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Title: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: TakariFreak on February 04, 2004, 10:53:15 PM
Idea stolen from uselessidguy331's topic about fave puzzle...but no need to sue for copyright infringement...I'm poor.

Here's some of mine!

KQ1 Beanstalk
KQ3 The maintain caves in Daventry
KQ4 Whale - damn that was annoying!
KQ4 Stairs to organ in mansion...'nuff said
KQ7 The darn firecraker (try doing that on a fast PC...the one time I'm THANKFUL you are allowed to continue from where you died!
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Storm on February 05, 2004, 02:38:51 PM
All those path-walking puzzles are annoying... But I choose KQ4's whale. So irritating, you can't even see WHERE you're supposed to walk unless you use the debugging mode. I think I gave it up as impossible the first time I played it  :P

I didn't mind the KQ7 firecracker puzzle... I knew what I was supposed to do with it right away, and it let you keep playing from where you exploded... so just a couple of screens of clicking on death messages weren't going to break me  :D

TakariFreak - Why don't you make this a poll people can vote on?  ;)
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: uselessidguy331 on February 05, 2004, 05:27:06 PM
Stairs to mansion were painful.
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Yonkey on February 05, 2004, 09:16:48 PM
Yeah, anything involving tricky and narrow paths was annoying.  

For me it was avoiding those wantering dead people in KQ6.  I was following a walkthrough and the last time I saved was so far back!  Argh!  :P
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jeysie on February 06, 2004, 04:52:57 AM
Another issue was that IIRC, there wasn't even any clues that touching the dead people would kill you. Bleh. Dodging them wasn't hard for me... after surviving the mummy puzzle in GK1, this was a breeze. No, the hard part for me was dodging them long enough to figure out which edge of the screen was the freakin' exit. :P

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on February 06, 2004, 05:37:09 AM
Erm, usually you don't *want* to touch dead people... ;)
At any rate, they moved so slow I always got around them easily enough. ;)
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jeysie on February 06, 2004, 10:29:49 AM
Quote from: oldbushie on February 06, 2004, 05:37:09 AMErm, usually you don't *want* to touch dead people... ;)

Yeeeessss... but there's a big difference between, say,  touching a dead person and going "Like, ew, gross!" and touching a dead person and getting dissolved into a little puddle of flesh.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on February 06, 2004, 11:04:41 AM
True, true. ::)
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jeysie on February 06, 2004, 11:08:24 AM
Don't mess with the Nitpicker. ;)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on February 06, 2004, 11:14:05 AM
Heheh. Well, at least the ghosts don't bother anyone, thankfully. ;) And I'm sure you can infer that falling into *any* mysterious fast moving river, especially a green acrid one, is bad for your health. ;)
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jeysie on February 06, 2004, 11:54:25 AM
Quote from: oldbushie on February 06, 2004, 11:14:05 AMAnd I'm sure you can infer that falling into *any* mysterious fast moving river, especially a green acrid one, is bad for your health. ;)

Well, anyone remotely versed in Greek mythology is going to know that touching the River Styx is a Bad Idea. (IIRC, touching the water of the River Styx *was* supposed to induce numbness, as it does in the KQ6 death scenes. At the very least, it was supposed to be an unhealthy thing to do.)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Storm on February 07, 2004, 07:58:07 AM
Quote from: Jeysie on February 06, 2004, 04:52:57 AM
Another issue was that IIRC, there wasn't even any clues that touching the dead people would kill you.

You should have learned that from playing KQ4  ;)
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: TakariFreak on February 07, 2004, 10:31:06 PM
Oh, another annoyance...thsu Stupid River in KQ 5!  If you try to drink from it, you fall in and drown...the death message says somethign about a "mighty river".  Uh huh, yeah.  That river is REAL mighty, eh?
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jstny on February 16, 2004, 06:41:55 AM
This was not a puzzle really, but I hated the Witch's House in KQ5.  I don't know why, but 9 times out of 10, I would fall into the fire-filled ravine when I walked toward the bridge.  That scream of Graham's is really annoying.

I also hated:
Mordack's Maze-KQ5
Tripping on Cat-KQ3
Manannan's Spell, that using the bookwords would cause you to die-KQ3
Getting by Lolotte's Guards-KQ4
Catacomb Tiles...until I figured them out-KQ6
Fire, Ruby Hammer and chisel and dragon scale...too much walking back and forth-KQ7

I stil love KQ to this day.

Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: uselessidguy331 on February 16, 2004, 08:03:52 PM
The worst puzzle of all is the copyright stuff in KQ5 that randomly pops up. It's idiotic. I hated the desert in KQ5 as well...without a map it was hard to get through, and I couldn't figure out how to hide behind the rocks from the bandits...until I was told that you just kinda stood beside them. That made me pretty mad.
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: etgadsby on February 17, 2004, 08:48:00 AM
I’d have to side with TakariFreak about the beanstalk in KQ1. In particular playing that part of the game through Sarien (http://sarien.sourceforge.net/) proved a major pain in the butt. Then again I vaguely remember an evil music puzzle in KQ VII.
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on February 17, 2004, 03:23:47 PM
Hrm... the most annoying puzzle in general (not KQ) would have to be the spiderweb in Beyond Atlantis. I took me ages to get past that stupid thing, even with a walkthrough. :P
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Jimi on July 04, 2004, 11:37:14 AM
The troll in the caves in KQ4.

It wasn't hard, but god, did it scare the hell out of me.

I've also rather disliked the cliffs of logic, it might be for the fact that my hand-eye coordination wasn't great back then... but most likely for the reason that I didn't have the handbook, and I called my friend who did and he just described the shapes for me -_-;;
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Draco9898 on July 05, 2004, 06:38:52 PM
The exploding rocks in KQ 2 becase I didn't fully read the puzzle clue about the 2nd rock from the right..

I got killed +7 times  :suffer:

that and the K'sQ 1 Rumplestiltskin one...kept spelling it 'Rumpelstiltskin' and I was like WTF? That's correct, stupid thing  XB
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Questing Character on July 09, 2004, 07:21:58 PM
-KQ3 mountain path
-KQ1 beanstalk
-KQ4 troll
-KQ4 getting by the henchmen
-KQ7 that damn harp!!
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: zerogravityfire on July 16, 2004, 10:14:11 AM
Almost every KQ had their hated parts;

KQ 1 = the beanstalk
KQ 2 = the thorny path(until I figured out that you're not supposed to kill the snake:})
KQ3 = the path down from Mannanan's and the mountain climb, the spell casting
KQ 4 = the mansion stairs, the troll, the path down from Lolotte's, the WHALE TONGUE!
KQ 5 = CEDRIC!
KQ 6 = the logic cliffs' stepping stones, the catacombs
KQ 7 = the firecracker  
KQ 8 = the DoD

We wonder what KQ 9 will have to frustrate the h*ck out of us? ;)

But looking at all this and then the topic at hand, "most annoying KQ puzzles", all these are irrelevant, aren't they? A puzzle is a intelletual difficulty and these are more dexterity/hand-eye coordination/patience/random luck difficulties.

As far as puzzles go for me personally, I couldn't figure out the gnome name in KQ 1 for the longest time and my bald spot is because of that! That one has to be the worst one. I mean I knew the name "Rumplestiltskin" but to have to do the whole saying-it-backwards-after-having-matched-it-alphabetically-to-a-reverse-alphabet-crap was so out there I could've killed the guy who thought it up.

Anyway that's my humble opinion...
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Moodyblues on July 21, 2004, 10:44:45 PM
KQ4:  The three hags.  It took me forever to get in the right place to steal that flipping eye.
KQ5:  Gah... too... many... mazes...  The one in Mordack's castle is the worst, though.  You can't even tell what direction you're in!
KQ6:  Um... I used a walkthrough for the whole thing.  *shame!*
KQ7:  Uh, that firecracker was irritating, I guess.
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Questing Character on July 23, 2004, 09:02:54 PM
I can't believe I forgot the hags in KQ4! How I hate them!
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Yonkey on July 24, 2004, 08:41:05 PM
Poor hags, they're always cast as antagonists.  ::)

;P
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: uselessidguy331 on January 17, 2005, 01:27:07 PM
Bumpity bump bump.


THE most annoying KQ puzzle was definately the chasm thing in KQ4. That was the worst. The whole area behind the chasm with the snake and the swamp was hard, the troll, the witches, the EVERYTHING. That game was friggin' impossible.



By the way...big post number 250...and this is nearly ONE YEAR after I joined these forums!  :-\
Title: Re:Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on June 29, 2005, 06:46:55 PM
*gets lost in KQ7's Dreamland*  ::)
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Deloria on January 08, 2006, 09:01:15 AM
KQ1: Gnomes name
KQ2: Cloak and Ring thing
KQ3:Spell casting and not having the right ingredients
KQ4:Whale tongue and troll cave
KQ5:Mordack's maze
KQ6:Cliffs of logic puzzle with sacred four
KQ7:the fates!
KQ8:lava and prime number puzzle
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Oldbushie on January 08, 2006, 11:00:37 AM
I agree, KQ3 had very long spells... XD And if you even slightly misspelled you went POOF.
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Deloria on January 08, 2006, 01:12:11 PM
Talk about Typos. Oneerror and you went "poof".
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: KingGraham on January 08, 2006, 07:39:15 PM
KQI,II: No EXTREMLY hard puzzles
KQIII: The stupid spell making and mountain trail!
KQIV: CAn't remember offhand
KQV: Mountain path, Yeti, desert maze, Mordak maze
KQVI: Catacombs, climb up the Sacred Mountain
KQVII: The graveyard, the stupid part where the guy has a shovel that you have to grab (I could never figure that stupid part out! It was very annoying when I found out that all you had to do was grab the shovel!), the firecraker.
KQVIII:The stupid Dimension of Death puzzles!
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Deloria on January 14, 2006, 02:00:16 AM
DOD didn't have any real puzzles, except for gathering the things and occasionally jumping.
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: KingGraham on January 14, 2006, 02:05:22 PM
Quote from: Deloria on January 14, 2006, 02:00:16 AM
DOD didn't have any real puzzles, except for gathering the things and occasionally jumping.
The thing where you had to jump around on the platforms with the symbols that were above the door. That was kinda hard...  ::)
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: uselessidguy331 on January 17, 2006, 03:37:20 PM
King's Quest One: The gnome's name (IMPOSSIBLE to figure out without hint guide).

King's Quest Two (Remake): Just about everything. This was a HARD game, but it was the most complete King's Quest that I've ever played, so it was worth it. There were too many tough parts, ESPECIALLY the entire final ring stage at nighttime, which was eerie and hard.

King's Quest Three: Spell Casting

King's Quest Four: EVERYTHING. The hardest King's Quest ever. The chasm, the whole snake/lillypad part, the whale, the three hags, and the GODDAMN broken-shovel dead end which ruined the entire game. It's still one of my favorite KQ's, but DAMN!

King's Quest Five: Hmm, probably the whole witch part or everything in the desert. It wasn't tremendously hard, but it was definately an entertaining one.

King's Quest Six: The catacombs and the CLIFFS OF LOGIC! ARGH!

King's Quest Seven: The whole Rock Spirit guy just pissed me off because he'd always blow me away. The boogeyman stuff was difficult and obviously all of chapter five was a PAIN.

Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Gilgamesh on January 17, 2006, 03:54:38 PM
KQ 1: not realy played yet
KQ 2: idem
KQ 3: the spellbook and the cliff of many falls or deaths
KQ 4: unknown
KQ 5: unknown
KQ 6: The order of the puzzle to get the lamp must be right
KQ 7: The firework blows up one time before you reach the spot
KQ 8: the river of death one you are a bit too close imminent death will be yours.

KQ9: I'll have to wait and see.

That rounds it up for now
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Aldrius on March 11, 2006, 07:55:38 PM
Every puzzle in KQ5 is a pain in the rear without a walkthrough. (Though to be fair I couldn't even solve KQ3 with a walkthrough)

I mean some of that stuff is ridiculous. It's all random-clicking and guess-work. Using a bag of peas to slip up a big monster that's coming after you!? Atleast KQ6's puzzles made sense, and there were a few hints as to what you had to do. (The Arch-Druid telling you about the Knight, Jollo basically telling you to buy the lamp after faking your death. Though befriending Jollo was kinda silly to figure out. So was the book to the Oyster...)

Yeah, difficulty-wise, KQ5 had billions of dead-ends and obscure puzzles involving pies and peas and stuff. KQ6 had a few, but they weren't nearly as obscure.

After re-playing KQ6, the only thing I needed a walkthrough for was the fourth puzzle on the cliffs of logic, nothing was implied. It made me a sad Aldrius.
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Deloria on March 11, 2006, 08:27:57 PM
You need to read the manual, thoroughly. It says what the sacred four are (or just read my fan-fic "The ancient ones" :P)
Title: Re: Most annoying KQ puzzle
Post by: Rosella on March 12, 2006, 04:12:36 AM
I finished KQ3 without a walkthrough. :P