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Title: Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 30, 2005, 09:35:01 AM
OK theres a fair amount of PC savvy people areound here so I wonder if you can help me...

Having finally recieved my new graphics card and monitor yesterday I set about adding them to my system that I've been building. Now I'd followed the Mobo guide word for word on connecting everything up and I thought it was all ready to go until I hit the switch. Nothing. No slight movement of a fan, no explosions, no bleeps or flashing lights just nothing. My first thought was that I'd wired the front panel power switch up wrong but I've tried it in every position possible and nothing. Its really really getting on my nerves now as I can't even begin to work out what the problem could be as nothing even happens to indicate where the problem is! Anyway heres my specs if it will help:

MSI 915P Neo2 Platinum ATX Mobo
P4 Prescott 3.0 Ghz processor (800 mhz fsb i think...lol)
1 Gig DDR2 Corsair value select RAM
Sapphire Radeon X800 Graphics card
2 x 160 GB seagate barracuda HDs
350 W Nexus silent power supply

I reckon thats the basics of what it needs to actually do something but *sigh* no such luck. Any help or links to help would be muchly appreciated.


Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on March 30, 2005, 09:50:01 AM
This once happened to me.  Check to make sure you screwed in the motherboard to the case properly, using the right number of screws and spacers from the case.  If you used too many screws, or if it's flat against the case, it's causing the electricity to ground out and nothing happen when you press the on switch.
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 30, 2005, 09:54:52 AM
Ahhhh that hadn't occured to me. Well it doesnt say exactly how many is too many when it comes to the screws...I've basically just screwed in all the available holes (9 in total), do you reckon I should try it with less screws?
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on March 30, 2005, 10:01:32 AM
Yup, try it with 4 or something.  You probably don't even really need more than 2.  But to test to make sure this is in fact the problem, try unplugging all the PCI cards and then unscrewing the motherboard from the case completely. Then connect the power supply to it and turn it on.  You should see the CPU fan and see the power lights come on at least.
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 31, 2005, 05:31:25 AM
Bah, still no luck. I tried with 6, 4, 2 and then none and then I even help it raised slightly off the supports and still no sign of life! I'm beginning to think that the PSU was dead on arrival but surely thats quite rare...

meh I've developed a new found hate for computers, if this ones not careful it'll end up out the window. Cheers for the help though Neil, much appreciated.
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on March 31, 2005, 08:12:34 AM
 :-\

The switch on the back of the case is set to ON, right? ;P
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Warlock on March 31, 2005, 08:24:31 AM
Quote from: Yonkey on March 31, 2005, 08:12:34 AM
:-\

The switch on the back of the case is set to ON, right? ;P

*chuckles madly* Knowing Alex, probably not! ;D
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: koko_99_2001 on March 31, 2005, 08:49:18 AM
*waits for Alex's response*
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on March 31, 2005, 10:11:13 AM
LOL yes it is!! I can be bad sometimes but not THAT bad!
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: koko_99_2001 on March 31, 2005, 10:15:30 AM
You sure about that? ;)
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Louisiana Night on March 31, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
This may not be related to your problem, but isn't your power supply slightly weak for a system like that ( I'm not saying it is, just that it seems that even if you do get it working, that might be your second problem ) ? :P
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: GravityMX on March 31, 2005, 07:33:59 PM
You could try this Power Supply Calculator (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/) if your unsure.

Have you tried:
-Booting with just one stick of R.A.M.
-Checked the R.A.M. for scratches
-Swapped PSU's
-Made sure the heatsinks seated correctly
-Removed various bits and pieces, allowing just enough to boot the system (CPU, RAM, HDD)
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on April 01, 2005, 05:38:00 AM
Yes to all of the above I'm afraid.

Dan, you know I reckon that may well be the problem which is hugely annoying as its a special silent case which I bought for doing all my sound recording etc. This means if I want a new PSU for it I actually need to send the whole damn thing back for the 400W version  :-X
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on April 01, 2005, 05:42:26 AM
Ah I just did the power supply calculator and it only came to 312W so its not that either! Meh, I am totally at a loss now...
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on April 01, 2005, 08:54:17 AM
I think it's time to take it in to a computer technician.  :-\
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on April 26, 2005, 04:11:00 PM
UPDATE: Well we have power! I was plugging in a fan power supply for a fan that didn't exists so...go figure :p anyway, heres the most recent problem in teh saga I like to call, ihatecomputersandneverwanttoseeoneagain

:furious:

One thing though...Neil you mentioned about screws? Well I put the mobo supports in in the holes just labelled ATX (5 in total I think) and screwed them all in. Could that have any effect on it?

(im spamming this round many PC tech places, hence the back story :p)

*sigh*

I bought all the components for my new PC late February and in early March it was all hooked up and ready to go. So I turn it on and yay! HDs are humming away, CD/DVD drives are working nicely, CPU, PSU and graphics card fans are all spinning fine BUT there's no image on my monitor and NO BIOS beep to say if there’s an error or even if there isn’t, its just silent. The fact that there is no beep made me think it was a mobo problem but alas, i sent it back to the guys at Novatech (really great customer service btw) and they tested it out and managed to get an image out of it fine. I'll list my specs then ill list EVERYTHING I've tried to get it to work:

Nexus Silent Breeze 350W case
MSi Neo 2 Platinum 915P Mobo
Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz LGA 775 Prescott Processor
1 Gig of Value select corsair DDR2 RAM
Sapphire ATI Radeon X800 256MB PCI-Express

Now that’s all I really need to list at this point as even with this set up I’m getting nada on the monitor or from the motherboard. So yeah as you can tell I've:

- Tested with just the above
- Tested without the graphics card to see if the Mobo gives me any beeps (It didn't.)
- Made sure I've got the right number of Mobo supports in by just putting the support bits in the holes labelled ATX
- Made sure the mobo isn't touching the case in any way
- Cleared the CMOS (several times)
- Checked and double checked all the front panel is wired up properly (including the system speaker)

So as you can see I'm at a total loss. I really hope I’m being stupid and its something glaringly obvious as that would be alot better than having to get a replacement *hopes*. I would check out if it’s the RAM but none of my other computers use DDR2 and this Mobo doesn't support regular DDR. I'd test the graphics card but I dont have access to another PCI-Express card and this Mobo doesn't support AGP cards. Please help :(
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on April 26, 2005, 09:05:23 PM
If the computer is getting power now, then it's screwed in properly. :)

Is the PC Speaker working properly?  It should beep if you try booting the computer with no memory chips in it.  Anyway, even if the speaker is working properly, that alone won't tell you what's wrong.

Did the tech support people say HOW they managed to get the video to work (i.e. swapping with another video card, or swapping the monitor)?
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on April 27, 2005, 03:54:06 PM
They didn't say but I assume they had to have done so as I only sent back the motherboard and the processor. That means they stuck in RAM and a graphics card.
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Yonkey on April 27, 2005, 09:22:50 PM
I'd try exchanging your video card then.
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Oldbushie on April 28, 2005, 02:19:50 AM
Use a Geforce video card maybe.... ;)
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 12:22:17 PM
New prolem time! Yay!

Ok SO, it turned out the problem was a duff PSU! Now i have another problem. When I try to install windows using the XP Home installation disc it doesnt recognise it. The BIOS won't allow me to select a CD/DVD drive as a boot device, only Floppy or HD. When it analyises the attached devices before going into the BIOS it acknowledges that the CD and DVD drives are connected but fails to list them as bootable devices...

Help?  :'(
Title: Re:Mobo woes :'(
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 12:43:08 PM
IGNORE!

I was being a retard, I had the CD drive in the IDE 2 port rather than IDE 1  ::)