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Stuck on Chessboard tricksters scene with Hole in the Wall

Started by araigumabks, February 17, 2011, 10:55:38 PM

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mommylovesdaddy

I am soo lost and doubt anyone will be able to help me at this time... but when I go to block red chess 1, it is jumping onto an already red checker piece on the board, so my placing the red tile doesn't make any difference to it, the chess piece still hops on the red tile as if it were part of the checker board and continues to pass to red chess 2... I am so confused :S

calmlunatic

Quote from: mommylovesdaddy on February 19, 2011, 02:15:27 AM
I am soo lost and doubt anyone will be able to help me at this time... but when I go to block red chess 1, it is jumping onto an already red checker piece on the board, so my placing the red tile doesn't make any difference to it, the chess piece still hops on the red tile as if it were part of the checker board and continues to pass to red chess 2... I am so confused :S
[spoiler]open up your inventory and click the hand icon on the tile[/spoiler]
Grateful about a free game currently in development & offering support to the dev team in hopes the final episode will be released. Will keep waiting for updates.

mommylovesdaddy

[spoiler] OMG! that is awesome lol, I kept thinking I must have to paint it white with glue or something somehow lol... I just needed to flip it over? thats too funny, thank you for the help I thought I would never get past that part [/spoiler]

happy123

Quote from: snabbott on February 18, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
The puzzle is actually not that bad once you figure out the patterns, but figuring them out can take some pretty major effort. It does sound like you're blocking the wrong pawn. Also, remember that [spoiler]you need to block it when it doesn't have the shell.[/spoiler]

Sierra at least used to make there games easy for even a child to figure out. There shouldn't have had to be any major effort if the game was done right. Just another example of one of the stupidly hard puzzles in this game.

wilco64256

No major effort required.  Just observation.  Watch where a piece normally goes, block it, then observe again to see if you changed what was happening.
Weldon Hathaway

Arkillian

Quote from: happy123 on February 20, 2011, 10:31:45 AM
Quote from: snabbott on February 18, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
The puzzle is actually not that bad once you figure out the patterns, but figuring them out can take some pretty major effort. It does sound like you're blocking the wrong pawn. Also, remember that [spoiler]you need to block it when it doesn't have the shell.[/spoiler]

Sierra at least used to make there games easy for even a child to figure out. There shouldn't have had to be any major effort if the game was done right. Just another example of one of the stupidly hard puzzles in this game.

It's actually not stupidly hard. here's a hint though in though that may be what is stumping you

[spoiler]You can actually flip the tile over[/spoiler]



mrward

Quote from: araigumabks on February 17, 2011, 10:55:38 PM
Are you totally clueless on how to make the tricksters toss the seashell toward Hole in the Wall?  The solution came from CalmLunatic.  Read his reply near the bottom of this webpage.
This game is just to confusing

ladydragon

Quote from: mommylovesdaddy on February 19, 2011, 10:52:52 AM
[spoiler] OMG! that is awesome lol, I kept thinking I must have to paint it white with glue or something somehow lol... I just needed to flip it over? thats too funny, thank you for the help I thought I would never get past that part [/spoiler]

DUHHH :P thank you for that! I was doing the same thing wrong and if you had not put that up, I was going to give up totally. LOL I played with this thing for over an hour before I came, read the solution, still didn't help, came back to see your post. I finally past it thanks to you, and it was about "flipping" time.   :suffer:

garyoa1

Need a rest. I can play chess and checkers but I'm not seeing it. I know where to block but can't block while it has the shell. So monkey in the middle defines it perfectly for me.

jgodinho

Between each pass you need to block, there's an intermediate pass to give you time to set up the next one.

Just make sure that the first thing you do after each blocked pass is set up the next block and then you can get them passing again.

Trust me. It works :)

akkratte

Are you kidding me? This is one of the easiest puzzles if you know to flip the tile over (which I didn't at first). This is certainly NOT a 'way too difficult' puzzle.

(Posted on: March 13, 2011, 11:24:17 PM)


Although if I could change one thing it would be making the puzzle squared away with chess/checkers rules. It does with the checkers...but my first reaction was to put the tile on the square in front of the pawn.

wilco64256

Quote from: akkratte on March 14, 2011, 10:00:00 PM
Are you kidding me? This is one of the easiest puzzles if you know to flip the tile over (which I didn't at first). This is certainly NOT a 'way too difficult' puzzle.

(Posted on: March 13, 2011, 11:24:17 PM)


Although if I could change one thing it would be making the puzzle squared away with chess/checkers rules. It does with the checkers...but my first reaction was to put the tile on the square in front of the pawn.

Yeah I actually toyed around with this puzzle quite a bit before settling on this setup.  We discussed the various types of movements and at one point even considered having a few different kinds of game pieces other than just pawns and checkers and having them all moving following their own correct rules.  In the end it seemed simplest to just go with pawns and checkers and have them move the same way.  Even at that I originally had a somewhat more complex setup that required a good deal more observation to track the throwing patterns of the pieces.
Weldon Hathaway

DavNomDan

QuoteSo, start by clicking the shell on the three checkers pieces and notice from which square the white one will throw the shell.
Well & truly stuck. The walkthrough on Gameboomers says above. But how can anybody use the shell when the object of the puzzle is to OBTAIN the shell ?  ???
But worse than that! Everybody is talking about the shell being thrown from object to object. But I get nothing like that - the whole screen remains static & inert.
I have put the red-white tile on different squares but nothing whatsoever happens. I can try using the hand-icon or any other icon on all pawns checkers squares whatever. But still nothing happens,
What is wrong? HELP NEEDED to continue!

(Posted on: March 17, 2011, 06:26:35 PM)


Ignore my previous post --- it's working OK now.
I started it from a previous Save which must have got corrupted somehow! :D  ;D

Jepe

Yes, you are right. The objective is to obtain the shell.  But, you will obtain it with the help of "The hole in the Wall" when the shell gets to it.

So, you must see how the shell is pass from checkers to checkers and/or from pawn to pawn.

That is why it is said to start by clicking "the shell" ( not the checkers or later the  pawn), to see it go around.  But if you still get a static screen, I can't help you with this.

Just follow the WT carefully and you should get there.

Good luck.

Jepe/Chief


EDIT: just saw your edit.  Great that you are going on with the game. ;D

DavNomDan

Many thanx.
I understand now and am on my way  ... I hope  ::)

(Posted on: March 17, 2011, 07:34:42 PM)


This puzzle is refreshingly original as well as entertaining. Too many Adventure puzzles lately are stereotyped and rather boring. This one is interesting and novel IMO! :)
If you arte stuck, the following is an extremely detailed but comprehensive step by step SPOILER-solution.
[]   [spoiler] The object of this puzzle is to get the elusive jumping shell to the hole in the wall (and hence subsequently to your inventory!).
    The 8 x 8 checkers/chess-board can be visualized as 8 rows stretching upwards from the bottom and represented by the letters "A" thro' "H", and 8 columns stretching from left to right and represented by the numbers "1" thro' "8".

(1)      From inventory, place the red tile onto square E6.
(2)     Click on all 3 checkers and finish when the shell rests on the only white checker on square D5.
(3)     Click on the shell at square D5 and see it jump to the red pawn at square G1.
(4)      Click on the shell at G1 and see it  jump to the only other red pawn at square D1.
(5)      Pick up the red tile from square E6.
(6)      In inventory, click on the red tile and it flips over to a white one.
(7)      From inventory, place the white tile onto square F2.
(8
      Click on the shell at square D1 and see it jump back to the previous red pawn at square G1.
(9)     Click on the shell at G1 and see it jump to the white pawn at square F3.
(10)      Pick up the white tile from square F2.
(11)      From inventory, place the white tile onto square C3.
(12)      Click on the shell at F3 and see it jump to the white pawn at square B2.
(13)      Click on the shell at B2.
             EUREKA! See the shell jump to the hole in the wall who automatically transfers it to your inventory!  :) :)[/spoiler]            


pabuslem

So, I'm one of those gamers that spent some time on the chess puzzle and couldn't figure it out. I had to come here to see the solution, but it didn't help much either, since the hints here are mostly about how you have to block the chess pieces with the tile so they toss the shell to one another and finally to the Hole-in-the-wall.

Then, playing some more, I realized the true puzzle isn't that one. The real puzzle is...

[spoiler]
... to figure out that the red tile is ALSO a white tile. I kept blocking the chess pieces that jumped over white squares, but I couldn't do that with the pieces that stood over red squares. I wondered where I could find a white tile until I entered in to the inventory, click the eye icon over the red tile and got a description that cleared things up. Then, I used the hand icon on the red tile, and it flipped it into a white tile.
[/spoiler]

After you have figured that out, the blocking part is quite easy and straightforward. You just have to watch the pieces movements (they always move to the same square when tossing the shell) and block accordingly, on a trial an error basis.


DavNomDan

Yes! That's one of the essential aspects of the puzzle - but not the only one!
[spoiler]Why else would yyou have a red-white tile and not simply a single coloured one[/spoiler]?