A question...
Why the decision to give Alex a spikey hair cut? What prompted it? It doesn't seem very medieval or anything near the period KQ seems to take place in.
Well there was this ..... incident ..... on the Isle of Wonder. We'll just say that Alexander finally learned not to run with scissors, and the hole in the wall learned to stay off the sidewalk.
Quote from: wilco64256 on July 14, 2010, 10:16:54 PM
Well there was this ..... incident ..... on the Isle of Wonder. We'll just say that Alexander finally learned not to run with scissors, and the hole in the wall learned to stay off the sidewalk.
XD ROFLOL
To be honest, I like his new haircut. I don't know why, but to me, it just seems to work...
XD
I really like it too. :D
LOL
I have to admit... I really like it too (even if perhaps not the most fitting for the assumed time period)! It seems to fit TSL's notion of Alexander better than his KQ6 hairstyle, at least I think so.
KQ6 Alex with spikey hair... hmmm... anyone good with photoshop? XD
It all has to do with Alexander's dark secret....
[spoiler]He's a Dragonball Z fanatic! [/spoiler]
;D
he does end up looking younger then in KQ6 because of it. Or at least in my eyes he does.
*Facepalm*
And to think I was actually briefly nervous about looking at Katie's spoiler.
yea, those spoiler tags don't really help anyone! ;)
Heeheehee. :)
Uhm, I think it made him look very animé like, to be honest.
Now all we need is for Alexander to have gold hair... XD ROFLOL
Quote from: dark-daventry on July 15, 2010, 03:17:31 PM
Now all we need is for Alexander to have gold hair... XD ROFLOL
Unfortunately, the part where Alexander's powers activate was in Part 2, so no go. :-\
I think he looks hot with spikey hair. ;P
Seriously, though, I do like it. It works. And you're right, Rob, he does look younger. That's good, since he's supposed to only be 21.
If I remember my KQ Companion, isn't the year in the world of Daventry the same as ours-- only it exists in an alternate dimension where a lot of the residents branched away from our own in the medieval period. And that world grew around magic rather than science?
That being the case, I'd imagine such a commonplace modern philosophy as unique hair styles to be multiversal.
Quote from: theroachyjay on July 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
If I remember my KQ Companion, isn't the year in the world of Daventry the same as ours-- only it exists in an alternate dimension where a lot of the residents branched away from our own in the medieval period. And that world grew around magic rather than science?
That being the case, I'd imagine such a commonplace modern philosophy as unique hair styles to be multiversal.
So to summarize - Because it looks cool.
Quote from: wilco64256 on July 16, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: theroachyjay on July 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
If I remember my KQ Companion, isn't the year in the world of Daventry the same as ours-- only it exists in an alternate dimension where a lot of the residents branched away from our own in the medieval period. And that world grew around magic rather than science?
That being the case, I'd imagine such a commonplace modern philosophy as unique hair styles to be multiversal.
So to summarize - Because it looks cool.
But is "because it looks cool" really a good explanation when you're dealing with a well established (by other people) character and series?
Adding robots into the game might look cool, but that doesn't mean they'd at all fit. There are certain standards, certain guidlines, certain styles, modes or matters of doing something which define a product, a series, etc--That's why so many people disliked MoE. It shattered a lot of those standards, those guidlines, those things which we came to define King's Quest by. Calling a violet a rose does not make it a rose, no matter how much one proclaimed it to be a rose. Alexander's hair looks like an anime character's, and for a pseudo-Fantasy/Medieval world, it does not fit.
Spikey hair= 21st century.
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on August 02, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: wilco64256 on July 16, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: theroachyjay on July 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
If I remember my KQ Companion, isn't the year in the world of Daventry the same as ours-- only it exists in an alternate dimension where a lot of the residents branched away from our own in the medieval period. And that world grew around magic rather than science?
That being the case, I'd imagine such a commonplace modern philosophy as unique hair styles to be multiversal.
So to summarize - Because it looks cool.
But is "because it looks cool" really a good explanation when you're dealing with a well established (by other people) character and series?
Adding robots into the game might look cool, but that doesn't mean they'd at all fit. There are certain standards, certain guidlines, certain styles, modes or matters of doing something which define a product, a series, etc--That's why so many people disliked MoE. It shattered a lot of those standards, those guidlines, those things which we came to define King's Quest by. Calling a violet a rose does not make it a rose, no matter how much one proclaimed it to be a rose. Alexander's hair looks like an anime character's, and for a pseudo-Fantasy/Medieval world, it does not fit.
Spikey hair= 21st century.
It's to modernize the series. Does it fit in the medieval setting that King's Quest portrays? No, but then again, I didn't think Alex's slicked-back hair in KQ6 was very medieval appropriate either. Who did he think he was? John Travolta?
Regardless of it's relevance to the game's era, the hairstyle is really used "to look cool", and I personally think that that is a fine explanation when dealing with a well established character and series.
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on August 02, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: wilco64256 on July 16, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
So to summarize - Because it looks cool.
But is "because it looks cool" really a good explanation when you're dealing with a well established (by other people) character and series?
Adding robots into the game might look cool, but that doesn't mean they'd at all fit. There are certain standards, certain guidlines, certain styles, modes or matters of doing something which define a product, a series, etc--That's why so many people disliked MoE. It shattered a lot of those standards, those guidlines, those things which we came to define King's Quest by. Calling a violet a rose does not make it a rose, no matter how much one proclaimed it to be a rose. Alexander's hair looks like an anime character's, and for a pseudo-Fantasy/Medieval world, it does not fit.
Spikey hair= 21st century.
I don't mind Alexander's new look, but as a loyal KQVI fan, I must say this is a very legitimate argument. I am curious to know why the team decided to change his hairstyle, since it seemed to me that TSL has always been about bringing KQ back to its roots.
Quote from: Fierce Deity on August 02, 2010, 08:49:48 PM
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on August 02, 2010, 08:34:13 PM
Quote from: wilco64256 on July 16, 2010, 10:01:17 AM
Quote from: theroachyjay on July 16, 2010, 09:10:10 AM
If I remember my KQ Companion, isn't the year in the world of Daventry the same as ours-- only it exists in an alternate dimension where a lot of the residents branched away from our own in the medieval period. And that world grew around magic rather than science?
That being the case, I'd imagine such a commonplace modern philosophy as unique hair styles to be multiversal.
So to summarize - Because it looks cool.
But is "because it looks cool" really a good explanation when you're dealing with a well established (by other people) character and series?
Adding robots into the game might look cool, but that doesn't mean they'd at all fit. There are certain standards, certain guidlines, certain styles, modes or matters of doing something which define a product, a series, etc--That's why so many people disliked MoE. It shattered a lot of those standards, those guidlines, those things which we came to define King's Quest by. Calling a violet a rose does not make it a rose, no matter how much one proclaimed it to be a rose. Alexander's hair looks like an anime character's, and for a pseudo-Fantasy/Medieval world, it does not fit.
Spikey hair= 21st century.
It's to modernize the series. Does it fit in the medieval setting that King's Quest portrays? No, but then again, I didn't think Alex's slicked-back hair in KQ6 was very medieval appropriate either. Who did he think he was? John Travolta?
Regardless of it's relevance to the game's era, the hairstyle is really used "to look cool", and I personally think that that is a fine explanation when dealing with a well established character and series.
Why does the series need modernization? Also, if we're going to ''modernize'' the series by giving Alex spikey hair, why not go all the way with the rest of the characters and give King Graham a goatee and cut his hair short, and Rosella a "GI Jane" haircut or 'Liberty Spikes':
(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs30/300W/f/2008/150/c/7/Liberty_Spikes_by_Snowvalley.jpg)
Also, having a large tome which illustrates the history of popular hairstyles (It's called "Fashions in Hair: The First 5000 years" and is over 1,000 or so pages long), I can assure you that the look Alexander sported was indeed around in the early medieval-early renaissance (prior to the mid 1600s when the wigs became all the rage)
Spikey hair, at least the way his is spiked, wasn't. The only thing close to that was the Celts, who wore literally a Mohawk--No variation.
Okay, I'm gonna bow out from this argument, cause clearly there's no convincing you.
Somebody who was on the team when that decision was actually made may be able to give you a more complex explanation, but I'm sticking with it just looking cooler. Personally I think that the longer hairstyle in KQ6 made him look about 10 years older than he actually is.
Not to mention the hairstyle goes great with Alex's facial expression in Weldon's avatar. :P
Yes... Imagine the same face but with a mullet. NOT OK.
But if you're going to turn Alexander into someone who doesn't look like Alexander (for example his hair and psychotic expression), why have Alexander to begin with? Why not just make him an original character? Why re-invent the wheel? We saw how well that worked out when Roberta tried it.
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on August 02, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
But if you're going to turn Alexander into someone who doesn't look like Alexander (for example his hair and psychotic expression), why have Alexander to begin with? Why not just make him an original character? Why re-invent the wheel? We saw how well that worked out when Roberta tried it.
I don't see how Alexander's hairstyle is a "deal-breaker". Just because the artists changed his hairstyle, he needs to become a brand new character that hasn't been introduced into the series prior to this project? I'm sorry, but I fail to see your logic.
The Silver Lining is a fan-fiction project, which means that any details (as big as a plot twist or as minor as a haircut) can be disregarded by the team, if they so choose. Besides, variety is the spice of life. So I'm glad that the team tried to breathe new life into the King's Quest universe. It beats copying and pasting everything that Sierra has already made.
It's ironic that the spikey hair thing was likely done in an attempt to "modernize" the character and turn Alexander into something of a teen heartthrob, when nowadays most of the teen heartthrobs are sporting the (utterly hideous) Justin Bieber helmet head cut. LOL. I wish Alexander had THAT haircut. ;D
Ugh, I'm glad he doesn't! The bowl cut does not flatter anyone. :P
I wasn't in on Alexander's character design myself, but he's allowed to have haircuts! Though we do jokingly call it his Dragonball-Z hair, I think it's fine honestly. It's not like it's ridiculously huge or big or anything.
I myself find it hard to make historical parallels--some, yes, but detailed ones are difficult when Daventry is clearly not Earth (yes, I know, there's some quote from Roberta saying it is, but this is 'in my opinion'), but a fantasyland that combines all manner of time periods, stories, cultures, and references.
Quote from: TheReturnofDMD on August 02, 2010, 11:20:15 PM
But if you're going to turn Alexander into someone who doesn't look like Alexander (for example his hair and psychotic expression), why have Alexander to begin with? Why not just make him an original character? Why re-invent the wheel? We saw how well that worked out when Roberta tried it.
I think the hair is fine. If it makes you feel better, you can think of it as Alexander's way of being a rebel ofter all the traumatic experiences he's been through. ::)
As far as the "psychotic expression" goes, I don't think it will look like that in the actual game.
Yeah his face on my avatar is just a random oddity that I screen-capped that doesn't even happen any more, it's not like he walks around making that face all the time.
Quote from: wilco64256 on August 03, 2010, 10:22:27 AM
Yeah his face on my avatar is just a random oddity that I screen-capped that doesn't even happen any more, it's not like he walks around making that face all the time.
But he
is the winner for three years running of Daventry's "Most Furrowed Brow" competition! ;D
Quote from: KatieHal on August 03, 2010, 11:05:01 AM
Quote from: wilco64256 on August 03, 2010, 10:22:27 AM
Yeah his face on my avatar is just a random oddity that I screen-capped that doesn't even happen any more, it's not like he walks around making that face all the time.
But he is the winner for three years running of Daventry's "Most Furrowed Brow" competition! ;D
Yeah! And he's been working on his brow-furrowing skills! XD
So after reading this topic, am I the only one left with a burning desire to see Rosella with Liberty Spikes? Seriously, give her the giant spikes and give Edgar the Johnny Rotten look! Anarchy in Daventry!
But yeah, when I saw Alexander's hair it took me a second to get used to it. But then I did, because at the end of the day, it's just hair. Besides, it's not like King's Quest was ever completely true to the medieval genre. Shakespeare and volcano computers with outlet plugs anyone? So let Alex have his spiky hair. He's a king and he can buck fashion if he wants. As long as he doesn't get the Bieber look. Can you just imagine his psychotic look with the Bieber bowl cut?
Quote from: Lambonius on August 03, 2010, 12:31:45 AM
It's ironic that the spikey hair thing was likely done in an attempt to "modernize" the character and turn Alexander into something of a teen heartthrob, when nowadays most of the teen heartthrobs are sporting the (utterly hideous) Justin Bieber helmet head cut. LOL. I wish Alexander had THAT haircut. ;D
Actually, I think Alexander has sort of a Taylor Lautner thing going on, so I wouldn't be so quick to say his look is missing the "modern" mark. Anyway, his new 'do is WAY better than the the frumpish blah look Alexander was sporting in KQ6. He looks younger and more spunky now.
By the way, the Justin Bieber style would make him appear way too weak and girly. The bangs-up styling makes Alexander look more masculine and sporty.
Quote from: sahara on August 04, 2010, 03:45:39 AM
Quote from: Lambonius on August 03, 2010, 12:31:45 AM
It's ironic that the spikey hair thing was likely done in an attempt to "modernize" the character and turn Alexander into something of a teen heartthrob, when nowadays most of the teen heartthrobs are sporting the (utterly hideous) Justin Bieber helmet head cut. LOL. I wish Alexander had THAT haircut. ;D
Actually, I think Alexander has sort of a Taylor Lautner thing going on, so I wouldn't be so quick to say his look is missing the "modern" mark. Anyway, his new 'do is WAY better than the the frumpish blah look Alexander was sporting in KQ6. He looks younger and more spunky now.
By the way, the Justin Bieber style would make him appear way too weak and girly. The bangs-up styling makes Alexander look more masculine and sporty.
Whatever. ;D I was just making light of the silliness of this debate. ;)
Quote from: KatieHal on August 03, 2010, 06:10:26 AMThough we do jokingly call it his Dragonball-Z hair, I think it's fine honestly.
"Cedric! What does the scouter say about his hair level?"
"It's over nine thooooooousand!"
Lol, that was very inevitable. Cedric saying "OVER 9000!" would be quite a sight though.
Quote from: kindofdoon on August 04, 2010, 09:00:16 PMLol, that was very inevitable.
Indeed. I couldn't help it; it was set up too perfectly. :)
When KQ is brought up, "POIsonous snake" is inevitable, and when DBZ is brought up, "OVER 9000!" is inevitable. I wonder if they could be combined...I can't quite think of the right way to do it...A POIsonous power level?
I was just envisioning in my head Cedric saying "nine thousand" and holding out the "o" like he holds out the "o" in "poisonous."
I don't mind it. It actually seems to work on him, and the mullet...not so much. A good in-universe explanation may be an "important haircut," as he had his hair long in Llewdor (long enough to hide his ears), and getting it cropped was a bit of a nod to say "I'm no longer a slave."
Of course, it's also possible that he was practicing magic, misjudged a spell, singed his hair, and had to get the burnt parts chopped out. :suffer:
Quote from: Allronix on August 05, 2010, 06:52:27 AM
Of course, it's also possible that he was practicing magic, misjudged a spell, singed his hair, and had to get the burnt parts chopped out. :suffer:
XD
That would explain the haircut. :P
I still say the spikes are just natural. Maybe because my hair does that, I'm just trying to make him seem more like me. :P
I like his hair. I had a huge crush on him when I was growing up and even now with his new look, I think the crush might be coming back. :P I think people are just surprised to see him looking different, and it is more of a shock factor. Everything about his character works though: hair, voice, clothes, facial expressions. He is a beautifully made character.
Quote from: waltzdancing on August 07, 2010, 09:41:45 PM
Everything about his character works though: hair, voice, clothes, facial expressions. He is a beautifully made character.
:yes: Very happy with the way he's turned out so far.
Funny how a hairstyle sparked a 3-page discussion.
Shouldn't you know by now... three pages isn't very long for this forum!
Well, considering the relative insignificance of the thread in the first place, it's pretty impressive to me.