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Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: The Fat Emu on April 05, 2004, 02:34:35 PM
If I may ask, why are you calling it "chezz", B'rrr?
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 05, 2004, 02:47:13 PM
Chess pieces living in a chess piece shaped castle. Wouldn't that be like us living in homes shaped like people?

i was thinking of that too.... and i look forward to your speculations about it (ie. how the town should look like ; ) ...I haven't seen chezzpersons of every chezzpiece so it still could work ...i mean that some pices are houses instead of ppl. not likely though... but it could be ; )

If I may ask, why are you calling it "chezz", B'rrr?

lol, you may ask.... and i have no idea, ....i guess i don't like the sound of chess ; / ...chezz sounds better and lookz ; ) better too
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: racx_00 on April 06, 2004, 07:25:57 AM
He is right ;B, it looks a lot better ;-D
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: The Fat Emu on April 07, 2004, 05:45:26 AM
Bah, I'm just a stickler for proper spelling.
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: KatieHal on April 07, 2004, 07:06:58 AM
What?? Of course there is!! There is a proper way of spelling things when you're NOT on the internet, why shouldn't there be ON the internet?

There are more typos and accepted slang terms, but that's no excuse for just claiming it's okay to be ignorant of *correct* spelling. After all, you're going to have to know how to speak and write correctly for the rest of your life, why not put it into practice in the place most of us use most often (aka the internet)?
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: FataliOmega on April 07, 2004, 09:39:19 AM
Yeah, ur absolutely right. PPl should haveta spell n use propa gramma when using da net. We agree totally on this 1, Katie. I mean, comon. Spelling is kewl.  ::)
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 07, 2004, 10:13:04 AM
hmmmmm.... i think you missed a few words ; )

 ....I'm totally pro proper spelling, but I just can't spell ; / (even more since i'm not a wizard anymore)
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: KatieHal on April 07, 2004, 11:13:25 AM
haha, thank you Fatali for proving my point ;-)

Generally misspelling things happens! I do it, I know I do. ANd there are always those few words everyone gets wrong at one point or another: definite (definate), congratulations(congradulations), etc.
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: The Fat Emu on April 07, 2004, 03:34:32 PM
It's always been a huge pet peeve of mine when people spell incorrectly on the Internet and claim it doesn't matter.
Title: Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Mary Jane on April 07, 2004, 03:37:25 PM
I really do suck at spelling. People learned to not ask me how to spell stuff at school several years ago.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 07, 2004, 05:45:30 PM
lol, w got 'lot of new threads tday!!
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: FataliOmega on April 07, 2004, 05:47:45 PM
lol... I guess Yonkey has been busy  ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Oldbushie on April 07, 2004, 09:43:32 PM
I'm good at typing with proper grammar and very few acronyms. ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 08, 2004, 03:33:19 AM
lol, ppl, cya, l8r, wtf, lmao, rofl, ttyl, brb, bbl, afk... the list goes on and on, and most of us know what they all stand for, taking it for granted that everyone else does as well.  ;D

hmmm.... i'm a bit new to all those english shorts ; / but i'll catch up ; )

i don't know what lmao, rofl and ttyl stands for though ; (
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 08, 2004, 06:46:28 AM
i don't know what lmao, rofl and ttyl stands for though ; (
lmao = laughing my ass off
rofl = rolling on the floor laughing
ttyl = talk to you later

Oh yeah, some people combine 'em together to get roflmao.  ;D
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 08, 2004, 06:50:27 AM
lol, thnx i'll add them to my internet dictionary ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: KatieHal on April 08, 2004, 07:40:29 AM
Acronyms are a different thing entirely; and yes, since typing faster is really kind of necessary, I don't have much of a problem with those.

But things like just plain not caring about the spelling or grammar I hate, as well as things like "u" "4" etc. My most hated one is some people I know type "wut" instead of "what"....wtf?!? It's one letter of difference to stop yourself from sounding like a total idiot!! ACK!!

Ahem. Yeah, so...yeah.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 08, 2004, 08:37:58 AM
so you prefer 'thanks' above 'thnx'??

*sigh* I always like x's ; /
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: FataliOmega on April 08, 2004, 10:42:42 AM
wutz upp dawg
U r so kewl
U can spel
I cant
 ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 08, 2004, 10:44:10 AM
I've seen so many variations on the word "thanks"!  !!!
There's "thanks", "thankz", "thnx", "thx", "ta", "tq", "ty", etc.  ;D

Heh, I use the "u" one quite a lot, and "r" instead of "are".  Back in the IRC days it used to be pretty funny:

"r u m or f?"
"oic, lol wtf r u?"  

Heh, any normal person looking at that would just see a bunch of random letters. :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 08, 2004, 02:09:43 PM
i'm half normal ; ) ...cuz i don't know what 'oic' means... other then that i can understand it pwetty well (oops, i used a w instead of an r  ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 08, 2004, 02:36:19 PM
The "oic" one's kind of unique.  It's supposed to be "oh i see", like you're reading the letters out loud.  I guess the meaning is similar to "idd".  XD
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 08, 2004, 02:38:24 PM
I only use the most common acronyms, like IIRC or IMO, except for when I'm trying to pretend to be smarter than everyone else by forcing them to ask or search for some obscure expression nobody ever heard of  ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: MangoMercury on April 09, 2004, 04:44:45 AM
I have a bad case of the lol speak.  I mainly use lol, lmao, and lmfao, but that's about it.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: KatieHal on April 09, 2004, 08:41:30 AM
I'll accept thanx or thnx.

Yonk, I don't even KNOW what half of the ones you said were!! ta, tq, ty?? Say what??

Also, what's "idd" stand for?

It's the twisting of words, lack of using puncutation, grammar or proper capitilization that bugs me the most. When a sentence starts to look like something else entirely and you don't even know what - it's time to go back to Writing 101 in grade school pal!

Ones I particularly dislike (no offense, guys, because some of you use them here) are the adding of "eh" to the end of something...ones I can think used here are "meanieh" "happeh" and so forth. That's actually using more letters than the real word takes....I don't get it!

I came across an LJ once where, in her profile, the girl said up front she never uses periods or ends sentences in her journal.  What the hell?? Why wouldn't you, I don't get it? What's the point? So every one of her entries was a long, long, LONG rambling sentence, with no punctuation, no ending of sentences, and half the time no capitilization either. ARGH!  It's not that hard folks, and honestly, proper writing is a very useful and necessary thing in the real world...and like common sense, surprisingly UNcommon.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 09, 2004, 09:06:34 AM
ta = thanks a lot (I think)
tq, ty = thank you

I haven't seen these that often, but when you see them a lot you tend to remember them.  I think everyone knows what "np" stands for, even though the proper response should be "You're welcome".  XD

Here's (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=796;start=20#msg20089) what "idd" means.  It's a non-english acronym that Brrr introduced to us. :P

As for the "eh" and "ah" replacing suffixes in words... it's just for fun!  :D I guess it's to show the certain way of pronoucing the word?  It's a little more obvious when you read them out loud (i.e. "Get in mah belleh!" - Fat b******).  ;D

lol, Say likes to do the long sentence thing a lot in forum posts. <3  But usually she puts a lot of commas so you can tell where the sentences are supposed to end. ;D  If there was a complete lack of all punctuation and capitals then I would seriously not be able to read it.  Maybe I could for a paragraph, but not anything longer than a few sentences.  ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 10:06:20 AM
LOL, nice Fat b****** quote ; )

I like long sentences too (well only in dutch, too hard for me in english), but I always use punctuation, because else i wouldn't be able to read it back myself ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: KatieHal on April 09, 2004, 10:08:47 AM
Long sentences are fine, and Say uses puncutation and all. ;-)  But I mean when they outright don't use it all...that's annoying. To me.

Again, I was an English major and I'm a writer...things like this are what I do!  
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 10:13:21 AM
hahaha... I know what you mean, I get annoyed when someone gives me some 'dirty code' (code that is difficult to read and such)

perhaps not the same, ....but it's close ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 09, 2004, 10:18:29 AM
I understand what you mean.  If I forget a comma someplace, sometimes the sentence takes on a whole new meaning!  !!! It's kind of funny, because if you notice the majority of my posts I tend to edit them, hehe.  I'd read the post over and notice a missing word or punctuation somewhere. ;D

Plus, I do look back at old threads sometimes, and when I notice some of the silly mistakes I made, it kind of annoys me that I missed it. ;P  

I know, I know.  I just have to proofread stuff more often but usually I never have enough time to do that. :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 09, 2004, 03:58:03 PM
It's also true that there is so much common Internet-lingo these days that we don't even realise it.  Like FataliOmega said: lol, ppl, cya, l8r, wtf, lmao, rofl, ttyl, brb, bbl, afk... the list goes on and on, and most of us know what they all stand for, taking it for granted that everyone else does as well.  ;D
What's brb, bbl and afk ???

I usually don't respond to typos, unless they're really funny, unless they're repeated (but that wouldn't make them real typos IMO). However, I have a problem with people who are supposed to have English as their native language and type things wrong (be it spelling or grammar) they should know how to type right. Especially since English is not my native language. And besides, if I'm uncertain about the spelling or grammar of a word/sentence, I either re-write it differently (if it's grammar) or I use the '?sp' to signal the spelling might be wrong (if it's spelling).

My main spelling/grammar issue is run-on sentences. I have a bad tendency to try to pack too many concepts in one sentence, so I have to be careful to go through and break them up.
Yeah, I sometimes notice long sentences in texts of mine too, when proofreading them, so I too have to add punctuation marks. ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 04:07:30 PM
brb = be right back
bbl = be back later
afk = away from keyboard


yay, i'm catching up!! ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 09, 2004, 04:16:14 PM
...I generally don't nitpick. Especially not if I know the person isn't a native English speaker...

I may not be a native speaker, but feel free to correct my grammer/spelling... how will I learn from my mistakes if I don't know I'm making them?  ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 09, 2004, 04:25:34 PM
I don't mind people making grammer/spelling mistakes occasionaly - I don't expect everyone to be as meticulous as I am and proofread their posts.

The thing that does annoy me is when people KNOWINGLY make mistakes and don't bother to correct them. If they wouldn't spend their time making their posts legible, why should I spend my time reading them? :(
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 04:27:44 PM
how do you know that ppl knowingly make mistakes?? that would be hard to figure out, wouldn't it?
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 09, 2004, 04:45:44 PM
No it isn't... it's the people who, when someone comments about their bad spelling/grammer, would say they don't give a s**t about it and that they'll write whichever way they want  ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 04:58:46 PM
oops ; ) ...hahaha, i care about my grammer and spelling, i just do a lousy job at it ; ( ...wish i could do better, just need some more practice.... this board is the only practice i have at the moment.... ; )


before i joined here i haven't written english for a year or so ; \ and even then i was bad at it....
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 09, 2004, 05:04:22 PM
Before I joined this board, I was already at other English boards, so I was constantly writing English. I watch the BBC too, with subtitles, so I'm immersed in the English language at a daily base.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on April 09, 2004, 05:11:31 PM
I may not be a native speaker, but feel free to correct my grammer/spelling... how will I learn from my mistakes if I don't know I'm making them?  ;)

Well, in that case I shall, if I notice any egregious errors. ;) I suppose I should have amended that with "I generally don't nitpick non-native speakers unless the person invites the matter." I have a Dutch fellow I sometimes talk to online who's pretty obsessive about using his English properly, so he usually appreciates nitpicking. ;)

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 09, 2004, 05:17:06 PM
This is the first forum I posted in regularly... but I was pretty good at English to begin with. I have no idea why - English is usually a difficult language for Hebrew speakers, and I was never in an English-speaking environment. Still, there are words I need to check the spelling to before writing down, and if I'm not sure about the grammatical form of a sentence, I rephrase it to something simpler that I know to be correct  :-[
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 09, 2004, 05:19:33 PM
I have a Dutch fellow I sometimes talk to online who's pretty obsessive about using his English properly, so he usually appreciates nitpicking. ;)
Can't be me, because I'l not Dutch, and it can't be B'rrr either, because he's not obsessive about using his English properly. Hmmm, someone who's me and B'rrr combined? ;P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 09, 2004, 05:25:09 PM
I may not be a native speaker, but feel free to correct my grammer/spelling... how will I learn from my mistakes if I don't know I'm making them?  ;)

Well, in that case I shall, if I notice any egregious errors. ;)

Thanks! I'll try not to make any though  ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 09, 2004, 05:42:16 PM
Can't be me, because I'l not Dutch, and it can't be B'rrr either, because he's not obsessive about using his English properly. Hmmm, someone who's me and B'rrr combined? ;P

OK!! ...stop right there!! this is scaring me!!  :o :o ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on April 09, 2004, 06:42:07 PM
Can't be me, because I'l not Dutch, and it can't be B'rrr either, because he's not obsessive about using his English properly. Hmmm, someone who's me and B'rrr combined? ;P

It's nobody on this forum. He's the owner of spacequest.net, actually.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:2 Things
Post by: The Fat Emu on April 10, 2004, 10:18:52 AM
www.iespell.com
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 10, 2004, 03:33:13 PM
Maybe! XD

I actually wasn't even talking about this forum, but it's probably happened here as well. ;P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 10, 2004, 03:43:32 PM
Usually I don't write posts that consists of just the spelling error, I make a little story revolve around that fact, but usually the replies only pick up on the spelling part. :-\
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 11, 2004, 11:33:55 AM
It's pretty annoying, because the original poster is asking for one thing and the response (and possibly future responses) have nothing to do with the first post.  

Right, and that NEVER happens here otherwise  ;P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 11, 2004, 02:46:54 PM
Right, and that NEVER happens here otherwise  ;P
Ofcourse, it gets kinda difficult to keep replying to the original topic for several pages. XB
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 11, 2004, 07:10:24 PM
Ohhh hahah now I get Storm's comment! ;D

Well, most threads are only good for the first page of responses.  Usually the original question's answered in the first 5 posts.  If the topic is particularly interesting, then it will go on for many pages (of course, not all relate 100% to the original topic, but they're somewhat related).  I don't mind if if a thread gradually digresses from the original topic (they're still easy to split & move because of the conversation flow).  

But the instance I was talking about is when someone started a new thread and asked a very specific question, and the guy was misspelled two letters by accident.  The next poster made a joke about it and continued on with that.  A few more people were responding to the joke rather than the original poster.  The poster came back and was like "haha very funny, sorry I spelled it incorrectly, so can anyone help me" and the people just continued with the joke until finally someone 10 posts down answered it and got the thread back on track.  ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 11, 2004, 08:04:52 PM
OK!! :D
Now let's count the other 3145667498 reasons for off-topicing ;B
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Oldbushie on April 23, 2004, 07:33:13 PM
Sudden amnesia and writing about whatever you happen to be doing?

Mmm... garlic butter....
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 23, 2004, 07:44:36 PM
Reading only the last post on a thread before posting?  ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 24, 2004, 03:17:01 PM
and writing about whatever you happen to be doing?
We've already got a thread dedicated to that. :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 24, 2004, 04:25:31 PM
We also have a random conversation thread, but that doesn't keep random conversation out of the other threads, including this one ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 24, 2004, 04:51:53 PM
The whole Off-Topic forum is one random conversation, I had a feeling it would be impossible to contain it all in one 60+ page thread.  ;D
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on April 24, 2004, 06:31:10 PM
You'll never know unless we try  ;)

Besides, that's what deleting messages from the begining of the thread is for  8)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: racx_00 on April 25, 2004, 02:48:44 AM
Im sorry Neil :-\, its all my fault :'(

*begs for forgiveness*
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 25, 2004, 09:05:50 AM
Besides, that's what deleting messages from the begining of the thread is for  8)
Indeed, experienced members have already read those messages and new members won't read those messages either unless they have tons of free time and nothing better to do. :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: racx_00 on April 25, 2004, 02:56:45 PM
Yay its not my fault ;D :suffer:
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 25, 2004, 05:50:14 PM
lol, well i haven't posted in the first 30 pages of that thread at all iirc, so no loss for me, neither for Q.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 25, 2004, 06:10:10 PM
lets hope that day will never come.... ; ) ...o well, culd be nice to get back to slave status again ; ) hahaha

btw neil, when does threads become archive? ..or does those exist as archive because it is from the old forum?
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 25, 2004, 06:13:36 PM
Yeah, those archives are from previous forums.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 25, 2004, 06:18:22 PM
but you could always move a partly thread into the archive and put a link in the active part so that future readers could read the old posts too.

lol, nvm ; )

EDIT: back to topic: ...so anyone around here having difficulties with Dutch spelling and/or grammer??
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Yonkey on April 25, 2004, 06:44:36 PM
but you could always move a partly thread into the archive and put a link in the active part so that future readers could read the old posts too.

Actually, that's not a bad idea.  I've already merged random junk in there though, so I still don't think it's very easy to read the thing from start to finish.  However, it does solve cleaning up the mess from the forums and saves from having anyone's post count decreased.  Nice!  !!!
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 25, 2004, 07:16:43 PM
yay!! i made a good suggestion!! ...i don't know what happend at that post, but i guess i wasn't thinking straight... ; )

serious; you're welcome ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 27, 2004, 02:09:58 PM
If you guys can do 150 posts in a day (racx), and 300 posts in a week (Q), you'd be able to make those up in no time.  ;D
As long as none of my small posting-sprees are affected I don't think it'd affect me much. I evenly spread out my posts, due to time-constraints ofcourse.

EDIT: back to topic: ...so anyone around here having difficulties with Dutch spelling and/or grammer??
I don't, but I recently took a(n online) test in English spelling/grammar and the result wasn't as good as I expected. :-\ And yet, I haven't seen any complaint on this board as to my grammar yet. Does that mean you're all even worse at English spelling/grammar or that I don't use difficult spelling/grammar that's easy to miss? ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on April 28, 2004, 06:05:54 AM
Does that mean you're all even worse at English spelling/grammar or that I don't use difficult spelling/grammar that's easy to miss? ::)

Probably the latter. English has its fair share of arcane rules, stuff that hardly anyone outside of English teachers and linguists even comes across in actual usage, let alone remembers. There's also the inevitable "exceptions to the rule" to throw things off as well.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: racx_00 on April 28, 2004, 06:46:53 AM
If you guys can do 150 posts in a day (racx), and 300 posts in a week (Q), you'd be able to make those up in no time.  ;D
I only got 150 posts in a day once :(, i have only done it once :P

BTW Rob you should also put the "Official Smarty Pants" into your signature ;P :suffer:
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 28, 2004, 07:02:44 AM
lol, and add king of cheeze to it ; ) ...but the forum wouldn't allow it, cuz the link in the sig is taking too much space ; \
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: racx_00 on April 28, 2004, 07:08:09 AM
You will have to remove the link but keep the title ;)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 28, 2004, 07:20:25 AM
yeah... but i like the linking part... ; ) ...o well, have to consider it ; \
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 29, 2004, 02:20:36 PM
There's also the inevitable "exceptions to the rule" to throw things off as well.
Dutch spelling (particularly the new one) even has "exceptions to the exceptions to the rule". ::)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on April 29, 2004, 02:33:47 PM
lol, i trust my feeling with dutch spelling, and luckily i'm not wrong often... I wish it also works with other languages ; )
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 30, 2004, 02:46:16 PM
lol, i trust my feeling with dutch spelling, and luckily i'm not wrong often... I wish it also works with other languages ; )
Since I am unable to learn any language rules, I also have to go with my gut feeling, both in Dutch and English (spelling and grammar). In elementary (when the old spelling rules were still valid) I got 100 % on almost every spelling test. Nowadays (with the new spelling rules, and not having practised spelling for a long time), it's dropped to somewhere in the mid 95 %'s. Ofcourse, if you're going to make me spell unusual or difficult words, I'd most likely make mistakes, but in the practical field, I do quite well.
My gut language feeling doesn't work in French, nor in German, or any other language for that matter, just Dutch (and Flemish) and English. 8)
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on April 30, 2004, 05:36:19 PM
people in society start making new words,
We have that too, new words, but those new words still have to adhere to the spelling standards, people in society can't make new spelling standards in Dutch.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on May 02, 2004, 06:39:09 PM

Yep, our spelling rules are controlled by a body of some kind, and a few years ago, under the guise of making it simpler, they made it worse. :-\

it isn't worse!! ; ) ...lol, it is quite simple..... ugh, what was worse was the preference spelling a few years before

*shivers*

luckily they cancelled that ; )

Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Storm on May 03, 2004, 09:01:43 AM
Does that mean you're all even worse at English spelling/grammar or that I don't use difficult spelling/grammar that's easy to miss? ::)

Probably the latter. English has its fair share of arcane rules, stuff that hardly anyone outside of English teachers and linguists even comes across in actual usage, let alone remembers. There's also the inevitable "exceptions to the rule" to throw things off as well.

When it comes to English grammer, I have trouble remembering the rules, so I just go by what sounds right to me... I passed most of my English tests that way :P

If something sounds wrong I just don't use it - there's usually another way to say the same thing. There are some things that sound wrong to me but are actually correct, like "we will had been"... I had to memorize those for school, but forgot most of them after the test  :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on May 04, 2004, 03:06:53 PM
it isn't worse!! ; ) ...lol, it is quite simple..... ugh, what was worse was the preference spelling a few years before

*shivers*

luckily they cancelled that ; )
IIRC, that was a thing invented by the Dutch, not the Flemish. :-X

When it comes to English grammer, I have trouble remembering the rules, so I just go by what sounds right to me... I passed most of my English tests that way :P
I don't have any trouble remembering the rules, I just don't, simple as that.

There are some things that sound wrong to me but are actually correct, like "we will had been"...
To me that looks like a mix-up if different time-related conjugations (yes, I also don't remember how those things were called in English, I do know them in Dutch though, but I guess that won't help very much :-\).
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on May 04, 2004, 05:31:06 PM
IIRC, that was a thing invented by the Dutch, not the Flemish. :-X

yeah... i hate the Dutch ; ( ...they invented/intoduced the word apartheid too!! ..ugh, lousy inventions, lousy ppl ; (
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on May 05, 2004, 01:20:36 PM
yeah... i hate the Dutch ; ( ...they invented/intoduced the word apartheid too!! ..ugh, lousy inventions, lousy ppl ; (
You hate your fellow inhabitants? Wow. :o
They didn't only invent or introduce the word, but they also put it into practice! :(
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on May 05, 2004, 01:27:09 PM
yeah... i hate myself too ; \ ...well sometimes and not in the full meaning of hate... i never hate ppl, i just hate some things that they do ; (

ughh... yeah we did 'well' in south africa  :'( :'(
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on May 05, 2004, 01:58:44 PM
yeah... i hate myself too ; \ ...well sometimes and not in the full meaning of hate... i never hate ppl, i just hate some things that they do ; (
In general, there's no-one I really hate. I dislike people, but that's because of their actions (or their non-actions). Take Connor for instance, I only disliked him because he went around killing, if he'd gone adventuring I probably would have liked him.
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: B'rrr on May 05, 2004, 02:11:42 PM
that is what i meant, i don't hate my fellow inhabitants... but i hate what they do... lol, I love ppl ; )

...and i never really hate myself, but i hate it when i do something stupid or such ; \
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on May 05, 2004, 03:00:15 PM
I think I'm dumb when I do something stupid, not hate myself or my actions. :P
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on May 05, 2004, 04:08:08 PM
I hate myself quite often, actually. I wish I could just be normal like everyone else, and not have all these screw-ups all the time. :(

I've only come close to hating one person besides myself, though, and that's because the guy was a complete jerk.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Questing Character on May 05, 2004, 04:23:51 PM
It takes a *lot* for me to hate someone.....and when I do they deserve it!

Jeysie, don't hate yourself! Everyone here <3s you!! Why do you hate yourself??  I mean, I can understand hating your screw ups but not you!!
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on May 05, 2004, 04:52:29 PM
It just gets frustrating when I just can't ever get things right... things that nobody else seems to have any problems with.

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Questing Character on May 05, 2004, 05:07:31 PM
Well, look at it this way...
"Nobody's perfect.  I am nobody, therefore I am perfect."
If nobody has problems with it, and you do...then you must better than them!
But you're not a nobody, you just don't do things other people can do.  And why should you?  They can meet the demand, you should do something else!
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Oldbushie on May 05, 2004, 08:35:18 PM
*gives Jeysie a bottle of Klutz-B-Gon and a lifetime prescription for Tender Loving Care*
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Jeysie on May 06, 2004, 06:10:56 AM
Questie: It's a nice thought... but seeing as how the stuff I have problems with is, like, normal stuff required for actually living one's life in a reasonably happy and productive manner, it's not quite applicable. :P

Bushie: Hmm. Klutz-B-Gon is a little ambiguous. Does it remove clutziness, or does it remove the clutz? (Eep! ;) )

Peace & Luv, Liz
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: Oldbushie on May 06, 2004, 06:30:23 AM
It removes the klutziness of course. ;)

*liberally applies it to Jeysie*
Title: Re:Spelling/Grammar (spelinng an' grahmer)
Post by: copycat on May 06, 2004, 02:16:47 PM
It just gets frustrating when I just can't ever get things right... things that nobody else seems to have any problems with.
Must be because you're hanging around the wrong people then. ::)
I am even less than nobody. I have to read a document of 58 pages and make comments on it, whilst I am at home (luckily I was testing VPN so could do that on Sunday). I don't get cc-ed in e-mails containing information I haveto know about, compliments to my boss. I have to attend meetings I've only been informed about (by my boss) 15 minutes before it starts (the one I had to read the 58-page document for). That about sums it up. Does it surprise anyone I don't like my boss? :suffer: