Catch all the latest news from Daventry and beyond with The Four Winds (http://www.postudios.com/fourwinds/fourwindsindex.html), back in print, and today covering the coronation of King Alexander and Queen Cassima as the new monarchs of the Land of the Green Isles!
You're kidding! This was my favorite part of the old, old light blue website. :D
This is fantastic. Are we ever going to be able to see the archives?
Suffice to say, the Four Winds won't be stopping at just one article. ;)
And I almost forgot:
12 days to go!
This is all ridiculously exciting. :D
Ooh, cool!
Awesome! Saw some of the old Four Winds that were still intact in the remains of the old blue site; good to see them back!
That is so exciting!! :D And a swell read too!! :)
Awesome, this is so exciting! Thanks, Katie! :D
I go to Fileplanet a lot to download new games files and I almost jumped out of my sit when i saw TSL was back!!! I loved reading The Four Winds before and this is a fun one to :) Thx you guys for making us KQ Fans have something again
There be something wrong with the background in my FireFox 3.6.3 in Kubuntu Linux.
As you can see, the 'parchment' background stops prematurely and I have to select (& invert colours) to see what is written at the bottom.
Smashing! I'd nearly forgotten about The Four Winds, but I remember reading the old ones too! :)
Quote from: copycat on June 28, 2010, 07:55:05 PM
There be something wrong with the background in my FireFox 3.6.3 in Kubuntu Linux.
As you can see, the 'parchment' background stops prematurely and I have to select (& invert colours) to see what is written at the bottom.
Hopefully it's fixed now.
It wasn't just me--Ryan Yoo did the designs on the new Four Winds look, and Jonathan Chan once again did a great job setting up the webpage.
Speaking of whom, CC, I'll ask if he knows why that might be happening on your browser. Actually, just talking to him now, and he thinks it might be fixed! Let me know.
As well, for those asking about the old articles, the new Four Winds is actually going to be a combination of new articles and old ones. The old ones have been re-edited and somewhat re-written, depending on what shape they were in from before, so you will get to see some of the old articles!
Quote from: KatieHal on June 28, 2010, 08:49:22 PMSpeaking of whom, CC, I'll ask if he knows why that might be happening on your browser. Actually, just talking to him now, and he thinks it might be fixed! Let me know.
It's even worse now.
Quote from: copycat on June 29, 2010, 08:38:54 AM
Quote from: KatieHal on June 28, 2010, 08:49:22 PMSpeaking of whom, CC, I'll ask if he knows why that might be happening on your browser. Actually, just talking to him now, and he thinks it might be fixed! Let me know.
It's even worse now.
Oh man. I guess I'll have to do a proper fix which'll make getting all the new issues out all the much more difficult for me. :suffer:
Quote from: Tage7 on June 29, 2010, 01:44:03 PMOh man. I guess I'll have to do a proper fix which'll make getting all the new issues out all the much more difficult for me. :suffer:
If finding out the solution for my problem interferes with anything TSL-related, please give the TSL-stuff priority. As shown in my second screenshot, I can read everything using a workaround. Looks as if I'm the only one with that problem too, but then again, I've probably got a peculiar setup as well when mailing and posting and not one I'll be able to play TSL in.
KITTY EDIT: Fixed the quote :cat:
Quote from: copycat on June 29, 2010, 03:13:40 PMIf finding out the solution for my problem interferes with anything TSL-related, please give the TSL-stuff priority. As shown in my second screenshot, I can read everything using a workaround. Looks as if I'm the only one with that problem too, but then again, I've probably got a peculiar setup as well when mailing and posting and not one I'll be able to play TSL in.
Oh, no worries friend. If you're having these problems, then I'm sure other people with peculiar setups will be having these problems too. If I can make it a more enjoyable experience for all, then I would very much like to do so. Immersion is important to me. I PMed you, btw. :)
<3 Four Winds. :D
You know I have the text from the older Four Winds up on King's Quest omnipedia thanks to wayback machine... Only thing the article is missing is the artwork from the original website. If anyone has that material saved it, and could upload it, it would be appreciated.
Extra, extra!
The Four Winds covers the Ferry restoration! (http://www.postudios.com/fourwinds/iss01-article02-1.html)
Was that bit of land intentionally left out, or was that a clever retcon?
Quote from: KatieHal on July 01, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
Extra, extra!
The Four Winds covers the Ferry restoration! (http://www.postudios.com/fourwinds/iss01-article02-1.html)
And frankly I feel it's beginning to become a lost passtime on our younger generation.I believe that should be
pastime.
This one is slightly harder to get into to edit than the blog, I'm afraid, so that errors, typos, etc, are going to have to wait until the next article goes up at least. But, thanks for the catch.
I thought I'd bring up a comparison between the official account from The King's Quest Companion and your Four Winds version.
I notice that you have have used the names Hassan (but we have known you were using that for years). You also used the idea of Shamir helping repair the ship, and the name the Island Queen from the companion. You have also used the name Hakim, which is cool.
However that's about as much as they have in common. They diverge on the timing. In the King's Quest Companion, Shamir had actually repaired the ship with magic instananeously, and actually before the marriage ceremony (that's one of the main reasons that there were visitors from the other islands at the wedding). Which occured within a few days of Alexander defeating Abdul Alhazred (pre-KQ7). Edit: This is actually stated in KQ6 by Saladin in the ending as well (the wedding took place one week after defeating Alhazred).
Granted your version is a bit more dramatic ;).
Also Hassan has a son now? He was a bachelor in KQ6/companion. How long does your version take place after KQ6?
Actually he does not. Its a fact mentioned in the TSL game that he'd like to have one some day. You could interpret his words to mean he plans to have a son and teach him when he's old enough but I'll leave it to our editor Katie to decide if the article needs to be adjusted.
Ahh, thanks. That was my second thought, that he was speaking towards the future.
Hassan is speaking towards his hypothetical future son. I wonder what'll happen if he only has daughters? :P
Well, the ferry was repaired at the end of KQ6 for immediate need, but you know Hassan. He insisted on re-building the ferry with his own hands (as well as the docks and office). He accepted the new wood and help from Shamir, but insisted on going through the ship building process proper.
He also insisted on a strict 'no mint while working' policy after the incident with the land disappearing, though. ;)
Quoteand office
Rebuilding the office? They didnt' have an office before, no need for it, heh heh. It is the royal ferry and service, its owned and supported by 'the Crown' (socialism ;)), hassan's family were for generations the royal mariners. I've played the demo, and know how greedy Hassan has become, charging people money for something that's supposed to be free (while acting like he hasn't been paid enough, and needs more money). ;)
Granted he's starting to hire crew members, which his ancestors never did either. Guess he needs to, as he doesn't have a son to teach the secrets of navigation to, and if he dies, or is accidently killed, someone else will need to know those secrets. It could be a huge problem, if he is the only one that knows secret and doesn't pass it on. It's just asking for problems.
Perhaps his "office" is a night school for teaching new navigators ; http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/King's_Questions; If the captain in King's Questions isn't Hassan someone had to teach him how to navigate around the Green Isles.
QuoteI helped my father build the last ferry and it served well for years.
Hmm, ya, his father didn't actually build the, "the Ferry", the Island Queen. According to Guidebook to the Land to the Green Isles, and Companion, the same ship had been used for generations long before Derek Karlavaegan came to the island. It was always well maintained.
If you keep a ship well maintained it can last centuries.
I think at this point we're just going to have to say that our game doesn't quite share all the same details as the King's Quest Companion, Baggins. :)
Quoteour game doesn't quite share all the same details as the King's Quest Companion,
...or the Guidebook to the Land of the Green Isles (& certain details within KQ6) :suffer: :suffer: :suffer: ;D
There's gotta be a smiley with a hammer around here somewhere..... :P
Well there is :say: and :stabs: :devil:
or :wall: if you were planning the hammer on yourself anyways
Quote from: B'rrr on July 03, 2010, 02:13:03 AM
or :wall: if you were planning the hammer on yourself anyways
I'm rather partial to that one.
:furious: haha, or this one!
Will you knock if off with all the smiley-posts? I have this thread 'monitored' in order to counter my own forgetfulness and as such not miss 'new' articles and when I see all of these new posts are just fluff I might lose interest :bob: :stop:
PS: I will never lose interest in TSL. :D
I made some updates to Island Queen article, and Society of the Black Cloak, adding in a summery of the Green Isles conspiracy. I added in Saladin's quote from KQ6, as reference;
Quote".Saladin (KQ6): "With Shamir saved, and his power used for good, reuniting the islands will be far easier. He has already repaired the ferry. "
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Society_of_the_Black_Cloak
I'll add in other relevant quotes and references later.
Hear ye, hear ye! The Four Winds has published a proclamation (http://www.postudios.com/blog/?p=296)from King Graham!
That's not a proper 'Four Winds'-article! I just checked, it's not the 3rd article of issue 1, nor is the the 1st article of issue 2./me is busy making a banner voicing his stance on the matter
BTW, for those who don't know/remember my stance, check my sig line.
It's not a Four Winds thing just yet, but the Four Winds is 'printing' it in anticipation of covering the event itself in an upcoming article :)
(And eventually it will appear on an FW-style page)
Hmm I seem to recall that proclamation was in the original Four Winds wasn't it?
http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/Four_Winds
Ya, issue #2.
Yeah--as I said somewhere else in here, The Four Winds will be a mix of old articles, new articles, and edited versions of old articles.
Extra, extra!
Connor MacLyrr, peasant turned noble hero, was knighted and made Daventry's Captain of the Guard--and the Four Winds has the exclusive coverage! Read all about it! (http://www.postudios.com/fourwinds/iss01-article03-1.html)
It should technically be "Connor mac Lyrr", and/or "Connor Mac Lyrr". See InterAction, Fall 1996, for an example of the former. http://www.sierragamers.com/uploads/24082/Interaction/028_InterAction_Volume_9_Number_3_Fall_1996.pdf
I like the ads. I want to go see Madame Mushka.
Graham is wearing a green hat !!! heh heh.
The green hat is for formal knighting occasions. ;)
Nah, it just means your artist referenced MOE's "art design", at least in part.
(http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080110155945/kingsquest/images/c/c1/GrahampaintingMoE.JPG)
It's what he was shown wearing in the Banquit hall portrait.
As for Connor mac Lyrr, I only really have the citation for that spelling. So I can't confirm if it was ever spelled, "Connor Mac Lyrr". I don't have time to go out and look through the source to see for sure. I think the name was technically dropped from his name during the development process, so as a last name it may not be fully canon, per se. About as official as any other prototype material that was cut.
I was joking about the hat, Baggins. :P
As for his last name, well, we're going with MacLyrr.
http://www.sierragamers.com/uploads/24082/Articles/Kings_Quest_8_Product_News_CGW_98_08.pdf
Ya, there is one of the alternate, Connor Mac Lyrr spelling in CGW magazine (1998). Thought I read it at least somewhere. I wonder if it showed up in a later issue of InterAction under that spelling.
In anycase I've now updated the Connor article on the Omnipedia, to better point out that he was only referred to Connor in the official release. Unless someone has official source published during the game's release, which still states his name as Mac Lyrr, mac Lyrr, MacLyrr, or even macLyrr, I would so appreciate it.
The TLS article section, will continue to call him "Connor MacLyrr"
Also does anyone anywhere have an archive of the original Mask of Eternity website (its not on internet arhive)? I'm sure its "The Story" article would be interesting to read. To see if it gave a deeper background for Connor beyond what we saw in the game.
Quote from: Baggins on July 06, 2010, 12:36:46 PMAlso does anyone anywhere have an archive of the original Mask of Eternity website (its not on internet arhive)?
Are you talking about this (http://web.archive.org/web/19990224072153/www.sierrastudios.com/games/mask/)?
You got the load screen then it crashes after that,, for me.
The original site, was www.sierra.com/mask. It had a reddish color background, and one of the tabs was "The Story. You can see a screen grab in the above Fall 1996 issue of Interaction I posted a link to.
Really? I never waited for the animation; I just clicked the link near the top to skip it and it worked.
Ya, that's getting me in. Different site though. Shame I can't get into the classic link. The one with the red background. Would be helpful for development history.
But thanks for this link just the same. its very helpful.
Quote from: Baggins on July 06, 2010, 03:00:17 PM
Ya, that's getting me in.
Yeah...I'm guessing a hotlink is programmed into the flash animation and therefore breaks the Wayback Machine if you let it play out.
Quote from: Baggins on July 06, 2010, 03:00:17 PMDifferent site though. Shame I can't get into the classic link. The one with the red background. Would be helpful for development history.
True. I would like to see it as well; I don't recall visiting any site other than the one I linked.
Quote from: Baggins on July 06, 2010, 03:00:17 PMBut thanks for this link just the same. its very helpful.
You're welcome. :)
too bad menagerie link is broken :(.
I can't wait to visit Castle Daventry now that it's Spriggan-free! ;D
Castle Daventry never had Spriggans, the Old Castle Keep was the one with the spriggans ;).
Sorry, my bad. Been a while since I played 8...
It's ok, for a while I thought the Old Castle Keep was the classic Castle Daventry from the old games (since it shared a similar shape). Until I found out otherwise, LOL.