lol, of course the forums will stay open! Once the game's out, I expect this place to be filling up with all kinds of people. ;D This is the perfect place to discuss stuff in the game and issues people have with them. :P There will also probably be a Hint forum or something too where people can help each other with hints if they're stuck. :)
As long as the name of the forum always stays as KQ9!
And if im gonna kiss feet they better be clean cos otherwise im not going anywhere near them ;)
awww how sweet this thread <3 <3 <3
well as director I may speak we do hope this site will be -of course- active by the time the game is released, as neil mentioned it the site might also evolve as the process of it all happens, since we may not be working on the game, but we would be here, since as also said this would be your place to come and tell us the feedback about the game as tech support and such
and bottom line... you wont -only- have this forum then, but you will probably have a lot more ;).... and dont think you're all going to get rid of us so easy after kq ;)
Quote from: Say on January 10, 2004, 02:45:20 PMbottom line... you wont -only- have this forum then, but you will probably have a lot more ;).... and dont think you're all going to get rid of us so easy after kq ;)
Not for a moment. If AGDI/Tierra is any indication, the forums will be heck of a lot more crowded once there's actually a game to discuss :D
Hehe ;D
Don't worry, none of em will have the hundreds and/or thousands of posts u guys already have. :P
Which means there'll be tons of newbies running around all over! :D
...And we'll have to work much harder to keep up :o
Hehehe, I think it might be fun! Newbies taking over threads and stuff, I haven't really seen it happen so far. ::) lol, it'll be like kq9 competition! ;D
hopefully i won't be a newbie by the time kq9 is done. :)
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy a long rest on my laurels ;D
Speaking of post-KQ9 release era, it's mentioned in the Phoenix Freeware On-Line "manifesto" they intend to go on making games after this one, even outside of the adventure games genre. Is that an ambition to become a commercial company?
Quote from: SilverStar on January 10, 2004, 03:38:28 PM
hopefully i won't be a newbie by the time kq9 is done. :)
Not if you keep on posting... you have a long while till then ;D
I got maybe less then year cus on the kq9 FAQ it said it would be done in 2003 to 2004.
hopefully thats enough time to become somthing better than a wizards slave. :)
Quote from: Storm on January 10, 2004, 03:49:12 PM
Meanwhile, I'll enjoy a long rest on my laurels ;D
Speaking of post-KQ9 release era, it's mentioned in the Phoenix Freeware On-Line "manifesto" they intend to go on making games after this one, even outside of the adventure games genre. Is that an ambition to become a commercial company?
yeah, I actually read that myself too, there are a lot of plans for everyone here, phoenix freeware online has goals of its own currently just get to finish with kq9 :P (which its a huge game, size and development speaking) afterward its been roughly discussed, we can't say much but what I can say its that we DO work as a company, we have scheludes, contacts, plans, directors, organization scheme, work system, etc, we do operate as a current company the only difference we are not all together on a building/office/whatever and we are not being paid at all. Our ambition goes perhaps a bit further than just making ourselves legal or make a profit out of it, its rather to come together and do good stuff ;)
Quote from: SilverStar on January 10, 2004, 03:59:08 PM
I got maybe less then year cus on the kq9 FAQ it said it would be done in 2003 to 2004.
hopefully thats enough time to become somthing better than a wizards slave. :)
haha dont worry about that :D, just keep on posting or opening threads, get aquainted with the madness around here and feel at home ! :P
Yeah, KQ9 is one beast of a project! :o Once it's over with I could see this group developing original games. It would be really great to continue to work with this team (and get paid too!!) Wooo! ;D
Yup, if you read the Inventory Issue 7 (the link is posted on our homepage 8)), you'll find out more details about the game's projected release date and other things. I believe the recordings being done in NY were also mentioned then too, and that issue was done back in May! :D
I read the issue a few days ago, it gives out alot of plans that have never been told on the website.I love the screenshots, they're really textured and un-blocky.
Storm:Yeah, KQ9 is one beast of a project!
(can somebody tell me how to quote?)
how long will kq9 be anyways? ???
QuoteYou click on the Quote button in a post and it will automatically quote the whole message. It gets more complicated to put many quotes in the same post.
im not sure if this worked.
YAY! ;D it worked! thx Yonkey!
and kq9 is average length! :)
Quote from: SilverStar on January 10, 2004, 09:30:36 PM
YAY! ;D it worked! thx Yonkey!
and kq9 is average length! :)
There's also this way of quoting. Instead of hitting Reply, you click the quote button of someone else's post.
hahaha
you people are hilarious :]
Quote from: racx_00 on January 10, 2004, 09:42:36 AM
And if im gonna kiss feet they better be clean cos otherwise im not going anywhere near them ;)
ill kiss your feet no matter what Say ;D (I scare myself sometimes :-\)
by the time the newbies come i'll something better than a wizards slave ;D
Well, it is called "The Longest Journey" ;)
How long is that game? never played it myself :-\
If you've played before, 20 hours, otherwise 40 hours. ;)
20 hours for a replay? I don't think I ever played an adventure I couldn't re-finish in one afternoon (or one afternoon and most of the night :P)
On the other hand, only double that time if you never played it before probably means it's not that hard ;)
QuoteI don't think I ever played an adventure I couldn't re-finish in one afternoon
same here. :)
there was only one game i couldn't beat in an afternoon, it took about a day but I forgot the name of it. ???
When I first play a game, I play it "straight", trying to do everything right. But when I replay a game I poke my nose into *everything*, and try to do all sorts of weird, bizarre, and generally totally wrong things, so that usually helps to keep the replay time extended. :D
Peace & Luv, Liz
Yeah, sometimes it's fun to look for the extra things in a game. :) Certain games are so long or tedious though that I do not care to go through them again, only the fun ones are fun to replay to the extreme. ;) Though when I play, I usually try everthing possible, especially when there's no danger of dying. Otherwise I save like a rabbit, every 5 minutes sometimes. Especially when my computer's been crashing a bit lately. ;)
Quote from: Jeysie on January 12, 2004, 04:27:12 AM
It's OK, we'll just talk to the newbies, too. :) Don't forget, we all were newbies once (and some of us still are)... nothing wrong with newbies.
Some of us like me!
:o
I'm not really shocked, I just thought that my post looked a bit empty and I liked the way that face looked.
Newbies are evil >:( unless they are commited like StephieSama :D, and they should introduce them self with a thread ;D
Normally, by the time the game is released, I shouldl be a magical genie, and no longer a wizard, so I can no longer have anymore 'wizard's slaves. Maybe you could introduce the rank 'Genie's slave?' ;D
When I first play a game, I always do it the fastest way possible (meaning no side-quests, if possible). When replaying, I also try all sorts of different things, though not as fanatic as Jeysie.
Also, on the first try, there's a lot of saving, on the second try I only save when I try something that might turn out the wrong way, and it may well be I always save in the same slot.
Quote from: racx_00 on January 13, 2004, 04:15:59 AMNewbies are evil >:( unless they are commited like StephieSama :D, and they should introduce them self with a thread ;D
How do you decide, on their first post, whether or not they're
really committed? (BTW, I definitely need a faster pc, this one's mixing up letters (like it's dyslexic)). Besides, I don't think I introduced myself with a thread, but that's probably because that happened about three forums ago, and I just don't remember.
Heck, I don't even recall how I found this site/forum. I even subscribed twice to the newsletter, because I couldn't remember the first time I got here and since I hadn't received any issue in the meantime, also couldn't remember I already subscribed. ;D
BTW, did KQ IX have a forum from the beginning? If not (I don't think you did), how long did it take since KQ9.org to make a postudios.com/blog/forum?
I am very commited.
Now watch as I wander off, never to return ;)
teehee, just kidding
Quote from: StephieSama on January 13, 2004, 07:36:18 PMI am very commited.
I would be commited, except that there's currently a waiting list to get into the local mental institution.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: Jeysie on January 13, 2004, 07:55:39 PM
Quote from: StephieSama on January 13, 2004, 07:36:18 PMI am very commited.
I would be commited, except that there's currently a waiting list to get into the local mental institution.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Lol! ;D Now, I don't think you're quite *that* mental... ;)
Quote from: copycat on January 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM
Normally, by the time the game is released, I shouldl be a magical genie, and no longer a wizard, so I can no longer have anymore 'wizard's slaves. Maybe you could introduce the rank 'Genie's slave?' ;D
hahaha, we'll keep that in mind but as far as I know all the ranks are already done :D
Quote from: copycat on January 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM
When I first play a game, I always do it the fastest way possible (meaning no side-quests, if possible). When replaying, I also try all sorts of different things, though not as fanatic as Jeysie.
Also, on the first try, there's a lot of saving, on the second try I only save when I try something that might turn out the wrong way, and it may well be I always save in the same slot.
hahaha, omg me too, I usually just like to play the entire game, not like -just to get over with it- more like -I wanna see what this game is about- sort of like, so yeah I also try to not take side paths or stuff just get to the main thing to do on the game :)
Quote from: copycat on January 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM
How do you decide, on their first post, whether or not they're really committed? (BTW, I definitely need a faster pc, this one's mixing up letters (like it's dyslexic)). Besides, I don't think I introduced myself with a thread, but that's probably because that happened about three forums ago, and I just don't remember.
Heck, I don't even recall how I found this site/forum. I even subscribed twice to the newsletter, because I couldn't remember the first time I got here and since I hadn't received any issue in the meantime, also couldn't remember I already subscribed. ;D
hahaha, well I have a hard time recalling myself as well Its been a looong time, I remember I was one of the first posters around here, this was freaking empty (back in like march 02 or so), I was even scared to post Im wasnt a forum person then, neither I was very much like... OLD around the team to be doing those sort of things, I even remember I think I asked Cesar if I could posted here and stuff hahaha, so funny
It was also really hard to post since I was one of the few, and the other ppl didnt use to post much, that's why cesar and rich joined me eventually :D, and then came along as well andrea, and storm and so on :)
Quote from: copycat on January 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM
BTW, did KQ IX have a forum from the beginning? If not (I don't think you did), how long did it take since KQ9.org to make a postudios.com/blog/forum?
I think as far as I remember kq9.org had the forum very recently after put online or at the same time when it was online.
Quote from: racx_00 on January 13, 2004, 04:15:59 AM
Newbies are evil >:( unless they are commited like StephieSama :D, and they should introduce them self with a thread ;D
I don't have anything against newbies... as long as they remember to turn on the gender tag, so I won't have to tip-toe around pronouns ;) Besides, if they decide to become regulars they usually blend in pretty quick :D
I remember the old days where I was a newbie... I don't think I ever made an intoductory thread, but my first post was on a "why does everyone hate Connor" so the important stuff was said right then :P I think that thread is what provoked me into posting on the forums in the firstplace (I never posted on any forum before) - It seemed to me people were too lenient with him here 8)
Quote from: copycat on January 13, 2004, 02:54:53 PM
When I first play a game, I always do it the fastest way possible (meaning no side-quests, if possible). When replaying, I also try all sorts of different things, though not as fanatic as Jeysie.
I try to do all the side-quests on the first round... when playing the game for the first time, I don't always know which side-quests are needed to finish the game. If I liked the game and can think or stuff I haven't tried yet, I'll play it again and try that on the way to finishing it for the second time. What you call "fanatic" I like to call "exploring to the extreme" 8)
However, when I need to finish a game just to playback some scene, check something out or show it to someone, I can usually do it in a few hour at most ;D
Quote from: Storm on January 15, 2004, 03:02:46 PMbut my first post was on a "why does everyone hate Connor" so the important stuff was said right then :P I think that thread is what provoked me into posting on the forums in the firstplace (I never posted on any forum before) - It seemed to me people were too lenient with him here 8)
:o You remember in what thread you posted your first post?
Quote from: copycat on January 15, 2004, 03:15:16 PM:o You remember in what thread you posted your first post?
Of course I remember! and that "show all posts" option on my user profile helped too ;)
Yeah, I remember my first post too. 8) It was in the thread about what you don't want to see happening in kq9, hahah. Then I posted an introductary/praise thread ;D
I remember storm's posts, and yeah she totally got famous after giving us million reaons to hate connor :D
I do remember they were more than one eventually and she was there and everywhere hahahaha :)
in fact, one of the first things we got to know about storm is that she does hate connor :P
hey I remember neil's first posts too! wtf how can I forget :)
Hehe, yeah. I've been looking through archives a lot the past few days. There are way too many amazing posts to list. ;D I wonder what ever happened to our old forum regulars? ::)
Quote from: Say on January 15, 2004, 07:45:28 PM
I remember storm's posts, and yeah she totally got famous after giving us million reaons to hate connor :D
You must mean, infamous ;D
Quote from: Say on January 15, 2004, 07:45:28 PMI do remember they were more than one eventually and she was there and everywhere hahahaha :)
in fact, one of the first things we got to know about storm is that she does hate connor :P
Actually, it was the very first thing. I think it was even before I set my gender tag :P
Quote from: Yonkey on January 15, 2004, 08:07:48 PM
I wonder what ever happened to our old forum regulars? ::)
Either they got some very time-cosuming obligations and can't post, got tired of posting or moved to another forum (ie. AGDI). Then there's always the possibility Cesar scared them away... :suffer:
Quote from: Yonkey on January 15, 2004, 08:07:48 PM
I've been looking through archives a lot the past few days. There are way too many amazing posts to list.
I've been looking at those too, and I often find myself going "I can't believe I posted that crap! WHAT WAS I ON BACK THEN? too bad the thread is locked..." :o :o :o
Quote from: Storm on January 15, 2004, 10:04:13 PM
I've been looking at those too, and I often find myself going "I can't believe I posted that crap! WHAT WAS I ON BACK THEN? too bad the thread is locked..." :o :o :o
HAHAH OMG ME TOO! Neil always share those old links with me and we spend sometimes long time reading these weird posts we made loooong ago, and Im usually just like that "lol wtf, cant believe I wrote that" hahaha its really fun.
And if you want to retake an old thread from the past (sort of like to post on it) feel free to do so! omg on those archives are so many old threads I wouldnt mind you open one and link it to the old archives and make a sequel on the current threads :D
i didnt mean anything by saying that newbies are evil its just, i dont want them coming in here for 2 weeks >:( and then just never returning 8)
Hehe, that's why you have to give them a reason to stay! :)
Quote from: Yonkey on January 16, 2004, 11:21:55 AMHehe, that's why you have to give them a reason to stay! :)
But how do we go about giving them a reason to stay on this forum?
racx_00, you don't want them coming in, and then never return. How can they never return if they haven't been here in the first place? You see to return (even if it's never), you have to have been here at least once.
I absolutly love when people sign up and likes to hang out with us, because it is amazingly fun to have different opinions all over, plus its seriously great to have new victims... I mean, friends :D
honestly, more than to give them reasons to stay, it has to be to give them options to come around :D, I dont mind everyone showing up opening new threads and stuff since I want the fans to feel comfortable around here, and to know they are also heard, the fact some of your comments are mentioned here and the main directors are usually not around, doesnt mean that -I- wont let them know about that :P
So honestly, its always great to have newcomers wether they stay or not, its always great to see new users, ahd recieve more comments, I do know even though many of them dont actually post as us... some of them DO read ;)
Quote from: copycat on January 16, 2004, 04:12:41 PM
But how do we go about giving them a reason to stay on this forum?
racx_00, you don't want them coming in, and then never return. How can they never return if they haven't been here in the first place? You see to return (even if it's never), you have to have been here at least once.
ok now im confused cos i dont understand what ur saying ???
Quote from: copycat on January 16, 2004, 04:12:41 PMBut how do we go about giving them a reason to stay on this forum?
First of all, try not to go all loony on them right away.
Then, tell them all regular posters are automatically accepted to do the beta testing for the game, which will begin next month (a little white lie never hurt anyone :P). If that doesn't work, start arguing with them about something (anything, even the color of the sky). They'll have to return and go on arguing so they wouldn't come out looking like LOOSERS. 8)
You might also try this - the team's personal favorite:
Tell them something big is going to happen SOON. Don't tell them what, and don't EVER give a specific timeframe - that way they'll have to stay and wait for it :suffer:
Quote from: Storm on January 17, 2004, 03:20:09 PM(anything, even the color of the sky).
The sky is white, is it not? And right now, it's fairly black, sometimes with little white dots. :D
Quote from: Storm on January 17, 2004, 03:20:09 PMYou might also try this - the team's personal favorite:
Tell them something big is going to happen SOON. Don't tell them what, and don't EVER give a specific timeframe - that way they'll have to stay and wait for it :suffer:
Ofcourse, if they just wait, they'll notice soon enough nothing is happening soon, so they'll leave anyway. :-\
Hey, I'm still waiting ;D
The thing I said about "giving newbies a reason to stay", I was being vague on purpose. ;D There's actually no right or wrong way to do this because we all do it differently, both intentionally and unintentionally. :D
And yeah, it is different from an administrator/moderator's perspective, a team member's perspective, regular forum member's perspective and a newbie's perspective.
Copycat, you're right. The team teasing we do doesn't work on newbies, it only works on you guys. ;D But seriously, there's a reason why we don't tell everyone our plans beforehand or give out too many details. I don't even need to spell them out for you guys. Just try telling your mom/dad/sister/brother you have a really nice present for them that you know they'd love but you're only going to give it to them on their birthday. Watch what happens. 8)
Quote from: Storm on January 17, 2004, 03:20:09 PM
You might also try this - the team's personal favorite:
Tell them something big is going to happen SOON. Don't tell them what, and don't EVER give a specific timeframe - that way they'll have to stay and wait for it :suffer:
HAHAHAH!! :D
wtf, seriously though, I can't say all that there is done for the past like... wtf, 4 months in webteam since I dont have an exact date when to release all that crap! in MY case its not not let your hopes high to let you all down then, things come and go and since it was only neil and me before I do have to attend PR which strangely its more time consuming than Web since I do depend on third parties for EVERYTHING... so its not as easy as it looks to be keeping an eye here and there, thats in MY case why I dont like to reveal things out in the open, since our original plan was to release everything on december yet the auditions thing was a given, then we had to promote, do the ftp crap everything :-X, Im not complaining though but Im not explaining any further on this :D but I already explained MY case ;)
And oh yeah, I dont even like telling Cesar at times since wtf he is spoiler man, neither of you were supposed to know about the teaser, yet you all do, lol, WTF BITTER SPOILER MAN, Im seriously thinking about banning him :D
Come on, Say! I can definately remember you doing the "something is going to happen... soon..." bit :suffer:
Yonkey -
I would still rather have a date on those things. Otherwise I start going "didn't they say something about something that's going to happen soon back in August? has it happened yet?" like I do right now. ;D
Giving a date's even worse! :P It's like everyone counts down the days until the deadline. And if it's not ready by then? Yikes. :o I'm not just talking about here, I mean even in real life it's hell. ::) Personally, I only like giving out dates when I'm 100% sure I can meet that deadline. But, most schedules, deadlines & dates are kept within the team anyway.
So yeah, deadlines is one issue. But also not wanting to spoil too many surprises is another reason why we don't post everything in public. :)
Quote from: Yonkey on January 18, 2004, 02:54:42 PM
Giving a date's even worse! :P It's like everyone counts down the days until the deadline. And if it's not ready by then?
Counting down is fun! and if you're afraid you wouldn't make the deadline, just give a really far one, one you're sure to make, and surprise us if it's done sooner :P
Couting down is fun... when you're not the one that has to meet the deadline! :P
But ok I'll take your advice. All deadlines will be no later than December 31, 2009. 5 years should be enough. 8) ;)
Ah, good, so once I have my Master's degree in Computer Science, a good job, a beautiful wife, and a nice home in Rhode Island the game should be done. Coolness. 8)
Nice 5-year plan, Oldbushie! ;D Good luck! ;)
Thank you! :D I am very ambitious. ;D
I should at least be in University by then, so i wont get to play it :'(
Why ever would that mean you couldn't play racx? ???
Unless you have a very underestimated idea of 'time spent doing nothing by college students' (er...University students), which might explain it. ;)
WTF, stop all whining and being dramatic you will get the darn game and play it when its done, understood?! *whips* :D
Yes maam! :D
that's more like it *hugz* :)
:P
ooo that whip stings :o, that might scar :'(
hahaha, no it wont!... cuz I wouldnt hit hard :D
*gives candy/money/pwetty useless stuff*
is it better now? :D lol ;)
Say must be pure evil to think of something like this >:(, but she will pay :suffer:
HAHAH WTF, I am evil because......?!?!?!
I gave you candy and money and stuff wtf how can that be evil :D
And even though Im latin (probably what jeysie was trying to say) I work internationally with american dollars indeed, lol, so erm yeah, I gave american dollars :D
OMG MISTERY SOLVED :o
haha I still dont know how the hellz does that turns me evilzz :P
and since as far as I know everything its usually compared to the dollar, it would be better for him cuz it would translate into more money to him, money given not taken from :)
HHAHAHAHA!!
omfg :D
erm, sorry? :P
haha, that's hilarious... YOU CANT BE GOOD ANYMORE!! as someone said once, that path of hell is full of good intentions :P (wtf dramatic ;D)
Don't forget the ever popular "No good deed goes unpunished."
Peace & Luv, Liz
omg! yeah, that one too
how ironic, isnt it? :P
Hey i have to be horrible to some ppl :P, otherwise i will lose my reputation ;D
HAHAHAHA! that's actually really cute, you are an undercover goodboy :D
but hey, Im a good girl (or try to :P), it's not bad to be good... its just really underpayed, understimated and cwappy... :D but its cool! :P lol
Im not cute >:(, your trying to destroy my reputation now :P, some ppl these days ;D
LMAO!
yeah yeah... so brave and meanieh and bad ass and stuff and you still like candy :P
No i dont like candy, i like extremely sweet sugar covered food, there is a difference ;D
talking about that! it just remind me of this chinese food, has anyone tried this fried rice that is actually sweet?, I soooo forgot the name of the dish, but omfg it was awesomez <3 and I rarely like sweet food
btw.. WTF candy is no food :P
yeah the sweet rice is nice i have had it a few times
BTW candy is food cos i said it is :P
Anything that your stomach can digest without killing you is food. :D Though... gum can't be digested very well. :P But we'll make it count as food too. ;)
Quote from: oldbushie on January 27, 2004, 03:19:19 PMAnything that your stomach can digest without killing you is good. :D
I'm pretty sure you meant to say: 'Anything... is
food.', am I right? 8)
Quote from: copycat on January 30, 2004, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: oldbushie on January 27, 2004, 03:19:19 PMAnything that your stomach can digest without killing you is good. :D
I'm pretty sure you meant to say: 'Anything... is food.', am I right? 8)
Hehe, silly typo. Trix are for kids!
and candy is therefore yummy sugary food :P
I think I posted it on bushie's forums but its true though that glucose its good for tha brainz! :P or the memory... or something hahahaha, I need more sugar I guess :P
Maybe that's why I'm so good at remembering things.... ;D
hahaha, seriously though I think I should start taking memory pills :(
I feel freaking senile already
Did you know smoking is supposed to enhance memory ;D
Quote from: racx_00 on February 06, 2004, 07:22:50 AMDid you know smoking is supposed to enhance memory ;D
Too bad it's hell on the rest of your body...
...actually, considering my mom smokes, and knowing what I do about what her memory is like, I find that claim slightly dubious. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
I also find that hard to believe. I don't smoke and have a very good memory. And I know some very forgetful smokers.
I don't smoke and have a crappy memory, but I don't think smoking would enhance it. It's become un-enhance-able, it can only get worse... :-X
At school i have to watch the drug videos every year so it aint my fault :P
Oh and its made by american scientists ;)
Quote from: racx_00 on February 06, 2004, 07:22:50 AM
Did you know smoking is supposed to enhance memory ;D
Do you believe everything the tubacco companies tell you? next thing they'll say it cures tuberculosis as well ::)
Actually it was a video that told you not to smoke and it wasnt created by Tobacco companies :P
Quote from: Storm on February 07, 2004, 09:42:21 AMnext thing they'll say it cures tuberculosis as well ::)
Maybe the poison in the tobacco kills the tbc-bacteria (?sp) (or is it a virus, I have trouble keeping the two apart.) 8)
I used to smoke and I think it killed some of my few sane brain cells or something lol, and cesar smokes... I rest my case.
Quote from: Say on February 13, 2004, 04:52:48 PMI used to smoke and I think it killed some of my few sane brain cells or something lol, and cesar smokes... I rest my case.
I think it's alcohol which does that, kill (off) brain cells. 8)
Quote from: copycat on February 13, 2004, 05:36:40 PM
I think it's alcohol which does that, kill (off) brain cells. 8)
Don't forget drugs. Consult your local pusher for your favorite brain damage :P
I just take prescribed drugs, and those alone have probably affected something. :P
Not enought though. You're still coherent :P
Quote from: copycat on February 13, 2004, 05:36:40 PM
Quote from: Say on February 13, 2004, 04:52:48 PMI used to smoke and I think it killed some of my few sane brain cells or something lol, and cesar smokes... I rest my case.
I think it's alcohol which does that, kill (off) brain cells. 8)
my point exactly :P
I think i was born without brain cells ;D
(snorts at Racx's comment)
Anyhoo. I don't drink, smoke, do illegal drugs, or take any prescription meds, yet my thinking processes are definitely out of whack. Either my childhood exposure to secondhand smoke has been catching up to me all these years, or um... it's just a good thing I don't do any "unnatural" substances, because I'm naturally f***ed up. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Maybe it's living under all those powerlines that did it. Or the radiation from the cell-phone/computer/TV... there's a 1000 ways to get brain damage nowdays, and the 1001th way is being on this forum :P
Hmm. Could be the computer and the TV. I've been using a computer since I was old enough to read and type... which is since I was about 4 years old. And I watched a fair amount of television as a youth.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I use the computer a lot, not too much brain damage, but I have gone a little nuts. ;)
well! as I think I've said somewhere along my 84957 posts... to be sane you have to be a little insane, live it up and enjoy your madness, not everyone is blessed to have the luck to be able to genually smile or laugh every once in a while :)
Yes, madness is good, madness creates laughter, long live madness! ;D
*cackles manically*
i think its something to do with sleeping ;), cos i cant think after getting up, and i cant think properly until 3 hours later and then i get on the computer which is another story ;D
I stopped having to sleep becuase I wanted to ages ago, I sleep sometimes even against my will :P
for example, on this site, neil and I have been well.. hahaha quite a long time doing first all the new features :P (oh yeah there are more things to come around here that we havent showed :P) doing our regular PR schedule meanwhile at the same time, not to mention we both have college (and we do have midterms, finals, etc), I also have that + thesis work, AND all the administrative thing to do (hire/fire, reports, blah, blah) + the website :P
so... what is sleeping again? :P
I wish I didn't have to sleep... then I could have more time to work on all my website projects. Problem is that while I am physically capable of staying up for long periods of time, my mental capacity doesn't last as long.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I wish I didn't have to do anything BUT sleep... :P
Quote from: Storm on February 16, 2004, 01:04:41 PMI wish I didn't have to do anything BUT sleep... :P
There was a year and a half of my life where I had nothing available to do but sleep, and I'll just say... trust me, you don't want that. Ever.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Eat, sleep, and play games, and be paid to do all three. That is my ideal for life. ;)
I wish I was good enough at graphic design to get paid for coding websites. Then I could eat, sleep, code websites, and maybe play a few games here and there.
Peace & Luv, Liz
I'm fairly certain just about anything will kill brain cells, in all honesty. Such hitting your head on something, etc. Smoking in particular could affect you via not enough oxygen being able to get into the blood and therefore cells. Alcohol affects so many parts of you that it's basically the most complex drug there is.
True! My friend was telling me about a class he took on the biological effects of drugs. Most of them affect just one area of your functionatlity/brian fucnctions/areas (ie, serotonin levels). Alcohol, on the other hand, effects a shitload of them all at once! Which is why so little known about why and how it really works, I guess. Or at least, why it affects so many areas.
Quote from: KatieHal on February 17, 2004, 12:03:01 PM
I'm fairly certain just about anything will kill brain cells, in all honesty. Such hitting your head on something, etc. Smoking in particular could affect you via not enough oxygen being able to get into the blood and therefore cells. Alcohol affects so many parts of you that it's basically the most complex drug there is.
Braincells also die constantly by themselves. You're born with a certain number of braincells, and they start dying right away and keep on dying until you're old and senile and dead. :o
Or so I've heard.
oh thats why i have been having trouble with school this year :D
Quote from: Storm on February 17, 2004, 07:05:49 PM
Braincells also die constantly by themselves. You're born with a certain number of braincells, and they start dying right away and keep on dying until you're old and senile and dead. :o
Or so I've heard.
I could swear I heard in a bio class in high school that you did regrow brain cells but only up to a certain age.
Makes sense to me... I've heard that young children tend to recover better than adults from brain injury. (Of course, young children tend to recover better than adults from *any* injury.)
I think the "cut-off" date is either at puberty, or a little bit thereafter.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: KatieHal on February 20, 2004, 07:38:04 AM
Quote from: Storm on February 17, 2004, 07:05:49 PM
Braincells also die constantly by themselves. You're born with a certain number of braincells, and they start dying right away and keep on dying until you're old and senile and dead. :o
Or so I've heard.
I could swear I heard in a bio class in high school that you did regrow brain cells but only up to a certain age.
I don't think you can grow new brain cells. Maybe the fact young childs recover better from brain damage is because they're not using as much of their brain as we are, so it's easier for the brain to relocate the lost functions elsewhere. Just a thought though, I have no scientific evidence to support this thought. 8)
Braincells are nerve cells, and nerve-cells never regenerate (as any spinally-injured paraplegic could tell you) so braincells don't multiply. The reason children may recover faster is that the connections between their braincells aren't completed yet, so it's easier for their brains to make the necessary connections and use different areas of the brain for the functionality of the damaged area.
Jeysie - I think the "cut-off" age is before puberty, in fact I was going to say it was at birth but I'm not sure about that. I mean, if what you're saying was true and braincells still multiplied in babies, they would have little trouble recovering from any brain injury, which, unfortunately, isn't true :-\
Quote from: racx_00 on February 20, 2004, 03:59:18 AM
oh thats why i have been having trouble with school this year :D
lol, yeah yeah its always fun to look out what to blame :P
btw racx is it me or you've been a bit away latelty?
WHY EVERYONE WANTS TO GO AWAYZ *cries*
I'm still here... :D
Quote from: Storm on February 20, 2004, 07:02:37 PMJeysie - I think the "cut-off" age is before puberty, in fact I was going to say it was at birth but I'm not sure about that. I mean, if what you're saying was true and braincells still multiplied in babies, they would have little trouble recovering from any brain injury, which, unfortunately, isn't true :-\
Hmm. It's possible... IIRC, while still in the womb growing, even brain cells can be regenerated to a certain point, it's once the kid is out of the womb that things get nebulous. Still, if there was the possibility of cell re-growth, it wouldn't be fast or anything. Drat, it's been too long since biology class. :P
Of course nowadays they can create nerve cells from stem cells, that can have beneficial effects on people with spinal cord damage, at the least. Which is one of the reasons there's so much debate about stem cells. (Or rather, about their source.)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Hehe! <3
As for dying brain cells, it's good for some to die out to make way for fresh new ones, otherwise you wouldn't retain much recent memory. :P Of course, you don't want to lost too much old memory either. ;)
Quote from: oldbushie on February 21, 2004, 11:19:48 PMAs for dying brain cells, it's good for some to die out to make way for fresh new ones, otherwise you wouldn't retain much recent memory. :P Of course, you don't want to lost too much old memory either. ;)
Weren't you listening to our discussion here, Bushie? YOU DON'T get new brain cells. EVER. That's why you should do your best to preserve the ones you have! So stop banging your head against the wall!! :o
I mean it makes way for fresh new connections between old brain cells...
so if they die and they never come back does that mean each moment we get more stupid? lol :P
Exactly!! :o
Not if we send the old information to blank brain cells... ;)
speaking of brains and stuff, I bet you all heard before also the fact that we only use more one side than the other of the brain (left or right) and that means or in related terms it means that we get to use only a limitated % of the whole, meaning we do get to use like erm, I dont know 10% or such out of a 100% or something, is it true? :P
Yeah, it's around 10-15% of our brains that is usable. I think most of it is busy doing other things, or maybe it's so we don't overload the brain too much. ;) If we used 100% of our brains all the time we'd lose a lot of energy. :P
*ahem*
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
Peace & Luv, Liz
"Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another. "
So we might only use 10% of our brains *at a time*, though all of the brain is used eventually. I never thought that everything necessary for body control and stuff was only located in a small area. ;)
Though there have been cases of people born with no brain that somehow survive and live just fine... called water on the brain or somesuch.
I read about a baby born without a brain... but she died shortly after. :-\ Do you mean hydrocephaly? That's having water in the brain, not instead of a brain... And it can cause brain damage as well :-\
lets not turn this into a ripley thread plz, going back to the brain subject in not such a dark mood, that means we biologically arent allowed to be multitask? meaning if we do use onle 10% at a time its same as bushie mentioned... you arent supposed to walk and chew gum cuz either you trip or you choke? lol :P
or if you're the president, just substitute pretzels in for gum...
I suppose it's possible to use all of your brain at once, you'd have to be doing quite a lot though... ::)
More fun thoughts...
AFAIK, no child born without developing part of their brain has survived more than a short time... certainly any child that did survive for an extended time would be nowhere near "normal". Any child that developed without any brain at all would likely be stillborn.
Having "water on the brain" is a completely different phenomena... IIRC, it results when the body produces too much cerebrospinal fluid to be able to "get rid" of the excess. (At least, that's the gist of it, even if I futzed some of the details.) It's treatable, but can cause brain damage if left unchecked.
Quote from: oldbushie on February 24, 2004, 07:20:33 PMI suppose it's possible to use all of your brain at once, you'd have to be doing quite a lot though... ::)
That's more of the extent of it, IMHO. Different parts of our brains are best dedicated to different tasks. Now, more than one part of the brain can (and usually is) involved in a single given "actual" task. But usually we don't do enough tasks at one time to need to use every region of our brain at a single given moment, no. We do collectively use every part of our brain at some point on a regular basis, though.
That's why people with brain damage of some kind exhibit vastly different types of "symptoms"... it depends on what task(s) the damaged parts of their brains usually do. I'd be willing to guess that recovering after brain injury involves your brain training itself to use parts of itself usually used for other stuff to cover the job(s) of the damaged parts. Or something like that.
Peace & Luv, Liz
Yeah, I meant born with no brain at all, just some kind of liquidy stuff. There are some people who are still alive and have this condition, and are well into their teens at least. They might have a thin layer of brain cells on the outer edge but have mostly fluid in their skull. And a couple of them manage to be quite intelligent too.
Quote from: oldbushie on February 25, 2004, 12:05:37 PMYeah, I meant born with no brain at all, just some kind of liquidy stuff. There are some people who are still alive and have this condition, and are well into their teens at least. They might have a thin layer of brain cells on the outer edge but have mostly fluid in their skull. And a couple of them manage to be quite intelligent too.
Ahh. To me, that sounds basically like what happens to "normal" people who suffer brain damage... their bodies train themselves to compensate for what's missing. Except that for these kids, it was actually a little "easier" since they never had any predetermined "pathways" to begin with. But just because someone can function without a given part of their brain doesn't necessarily mean that part is unimportant.
It's like somebody being born blind. Yes, such a person can train themselves to use their other senses to compensate for their lack of sight, so they can eventually operate almost the same as a sighted person. But wouldn't we agree that they'd be better off if they could see?
The human body is an amazing thing. On the one hand, it's a fascinating display of efficiency and specialization... each part of the body is designed to do a given thing, and the body works most easily when every part can do it's "trained" job effectively.
On the other hand, it's also very flexible. The human body has a remarkable capacity to compensate for damage or reduction in ability of some parts of the body. But it does put more pressure on those parts of the body doing "double duty".
It's like my office. Part of our system is a "triangle" of an accounts payable person, an accounts receivable person, and me as a file clerk. On days when we're all here, I sort paperwork and info going in and coming out, and they actually *do* stuff with the paperwork and info.
If one of us is out for the day, the other two can cover the other person's duties. We can even usually manage to do almost all of the person's daily duties in addition to our own. Doesn't mean we're all not a whole lot happier to have us all there to do one person's work, as opposed to one-and-a-half person's work. ;)
Yay, more useless babbling from Yours Truly. ;)
Peace & Luv, Liz
Quote from: oldbushie on February 25, 2004, 12:05:37 PMYeah, I meant born with no brain at all, just some kind of liquidy stuff. There are some people who are still alive and have this condition, and are well into their teens at least. They might have a thin layer of brain cells on the outer edge but have mostly fluid in their skull. And a couple of them manage to be quite intelligent too.
Observe the words 'liquidy' and 'fluid' as opposed to 'watery' and 'water'. 8)