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Offline mommylovesdaddy

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 02:15:27 AM »
I am soo lost and doubt anyone will be able to help me at this time... but when I go to block red chess 1, it is jumping onto an already red checker piece on the board, so my placing the red tile doesn't make any difference to it, the chess piece still hops on the red tile as if it were part of the checker board and continues to pass to red chess 2... I am so confused :S

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #21 on: February 19, 2011, 05:27:14 AM »
I am soo lost and doubt anyone will be able to help me at this time... but when I go to block red chess 1, it is jumping onto an already red checker piece on the board, so my placing the red tile doesn't make any difference to it, the chess piece still hops on the red tile as if it were part of the checker board and continues to pass to red chess 2... I am so confused :S
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #22 on: February 19, 2011, 10:52:52 AM »
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2011, 10:31:45 AM »
The puzzle is actually not that bad once you figure out the patterns, but figuring them out can take some pretty major effort. It does sound like you're blocking the wrong pawn. Also, remember that
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Sierra at least used to make there games easy for even a child to figure out. There shouldn't have had to be any major effort if the game was done right. Just another example of one of the stupidly hard puzzles in this game.

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2011, 10:47:22 AM »
No major effort required.  Just observation.  Watch where a piece normally goes, block it, then observe again to see if you changed what was happening.
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2011, 11:35:29 AM »
The puzzle is actually not that bad once you figure out the patterns, but figuring them out can take some pretty major effort. It does sound like you're blocking the wrong pawn. Also, remember that
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Sierra at least used to make there games easy for even a child to figure out. There shouldn't have had to be any major effort if the game was done right. Just another example of one of the stupidly hard puzzles in this game.

It's actually not stupidly hard. here's a hint though in though that may be what is stumping you

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2011, 03:35:46 PM »
Are you totally clueless on how to make the tricksters toss the seashell toward Hole in the Wall?  The solution came from CalmLunatic.  Read his reply near the bottom of this webpage.
This game is just to confusing

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #27 on: February 22, 2011, 12:09:54 AM »
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DUHHH :P thank you for that! I was doing the same thing wrong and if you had not put that up, I was going to give up totally. LOL I played with this thing for over an hour before I came, read the solution, still didn't help, came back to see your post. I finally past it thanks to you, and it was about "flipping" time.   :suffer:

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #28 on: March 13, 2011, 12:36:50 AM »
Need a rest. I can play chess and checkers but I'm not seeing it. I know where to block but can't block while it has the shell. So monkey in the middle defines it perfectly for me.

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #29 on: March 13, 2011, 05:54:02 AM »
Between each pass you need to block, there's an intermediate pass to give you time to set up the next one.

Just make sure that the first thing you do after each blocked pass is set up the next block and then you can get them passing again.

Trust me. It works :)

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2011, 10:00:00 PM »
Are you kidding me? This is one of the easiest puzzles if you know to flip the tile over (which I didn't at first). This is certainly NOT a 'way too difficult' puzzle.

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Although if I could change one thing it would be making the puzzle squared away with chess/checkers rules. It does with the checkers...but my first reaction was to put the tile on the square in front of the pawn.

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #31 on: March 15, 2011, 09:08:07 AM »
Are you kidding me? This is one of the easiest puzzles if you know to flip the tile over (which I didn't at first). This is certainly NOT a 'way too difficult' puzzle.

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Although if I could change one thing it would be making the puzzle squared away with chess/checkers rules. It does with the checkers...but my first reaction was to put the tile on the square in front of the pawn.

Yeah I actually toyed around with this puzzle quite a bit before settling on this setup.  We discussed the various types of movements and at one point even considered having a few different kinds of game pieces other than just pawns and checkers and having them all moving following their own correct rules.  In the end it seemed simplest to just go with pawns and checkers and have them move the same way.  Even at that I originally had a somewhat more complex setup that required a good deal more observation to track the throwing patterns of the pieces.
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #32 on: March 17, 2011, 05:30:41 PM »
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So, start by clicking the shell on the three checkers pieces and notice from which square the white one will throw the shell.

Well & truly stuck. The walkthrough on Gameboomers says above. But how can anybody use the shell when the object of the puzzle is to OBTAIN the shell ?  ???
But worse than that! Everybody is talking about the shell being thrown from object to object. But I get nothing like that - the whole screen remains static & inert.
I have put the red-white tile on different squares but nothing whatsoever happens. I can try using the hand-icon or any other icon on all pawns checkers squares whatever. But still nothing happens,
What is wrong? HELP NEEDED to continue!

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Ignore my previous post --- it's working OK now.
I started it from a previous Save which must have got corrupted somehow! :D  ;D

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2011, 05:30:46 PM »
Yes, you are right. The objective is to obtain the shell.  But, you will obtain it with the help of "The hole in the Wall" when the shell gets to it.

So, you must see how the shell is pass from checkers to checkers and/or from pawn to pawn.

That is why it is said to start by clicking "the shell" ( not the checkers or later the  pawn), to see it go around.  But if you still get a static screen, I can't help you with this.

Just follow the WT carefully and you should get there.

Good luck.

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EDIT: just saw your edit.  Great that you are going on with the game. ;D
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 07:08:38 PM »
Many thanx.
I understand now and am on my way  ... I hope  ::)

(Posted on: March 17, 2011, 07:34:42 PM)


This puzzle is refreshingly original as well as entertaining. Too many Adventure puzzles lately are stereotyped and rather boring. This one is interesting and novel IMO! :)
If you arte stuck, the following is an extremely detailed but comprehensive step by step SPOILER-solution.
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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #35 on: March 22, 2011, 07:24:54 AM »
So, I'm one of those gamers that spent some time on the chess puzzle and couldn't figure it out. I had to come here to see the solution, but it didn't help much either, since the hints here are mostly about how you have to block the chess pieces with the tile so they toss the shell to one another and finally to the Hole-in-the-wall.

Then, playing some more, I realized the true puzzle isn't that one. The real puzzle is...

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After you have figured that out, the blocking part is quite easy and straightforward. You just have to watch the pieces movements (they always move to the same square when tossing the shell) and block accordingly, on a trial an error basis.

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Re: Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall
« Reply #36 on: March 22, 2011, 01:01:42 PM »
Yes! That's one of the essential aspects of the puzzle - but not the only one!
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