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Title: What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on May 15, 2005, 10:13:41 PM
What's your opinion on them? Which one you like the best? Why?
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Jafar on May 15, 2005, 10:15:40 PM
What do you think of the new music tracks? :pokerface:
So far I've only listened to Graham's theme, so I guess it's my favorite by default. :P
I really liked it. It suits him.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on May 15, 2005, 10:18:50 PM
with the exception that Graham's theme is NOT one of the new music tracks ;p

And it's not going to be used either. We have a whole new track for him :D
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: icarus on May 16, 2005, 03:08:05 AM
got a whole day 2 listen 2 the new tracks. And what i heard so far  it sounds cool
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: aHaynes on May 16, 2005, 03:18:04 AM
Hi. My name is Austin. I'm the main composer for KQ9. I look forward to everyone's comments that are posted on here! I hope that you guys love the music!
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: MusicGeekinCanada on May 16, 2005, 03:30:54 AM
The tracks are INCREDIBLE. Evocative, well-composed, with high-quality sampling.

The first track (A Kingless Castle) has some great dynamic leves within the cello part. Awesome piece. It warrants even more reverb to magnify the scope of it.

Austin's solo piano piece is incredible. Wow.

The Journey of Eternities is an obvious hit. Great theme - subtle and powerful.

Nick Roland's piece (Shadows) has a very interesting development to it's climax. A great structure in general.

I hope everybody on the team as well as the fans realizes how good this music is. As a composer myself, I know how much work is involved. Kudos to the music department for sharing their talents with all of us.



Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: aHaynes on May 16, 2005, 03:52:31 AM
Thank you for the nice words! I appreciate you for giving your time to listen and post your thoughts on the music! Long live the music!
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: doernpferde on May 16, 2005, 06:19:40 AM
So you're not using any of the old themes, or just Graham's? Don't get me wrong, but that would mean a great relief, since I have never liked the themes very much. They were all right and they may have suited the game you expected, seeing the old screenshots. But having in mind the overwhelming new screenshots, the themes wouldn't have the done them justice.

Now the new tracks I simply love. They have a depth and a mystery to them, creating a mighty athmosphere. "Aprophecy of his own is a masterpiece, soft and yet wicked, tender but tense. brilliant, definately my favourite.

"Lost the battle, win the war" is very beautiful too. Very dramatic, very classical, I would almost say very classic Hollywood. Also LOVE the flute in the middle of "A Kingless castle".

The one thing I am still missing, is an evil villain's theme, something dark, something menacing and disturbing, something that would make me shirver on a summer day.

Keep up the work, I am more impressed with your work, than ever! All my best wishes.

doern
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Swift on May 16, 2005, 07:18:14 AM
Loved the new tracks. Keep them coming please. :)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 07:42:52 AM
In a word, inspirational. After listening to the 6 tracks on repeat for the good part of two hours I then spent a further 2 hours working on a piece of mine which had hit a dead end.

They're just superb, and I know they're going to do the game complete justice. I'll write more when I'm at home as there IS so much to write about them but alas, back to making music from kettles boiling I go.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: koko_99_2001 on May 16, 2005, 08:03:34 AM
I've listened to the new songs now. Wow. I agree with Alex, inspirational. I really don't know what to say with all this and the other updates. But it's completely amazing. My favorite...probably Valanice Falls. There's so much mystery behind that title and behind her history, that I think that threw it to my favorite.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Yonkey on May 16, 2005, 09:23:09 AM
I love these themes, even back when they were still work in progress, they were still amazing!

Great work Austin & Nick! :)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: aHaynes on May 16, 2005, 01:57:45 PM
Thank you everyone for your comments. As far as dark theme there is one :). It's more like smart dark ;). It's not pure evil but evil with a touch of something else. I can't reveal anything more than that. Thank you all for your time and nice comments! I'm sure Nick is happy too that you liked the "Valanice Fall" track. It makes me happy for you guys to be happy!
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: sivvrianBARRY on May 16, 2005, 03:40:10 PM
Hey guys, all the music is amazing! It really sounds just awesome. My favorite would have to be the KQ9 main theme.

I do have a couple critiques though. First of all, I really hope a middle eastern flair is added to some of the tracks for the Land of the Green Isles. While I realize the soundtrack is more character based, the Land of the Green Isles (especially the Isle of the Crown) had a very unique, middle eastern personality that shown through the music in KQ6 and I think it would be a shame to lose that.

Also, are there going to be actual instruments for the solos? The reason I ask is because while the other music sounds really good and realistic, the cello solo sounds really fake to me. Really good composition, but I don't think a solo of that nature could be duplicated well by a computer.

Sorry if I'm being overly critical, the soundtrack from what I've heard is truly awesome.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on May 16, 2005, 05:05:17 PM
Ok, let me talk a little about the tracks I decided to collect.

In Shadows, there are 4 key themes: The Main Theme (Which you can hear in "Journeys of Eternities" and "Shadows") Valanice's Theme (Which you can hear in "Valanice Falls"), Shadracks/Prophecy theme (Which you can hear in "A Prophecy of his Own") and the Love Theme (Which you can hear in "Lost the Battle, Win the War"). I additionally decided to add "A Kingless Castle" which features Alexander's Theme, which you can also hear in the old themes posted a long while ago in its piano version.

A Kingless Castle has some of that "Arabian flavor" in it. However, these are all themes based on characters or plot elements. With the exception of "A Kingless Castle" which adopts some of the Isle of Crown arabian tendencies, they are, like Liam said, based not on locations, but on other things.

Yes, there will be backgrounds tracks that have more of each land's flavor in them.

And, also, all these tracks are being remixed in Greece. So, while I can't promise we'll have real instruments in all of them, there are plans for things like a live chorus. But we'll see what time allows us to do.

:)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: amarinda on May 16, 2005, 05:09:56 PM
Really enjoying the music. Maybe my favorite thing released yesterday. ;) The thing that often make a movie or game *live* in my memory is the music, I love soundtracks. It's like taking the movie/game/whatever with you so you can remember and imagine it during everyday life. I wear my MP3 player everyday. ;P And these tracks are like that, very moving and memorable. Can't wait to put the scenes/events together with them! Until then, I've still got my trusty imagination. ;)

About the middle-eastern influence, I agree about that kind of music being great and adding atmosphere, but I DO definitely hear influences of it in the later parts of "A Kingless Castle."
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: amarinda on May 16, 2005, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: César_Bittar on May 16, 2005, 05:05:17 PM

A Kingless Castle has some of that "Arabian flavor" in it. However, these are all themes based on characters or plot elements. With the exception of "A Kingless Castle" which adopts some of the Isle of Crown arabian tendencies, they are, like Liam said, based not on locations, but on other things.


Dang, you posted faster than me. :P But thanks for the additional info. ;)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 05:28:49 PM
I thought that "A Kingless Castle" had quite a nice middle eastern theme going on in it. And I was actually quite impressed with the little realisms added to the cello solo too, so I guess its horses for courses hehe.

I think I have two join favourites at the moment, Valanice Falls and A Prophecy of His Own. They both have such a wide range of emotions flowing through them, its a pleasure to listen to them over and over again. This i find especially true in Valanice Falls where there's that gorgeous entrance from the oboe ( ? ), it just conjuers so many images in my head! But then on the other hand I love the way the piano flows in a Prophecy of His Own. It starts off sounding like you know where ot'll end up but suddenly has a little twist and then finds itself in a quite different place.

Hahaha agh i could write all night about these pieces but I won't. i'll just say (again ;p) im so happy to hear how the music is developing and can't wait to hear some more.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: amarinda on May 16, 2005, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: César_Bittar on May 16, 2005, 05:05:17 PM

A Kingless Castle has some of that "Arabian flavor" in it. However, these are all themes based on characters or plot elements. With the exception of "A Kingless Castle" which adopts some of the Isle of Crown arabian tendencies, they are, like Liam said, based not on locations, but on other things.


Dang, you posted faster than me. :P But thanks for the additional info. ;)

;D Ditto! Hehe i got sucked into to listening through them again while i was writing my reply.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: amarinda on May 16, 2005, 05:35:40 PM
Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on May 16, 2005, 05:30:52 PM
Quote from: amarinda on May 16, 2005, 05:12:10 PM
Quote from: César_Bittar on May 16, 2005, 05:05:17 PM

A Kingless Castle has some of that "Arabian flavor" in it. However, these are all themes based on characters or plot elements. With the exception of "A Kingless Castle" which adopts some of the Isle of Crown arabian tendencies, they are, like Liam said, based not on locations, but on other things.


Dang, you posted faster than me. :P But thanks for the additional info. ;)

;D Ditto! Hehe i got sucked into to listening through them again while i was writing my reply.

Me too!! XD Ohhhh, I have a question, any idea how many tracks there will be total? (Was this answered before?) I've already made a KQ playlist and I wanna know how full it'll be. ;P
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: TallDarkNHandsome on May 16, 2005, 05:58:57 PM
(my 2 cents...) I think the music is fantastic. Too bad that Graham theme isnt being used anymore... but im sure that whatever is replacing it will be awesome. I like Valanice Falls and also A Prophecy of His Own, but some parts im not sure about...
Great job to eveyone. Is that just synthesizers for the most part, or are there players? or a mixture? im curious :)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on May 16, 2005, 06:07:15 PM
The whole soundtrack for Shadows is probably going to come close to 3 hours of music. Still in production, and though I already have the full tracklisting, I don't know exactly how long it'll be, or if it's the final tracklisting.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: amarinda on May 17, 2005, 11:05:04 AM
Quote from: César_Bittar on May 16, 2005, 06:07:15 PM
The whole soundtrack for Shadows is probably going to come close to 3 hours of music. Still in production, and though I already have the full tracklisting, I don't know exactly how long it'll be, or if it's the final tracklisting.

Cesar, you're freaking me out by being all direct and stuff. No malevolent hinting! No suffer! What is the world coming too?!?! :P
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Elessar on May 17, 2005, 01:58:42 PM
Wow! These songs are wonderful! I like Valanice Falls the best, but all the songs are great! Keep up the good work. (I'll never make it 'til December...)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: aHaynes on May 18, 2005, 04:17:08 AM
I'm sure you can wait.....just keep listening to those tracks ;)! Lots of great music in the release for you to all enjoy but in the meantime, listen to all the hard work Nick and I have put in to this game! Thank you for your support!

-Austin Haynes
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Rosella on May 28, 2005, 06:06:46 PM
Ok, I'm going to say right now that I HATE instumental music. It just means nothing to me and I don't know how anyone expects it TO mean anything. That said, all of the KQIX music truly speaks to my soul. At times I find myself holding my breath while my heart is beating faster and faster listening to my favorite track, Journey of Eternities. You don't even know how much these tracks freak me out...in a good way.
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Yonkey on May 28, 2005, 10:08:52 PM
I know what you mean, Rosella.  Usually instrumental songs make me wanna vomit ;P, but there's something truly magical about Austin's pieces that has me addicted! XD
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on June 02, 2005, 06:55:20 AM
You're listening to the wrong instrumental music then! Don't you ever get bored of having to listen to yet another person trying to put into lyrics how much they love/hate someone/something? With non-vocal music you have to just let it wash over you and actually "feel" the music.

But on topic, what sampler/synths were used for the tracks? I vaguely remember someone mentioning gigastudio ages ago but i cant seem to find the post now...
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on June 04, 2005, 12:20:28 AM
Instrumental and Voiced music make me feel different ways. Voiced music force me to take the point of view of the singer and not all the time I can relate.

Instrumental, on the other hand, speaks to my soul, and lets it take whatever shape.

I'm a big fan of scores, mainly because I know how much you can say without actual words. It's like a picture, that can say more than a thousand words. Same is music, intrumental music. I have many many scores from movies and game, and I prefer them to sung pieces, with the exception of a few bands that I listen to, of course.

Anyway, Gigastudio is the right answer for Austin's pieces. Nick uses Garritan pack with something, not too sure.

But they are all being produced by the same person in Greece :D And, by the way, the Love Theme (The one you hear in Lost the Battel/Win the War), just got remade :)

Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: sivvrianBARRY on June 04, 2005, 02:03:14 PM
Wow, that's really interesting. Usually I enjoy instrumental music far more than vocal music. If you want some good instrumental music (mixed with choral too but it's in Latin...) check out E.S. Posthumus for a more modern (not weird modern, movie theator modern) sound. EDIT: You can actually (legally!) listen to their whole album for free on their website:
www.esposthumus.com

My favorite classical composer has to be Mozart, but there are tons of other ones I enjoy, like Robert Schuman, Beethoven, Bach etc.

Also many video/computer games have great instrumental music. Off the top of my head I can think of Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and Grim Fandango. There are plenty others though.

I'm really shocked that people exist who don't like instrumental music! ;D Check out some of that stuff I listed, and if you don't like it, WOW! ;)
Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Cez on June 04, 2005, 10:59:16 PM
also, scores like "Last Samurai", "Legends of the Fall", "The Piano" for movies.

and for games: "Final Fantasy piano versions", "Xenosaga Episodes I and II", are some of the ones that come to my mind :)

Title: Re:What do you think of the new music tracks?
Post by: Drunken Chinchilla on June 11, 2005, 11:57:13 AM
Yeah I think it's as Cesar pointed out, different music for different occasions. Can't say im a huge fan of the established classical composers "of old" (apart from Stravinsky) but maybe it'll just take time.

Cool to hear about gigastudio though, I just managed to get the orchestral version so its nice to know what kind of quality I can expect from it.