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Title: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: PurplePhoenix on November 24, 2009, 12:03:38 PM
Hiya all.
Iv been lurking for a while, as many people have, and im a little confused.

As I understand it, the game was originally going to be a trilogy, which, in total, was 9 chapters.
However, due to various reasons, only 2 of the 9 original chapters will be released.

Now, presuming that the whole storyline and the entire script for all 9 chapters would have been written before coding started, will we have an ending for the game?
I'm not very good at phrasing things; are the storylines being modified so that it will function as a complete game at time of release, or will the team be releasing the script and/or storyboards after the game is released, so that people who have played through the game will be able to read the rest of the storyline?

I'm sure im not the only one who has been confused by this; I'm worried that i'l play this game once it's released, then get to the end of chapter 2 and be left at a complete never-to-be-resolved cliffhanger.

Still, I'm sure that the team has taken that into consideration. I get the impression that they will have figured all this out already.

To the team; you truly are brilliant people. Not many would put all this time and effort in for free.

Regards,
BeeJay
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: liggy002 on November 24, 2009, 03:22:05 PM
Hey there,

I'm not a member of the team but i can tell you this:  the team never said that we were guaranteed to NOT get the remaining chapters, they only said that there was no guarantee we would get them.  So, in effect, the future of TSL is uncertain at the moment as far as I know.  I imagine, as a result, that they would leave the first two chapters on a cliffhanger.  After all, they wouldn't want to complete the story at that stage if there was a chance we would get the rest of the games.  If we don't get the games, they will probably find another medium through which to complete the rest of the story as you have said.

On a brighter note, i'm sure the fans don't want TSL to end here.  So, we will collectively find a way to get the rest of the games out there.  As fans we are very persistent and will find some away around this debacle but I don't doubt that the team will devise some ingenious solution to see the chapters complete anyway.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Rosella on November 24, 2009, 03:25:45 PM
As I understand it, for the most part, the plot for the first two chapters is unchanged. However, there is a small part that has been added to the end to resolve any loose ends. This addition will not give away the plot from the rest of the chapters (too much).

The rest of the plot for chapter 3 MAY be released in some form, but the plot for chapters 4-9 is likely going to be left entirely unknown, unless Vivendi and the team can reach some sort of agreement involving the TSL team getting paid for it. :P
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: daventry on November 25, 2009, 03:25:51 AM
I thought there were Only 3 Chapters, where did this 9 come from and what are the Chapter Names again  ???

So what you guys are saying is, we will get Quart of the Game and thats for TSL.  ???

When can we expect the Full Game already, is TSL Dead and the Team are just playing around with us for Another Year.  ???
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: koko_99_2001 on November 25, 2009, 05:16:03 AM
There are 9 chapters, which were planned to be released in 3 parts.

TSL is not dead. As an official beta tester, some amazing work is getting done. I seriously doubt that the team is "just playing around with us for another year."
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: daventry on November 25, 2009, 05:22:10 AM
When can we have aNew Update or a New Screen or a New Demo ora New Trailer, does this mean we will get TSL by the End of December.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: koko_99_2001 on November 25, 2009, 05:36:47 AM
I don't believe I said that it'll be given to the fans by the end of December. I don't know when it will be put out there for you guys. What I do know is that the team has hit some MAJOR milestones over the last few weeks.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Yonkey on November 25, 2009, 09:20:52 PM
The future of TSL is a pretty big unknown.  It will entirely depend on how well received the first two chapters are.  One thing we know for certain is that the remaining chapters won't be developed by us for free.

We can't say for certain when the game will be released yet, since there's still more work to be done, but as Cat said, we have hit some major milestones these past few weeks that we thought we'd never hit.  All we can do now is keep pushing forward! ;D
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: PurplePhoenix on November 27, 2009, 04:18:45 PM
Thanks to you all for your help in clearing that up for me.
From playing the demo I know that whenever it get released, no matter how much of the original storyline has been integrated, it will be a hit.
Really looking forward to it guys, keep up the good work.
BeeJay
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Haids1987 on November 28, 2009, 02:54:31 PM
...as Cat said, we have hit some major milestones these past few weeks that we thought we'd never hit.
I know that most of that information is top secret, but would you mind sharing a few of these "milestones" with us?  It gets us so excited to hear the accomplishments--big or small--within the development team!  Any tiny piece of information--whether you programmed the correct animation for the movement of Graham's hand or changed a plot element--is exciting!
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Yonkey on November 28, 2009, 09:03:45 PM
Unfortunately, I can't get into any specifics right now.  All I can say is that there are some major milestones we need to hit prior to release, and the first of which was completed 2 weeks ago. :)
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Haids1987 on November 28, 2009, 11:44:30 PM
Congrats!  But thanks anyway.  It's not just that I'm impatient ( ;D), I just love to hear what you guys are up to.  It's exciting and makes it more real to me.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Delling on November 30, 2009, 11:12:26 AM
Can you tell us how many such milestones there are? If we make no assumption of the size of said milestones or of the difficulty of completing them, that doesn't give us a time limit or release date, but it does give you a way to communicate progress in terms of the milestones... it also opens the doors for rampant speculation on said size and difficulty... which I'm told is the bread and butter of internet forum discussions. :P
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Yonkey on November 30, 2009, 06:04:41 PM
Interesting... 8)

There are 2 more of a similar nature, 2 more which are non-development related, and 2 more which need to be done post-release. :P
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Haids1987 on November 30, 2009, 07:46:25 PM
Hmm, "non development related."  We can only speculate as to what that might mean...any ideas, anyone?  ;D
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: fred on December 01, 2009, 03:37:17 AM
hey guys & girls,
I'm waiting with my kids for the release of this game since....I don't remember when...I promise myself not to register and complain as, after all, this is a pure product of your kindness but...well...we're getting really impatient over here and these stories of release dates and milestones are getting esoteric (is it a part of the Quest to come ?  ;) )
So well, what to say ? good luck. We hope it will come soon
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Haids1987 on December 01, 2009, 03:23:59 PM
**Sigh**

Allow me to quote myself:

It's funny to me how upset people are getting over the "projected release time" and the changing dates.  I know we've been waiting a long time, but seriously, how much of most of your everyday lives are dedicated to obsessing over TSL?  (I'm excluding the beta testers and the programmers, of course.  You guys have an excuse.  :))  I mean, it's important to me and I'm fully supportive of the creators and so appreciate their work, but honestly, I don't think about TSL every minute of every hour of every day.  

When I sign on and post, then look at the screenshots and other media files, I get really excited and anxious for it to come out.  Other than that, though, I don't really give it too much more thought.  Sure, it crosses my mind every now and then throughout the day, but regarding its release date and development...come on guys, be patient.  

If I'm correct, most of you probably also only feel yourselves getting frustrated about the ever-changing dates during a small part of the day, so calm down.  It's not worth being so pessimistic and angsty over.  The game will come out when it comes out, and it will have been worth the wait.  If it takes another year, so be it.  Let's quit speculating and have confidence in the team we all believe so much in. <3
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: liggy002 on December 01, 2009, 04:16:52 PM
Well, if I had to guess i'd say that we're probably going to get an update around Christmas time.  If the team does indeed hit its milestones by the end of the year, the game should be just about ready to be submitted to Vivendi.  I seriously doubt it'll take another year for all of this unless the team decides that they would like to add on more content.  This is nothing but a guess but I think it'll be ready or near ready by year's end.

Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: fred on December 02, 2009, 03:35:47 AM
Hum... ! well, there is some truth in that. I guess having the release date being reported regularly is just sustaining the wait for it to a higher level than it should be. From my part I check this site many times. It has became a family tradition to play King Quests games and as we completed all the other quests, we're getting "thirsty". However we're hopefully not obsessive gamers ! Just getting irritated, I confess. I also confess it's not legitimate. And I hopefully have a lot of other reasons to be irritated ! That's a choice in fact : we don't spend a lot of times playing on the computer, I try not to let my kids play alone. We play together for a limited piece of time, it's more convivial. We only play good games with less violence as possible, we only play freeware as we usually don't want to spend money on that, we don't download pirated games as it's illegal. So here is the price to pay...worth it, no doubt at all about that... :D
 
**Sigh**

Allow me to quote myself:

It's funny to me how upset people are getting over the "projected release time" and the changing dates.  I know we've been waiting a long time, but seriously, how much of most of your everyday lives are dedicated to obsessing over TSL?  (I'm excluding the beta testers and the programmers, of course.  You guys have an excuse.  :))  I mean, it's important to me and I'm fully supportive of the creators and so appreciate their work, but honestly, I don't think about TSL every minute of every hour of every day.  

When I sign on and post, then look at the screenshots and other media files, I get really excited and anxious for it to come out.  Other than that, though, I don't really give it too much more thought.  Sure, it crosses my mind every now and then throughout the day, but regarding its release date and development...come on guys, be patient.  

If I'm correct, most of you probably also only feel yourselves getting frustrated about the ever-changing dates during a small part of the day, so calm down.  It's not worth being so pessimistic and angsty over.  The game will come out when it comes out, and it will have been worth the wait.  If it takes another year, so be it.  Let's quit speculating and have confidence in the team we all believe so much in. <3


(Posted on: December 02, 2009, 02:11:48 AM)


One thing more :
I've been a Java/J2EE and web developer. I have no work right now and plenty of time so if I can be of any use for beta testing or programming, I would enjoy.
 
Title: TSL
Post by: liggy002 on December 03, 2009, 07:17:46 PM
Well, thats the beautiful thing about this game  ;D  It originally was pirated but was given a green light by Vivendi soon after.  So, in essence, we are getting a beautiful piece of free loot in this game.  It's like steaing gold out of a leprechaun's pot and then he lets you have it after.

A free King's Quest Game?  YES PLEASE!  ;D
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Rosella on December 04, 2009, 02:50:47 PM
But before the leprechaun'll let you keep it, some of your friends have to go through several time-consuming tasks. You don't get angry at someone who's doing so much work for you just so that you can have something you probably never thought you could have in the first place. :P
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: liggy002 on December 04, 2009, 07:04:17 PM
Absolutely.  The team is working hard and we all need to be patient.  Show them your full support guys and gals.

But before the leprechaun'll let you keep it, some of your friends have to go through several time-consuming tasks. You don't get angry at someone who's doing so much work for you just so that you can have something you probably never thought you could have in the first place. :P
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: cygnus on December 09, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
Hi

i haven't chedked on this in a month or so and was wondering if there is any new info on the release date or if it's been sent to Vivendi for approval

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: dark-daventry on December 09, 2009, 10:24:17 AM
at this moment in time, there is no word on whether or not the game has been sent to vivendi for approval. when any new information is released especially regarding the release, rest assured that the main page of the website will reflect that. you can also follow the team on twitter where any updates on the game's status will be posted. the twitter link is as follows: http://www.twitter.com/tsl_game.

however, it has been recently stated that the team has hit a major milestone, and that, while they have a few more to hit, they shouldn't be as hard to attain.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Kaelon on December 18, 2009, 09:23:40 PM
My understanding is that Vivendi no longer owns the rights to King's Quest, and with the sale of its gaming division to Activision Blizzard, the TSL crew would need to essentially start over from scratch to obtain approvals to even make this game.  Is this correct?
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: dark-daventry on December 19, 2009, 06:10:24 PM
My understanding is that Vivendi no longer owns the rights to King's Quest, and with the sale of its gaming division to Activision Blizzard, the TSL crew would need to essentially start over from scratch to obtain approvals to even make this game.  Is this correct?

Actually, no. Activision-Blizzard has stated that they will honor any existing agreements that Vivendi made, but no future fan licenses shall be issued. So the TSL team is permitted to finish the game as per their agreement with Vivendi. Also, Vivendi did not sell to Activision. It was actually a merger. Activision got the controlling share to my knowledge.
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Haids1987 on December 20, 2009, 12:48:03 AM
That's good to hear.  I was worried when I read what Kaelon had to say.  :)
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: Suzie on December 20, 2009, 03:51:22 AM
Also happy to hear this. :)
Title: Re: Confusion about the future of the game.
Post by: dark-daventry on December 21, 2009, 07:30:41 AM
It would be a very long, arduous process if the team had to go through all that stuff again. If they had to, they wouldn't have won. The reason for that is because Activision-Blizzard doesn't give out fan licenses. They apparently are against them. Thank god the team is allowed to finish the game. You guys would be waiting a much longer time than you are now. Also, another thing to note: When Vivendi and Activision merged, Activision had every intention of selling most of Vivendi's IP, and only keeping those that they believe to be the most financially viable. It seems that they kept King's Quest, Space Quest and Police Quest, seeing as how Activision put the collections for those three series on Steam earlier this year. They did however sell Leisure Suit Larry to Codemasters, who finished and published Box Office Bust (which, to my knowledge, was a bust in itself.)