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Started by FataliOmega, March 03, 2004, 10:27:29 AM

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Drunken Chinchilla

I think they should make you use keyboard controls JUST for the mountain part! It was part of the fun trying to get back up to the house in time and continuously falling off heheh.

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Welcome SanSaurus!!I'm glad you liked my Medusa's fortress idea! :)
While the pathfinding thing would work, I suppose, it still doesn't get rid of the fact that the path didn't make sense.  I'm all for having to use magic to get off the mountain.
And, Alex, you're officially off the KQ3+ team!  I don't care if there isn't one, just for that idea I'm firing you! :P



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Drunken Chinchilla

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QuoteAnd, Alex, you're officially off the KQ3+ team!  I don't care if there isn't one, just for that idea I'm firing you!

HAR! People want it so easy nowadays! If you could just of pressed a button to get up the mountain where would all the pressure and tension of getting back to the house on time of come from hmmmmmm? Exactly it would be a pointless having a limit on the amount of time you could spend out if you could get back at the click of a button. So MNNMM! I dont wanna be on the team anyway :P:P:P:P:P:P
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Quote from: Drunken Chinchilla on May 08, 2004, 02:12:43 PM
QuoteAnd, Alex, you're officially off the KQ3+ team!  I don't care if there isn't one, just for that idea I'm firing you!

HAR! People want it so easy nowadays! If you could just of pressed a button to get up the mountain where would all the pressure and tension of getting back to the house on time of come from hmmmmmm? Exactly it would be a pointless having a limit on the amount of time you could spend out if you could get back at the click of a button. So MNNMM! I dont wanna be on the team anyway :P:P:P:P:P:P
You would have to be at the bottom of the cliff and cast the spell b4 you could actually get back up ;D :P
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you have to mix the ingredients together each time ;)
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Storm

OK PEOPLE, enough talk of the mountain path! we have many other issues to cover. There will be NO mountain path, because I said so, and I'm the self-appointed dictator... sorry, director of this project :suffer:

So, next subject. Things & events in KQ3+ should be better connected - there should be an underlying plot like in KQ6. My idea goes something like this - Medusa's fortress isn't her own, it's actually belongs to the oracle, whom she turned into stone. You need to unpetrify the oracle before you can talk to him, and then he either causes a storm or gives you an ingredient for the brew storm spell. That storm forces the pirate ship to dock at the peir. Ok, the last part sounded much better in my head, but you get my drift :P
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No, no, no...the pirates work with Mananan!  They raid ships, share the wealth with Mananan...who in turn has cast protection spells on their ship.  They somehow learn (I'm working on the details here) that Gwydion turned Mananan into a cat and therefore the protection spells are no longer in effect...
So when he shows up on the docks looking for a way out of Llewdor, they kidnap him in hopes of forcing *him* to cast protection spells on the ship.  That's how the pirates tie in!

I LIKE the idea of connecting the Medusa to the Oracle though.  Did she have a specific reason for turning the Oracle to stone though?



KatieHal

Ooo, I like Storm's idea. Hmm...oh! And Medusa works for Mannanan, who had her turn the Oracle to stone so that Gwydion wouldn't find out who he really was.

Hm, dunno bout the pirates though. I mean, what good does Mannanan have for pirates? He can transport anywhere he wants instantaneously, if he can steal babies, he can steal money if he needs it, and the pirates, well...they might want his protection, but I don't know that he'd bother giving it.

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Hmm, true Storm. Oy. See what we plot writers go through folks! ;)

Okay, so perhaps Medusa just didn't like the Oracle of Llewdor because of the usual good guy-bad guy bit, and the fact the Oracle was well-liked and people *wanted* to see her, where as no one like Medusa and no one wanted to see her. So she was jealous, and turned the Oracle to stone. And that took care of any worries Mannanan might've had about the Oracle and I'm sure he was happy to let those two fight it out and he could continue doing his evil wizard bit on top of the mountain.

It'd be interesting to involve the other black cat more, perhaps even as an ally. There has always been the suspicion that the black cat was an old enemy whom Mannanan turned into a cat just like he was turned into one eventually; maybe once Gwydion gets the animal speech-dough in his ears, he could work out some arrangements with the cat to get out of there! And then Gwydion has a friend and traveling companion. :)

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Storm

Quote from: KatieHal on May 13, 2004, 08:31:12 AMOkay, so perhaps Medusa just didn't like the Oracle of Llewdor because of the usual good guy-bad guy bit, and the fact the Oracle was well-liked and people *wanted* to see her, where as no one like Medusa and no one wanted to see her. So she was jealous, and turned the Oracle to stone. And that took care of any worries Mannanan might've had about the Oracle and I'm sure he was happy to let those two fight it out and he could continue doing his evil wizard bit on top of the mountain.

IIRC, the KQ3 oracle was male ;)
Medusa doesn't need a big reason to petrify people... there's really no need for any personal animosity between her and the oracle. She might as well be just a squatter who happened to like the oracle's fortress, and turn the people who come to see the oracle into stone 8)

As for the oracle himself - I suggest we make him more like the Oracle of Delphi, a more neutral guy who speaks in confusing riddles (and rhymes. Rhymes are fun)  ;)


Quote from: KatieHal on May 13, 2004, 08:31:12 AMIt'd be interesting to involve the other black cat more, perhaps even as an ally. There has always been the suspicion that the black cat was an old enemy whom Mannanan turned into a cat just like he was turned into one eventually; maybe once Gwydion gets the animal speech-dough in his ears, he could work out some arrangements with the cat to get out of there! And then Gwydion has a friend and traveling companion. :)
I was just playing KQ3 and thought of the same thing! ;D
They could start out and enemies and become allies... the cat may be evil and just help Gwydion because he wants Manannan defeated as well. As for the identity of the cat - does anyone have any ideas?  ;)
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I like making the Oracle more cryptic.  I didn't like how the *whole* plot was just, poof, given away.

A lot of people have said that the cat in Ooga Booga was the same one from Mananan's House....could we work off of that?  That cat wasn't evil though. :-\  I dunno, I'm about to go to bed so thinking isn't a strong suit....



KatieHal

It was male? Very well, male. Well, it was just a backstory "in case someone asks." Believe me, you need that kind of stuff, because there is always someone who will ask.

Yes, a more cryptic Oracle so it's no so easy to find out would be good. Maybe you don't know right up until the revealing of the birthmark! (which, IMO, has to be shown;) ).

Hmmm....seems a long way for a cat to go on its own. Geographically, who knows how far it might be between Ooga Booga and Llewdor! Nah, I say this is a different cat. That one's personality was far too different to be the same one, I think.

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Spikey

The cat in KQ7 wasn't actually *evil*, was it?

And I believe I supplied some MIDI's to the KQ4 VGA project a while back, nice people.

KQ3 is my number one for a remake. Great idea, but just awful in AGI. I believe AGDI, or whatever they are today, were seriously thinking about KQ3VGA next. But can't pencil anything in these days, I guess.

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KatieHal

No, the KQ7 cat was quite nice!

The KQ3 cat was not nearly as pleasant ; but my theory is once Gwydion could talk to it, the cat and he might find they have much in common, what with the evil wizard running the house. Personally, I always suspected the cat was once human.

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Storm

Quote from: KatieHal on May 14, 2004, 01:02:08 PMPersonally, I always suspected the cat was once human.

We'll have to make it that way, if we intend to have him join forces with Gwydion... what motivation would he have to go against Manannan if he was just a cat? ;)
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