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Title: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Cez on May 03, 2010, 03:03:28 PM
*wink, wink*

http://kotaku.com/5529809/the-sequel-they-had-no-right-to-make--now-has-a-surprise-twist
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Tolin on May 03, 2010, 03:19:00 PM
I read it, then promptly came here.  I'm reservedly happy about the possibilities here.  I don't want to get my hopes too high... but...

oh... there they go, flying into the sky.  Silly hopes.  :D

Honestly, I read it and caught myself grinning like a total idiot several times while doing so.  It's a great article that plays to my nostalgia and reminding me how much of my time I've personally invested in discussing and caring about this game both on and offline.  I had friends who offered genuine  "Geez... heard about that game you talked about.  That sucks." statements.

I've been a semi-lurker for such a long time, with periods of greater activity, but this has always been a place where I can find several like minded individuals.  We all enjoyed the original games (though I'm sure some of you would question MoE's validity in that definition - I don't know what's wrong with you people, it wasn't THAT bad... just VERY. VERY different) and we all bear emotional ties in one way or another to them.

I'm glad to be a part of this community.
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: atec123 on May 03, 2010, 03:46:00 PM
shall I post this to the website?
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on May 03, 2010, 03:53:11 PM
owww! great read! hope it works out well!  :o
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: KatieHal on May 03, 2010, 04:05:22 PM
Atec--please do! :)

I'm so happy to see this article out at last, and I love it!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: koko_99_2001 on May 03, 2010, 04:15:32 PM
Amazingly well written! :D Love it!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Delling on May 03, 2010, 04:27:24 PM
I think my absolutely favorite response to the article is "open door" because how else do you win in a KQ game if you can't somehow "open door"! XD

*agrees with Cat that it's really well written too*
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on May 03, 2010, 04:50:27 PM
They mispelled CÚsars last name though!  :P
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Cez on May 03, 2010, 05:02:43 PM
That has now been fixed!

:)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Erpy on May 03, 2010, 06:01:33 PM
That would explain the C&D and why Activision didn't know about you...without those contracts there was no official license in place, and licenses-in-the-making weren't part of the legal file cabinet when it was transferred from VU to AV.

What I don't understand is how this could have happened. When AGDI got its fan license, VU was pretty clear about needing signed contracts sent over. (of course, they had to be clear since two of our games were already out back then) They needed those documents before we were even allowed to put a disclaimer on our site stating we had permission. When you sent virtual signatures, didn't you get a correction? Did they say "yes" when you asked them at the end: "is this all you need" only to change it to "no" later?

As for the talk with Activision, does this mean the only way to get off the hook is to pay Activision or is there still a chance of getting a fan license?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashum.jpg)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Cez on May 03, 2010, 09:46:23 PM
Erpy,

There were misunderstandings from both sides and much got lost in the merging. All that is in the past now, however. The important thing is that we are talking to them again at the moment. We will give you details as soon as we know more.

Thanks!
Cesar Bittar
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on May 03, 2010, 10:40:52 PM
Post this article on the website, Atec. I haven't headed there yet so if you have, you're great!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: GoneTooLong on May 04, 2010, 04:30:08 AM
Glad to hear things have taken a positive turn. I hope it leads to more good news in the future. You guys have earned it.

Great team photo, by the way!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Erpy on May 04, 2010, 04:47:28 AM
That's quite a costly blunder then, since they could afford to have miscommunications with you, but you could not afford to miscommunicate with them.

It's good you got to talk to them again and see if things can be worked out though. It's an interesting development. I assume, since the article mentioned "businessmen" this is a definite turn in the commercial direction. If you could indeed afford to buy the KQ series, can you still afford to give away the almost-completed first part for free?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashshp.jpg)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: RollingStone on May 04, 2010, 09:44:14 AM
The Demographic Survey might come in handy for figuring this out. I remember one of the questions was whether we'd be willing to buy the game. (I said yes, of course.)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: snabbott on May 04, 2010, 10:35:28 AM
Great article!

*is cautiously optimistic* :)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Haids1987 on May 05, 2010, 03:17:08 PM
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

My heart is thudding right now.  Exciting stuff!  But, like Snabbot, I'm going to be "cautiously optimistic." 

Don't stop believing, guys!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on May 05, 2010, 05:14:14 PM
A belief, a dream and an hope can be powerful. Keep spreading the word around and keep those petitions coming. This article is uplifting and is a good sign of all our hard work, you all should be proud of yourselves.  ;)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Cez on May 07, 2010, 12:00:09 PM
It was unfortunate. Problem was that the misunderstanding from their point of view made things look alright. But again, I'm just glad that we are talking again.

I cannot discuss anything of what we are discussing with Activision at the moment, because, well, we are still waiting for answers ourselves. We'll let you guys know as soon as I heard some news.

On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :) :suffer:

That's quite a costly blunder then, since they could afford to have miscommunications with you, but you could not afford to miscommunicate with them.

It's good you got to talk to them again and see if things can be worked out though. It's an interesting development. I assume, since the article mentioned "businessmen" this is a definite turn in the commercial direction. If you could indeed afford to buy the KQ series, can you still afford to give away the almost-completed first part for free?

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashshp.jpg)

KITTY EDIT: added the :suffer: that Cesar forgot. :cat:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on May 07, 2010, 12:14:14 PM
On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)

...only thing this misses is a suffer smiley  :'( :'(
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: atec123 on May 07, 2010, 12:29:33 PM
On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)

...only thing this misses is a suffer smiley  :'( :'(
yeah.
 :suffer:
there ya go.
not that I've seen it. :P
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Delling on May 07, 2010, 12:41:21 PM
:'( You all beat me to the :suffer:  ::)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on May 07, 2010, 03:01:38 PM
 :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
Not the suffer agian.
 :)


On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :)


Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: koko_99_2001 on May 07, 2010, 03:59:35 PM
Hmmm...I might just edit Cesar's post to add a suffer :P
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Delling on May 07, 2010, 04:04:37 PM
DO IT!! Honestly, it's a serious breach of tradition! *protests*
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Erpy on May 07, 2010, 05:40:45 PM
Quote
I cannot discuss anything of what we are discussing with Activision at the moment, because, well, we are still waiting for answers ourselves. We'll let you guys know as soon as I heard some news.

Thanks for answering that. I'm kinda curious what they have in mind for you.

And it's good to see you can still play your own game and actually enjoy it. ;)

(http://www.agdiforums.com/forum/images/avatars/moodpics/Nashlaug.jpg)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Delling on May 07, 2010, 06:27:39 PM
Hmmm...I might just edit Cesar's post to add a suffer :P
OMGYAY! She did do it! :D
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: oberonqa on May 08, 2010, 11:53:12 AM
hehe.... gotta love the suffer.  :)  :suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Haids1987 on May 08, 2010, 02:33:37 PM
I don't understand the suffer!  :'(  I feel so out of the loop.
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on May 08, 2010, 02:45:11 PM
I remember CÚsar posting a giant suffer once, horrible!  :'(
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on May 08, 2010, 06:43:05 PM
I don't understand the suffer!  :'(  I feel so out of the loop.

We are talking about Cesar's post and how it is making us suffer.

On a side note, I was playing through the game last night, and man, the intro is awesome!!!! It's probably one of my favorite things from the game. 6 minutes of cinematic heaven :) :suffer:
KITTY EDIT: added the :suffer: that Cesar forgot. :cat:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Tage7 on May 08, 2010, 07:10:06 PM
Could Haids be referring to how a lot of us here worship :suffer:. This reminds me of my really cheesy first flash movie (http://www.tage7.net/TSL/SufferQuestI/SufferQuestI.html). ::)

OBEY THE SUFFER!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on May 08, 2010, 07:16:18 PM
That made me laugh so hard. I guess Graham never heard 'Stranger Danger.' Great video!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Rider Jetfire on May 08, 2010, 09:37:36 PM
That was amazing.  Oh Graham ::)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Angelic_Sabyne on May 08, 2010, 10:44:05 PM
Could Haids be referring to how a lot of us here worship :suffer:. This reminds me of my really cheesy first flash movie (http://www.tage7.net/TSL/SufferQuestI/SufferQuestI.html). ::)

OBEY THE SUFFER!
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

That so totally made my night.  :)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on May 09, 2010, 12:27:47 AM
Haha, Tage, that was funny  :P

But people should not worship the suffer nor obey it, the suffer is bad, pure evil. introduced by the TSL team (or KQ9 back then) to torture the fans!  :'(
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Haids1987 on May 09, 2010, 11:46:01 AM
Thank you, Rob.  That's the explanation I was looking for!
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Tage7 on May 09, 2010, 04:43:05 PM
But people should not worship the suffer nor obey it, the suffer is bad, pure evil. introduced by the TSL team (or KQ9 back then) to torture the fans!  :'(
:suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: copycat on June 09, 2010, 04:54:16 PM
As Official Shadows Beta Tester (ret.) I would like to say the use of :suffer: is strictly reserved for those active in the team.
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: atec123 on June 09, 2010, 06:22:38 PM
As Official Shadows Beta Tester (ret.) I would like to say the use of :suffer: is strictly reserved for those active in the team.
do I have permission to use the suffer?

I know things that people don't know. :suffer: :suffer:

I am the leader (I think.  although I haven't really talked to waltz on the subject) of save TSL.
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: waltzdancing on June 09, 2010, 06:56:28 PM
Yes Atec you are the leader and I do think we can use the suffer.
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: B'rrr on June 10, 2010, 12:30:56 AM
If you have to ask or think you can use it, you clearly can not! *nod*nod*
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: KatieHal on June 10, 2010, 01:36:08 AM
I'd sya so Atec. You know.....things!  :suffer: :suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Tage7 on June 10, 2010, 05:00:01 AM
I know things too!
(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)(http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/Smileys/default/laugh.gif)
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: GoneTooLong on June 10, 2010, 05:51:37 AM
When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: atec123 on June 10, 2010, 06:46:05 AM
Yes Atec you are the leader and I do think we can use the suffer.
Yay!
 :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:
When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?
lol.

probably pretty soon at this rate.  the suffers keep getting bigger and bigger.

Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: snabbott on June 10, 2010, 08:39:23 AM
I know things too!
So do I! !!!
For example:
You didn't really think I was going to reveal anything, did you? :suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Tage7 on June 17, 2010, 01:18:24 PM
When should we start referring to you as Neil 2.0, Tage?
lol.

probably pretty soon at this rate.  the suffers keep getting bigger and bigger.
Lol! I'm innocent! :angel:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Yonkey on June 18, 2010, 07:37:45 PM
How ironic, so am I. :P

:suffer:
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: snabbott on June 21, 2010, 12:19:08 PM
How ironic, so am I. :P

:suffer:
Innocent? Or getting bigger? :P
Title: Re: Kotaku Article!
Post by: Yonkey on June 23, 2010, 07:18:46 AM
Both. XD