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Poll
Question: What should be the future of King's Quest IX?
Option 1: 1. Released as freeware on this site, unaffiliated with anyone or anything but ourselves votes: 16
Option 2: 2. Created and published under the Sierra banner, with the developers, writers, artists, etc. getting paid votes: 2
Option 3: 3. Released as freeware on this site with Sierra's special permission, paying them a royalty of some sort votes: 1
Option 4: 4. Shut down the project as it is, because we're violating copyrights and stepping on toes votes: 0
Option 5: 5. Shut down the project because nobody but Roberta Williams could make a real King's Quest votes: 0
Option 6: 6. Publish it ourselves and market it as either shareware or pay for advertising and selling on the shelves of Best Buy votes: 1
Title: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Say on January 04, 2004, 07:38:45 PM
This one its kind of interesting, Im curious how this will one turn out! please vote and comment everyone!, thanks :)
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Say on January 04, 2004, 07:40:09 PM
guess who voted first! :D hahaha :P oh yeah me ;)

I voted #1!, which its not so far from the reality anyways :P
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on January 04, 2004, 07:43:05 PM
I'll vote for the project being shut down... I just haven't decided yet if it's because of the copyrights violation or because no one but Roberta can make a KQ  :suffer:
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on January 04, 2004, 07:45:32 PM
Quote from: Say on January 04, 2004, 07:40:09 PMI voted #1!, which its not so far from the reality anyways :P

I'm surprised at you, Say! don't you want to get paid?  ???
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Say on January 04, 2004, 07:47:57 PM
HAHAHAHA HOW MEANIEH :P

Im seriously curious what will everyone vote around here :)
dont shut us down plz :P we <3 ya all :D
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Say on January 04, 2004, 07:50:16 PM
Honestly Im more devoted than it looks like, so money or no money you are not getting rid of me so easy :D

I started on this project not being paid, so if there is any possibility of it may happen (getting paid)... yay!, and if there isnt(no money)... yay! haha, my hopes and efforts are put on the game being fully released, not actually on getting paid for it :)

whatever else its just a plus :P
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Yonkey on January 04, 2004, 07:51:31 PM
I was undecided between 1, 2 and 3, but ultimately decided on 1.  I would have picked 2, but being released under the "Sierra banner" is what frightens me because that means they would own some part of it.  In order to pay us, they would have to market and sell the game too!   ::)

Number 3 seems just as possible as number 1.  But, since we're not making any profit on the game, the royalty they ask for might be too expensive for a fangame group like us.  :-\
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Say on January 04, 2004, 08:00:33 PM
WTF! no money for $ierra!  >:(
not fair! :P

In fact.... lol, they can kiss my nakie angel's ass :D
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Oldbushie on January 04, 2004, 08:12:03 PM
Quote from: Say on January 04, 2004, 08:00:33 PM
In fact.... lol, they can kiss my nakie angel's ass :D

Go Say! ;D
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: fluxmaster on January 04, 2004, 10:19:31 PM
Of course it should be #2, but, of course, that's not going to happen.  Certainly the creators of KQ9 deserve to get paid.  And it wouldn't be fair to have to pay royalties to Sierra when the game creators are not getting paid.  (Although I've been told that playwrights get royalties even when their plays are put on for free.)
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Allert van der Leij on January 05, 2004, 02:39:07 AM
how about releasing part 1 as freeware (as is the plan), and if the game is succesful, continue to work on parts 2 and 3 as a commercial company. That would be the best option possible. Of course we have to deal with sierra's rights, we'll figure that out when ( not IF ;) ) the time comes.

My two cents,

- Allert

p.s. I'll just vote for #1
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on January 05, 2004, 07:08:36 AM
Now seriously, I think the KQ9 team should decide what's best for it (to get paid, sued by Sierra etc.). As long as the game itself remains the same for all options, I don't care what way it comes out, as long as I can get it for free  ;)
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: fluxmaster on January 05, 2004, 07:23:59 AM
You ought to consider the downside of releasing the first part as freeware and waiting to see what the reaction of Sierra is.  If the first part is released as freeware and is enormously successful, Sierra might get an injunction to prevent you from releasing the remaining parts.  Then we'll never know how the story ends.  But if you offer all of the parts for download at the same time, then even if Sierra shuts down the entire project, we'll still have the entire game downloaded and will be able to play the entire game, regardless of what Sierra does.
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on January 05, 2004, 08:33:12 AM
They could go with the Shareware model then - finish the whole game, release only the first episode for free and make you pay for the rest (of course this kinda goes against my own interest :P). Still a copyright violation, but at least those who bought the game would still be able to finish it if Sierra decides to pull the plug  ;)
Title: Re:KQ9 Poll: King's Quest IX future...
Post by: MangoMercury on January 05, 2004, 10:06:45 AM
Myself, being Roberta Williams, thinks that this project is going to be good.  True, I'm the creator and everything, but it's fun to see the creativity of the younger generation.
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: copycat on February 01, 2004, 10:39:36 AM
I had to choose between 1 and 6. No $ierra banner, and no paying anything to them, after all, it's them who shut down KQ, so I wouldn't want them getting anything for fans reviving the project. Shutting down the project is completely out of the question, ofcourse. KQ: RTS was very good too and RW wasn't part of that project so option 5 is also invalid. And 6 is already being discussed, although nobody voted for it, the shareware option. Anyway, I always prefer freeware over shareware.
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: d00dle_f0x on February 01, 2004, 09:03:08 PM
Some of the best things in life are achived without pay, but made from the heart, not for money, but for the fulfilment of knowing -you- did it!

</inspirational words>

hehe ;}

If you guys can pull this off, I'll be your personal cheerleader. Or something. Just cuz I love ya.  :suffer:

Am curious though, if there's anyway I can help. oo' prolly not though, yer prolly packed of all the help y'kin get.
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: racx_00 on February 03, 2004, 06:10:43 AM
I had to go with number 6 cos i enjoy opening the box and looking at the packaging and all that ;), its fun, exciting and it wastes time ;D
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Louisiana Night on August 11, 2004, 01:55:14 AM
"Created and published under the Sierra banner, with the developers, writers, artists, etc. getting paid"

Simply because I think that Phoenix should get paid. Then again, they might after KQ9 is finished.
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: dew7 on September 11, 2004, 10:22:56 PM
Heck, if this game rocks then I would not mind paying a fee for it --- (say $20)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 12, 2004, 12:12:55 AM
...yeah, me too, but that would be not legal
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 12, 2004, 12:19:24 PM
Quote from: B'rrr on September 12, 2004, 12:12:55 AM
...yeah, me too, but that would be not legal

Wake up, it's already illegal ::)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 12, 2004, 01:56:32 PM
ssstt!! let me sleep please  ;-D ::)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 12, 2004, 03:13:16 PM
*Hands Rob a bucket of sand*

There you go ;)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 12, 2004, 03:54:30 PM
yay!! thankiezz!!

/me makes a sandcastle  ::) :P
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 12, 2004, 04:51:36 PM
People SO don't get me. *sigh*
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: dew7 on September 12, 2004, 06:55:24 PM
Will you show us a picture of your sandcastle, brr.   :D
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 13, 2004, 12:59:34 AM
Quote from: Storm on September 12, 2004, 04:51:36 PM
People SO don't get me. *sigh*

it must be hard..... o well, feel free to explain it  :-\ ::)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Jeysie on September 13, 2004, 01:12:17 AM
I can think of two explanations...

1. Storm is being the Sandman, albeit with a bit more sand than is usually given. XD

2. Storm wants you to stick your head in the sand like an ostrich.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Louisiana Night on September 13, 2004, 01:14:30 AM
Why's everyone complicating Storm's post?
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Jeysie on September 13, 2004, 01:43:57 AM
B'rrr is the one who complicated Storm's post. I was just explaining the sand comment.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 13, 2004, 04:37:37 AM
 :o :o it's my fault??  :o :-\

...o well, I go for option #1 I guess....  :-\ ::) ;-D
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 13, 2004, 12:22:47 PM
Wow, I've got people interpreting me now ;D
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 13, 2004, 03:29:01 PM
was it a good interpretation??  ::)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 14, 2004, 11:53:50 AM
There is no good or bad interpretion... it's all in the eye of the beholder. Once the words have left my keyboard they are no longer mine, they belong to the world and to eternity. Each can decipher them as they may, and I have no right to intervene :P
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 14, 2004, 02:05:19 PM
well there must be a right interpretation....


Quote from: Storm on September 12, 2004, 04:51:36 PM
People SO don't get me. *sigh*

you said it yourself  ::)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Storm on September 14, 2004, 03:07:19 PM
You can't hold me to what I've said so many posts ago :o
Just when I started to enjoy being cryptic :P
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: B'rrr on September 14, 2004, 03:18:31 PM
sorry ;D ...I'll try to avoid it next time ;-D
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Erpy on September 22, 2004, 06:30:38 AM
I see several options which would appear as very bold from the casual visitor's point of view.  ;D

Point 6 seems to take the cake. Would Phoenix just sit by without any objections if someone tried to make a sequel to your game & story and attempt to sell it? Seeing that I already noticed someone mentioning discomfort with the notion that you'd partly lose control to Sierra if an official connection were to be established (you wouln't partly lose control, you'd lose complete control, btw. They would own all of it. Ask Jane Jensen or the Coles if they co-own or control their series), I think you'd object. Because of that, I guess nobody would be surprised if Sierra would not condone that.

Seeing that you added option 2 and 3, the conspiracy theorist in me wakes up and wonders if you're secretly in contact with Sierra's legal reps or if this is just "wishful thinking". :)

An interesting thing is that you added option 4 as "shut down", rather than "radical overhaul to remove any similarity to the KQ series in this project". Seeing how much has been done already, that option may be more feasable than a complete shutdown, were Sierra to issue a cease&desist letter to your team. Or is that option no longer viable because lines with character names were already recorded? This could be option #7, which I'd probably pick if Sierra were to object.

I'm tempted to vote #1, because I see it as the only realistic option of them all. I don't see non-profit teams paying royalties...it's not peanuts we're talking about. It's sums of money that'd be able to buy each of us a nice little cottage at the Bahamas.

EDIT: Sorry, I only just realized this poll is very old and got bumped only recently.
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Shadowfax on September 22, 2004, 06:39:08 AM
Blimey! an interesting list here isn't it?

Well, I say No° 1 is the best option. Obviously as this is a fan remake in honour of the KQ series then I do not see why it should be closed down voluntarily just because they did it first (if a letter is sent by Sierra then a complete re-engineering program will have to be initiated to make the game side-step Sierra's demands. As for the line re-recording, that will may have to be abandoned if financial constraints prevent re-overhaul of the lines.)

BTW, good points Erpy!
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Yonkey on September 22, 2004, 01:41:36 PM
#1 was and still is the plan for KQIX, but there's no harm in making a poll showing these other options. XD

Erpy's right about the wording in #4 being a bit too extreme, because most likely we wouldn't shut down completely if presented with a C&D letter, but rather restructure so the game no longer violates any terms.  :)
Title: Re:King's Quest IX future...
Post by: Shadowfax on September 22, 2004, 03:49:14 PM
(puts on Pirate voice even though "international lets talk like a pirate day" is well and truly over)

Arghh, yonkey lad, tis' a fine plan so it ti's, haharghhh! (swigs whiskey). Now if only we could enslave those scurvy knaves over at Sierra for allowing that unwholsome blight which was MOE, to curse these fair adventure gaming oceans with something so terrible, it makes this old seadog's blood run cold.