his brother and you get a cut scene.[/spoiler]
Okay. :P Thanks. :)
looks great ive been doign good just downloaded it and installed it but i have soem trouble...how do you get the cat hair?
I lot of your questions will be answered in the IA Forums. But since you probably won't "feel" like doing a simple thing like that here's your answer. ::)
How come you can't get the cat hair. Well as Gwydion you have to ask yourself, Why do you want the hair? It's not like you need it for anything
like if you had read that you did in a book.
Also if you want a full walkthough for the game head over here:
http://geocities.com/dbs_peppy/
Check under walkthroughs and you'll get my full version walkthough 1.0.
Seeing as I'm a big Alexander fan I had to beat it right away. And since I was going to be one of the first people to beat it.(Not counting Beta Testers :P ) I decided to take the extra time to write out a walkthrough. Right now it's only 1.0 so I'll add single Item hints and easter eggs later.
Also since this game is the first version it has a lot of bugs. My walkthrough should get you through without any problems, but if not you can PM me and I'll tell you all the workarounds I did to beat it.
I didn't include them in the walkthrough because They're making a patch and as soon as it came out I'd have to mod the whole thing.
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Dirk
Quote from: Storm on June 24, 2006, 01:31:32 PM
You can kick the cat in the original, and you can certainly kick it here! :evil:
The thing is, it can only be done after you take the cat hair ;)
Correction: apparently, it's a different condition - you can only kick the cat when Manannan is gone. I got it wrong because of the timing ::)
The game looks really cool! ;D ;D :james: :cesar:
*waits patiently for the speech pack* :P
Well finally completed it. Not sure why it was described as a 1:1 remake, cause well its certainly not one to one, it has plenty of new material, and alterations from the original storyline, puzzles, mechanics and other official material.
Have to say I really enjoyed it and loved coming across the new stuff.
Personally I found the spell system to be a bit too easy. I think I'd have loved a bit more mechanical system where you had to add each ingredient individually, while working from the table. This system had no urgency, where in the old game you were racing against the clock to complete spells, in hopes that Manannan wouldn't return and find you.
Also I was a bit surprised by the map system too, making the game automatically take you to the top of the mountain. That was another area that added to the urgency and racing against the clock.
If anything I found the clock to be burdonsome in this version of the game, since I wasn't really being rushed... I'd get everything done in matter of minute or two, and then have to wait 20 minutes for Manannan to return, or leave... That became rather boring... It got to the point I'd just walk out of the room get a snack, and come back much later to see if Manannan had returned.
At least in the old game I utilized much of the time actually typing out commands...
As for where the story, maps, etc differ from the original game? Well I've broken as many down as possible over in the King's Quest Omnipedia, be sure to check it out. I had alot of fun trying to find where the game differed the most from previous version.
I like the touches like when you click on Gwydion enough, he says "I wish I had an owl to keep me company." or when you find the skull in the desert that says, "No boot, though."
I can't believe i missed this *starts downloading* :stabs:
Quote from: koko_99_2001 on June 24, 2006, 01:40:26 PM
In answer to Deloria's spoiler
[spoiler]On his third trip, Manannan goes to visit his brother and you get a cut scene.[/spoiler]
[spoiler]He goes on more than one trip?[/spoiler]
Only if you don't turn him into cat early.
I was hoping KQ3 remake would have a cool new plot like AGDI's KQ2+. I was hoping to see Count Caldaur, Hagatha and the Father. Also, in the desert, after you defeat Medusa, she says "Sisters, avenge me!" But you never meet her gorgon sisters anywhere in the game. Perhaps they will be in future games?
Hmm...well, IA did say they were making a one-to-one remake, so by adding the characters who were not in the original series would keep it from being a one-to-one remake ;)
Well its not exactly a 1:1 remake as it is, they added in a bunch of characters that weren't in the original KQ3. For example that woman that kidnaps Alexander.
Thus they added several new or extended scenes that were not in the original version of the game.
Its more of a 1 to 1 1/2 remake, or a 120% remake.
I think it's more like a 1:1.1 remake ;) Sure, the added some new cutscenes, dialogue lines, easter eggs etc., but the game itself plays exactly the same - you don't get to interact with any of the new characters, there are no new puzzles, and you can basically use the same walkthrough you used for the original. The changes they made are mostly 'cosmetic'.
Quote from: Storm on July 25, 2006, 06:55:06 AM
I think it's more like a 1:1.1 remake ;) Sure, the added some new cutscenes, dialogue lines, easter eggs etc., but the game itself plays exactly the same - you don't get to interact with any of the new characters, there are no new puzzles, and you can basically use the same walkthrough you used for the original. The changes they made are mostly 'cosmetic'.
...with the biggest change being the removal of The Birthmark.
Quote...with the biggest change being the removal of The Birthmark.
You can't conjure up a storm on the ship either. ;)
Quote from: Elessar on July 25, 2006, 08:48:41 AM
...with the biggest change being the removal of The Birthmark.
What's that birthmark thing? I've tried typing "SHOW BIRTHMARK" to Rosella with two versions of the original KQ3, and nothing happens. What am I supposed to do?
Just type "talk princess" several times. :P
That did it. Thanks!
Quotethere are no new puzzles, and you can basically use the same walkthrough you used for the original. The changes they made are mostly 'cosmetic'.
Actually they changed a few puzzles. You can't get certain spell items before reading the book like you could in the original.
Also the map of Llewdor was changed a bit, map of Daventry was changed around alot.
The way the magic map functions was changed alot.
I still think its more than .1% in length with new stuff. Much of the new material extended the game and its storyline quite a bit.
You do realize the reason we didn't want to change anything in the storyline was because the it didn't need any change. It's considered one of the best in the series and when making it we felt that the story doesn't need to be altered because it's good as it is.
We changed a few things yet we didn't want to tamper with a classic to much, we're happy with what we've done and you'll love the game even better when the patch and the voice pack comes out.
I'm actually kinda glad you guys didn't tamper with storyline. I hadn't played the original, so I'm looking forward to playing this one! ;D
The only thing preventing me is lack of time. :P
There is actually a tiny bit of tampering with the storyline. A few examples, the intro is quite a bit different. The oracle scene has some big differences, and the ending is quite a bit different.
But its not so blatent like KQ2 remake was. The kept much closer to the theme of the story, even though they may have altered/added dialogue and other changes.
Blatent or not, I trust that all changes made from the original were made for a reason. The original KQ2 had pretty much 0 plot, so the changes AGDI made to it were excellent IMO. I'm sure that whatever changes IA has made in KQ3+ are great. :)
We didn't alter the story in any way, we just explained a few parts better. For example, in the original KQ, alot of people were confused on first play why you were playing as a slave and not King Graham, it was only until you play into it you realize you're Alexander. We just wanted to add a little something to show that this isn't is home and he is from somewhere else. Originally we did plan to use a very big scene which involved the Royal Family but we decided against it.
The cutscene, again is to explore into the storyline abit more. All we know what happened in the original was that she was sacrificed to the three headed dragon, but we only get that through text and a tiny animation. We thought we could spice it up and abit and show the emotion and stress of King Graham as he lets his daughter go. We had the resources to do it, so why not!
Other scenes like the Manannan and Mordack scene, is again explains deeper into the story. The origin of Manannan and what his purpose with Gwydion is. It's a very rare cutscene and it only happens on Manannan third and final trip, this is unless you turn him into a cat when he returns from his first trip.
And the ending? We thought it was kinda rushed in the original, as they just stand there waiting for the hat. In this we wanted Alex to get used to his surroundings and see an estranged father and son getting to know each other.
So yeah, we changed the way it is displayed in soem parts but we still kept true to the original. Tierra/AGDI only did this with KQ2 but the storyline was very blank and plain, and if you played it in the original it's very VERY random and was considered not the best in the series. I was impressed with what they did with the remake yet I feel it was the only EGA game which deserved a storyline alteration. The others should be kept well alone. I know it's nice to play a brand new adventure with a new story but when it comes to remakes, the real reason is not to tamper with a classic by changing it to much, you just want to update it to today (well early 90's) standards. And that is what we did with KQ3.
And as I said, the patch and voice pack is slowly coming along which will make the experience even better.
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QuoteWe didn't alter the story in any way, we just explained a few parts better. For example, in the original KQ, alot of people were confused on first play why you were playing as a slave and not King Graham, it was only until you play into it you realize you're Alexander. We just wanted to add a little something to show that this isn't is home and he is from somewhere else. Originally we did plan to use a very big scene which involved the Royal Family but we decided against it."
Actually in the original that was quite intentional. He didn't know who he was. He didn't find out who he was, except by listening to animals along the way, and it wasn't confirmed until the end. Roberta Williams wanted it to be a mystery, so people would either have to take the time to listen to animals, or wait until they reached the old gnome before his name was confirmed. Even the oracle scene while talking about his family and sister, did not mention his name.
Well the official novels, and even occasional manuals, strategy guide have a bit of different explanation than your team chose to do heh.
I mention the differences between official story, and the remake's story over in the King's Quest omnipedia btw, if you are interested.
As for KQ2, beyond a nice short story in the manual, and an introduction movie (that few watch since it takes getting past the credits), it didn't have the most detailed story. It was about as undetailed as the original KQ1. Like KQ1, it was mostly a treasure hunt.
Imo, Peter Spear's official adaptation of the story however did alot to flesh out the story, and give some backstory to the characters seen in the game.
As for the KQ2 remake however well they totally changed characters around. Good Guys form the first became badguys, badguys became good guys, etc. Some characters were left out. They made some really big changes.
It also doesn't even have the same feel imo, and theme is a bit darker.
Again I think the KQ2 remake is cool, but I personally I prefer the original and official storyline, call me nostalgic, heh.
Quote from: Baggins on July 28, 2006, 08:31:08 PM
Again I think the KQ2 remake is cool, but I personally I prefer the original and official storyline, call me nostalgic, heh.
The original didn't have a storyline. At least, not one that made any sense. Wasn't it just completely random puzzles to find the three keys, and then suddenly you find Valanice? I would hardly call that a "story". ;P
The story progression was basically the same as KQ1.
Except instead of having to find the 3 treasures of Daventry, it was to find the 3 keys to the magical door.
Past the credits was a bit of description text, and a cutscene that that mentioned that graham had been looking for a wife but hadn't found anyone. It shows him going to mirror. The mirror shows him that in land of Kolyma Valanice had been kidnapped by the evil, Hagatha, and was locked away in a tower on an island, and that he must find 3 keys which unlock a magical door, in order to get to her. So he decides to go on a journey to save her.
Various characters you bump into will give you clues as to what you need to do if you used the "talk" command as you explore the land, and what they needed help with, as well as why they are willing to help Graham succeed. You can also get a tiny bit of backstory to them if you type the "look" command as well.
The door itself even had clues as to what you had to do next, and had a linear progression of events. The first door for example had a riddle that lead graham to where the first key was held. Once he opened the first door, it then told him to look for the second key on the mountain top, and lastly that he must destroy Dracula for the last key.
Infact as far as story is, KQ1 was non-linear, where KQ2 had linearity. So KQ2 actually was a bit more advanced than KQ1, as far as how they could tell stories on computers in those days.
Also the manual had this as a backstory;
QuoteA long, long time ago, when creatures of myth and magic walked the earth openly with lesser mortals, there dwelt in the kingdom of Daventry a King name Graham. He had won the crown by his wit and courage, when he went forth to uncover and reclaim the three lost treasures of Daventry. Now Graham ruled over the land, with the aid of the mirror that foretold the future, the bottomless treasure chest, and the invincible shield. The people of Daventry prospered under the reign of the kindly monarch.
Just one year after returning from his first victorious quest, King Graham arose and looked into the mirror as he was wont to do daily. Much to his astonishment, he beheld the face of Edward, the King who came before him in the succession.
King Edward spoke, "Graham, your kingdom is strong now, thanks to the recovery of the three treasures and your wise leadership. But it will soon grow weak again, if you do not provide an heir to the throne. Marry, my son, and give your people a prince that make their future secure."
The vision faded. King Graham pondered how he might find a bride fit to reign over Daventry. He consulted with Gerwain, his wise prime minister.
"She must be good, and kind, so that she will love my people and they will love here," said Graham. "She must have the wisdom to counsel me in my daily problems, and a loving heart to bring me comfort. I wish my Queen to glow with an inner beauty of spirit as well as beauty of face and form."
Gerwain suggested that Graham host a celebration, and invite all the maidens of marriageable age from his whole kingdom. He could then observe and conserve with the likely candidates, and see if any one of them fit his idea of a queen.
The invitations were sent out, and the whole kingdom turned out for the celebration. From every corner of Daventry the maidens came. Short and tall, slender and plump, fair and dark, pretty and plain. There were maidens from all stations of life, from Dukes' and earls' daughters to the village goose girl and the scullery maid from the castle kitchens. They all had but one thing in common: They greatly admired the handsome King, and were eager to catch his eye. Word had spread that the King was looking for a bride, and they were all thrilled at the prospect of marrying the charming Graham.
For two days the celebration wore on, and though he tried to be cheerful, Graham gradually became somber. None of the maidens he had met quickened his pulse. One maid squinted, another triped over everything in sight. Another was too coy, and the one after her giggled constantly. They all had some fault, however small. It was with great relief that Graham saw his guests ride away at then end of the celebration. He retired to his room to reflect gloomily.
"My kingdom is home to hundreds of lovely maidens," he mourned. "Why is there not one among them who touches my heart and my dreams."
As he asked the question, King Graham was standing near the magic mirror. He glanced toward it, and noticed that the glass had grown inexplicably cloudy.
The mist cleared, All at once, King Graham beheld the most beautiful maiden he had ever seen. She had hair of glowing auburn, and eyes of midnight blue. Her skin was the color of rich cream, but alas, no roses bloomed in her cheeks, and the corners of her pretty mouth drooped in sorrow.
She was standing at a window, motionless except for the stray breeze that stirred her hair. A tear fill from one eye, and sparkled on her cheek like a diamond on velvet. She put up one hand to brush it away, and Graham was struck by the grace of her movement.
The kings heart was suddenly enveloped in a strange fever. He knew that this was the maiden for whom he longed - this was the woman who must be his queen. He wanted to find her and bring a smile to her lovely face. He wanted to take her in his arms, and protect her from trouble forevermore. Eagerly he consulted the magic mirror.
"Oh mirror wise," said Graham, "I have vowed to make this maiden my bride. Where may I find her?"
The mirror clouded again, and a voice was heard. "This is the maiden Valanice. She is from the kingdom of Kolyma, and is known for her goodness no less than her beauty. The jealous crone Hagatha whisked Valanice away to an enchanted land, and imprisoned her in a Quartz Tower guarded by a ferocious wild beast."
"I must rescue her or die in the attempt," declared King Graham. "How may I find this enchanted land?"
"You must travel to the kingdom of Kolyma," said the mirror. "There you may search for the keys which unlock the three doors to the enchanted land..."
The voice faded and the mirror cleared. Graham stared at his own reflection. Vainly did he call for its return, to give him more clues to the whereabouts of the magic keys. Finally, he shouldered his provisions, and set out on his quest of love.
Only you, my bold adventurer have the power to finish this tale. Accompany King Graham on his quest to find the magic keys. Encounter characters of legend, folklore and fantasy. Explore underground caverns, eerie towers, and ocean wonderlands. Help him rescue the enchanted maiden, so he can lay his kingdom and his heart at her feet.
You will be faced with challenges that would intimidate those of lesser timbre. Summon all your strength and courage. Leave no stone unturned, no avenue unexplored, and your perseverance will be richly rewarded.
It may be possible to find each key through more than one avenue. The more imaginative your solutions, the greater you reward.
Study all the ancient lores for clues. Along the way collect as many treasures as you can - treasures fit for a queen.
The road you must travel is long and perilous. You will be beset by many dangerous beings, both mythical and magical. You must have the wisdom to know when to stand and fight and when to flee from superior strength. But take heart -- you may receive help in unexpected places.
Go now, and remember true love conquers all!
The King's Quest Companion continues where that backstory leaves off, and has Gerwain chronicling the adventure Graham had in the land of Kolyma. He even fills even more background to the characters and land, and the events that went on. Its quite a bit more detailed story than the game. It is very different than the story in the KQ2 remake.
Also by one definition of the term "story", "an account of incidents or events", the game definitely has a story. Maybe not the most detailed of stories, but certainly a story.
Now one big difference, in original KQ2, Graham, kills Dracula. The monk that graham befriended officiates Graham's wedding at the end of the game.
Where as in KQ2 remake, the monk is the bad guy, and graham kills him, and the vampire is the good guy who officiates Graham's wedding at the end of the game.
Of course Gerwain was not evil in the official timeline.
Well, I changed my mind and downloaded and installed KQIII. I did not want to wait any longer for the voice pack. I have played it and beat it. I found it to be much easier than the original KQIII. I remember if you made one little mistake with the spells in the original then you were toast. The graphics were good but I was disappointed that I found it to be not as well made as the AGD KQ1 and KQ2 remakes. I had a lot of points where you would just enter a scene and freeze and not be able to move in that scene. Fortunately, it was possible to navigate around this using the map and different paths. I was bored waiting so long in the ship after exploring it so I started to read the newspaper until I got the call that we were near land. All in all, a fun and enjoyable game. Thank you, IA.
I just downloaded it and will edit in my thoughts after I beat it (which shouldn't be too long, I played the original tons ;D).
Okay, while Klytos has been asleep after a long day of finally fixing that last bug of KQ3, we are finally pleased to announce that the whole damn thing is done now! I've been up for a long time making sure everything is in order, working right and now I'm pleased to say you can play your King's Quest with a brand spanking new feel and a voice pack to add to that!
Now, from the big dog himself, Klytos left me with his words.
(http://www.infamous-adventures.com/images/kqscr22.png)
Notice anything different?
"Well, it's finally here. The long awaited patch and voicepack. Firstly I'd like to apologise to you the fans who have been patiently awaiting this, yes we promised nearly two months ago that this would only take a few days (a week at the most) but things changed. Secondly, I'd like to say that the patch isn't really a patch. Because of the work we did to the game, the patch itself was going to be nearly the same size as the entire build. So we figured why bother having both. Sorry about that folks.
After fixing all the bugs which had been pointed out to us, we went through the game as much as we could and fixed all the minor things (like walkbehind errors, graphical glitches etc) that weren't crashable bugs but certainly detracted from the gaming experience. All in all there were well over 200 errors in this area, not including spelling and gramatical errors. This took us to about the three week point.
Then we decided to add in some things that you the fans pointed out to us were in the classic game and not in our remake. You thought it detracted from the overall game, and although sometimes we didn't agree, we added in what we could. The magic map onboard the pirate ship has been added, as has interactions for every inventory item on the general game world, even if it does nothing it'll bring up a standard response to let you know nothing happened. One of my favorites was to add in some more ambient sounds in the game world, giving the game more of an in-depth feel. For a full list of all the fixes and additions you can open the fix list document in the game directory.
Then there's the things we added because we had some time. (We had the time because of the voice pack, but I'll get to that soon). Something that wasn't a bug, yet annoyed me was not having a delete button in the save game menu, so we added that in, as well as giving players a warning when the save list is full (which was a bug). Sinister decided that Manannan didn't look evil enough and that he should have a "cool" red trim on his robes as he did in the classic game. Although I was sceptical at first he produced some fantastic sprites which neatly fit over the top of the old sprites, so we added them in and they look brilliant. LittleBlueSmurf worked with Sinister and recoloured the dialog portraits which now look even better than they already did. Little things, like adding in a couple of animations we had half-finished for deaths, adding in the fish in the ocean eating you in fly form, putting a chime in when points are scored, we had a little time so we added what we could. And we think it makes for a better game. (We also added in a special ending if you finish the game with full points, we hope you enjoy it, we think it rocks.)
Now the reason we had some time was that we had some major problems with the voice pack. We started going through it and discovered that we had lost some of the voice files, in particular Andy Hoyos' performance of about half of the Manannan files, which everyone assumed somebody else had but nobody did because we all assumed that they were still on the forums which had been hacked a few months ago. So re-recording was required on some parts. Then the painful and slow work of making sure all the files were edited to the same format and the same volume level was done by Ponderer. And finally we added the speech into the game and made sure everything matched up and of course some lines didn't so we had to change the build to match the voice files as much as possible. This took just over a month to do.
So there you have it. That's what we've done over the last two months. That and enjoy the fact that so many people have enjoyed our little project.
Oh yeah, there really wasn't a "Moonlight Sonata" in the first release of the game. We added it into the soundtrack to amuse ourselves watching people looking for it. It was fun, thanks people. I will give you an ironclad guarantee now though, it is definetly in version 2 of the game. I'll even let you know where! Remember that special ending I talked about a few paragraphs ago, it's in there. Honestly. (Note : I'm surprised somebody didn't simply play the music.vox file in the music player which is available to download on the AGS website. Would have been a simple way to prove it wasn't in the game.)
Klytos
Team Leader IA's Kings Quest III Project"So what the hell are you waiting for?
Download the new patch and voice pack now! (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/kq3/)You can view the whole fix list here. (http://www.infamous-adventures.com/kq3/index.php?page=fixlist) We've been busy as you can see. One thing which would be worth mentioning at the moment is that the launcher has been removed, and that means you can install KQ3 wherever you want now and not just in Program Files.
Enjoy!
Wow! With all those fixes it sounds like it should be a new version entirely! ;D
I look forward to playing it soon. :)
AWESOME!!! I will have to check it out later! 8) ;-D
OMG. :D :D *looks foreward to playing it soon*
Sounds great. Downloading now.
I cannot download the game or the voicepack. Is there a problem with the web-links? :'(
Well, I beat version 2.0 and great job on the voice pack. This game was lots of fun and wow it being freeware is amazing. Great Job!
Very dun game. I actually liked it better than the original, mostly because in the original you spend half the time looking through the manual. Also, the cutscenes were great, and all of them added to the story, rather than interfering with it.
It was very fun to play, good job on the game.