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I'm trying to bring a friend of mine into the KQ world, and she should be able to get KQ6 and 7 off of eBay.  But the thing is, is that she has XP. Will they run in XP? Or can she run DOS in XP to be able to play them?

I think there is an emulator that allows u to run them ;), im not very sure though :-\, so maybe some1 else can help ;D

An emulator?  ???

Try and run them in Win98 compatiblity mode, I think that's what racx_00 meant. I don't know of any emulator for old Sierra games. ::)

So they will run on XP, but you have to do Win 98 compatibilty mode? Okay, that should answer my question then. Thanks :)

Sometimes not even the Win95/98 mode helps... in that case you need to use an emulator like VDMSound or Dosbox  :-\

Yes thankyou Storm ;D, thats what i meant ;B

BTW is Scumm VM for the Sierra games or only Lucas Arts games ???

Quote from: racx_00 on March 22, 2004, 03:28:30 AMBTW is Scumm VM for the Sierra games or only Lucas Arts games ???

It's just for LucasArts games, and a few other games like Beneath a Steel Sky, Broken Sword 1 & 2, and IIRC Simon the Sorceror. They've got a full compatibility list on their site.

http://www.scummvm.org/

There's some Sierra emulators like Sarien and FreeSCI, but IIRC they currently only support the AGI and early SCI games (like, KQ1-4), not the later SCI ones (KQ5-7).

Peace & Luv, Liz

I know KQ5 won't run on the Win 98 compatability mode.  I'm still trying to figure out DOSBox so I can play it...haven't even tried KQ6, so I bet I'll be even more upset when I try it in a couple of minutes.  DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO GET KQ5 TO RUN ON DOSBOX??  I think I've tried EVERYTHING.  I hate being illiterate (computer wise, that is).  Poo on Windows! *huffs & pouts*

Catherine

Hmm. I've never really used DOSBox myself (computer is too slow :P ), but I've heard some people say they have luck running programs just by dragging the program's executable file or batch file onto the DOSBox executable.

Peace & Luv, Liz

I did the mount stuff, but my problem was trying to put in something along the lines of "kq5" or kqc\kq5"...it wouldn't recognize it...so I have no idea where the game is located in a way for DOS to recognize it!  BTW...kq6 isn't even coming up.  I REALLY do not like XP!

Cat

Quote from: Oldbushie on March 22, 2004, 07:52:14 PMDid you make sure to do these?
mount c c:\
mount d d:\

That's a Linux box! :o

Yes, DOSBox uses some commands that are similar to Linux commands. It still has a ways to go before becoming super easy to use. But at least you can configure it in a setup file so certain things load automatically on startup. ;)

   That is one reason why XP is poor and we must not submit to Microsoft in allowing the NT code to win out.  Copycat I know you agree with me and I respect your opinion on Windows 95 osr2.  Anything is better than XP and ME.  See if you can get your system to run dual-boot with 98SE.  It can be acquired on the Internet through sites such as e-bay or perhaps a friend has a copy that they will let you have because they no longer use it.  Use a third party program like (Partition Magic --- sorry for the error) to make sure the two operating systems do not see each other and if you only have one hard drive then create another active partition for XP.  I can use fdisk through DOS in 98SE to accomplish this but I have no idea how to accomplish this with the XP-radiated product that I may eventually have to accept with much regret through the use of a dual-boot system.  I am not looking forward to this prospect.  Maybe I will wait until Longhorn debuts and hope for the best.   :X

Is there any possible way to install DOS onto Windows XP ???

And if there isnt a proper DOS then how do you format ???

I think you can delete partitions in Win 2000/XP by using the Recovery Console.  :P

Quote from: racx_00 on March 24, 2004, 01:50:51 AM
Is there any possible way to install DOS onto Windows XP ???

And if there isnt a proper DOS then how do you format ???

You could always use a DOS boot disk  ;)
And Windows XP lets you format disks as well ;)

   I know Windows XP does not have DOS.  Gary Terhune, MVP said it only has a command prompt.  I did not know that you could use a disk to boot into DOS with XP.  I will research this.

   Courtesy of philo microsoft98generalnewsgroup:

With Fat32 you can use a dos boot disk

With NTFS you must boot with XP cd and access your drive from the recovery console


In my opinion, a lot of work needs to be done to have any kind of DOS access with XP   :o

XP Sucks :-\

Hey has anyone realised that XP looks like XD but with a tongue instead !!!, is this a hidden message from Microsoft saying "sucked in" ???

Yup. ;D
Windows XP = the sucky version ;)

Can we make XP into a smilie like XD

Quote from: racx_00 on March 26, 2004, 10:34:25 PMCan we make XP into a smilie like XD

If we did that, it should not have to be triggered by typing XP because that would mean we could not talk about (Windows) XP again (not even to bash it) unless we'd type X P. :-X

Oh, I thought I replied in this thread.  I guess the post got screwed up.  Yeah, as copycat said, if we added an XP smiley, it wouldn't be triggered by the letters "XP", because of all the confusion.

In this case, it might not be so bad  ;)

Who wants to talk about crappy XP anyway :suffer: ???

   Redirect:  So will King's Quest work with XP?  ???

Quote from: copycat on March 31, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
Anyway, the only teacher who could haunt me was the one I had for ICT in secundary school, and one I had for ICT in college. (Hmm, twice ICT? ;P )

lol, all my ICT teachers (and I have like 14 or so) haunt me!! ; ( ...so it isn't a coincidence ; ) ...as a matter of fact all my teachers haunt me <sigh> ; )

hmmm... should I go back on topic?? ....difficult decision ; ) ...but since I'm in a good mood....

Quote from: dew7 on March 31, 2004, 08:54:15 PM
  Redirect:  So will King's Quest work with XP?  ???

works fine at my laptop with xp ; )

Quote from: dew7 on March 31, 2004, 08:54:15 PMRedirect:  So will King's Quest work with XP?  ???

I don't even know if KQ works with Linux! :P

Quote from: dew7 on March 31, 2004, 08:54:15 PM
  Redirect:  So will King's Quest work with XP?  ???

King's Quest IX will.  8)

Quote from: Yonkey on April 01, 2004, 03:29:22 PMKing's Quest IX will.  8)

Probably KQ VII will too. 8)

King's Quest and XP had better mix, cos I'd like to play the games on something other than my laptop ;)

   Well, you could always add an extra partition and have it hidden from XP using a third party program.  Then you could install 98SE on this hidden partition and run the full King's Quest suite with ease.  Long live the 9x code that is based on the ancient but mighty MS-DOS.   :D

if they are on seperate partitions then you dont need the third party program ;B

Quote from: copycat on April 08, 2004, 02:08:03 PM
I don't think an OS will borrow files from another OS if it's on another partition. But then again, M$ Me is crap

Hahahhah! <3  Best quote I've heard all day! XD

   Someone can just start a new topic with the funniest quotes of the day.  Even if it is rare to have operating systems borrow files from one another it can happen according to the experts in the windows newsgroup.  That is why it makes sense to have the partitions hidden from one another.

Redirect:  So how many users out there have gotten the King's Quest series to work with the XP monster? LOL    ;D

Quote from: dew7 on April 12, 2004, 06:17:45 PM
Redirect:  So how many users out there have gotten the King's Quest series to work with the XP monster? LOL    ;D

The AGI ones worked fine. As for the others - I'm afraid to try :o

MoE doesn't work on XP, so I think it's safe to say all the other ones don't either (without the use of compatibility mode or DOS emulators, that is).  :)

Thanks, Yonkey.
Fortunately, there's still life left in 98, 98SE, and yuk ME.  Support expires on 30 June 2006 --- support on-line until at least 30 June 2007

I'm gonna keep using Win98se long after it's dead, perhaps I'll even reprogram it myself someday to make it do more advanced stuff.

Quote from: Oldbushie on April 23, 2004, 07:46:21 PMperhaps I'll even reprogram it myself someday to make it do more advanced stuff.

Are you going to reverse-engineer(?sp) Win98? :o

I used WIN95 and that was way passed dead when i finished using it ;D

racx_00, do you use 98SE now?

Quote from: racx_00 on April 25, 2004, 02:56:01 AMI used WIN95 and that was way passed dead when i finished using it ;D

How does an OS pass dead ???

I think he meant that Microsoft doesn't support it anymore but it still works fine.  98, 98SE, and ME(yuk) will be supported until 30 June 2006 till further notice from Microsoft.

Quote from: dew7 on April 25, 2004, 03:47:16 AM
racx_00, do you use 98SE now?

Yeah i use 98SE now ;D

Quote from: copycat on April 25, 2004, 09:34:08 AM

Quote from: racx_00 on April 25, 2004, 02:56:01 AMI used WIN95 and that was way passed dead when i finished using it ;D

How does an OS pass dead ???

I meant that it still worked fine even though Microsoft had stopped supporting it ;)

Quote from: racx_00 on April 26, 2004, 04:54:14 AMI meant that it still worked fine even though Microsoft had stopped supporting it ;)

If in your case, it was dead, the OS running on my older pc is probably decomposed by now. :P

I have a computer with 3.1 on it ;), would that be decomposed or what ???

BTW i really liked Windows 3.1 :D, it was closer to DOS but still pretty good :D

Hahah dude!  You still have a computer with Win 3.1!? !!! Nice!  XD

I don't think I have one 16-bit program on my computer at all. ;P

Now lets play...*help the ignorant*, the game that tests your knowledge and also helps meeeee!

being very slow, with the website down...but erm....  

QuoteBut the thing is, is that she has XP. Will they run in XP? Or can she run DOS in XP to be able to play them?

there is DOS in XP??? huh? I havnt got DOS in XP and I need it to play my older games  :'( so am I missing something...apart from intelligence???

QuoteMoE doesn't work on XP

mine does... :S[/glow]

Hee. Harrison has a computer with Windows 3.1 on it. I use it to play old adventure games sometimes.

Actually, Harrison misses Win3.1... I think he wishes he could realistically have it installed on his current computer!

Peace & Luv, Liz

Quote from: Kimmie on April 28, 2004, 08:55:23 AM
there is DOS in XP??? huh? I havnt got DOS in XP and I need it to play my older games  :'( so am I missing something...apart from intelligence???

XP has a command prompt that works similar to DOS, but it's not DOS itself, which is why most older games don't work.  In order to play previous games, you have to find a DOS-emulator like "dosbox" or something.  Don't ask me where to find it or how to use it though since I don't play older games.  ;D

QuoteDon't ask me where to find it or how to use it though since I don't play older games.  

Lmao, why would u think I would ask you something computer related Neil...dunno where you would get that idea from  ::) *innocent whistling*

Ah well, I suppose I will just hav to miss out on playing my old games  :'( Besides I hav no money as a poor student to get a "dosbox" (whatever that may be).

*sigh*[/glow]

DOSBox is freeware, actually:

http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/

It's basically a program that pretends to be DOS so you can run programs in it without problems. (Or at least, with hopefully fewer problems.) Unfortunately you're on your own for figuring out how it works... my computer is ironically too slow to run DOS/PC game emulators at a speed faster than molasses in January.

Peace & Luv, Liz

Dosbox is much better now, the next release will even be able to run Windows 3.1! :D
It might even run Windows 95, though that's a bit more iffy and if they make the emulator so it is capable of that it may not work as well. Though I'm sure they can put modes in, so you can turn on and off different features. ;)

Maybe when they get the core stuff done they can focus on the extra stuff. :) Once it can run Win98se I'm shifting to Linux as the main OS. ;D

Well I'm sure everyone knows that KQ6 doesn't run on Windows XP. But how exactly do you solve this problem? I have Adandon Loader and VDMSound running, but it still doesn't work. Any suggestions?

Hmm. I have a friend who got the DOS version of KQ6 working fine in XP, but he said he could never get the Windows version to work. If that doesn't bother you, I can flag him and make sure he reads this thread so he can offer suggestions. :) (Well, unless someone else offers some ideas first.)

Peace & Luv, Liz

If it's the DOS version, use DOSbox.

AHA! The solution to my problems (hopefully)! Thank you Jeysie and Louisiana. I'll try installing the DOS version and DOSbox tommorow.

It works fine for me, I hope it works for you

Alright, I'm attempting to install the DOS version. Now the only question is......how do you install it :-[? I tried running the install file from DOSbox, but it doesnt seem to work, it just freezes up when it asks me which game I want to install (I have the KQ Collection).

First run the Install program(install.bat). Then follow the instructions.

You'll need to mount the cdrom drive, as a cdrom. Like this(assuming your drive is called d).

mount d d:\ -t cdrom

If you'll explain your problem a little more, I might be able to help.

I figured out the "mount" part, and I ran install.bat, but the actual install program is what gives me trouble. It says to press "g" for KQ6, but when I press it nothing happens. The only keys that I get any responses for (I can't remember which ones, there's only a couple though) say that the Apple games need to be installed from Windows.

PS: When I run install.bat from windows, not DOSbox, EVERY key gets that one message about the Apple games.

Strange, I'll see if I can find out what's happening, and how to solve it.

I was fooling around with other BAT files, and they don't seem to work either. The keys that pop up the Apple message are N, E, R, and T, if that helps. What's strange is that the Apple message says to press any key to return to the Install screen, and all of them work, but only those 4 keys do anything on the actual installation screen. I can't even exit out to DOS without exiting and reopening DOSbox.

Let me see if I understand this. In XP, with and without dosbox, you have trouble using bat files.

You put your main hardrive as C?

You put your cdrom in as D?

Used the correct mount command?

add -t cdrom at the end, to make it seen as a cdrom.

What version of XP are you using?

Home Edition version 2002

Anyone else have any ideas? Because I'm as confused as harvester is.

I don't  use XP, so I wouldn't know if this problem has something to do with XP(yeah, I read the name of the thread).

use VDMSound or compatibility mode

He tried VDMsound.

Compatibility mode works with DOS games?

I tried compatibility mode with the Windows version, didn't work.

Technically, AFAIK all that the install program does for the DOS version is copy the files to your hard drive and put the necessary paths into the configuration files. So if you feel like tinkering, you could copy the files manually, and edit the config files manually.

Peace & Luv, Liz

With KQ6(collection version), it's not as simple as it sounds.

I know it's not easy, but it is doable, if the normal install just won't work. One of us could provide our config files as a template, perhaps (I also have the Collection).

Peace & Luv, Liz

As far as I'm aware, the Collection version *should* run in XP if you install and run with VDM Sound. I've got it working..

- Spike

FYI: That can be found at http://ntvdm.cjb.net/. Enjoy!  ;D

I've had VDMSound for a while, and this might sound foolish, but how exactly do you run a program with VDMSound? I right click KQ6 but no option to run with VDMSound appears.

You know folks I've got (perhaps great) idea. At more then a few points on this forum discussion on how to get various "King's Quest" games going on modern computers.

Would somebody care to join me in getting together an authoritative technical guide for this, we can make up a web page and post it... someplace I'm sure... we could even use my server... :)

Eric: Nag Spikey... he's claimed several times in several places that he's never had any issues running Sierra games in XP, but nobody's been able to weasel any specific tech instructions out of him on how he does it. ;)

Peace & Luv, Liz

I have the King's Quest Collection and have been able to run King's Quest VI on Windows XP using DOSBox.

I agree that the batch file installers can be difficult to get working, but after reading this batch file, I noticed that all it does after the user selects to install king's quest 6 is run "install6.exe -f" on the second collection CD.

You should be able to get DOS King's Quest VI installed if you just run install6.exe directly.  I usually do the install from Windows XP and then run the game in DOSBox.  DOSBox is compatible with many games, but is not necessarily compatible with all of their installers.

The sound in KQ6 may produce a lot of static in DOSBox if you choose any sound card other than Thunderbird.  DOSBox can emulate Thunderbird, so feel free to choose this option even if you have a different sound card.

Hope this helps!

Welcome Sir Prize, thanks for all the good info!

Please enjoy posting at these forums :D

I still have the original KQ1 for the IBM PCjr and it was in a plastic box with a picture of a knight on the front.  It was on one 5 1/4 inch disk and used the three sound PCjr internal speaker.  :>  I have played the later versions of KQ1 and I did not really notice any big differences until of course Sierra updated KQ1 to a VGA version with support for sound cards.  LN, have you played the new King's Quest I and King's Quest II+ available for free from this website?

http://www.agdinteractive.com/

KQ1+, yes.

KQ2+, no.

Lousiana: Dude, I'll mail you a CD-R of my KQ2+ files if need be, but you have to play it, it rocks! :)

Peace & Luv, Liz

Hey guys,

So, I just recently reinstalled KQ1-KQ7 (MoE is totally not worth it) on my computer, just to remind me of the past. Of course, KQ7 was recent enough to work fine with my computer. I found a program to make music/sound work for KQ1-KQ3. However, I've been unable to find anything to make music/sound work for KQ4-KQ6 (And KQ5 won't even load at all, it just tells me that it was unable to initialize my audio card, and then closes). I'm sure someone out there has been through this before, and would have some advice to lend? "Or am I merely wishing it was so? *sigh*" (Hopefully, I remember that quotation from KQ6 pretty close to accurate ;))

Thanks guys!
Matt

Welcome AKdb8r :) !!

Welcome.

DOSbox, or VDMsound is what most people use.

P.S. You joined just in time for the new smilies. FUN!  :yes:

In regards to the KQ5 issue, you can give this program a try:

Audio driver patcher (http://ftp-os2.nmsu.edu/cgi-bin/h-viewer?sh=1&fname=/pub/os2/games/patches/gosierrav3.zip)

Peace & Luv, Liz

Quote from: Louisiana Night on August 18, 2004, 08:20:08 PM
DOSbox, or VDMsound is what most people use.

VDMsound is what I used to get KQ1-3 working. I'll try DOSbox for KQ4-6 and let ya know if it works. Thanks! :)

-M

Thanks to everyone for the friendly welcome and advice! :)

If you're using the KQ Collection, there are files on the CD about your problem.

P.S. In case you didn't know...

DOSbox doesn't work with Windows versions of the game. It only works with the DOS versions.

[size=8]Welcome to the forum, AKdb8r!! ;D[/size]

Quote from: AKdb8r on August 18, 2004, 09:10:25 PMVDMsound is what I used to get KQ1-3 working. I'll try DOSbox for KQ4-6 and let ya know if it works. Thanks! :)

Funny, the AGI games work fine for me without any emulators :S
What OS are you using?

Uhm, Storm... I think it's a fairly safe guess that he's using XP....

Peace & Luv, Liz

*Looks at thread's title*

Oh, right  ;]

*Smacks head*

(pats Storm)

Peace & Luv, Liz

Okay, another problem...

I've got all the music/sounds working, thanks to your help. :) But, in KQ5, I'm not getting any of the speech. I think it might be that I accidentally deleted the speech file when I copied the games to a new CD-R. But I'm not sure about this. Does anyone know what file is the speech/voice file for KQ5? If you can tell me, I can determine whether it simply isn't there, or if the problem's a bit more complicated... :\

-M

AUDIO001.002 (94,828 kb)

that's it (must be the shortest post ever) :P

Quote from: Allert van der Leij on August 22, 2004, 07:07:08 AMthat's it (must be the shortest post ever) :P

You'll be surprised ;)

Will King's Quest 9 work on Windows XP

Yes.

EDIT: More detailed answer.

Quote from: Yonkey on August 19, 2004, 10:59:43 AM

The engine can create both Mac and Linux products, but right now we're focusing on the Win32 version (Windows 98/SE/ME/2000/XP).  We'll port it to Mac and Linux afterwards.

Isn't that what uncloaked means? Ok, then they must just be releasing a little something, like a movie or something. Man, and i was all excited too. O K, I still want to finish my game so can somebody help me? :help: :bomb:

Are you playing it with DosBox? I'm not sure, because I haven't played the game with XP before, but I'd guess it's a timing issue. Unfortunately, I don't know how to help you...but maybe someone else does.

if using XP and having trouble
did you changed the compability to another windows version? it could help
(changeble in properties of the icon of the game)
choose version 95 or 98 these two versions will surly let the game work

Is it to good to be true??? :o :o NO!!!!!!!! It really works! Just like magic you can get some of your favorite (and mine) KQ games to work!!! (applause)
Ok. Here is a link if you want KQ6 and KQ5 to work! ;D ;D I have tried this and it DOES work. Also this is not my solution. Enjoy!

;D Click here if you want to know how to make KQ6 and KQ5 to work! ;D (http://www.sierragamers.com/bbs/BBSTopicPage.asp/t/3876/p/1)

Thanks dude!! I've been needing some help getting KQ7 to work on my XP...  ;D

I'm definitely gonna try that, I've badly been wanting to play KQV and KQVI lately XD

I can get 7 and 8 working fine on XP, but 5 and 6 won't work for me XD

Not even in dos-box?
That's how I run mine.I use the dos versions.
 

I have been tinkering with my Windows XP computer and I finished playing KQV again yesterday. Right now I'm working on m fanfiction about Morena. I would like to be able to fix my comp so I can play the early games, KQ1-3, becasue the text on them is all scrambled up so I can't read it. I can play KQ1remake, KQ4, KQ5, KQ7, LB1, and LB2. I have no interest in playing MOE again.

Can get my KQ VI to function on my boggo Windows XP, though why it works for me and no-one else is a mystery (probably because I have threatened my computer enough times with being physically torn apart with my bare hands that it has gotten bored of my winging and gets on with it now!)

Quote from: Dirk Delshire on January 09, 2006, 11:59:10 AM
Not even in dos-box?
That's how I run mine.I use the dos versions.

Yeah just won't work :-\

Hi....

I hope this isn't the wrong section in which to write this, but I'm having lots of trouble getting KQ6 to work in Win XP. Every other KQ is working on this computer except for VI.
I tried this website, http://www.tawmis.com/collector/Games/KingsQuest/KQ6&XP.html
but it didn't help me. I downloaded VDM sound and at one time on a different Windows XP computer I got the game to work.
Any Solutions??

It didn't help me either. So what I do now is have my hard drive partitioned into two parts, one with Windows XP and the other with an earlier version of Windows so I can use programs that XP doesn't like.

Tribe do you use 98SE as your earlier Windows version?  I use 98SE and XP PRO. SP2 on two separate hard drives.

I ran KQ6 on my XP machine using DosBox with no problems.

Do you have 98SE on a seperate partition or disk to try and see if KQ 6 will work for you then?

Nah, I'm only running XP :-\

Well I don't have anymore suggestions for you.  Perhaps someone else can help.

If I was to format and run XP with FAT32 I could get it working. I'm sure that's what I did last time.

There is a 45 day free trial period if you want to try Virtual PC from Microsoft and your system meets the requirements. (can support XP Pro. but not XP Home)

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/evaluation/sysreqs.mspx

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtualpc/default.mspx