KQ3+ Suggestions

[Storm]

Sure -

KQ1 -
http://www.agdinteractive.com/KQ1-walk.php

KQ2 -
http://www.agdinteractive.com/KQ2-walk.php

[racx_00]

Thanks Storm

BTW thankyou Rob for trying to find them

I kinda got stuck on a few parts

[B'rrr]

hahahaha... actually i did found them, and posted them,... but when i tried the link it wasn't really working... but that was because my work pc was acting weird ; ( ...i only noticed that later, cuz i had more difficulties with that...

....anyway, i thought it wasn't working so i deleted the post ; \, but they were the same links storm posted ; )

[KatieHal]

The path was certainable DOABLE, but yes, was darn annoying. Especially since you had to make more than one trip down, AND back up.

And also, if there was no path at all, that adds some intrigue to the idea of a KQ3+.  You're there thinking, okay, I know I have to get out of here, but there's no way down without magic! Okay, so whatever I need HAS to be in this house and on this mountain. Or heck, maybe even adding some kind cave path *inside* the mountain that you can find to also get down, but it's not as annoying or difficult as that original path.

[Questing Character]

Oooooh, I like that idea!  And maybe even Mananan wouldn't know about the secret passage inside the mountain...after all, he can't see it with his telescope!
But that begs the question...how do you find it?

[Jael]

The path was certainable DOABLE, but yes, was darn annoying. Especially since you had to make more than one trip down, AND back up.

Ack! That path drove me insane. Every path where falling two inches was enough to kill me, I hated. Though I thought the worst part of the game was trying to get down the stairs with Rosella. I died so many times in that sequence . Maybe I'm just inept

[Questing Character]

Rosella always got in my way on those staris and I couldn't move.  BAD ROSELLA!  I'll shove HER down the friggin' stairs!
Jason, you'd think Gwydion would have discovered it sooner if it was in his room....but maybe not if it was in the kitchen?  There's a big ol' fireplace that could have a secret in it....

[Questing Character]

Yeah, I think I figured that out eventually too...but its hard as heck to remember it when I play!  I'm still not entirely sure how I manage it, I just know that if I do soemthing a certain way it puts me in front of the stupid girl instead of the other way around.
If, in a remake, they use the same screens as they did in the KQ1 remake (which they should) of course, that solves the problem....sort of.  Plus, the software should be better so Rosella is NEVER in front of you.

[racx_00]

There is another way of getting Rosella out of the way or atleast passing her , in one of the earlier threads i was told so i will try and find out for you both

EDIT: when you make it outside and Rosella is in the way start walking back towards the tunnel and eventually she will move (but do not re-enter the cave), then try getting past her , if you still cant get past her, get her to move a bit more by walking back a bit futher towards the tunnel exit

[Storm]

I can't think of any getting-past-Rosella techniques... all I remember is lots of saves & restores  

The "hidden cave path in the mountain" idea doesn't appeal to me as much as the "no path at all" idea. There's already the secret lab in the house and a cave-in-the-mountain path somewhere else in the game.

Katie's right about the "no path" adding more intrigue - a dark, forbidding castle (we'll make the house more dark & forbidding, of course - the original one looks like a country house) on the top of a tall mountain, no visible means of escape... much more interesting

[Questing Character]

Jason, that Rosella technique doesn't work while you're still IN the cave which is where she always got me.

I suppose it would be an interesting puzzle, getting off the mountain without any path at all...but then how do the food and things get there? We'd need to explain that somehow!  Also, you do have to go up and down the mountain at least.....uhm....three times, I think.  Are you suggesting we add some more times you can use eagle/fly spell before you run out of essence?

[KatieHal]

To answer QC's question about how food gets up there and all that....

*said like Jack Sparrow saying "Pirate!"*

"Magic!"

It's amazing how much can get shoved under the title of "magic" when you need it to.

The magic map you find could work like the one in KQ6 does. The transport stone could be completed sooner, the eagle/fly spell could be, or a new method and spell altogether!

[Storm]

It's amazing how much can get shoved under the title of "magic" when you need it to.

Yep. Magic is a fantasy writer's best friend, especially when it comes to explaining stuff. I even has a Simpsons quote for the occasion:

At a Xena fan meeting

Frink: ...In episode BF12, you were battling barbarians
           while riding a winged Appaloosa, yet in the
           very next scene, my dear, you're clearly atop
           a winged Arabian.  Please do explain it.

Lawless: Ah, yeah, well, whenever you notice
            something like that, a wizard did it.

Frink: I see, all right, yes, but in episode AG4 --

Lawless: Wizard.

Frink: [under breath] Aw, for glaven out loud.

The question "how the food & things get there" isn't addressed in the original game, much like the questions "who raised Alex" and "who served Manannan while he was growing up"  

[Questing Character]

Using the eagle only once is a good idea, but I wanted to have you use it to fly into the Medusa's fortress thingy. Maybe some kind of levitation spell could be added that levitates you down the mountain?  That would be cool.

Yeah, the whole thing Rosella was pretty badly done.  I think nowadays, untying Rosella would have led to an ending video in which you led her down the stairs and to the castle automatically. That would have been *wonderful*.

[racx_00]

I know realise how annoying the Mountain Path is , i obviously forgot because i hadnt played it in ages

and i agree with you Q the whole part with Rosella would make a better ending movie

[Storm]

Of course we'll have a whole different ending sequence! and no stupid stairs with Rosella following you and no silly throwing-of-the-hat right after the twins return. "Yay, our long-lost son returned, and he saved our beloved daughter! let's toss some hats around!" never made any sense to me

[racx_00]

Ok so we remove the mountain path , we turn the cottage into an evil castle looking thing , a rope is used to get off the mountain and there are no stairs to go down because it automatically starts a movie of the two back at the castle

[Storm]

It could still be a cottage... but an EVIL-looking cottage

And no rope to get off the mountain!! don't try turning Alex into Connor here!

[racx_00]

Good one Storm , that was funny

Anyway he could use magic to get off the mountain

[Questing Character]

Like I said, a levitation spell!!!