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Which operating system is the best?

Started by dew7, March 05, 2004, 03:08:28 AM

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Jeysie

I have a Logitech Optical mouse, with a scroll wheel-button in the middle. I have the button set to "double-click" and the wheel set to "full-screen". :) As much as I like it, I'm tempted to try a trackball one day, to see if it will reduce the amount of wrist discomfort I get while doing long bouts of coding. :P

Peace & Luv, Liz

Yonkey

The trackball was fun, your thumb gets a nice workout isntead of your wrist!  ;P

The only bad part about it is it's hard to control the cursor for precise things (like drawing or doodling).  Other than that it was great. :)

"A wish changes nothing. A decision changes everything."

Louisiana Night

QuoteThe only bad part about it is it's hard to control the cursor for precise things (like drawing or doodling).

Are you talking about trackballs, or just the thumb controlled ones?

Yonkey

"A wish changes nothing. A decision changes everything."

dew7

Neil, I am puzzled at why the media does not make a big deal about the security flaws that the NT code still has.  Why not have some headline like "Windows XP plagued by security flaws; experts suggest people use Microsoft Windows 98 Second Edition or switch to Linux or Apple.
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Louisiana Night

I'm not the one you were talking to, but considering this is a public forum...

I doubt the average person cares, and those that do, probably care more about it working(and compatibility). Most people just use whatever comes with their PC anyways.

P.S. Consider the Lindows problem(person buys Lindows/Linux PC, person buys Windows software, person is confused, because the software doesn't work).

Jeysie

#326
I agree with Louisiana. I overheard one of my co-workers flat out saying "I don't care about finding out how it works, I just use it." Not to mention when another co-worker was having problems, he asked one of the few people in the place who actually knows computer stuff besides me how to fix it. She told him "OK, I'll teach you how to fix the problem." He said "I don't want to know how to fix it, you fix it." Actually, he comes to her with computer problems a *lot*. (Yeah, like she has nothing better to do than fix your computer because you can't be bothered to learn how not to break it... er, (cough) sorry...)

Quite frankly, this sort of attitude baffles me. It's a device that you use 8 hours a day in ways that keeps your business running, and thus keeps you getting a weekly paycheck... while I don't expect everyone to desire to know all the ins and outs of computers, not wanting to know anything at all about them just doesn't make any sense to me. But that's the way many people are.

People b**** and whine and moan about viruses and spam and spyware, sure... but imply to them that they have to take time and effort into learning how to avoid such things, and suddenly the status quo is hunky-dory. Seriously, I have observed this effect many times.

In fact, an example:

The other day another of my co-workers and the lady who knows some computer stuff were talking about spam. The lady commented that he should try out the filter on their new Outlook installation. He said he kept having problems with the filter filtering out good e-mails. I told him that was because he had to take some time to teach the filter initially, by marking all of his e-mail "spam" or "not spam". He basically said "I don't have time for that!". Not understanding, of course, that spending a little extra time up front training the filter will save him time down the road filtering out spam manually. (I guess that's the main problem, at least in the business world... people never take the long view in terms of time and money investment.)

And then there's the numerous "What do you mean the computer can't read my mind?" type of tales I could regale... :P

Peace & Luv, Liz

Louisiana Night

I think Linux is better with viruses. If you really want to keep people out of your computer, make your own OS.  :suffer:

Louisiana Night

#328
Jeysie, you mentioned Windows compatibility in Linux. Here's a good site to go to.

Linux Compatible

They base their results on popular emulators(and it is mostly based on user feedback), so it's not completely accurate.

P.S. Tierra games don't seem to work well in Linux.

dew7

Windows = Closed Source
Linux = Open Source

Which will win in the long run?
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Jeysie

Thanks for the link, Louisiana... I'll look it over. :)

Peace & Luv, Liz

Louisiana Night

#331
I don't think either will win. The majority will stay with closed-source, and the minority with open-source. Even if I'm wrong, I'm sure some people will use one, and some the other. Unless there's another option, that I don't know about.

dew7

I think you meant minority with open source not closed source :>  ;D
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Louisiana Night

#333
Dual booting with Linux and XP=bad

XP removed GRUB from my computer. Now I've reinstalled Linux, and am trying to get it setup. Also, I'm switching back to 98SE(I just can't get used to XP). I still think XP is the best, and worsed, of the Windows line.

P.S. Dew, thanks for pointing that out.

dew7

What do you mean by XP being the best and worst.  Please explain.  :>  (P.S.  You are most welcome)
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Louisiana Night

I like the NT/2000 line, because of NTFS. I liked the 9x line, because it was good for games. I dislike the NT/2000 line, because it made many things harder than they needed to be. I disliked the 9x line, because it used Fat. There are countless other reasons to like/dislike the NT/9x line. XP seems to have most of the advantages, and disadvantages, of both lines. So I consider it the best, and worst, of the Windows OSs.

So I think I'll stay with 98SE, until Microsoft refines the new line. Although I'll be trying their OSs anyways.

dew7

Yeah, if you have looked at the thread "Which Windows is Best" you will see that I also feel that Microsoft's Windows 98 Second Edition is their best operating system even though it is dated. :>  BTW, critical updates for it will continue until 30 June 2006.  I hope to convince Microsoft to continue the 9x line to allow for an alternative to the NT code and provide more competition to Linux.  Finally, I will try Linux someday and the more annoyed I become with Microsoft the more likely I will try Linux.  However, Microsoft was helpful in extending 98, 98SE and ME's lifeline to 30 June 2006 and releasing the Windows Update Security cd for free.  See link below to order your copy.  :>

http://www.microsoft.com/security/protect/cd/order.asp
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Louisiana Night

Thanks, but I won't be getting a copy. As soon as I get Linux working over the internet(I've got a modem that works now), I won't have to worry about Windows security.

It could take a while to get working though, because I'm trying to get 98SE working first(and I'm trying to avoid dual-booting).

dew7

The update cd is completely free -- no shipping and works for 98, 98SE, ME 2000 and XP.  Why not acquire a copy.  It is really easy to sign up for.
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Louisiana Night

I'll consider it.

Thanks for the info.