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Started by Damar, April 17, 2011, 01:12:25 PM

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who liked Enterprise, though I actually enjoyed the whole thing, not just the final season.

I thought the new movie was a decent film, and even a decent Star Trek film, however I agree: [spoiler]I did not appreciate how it screwed up everything that had happened. Since history changed, everything in TOS, TNG, Voyager and DS9 could very well not even have happened. Even some things in Enterprise could have been affected. If it had been a part of a completely different continuity with no ties to the original canon, then I wouldn't have much of a problem with it. But trying to fit it in with everything else was a mistake.[/spoiler]
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

Damar

Please don't kill me but Napoleon Dynamite was horribly overrated and completely unfunny.  I hated it.  Hated it.

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Feel free to kill me, but I liked Napoleon Dynamite. Heck, I've fallen in love with anything by Jared and Jerusha Hess, even when Computerman is there to try to screw it up.

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Quote from: Damar on August 06, 2011, 10:28:06 PM
Please don't kill me but Napoleon Dynamite was horribly overrated and completely unfunny.  I hated it.  Hated it.
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haha but seriously, it is my favorite movie ever, you do not want to know how many times i have seen it, and related materials, interviews, commentaries and how much the movie affects my day to day life.  but yeah, a lot of my friends don't like it, i guess it is just my kind of humor, like EXACTLY my kind of  humor.
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Quote from: Damar on August 06, 2011, 10:28:06 PM
Please don't kill me but Napoleon Dynamite was horribly overrated and completely unfunny.  I hated it.  Hated it.
Napolean Dynamite is one of those hit-or-miss movies; you either love it or hate it.  I was a senior in high school when it came out so of course it was all the rage around the halls of the high school.  Most of the teachers, however, couldn't understand what we students thought was so funny.  As my 74 year-old social studies teacher said, "I just didn't get it!"

Me, I thought it was hysterical.  I had no preconcieved notions about it--nobody had seen it yet, so I had no idea what it was about, and I walked out of the theatre laughing to tears. :)
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Agreed; it's very much a love it or hate it. I thought it was funny as well, and it's even better when you watch it with friends.
So what if I am, huh? Anyways, I work better when I'm drunk. It makes me fearless! If I see a bad guy, I'll just point my sword at him and saaaaaaaaaay, "Hey! Bad guy! You're not s'posed to be here! Go home or I'll stick you with my sword 'til you go, 'Ouch! I'm dead!' Ah-ha-ha!" Ha-ha. *hic* See? Ain't no one gonna be messin' wit' ol', Benny!

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Quote from: Enchantermon on August 08, 2011, 05:44:14 PM
...it's even better when you watch it with friends.
This is sooooo true. I saw it with my three best friends, and from the first moment where it has Napoleon standing in the yard waiting for the bus, we lost it.
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Even if I see Napoleon Dynamite with friends it won't stop the fact that the movie is like an icepick through my soul.  An unfunny, soul-piercing icepick.  The only good thing about watching it with friends is that they can stop me from trying to pierce my eardrums the moment Heder creepy, breathy voice starts.  Then again, true friends would let me end my pain...

Anyways...next up.  Please don't kill me but I think that Rent is one of the most overrated, pretentious, unlistenable things ever put on stage.  Or film.  Or on paper in general.  There was not a single thing I enjoyed about that play, it hasn't aged well, and even in the context of the 90's it is unforgivably pretentious and obnoxious.

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Quote from: Damar on July 07, 2011, 03:29:24 PM
Speaking of Disney: I really didn't like the Lion King.  Everyone talks about how awesome it was, but I found it derivative and obnoxious.  Personally, I think the last truly great film Disney did was Beauty and the Beast.  Everything afterward just smacks of Disney trying to be cool for the kids.  And as any kid can tell you, nothing is cooler than an adult trying to act like they're down with the...the...coolness and badness and whatever it is the kids are saying nowadays...

You don't like the Lion King? :shock: I've never met anyone who hasn't liked it. What don't you like about it? To me it's one of the 90s classics. Disney stopped being good after Mulan in 1998.
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How to explain my thoughts on Lion King.  First off, it's derivative of Hamlet and an outright steal of Kimba the White Lion.  Some of the similarities are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4GR0DconsU&feature=related

Honestly though, that didn't bother me as much.  I have a hard time putting what I don't like about Lion King into words, but here's the best I can do.  It's always felt like pandering.  I've never been a fan of inserting colloquial speech and base jokes into atmospheric movies.  You have these high concepts of a king and a usurper and a child growing to take responsibility, but it's undercut by pandering jokes (cactus butt, a warthog banished for gas, eating bugs.)  All of these were played for toilet humor laughs from the kids, which I find cheap.  You can always make a kid laugh at toilet humor.  That doesn't mean it's funny.  And it's not that I'm offended or a prude.  I feel that the humor is pointless and clashes with the feel of the film.  And yes, Disney has always had comic relief, but it hasn't always been so current and "wink, wink."  Aladdin really seemed to start that.  And Aladdin was successful because it all came from a character that was by definition anachronistic and not of the world that the  main characters were.  The Lion King didn't have that out.

Though really, I'd argue that even Aladdin used the anachronistic humor as a crutch at times and seemed to be less of a timeless classic because of it.  To me, the great Disney movies have embraced what they are fully and don't try to add a wink to the audience just to let us know that we're watching a movie.  Fully immersing in the world of the film (for both the filmmaker and the audience) is what makes a Disney film a timeless classic to me.  When you break that to get some laughs it breaks the flow of the film and seems like they don't think they can hold on to the kids unless they have toilet humor for the kids and out of character meta-asides for the adults.  I find it mildly insulting, actually.

Plus, on a completely different note, Simba was just a tool.  And man, was he a disobedient little kid!  Disobeying left and right, disrespecting that poor little toucan, and putting his friends in danger.  Old school Disney would have turned him into a donkey, had a whale swallow him, then killed him for that level of shenanigans!  Though really, that's not a huge deal either.  It's the loss of the timeless feel and the need to pander to children and adults with out of character jokes that are completely unnecessary.  That's why I feel like the last great film was Beauty and the Beast.  It seems like pretty much the last film where they let the story stand on its own instead of trying to cater to everybody with stupid jokes.

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RISE THREAD!  For there are more beloved things that I hate!

So reading another topic that mentioned My Little Ponies brought this to mind.  Please don't kill me, but My Little Ponies: Friendship is Magic is one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen.  Why is this stupid cartoon such a cult hit?  Like, I can see why kids might enjoy it.  But full grown adults?  It's so obvious, predictable, and...well...childish.  If it were just a kid's cartoon, no problem.  But grownups swear by this cartoon!  Is it just going over my head?  Do I just not get it?  Seriously, what is this crap?

Seriously, don't kill me.  I don't want my tombstone to read that I was mauled to death by a Bronie.

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Really?  I thought the whole Bronie thing was a joke.
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I get Damar's My Little Pony issue. And I'll add to it this: I pity these kids today. If it's not Disney's Stitch licking boogers from his nose, it's Spongebob showing his disgusting, hairy butt for no reason, or any of Disney's current "all parents are morons to be ignored" attitude strewn throughout each and every show - cartoon or live action. The days of DuckTales, Wuzzles, Kissyfur, the Get Along Gang, Snorks, and Gummibears showing adults as wise and worthy of attention are gone. If not for Jakers!, the whole world would be without parent-supporting shows, from what I'm seeing. That also applies to sitcoms. If Everybody Loves Raymond doesn't scream, "All adults are complete idiots!!", I don't know what does.

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Hmmm, see, I'm a toddler of the 80's, so My Little Pony holds a sweet, nostalgic meaning for me.  Care Bears too.  I still have my Pony toys, I collect the odd vintage MLP memoribilia, etc.  Would I watch the stupid new version of the cartoon?  Oh hell no.  Do I watch the old ones just for the fun of it?  Of course! :yes:

Also.......and this is a big one, so please don't bludgeon me to death while I (finally) sleep tonoght.......but I haven't even downloaded Episode 4 yet. :shock:  I know, I know!  I missed the release party and I've been a flaky poster lately, but...gah.  Circumstances in my life have prohibited me from doing it yet!  I honestly haven't had the spare time to even download it yet, much less devote enough time to start playing such an epic game.  I'll be there soon, Questers!  Just give my life a few weeks to settle down!
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No problem. It's not going anywhere. ;)

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I can't download the episode yet either. I have other things i need to be focusing on (like graduating college :P) And there's the fact that i am without my own computer right now. Yeah, kind of can't work around that right now. Don't worry Episode 4 I'll play you someday!
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From what I've heard of it (mostly from younger sisters of friends), My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is great for kids. :) It reminds me of the cartoons I would watch when I was younger, where each episode ends with a moral and a sweet, friendly message of support. :) I haven't seen it myself, but I can't imagine the following it has from adults is anything more than glorified nostalgia.
 
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Quote from: snabbott on November 21, 2011, 11:00:16 AM
No problem. [Episode 4] is not going anywhere. ;)
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Quote from: Deloria on November 21, 2011, 05:30:53 PM
From what I've heard of it (mostly from younger sisters of friends), My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic is great for kids. :) It reminds me of the cartoons I would watch when I was younger, where each episode ends with a moral and a sweet, friendly message of support. :) I haven't seen it myself, but I can't imagine the following it has from adults is anything more than glorified nostalgia.
You're probably right on, Deloria.  Adults probably look at it and think, "Awww, My Little Pony.  Remember the 80's?" and try it out.  Or they have young children and say, "Awww, My Little Pony.  Remember the 80's?  No?  Let's see if it's the same!"  So begins the cult following! :yes:

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Please don't kill me, but I absolutely HATE Adele's music. Ugh. I don't understand why she's popular! The sound of her voice reminds me of a yowling cat in heat. :P
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Please, don't kill me, but... I despise the Zutara pairing in the Avatar: The Last Airbender fandom. I just don't see the point!

Speaking of that, I also HATE the movie with a passion!

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Well, the MOVIE is easy to hate. In fact I like you even more for hating it! :)

Fair enough. I don't despise it and I do get where it comes from, but I ain't gonna hate anyone for not being a fan of it.

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Yeah, I went into the theater knowing that movie was going to be bad as soon as I heard about it from a friend of mine ("Iroh looks young!"= red flag! RED FLAG!). I will say though, I liked the music and locations in the movie. But, of course, just because they got the Northern Water Tribe city, and had lovely music, does NOT a good movie make!

I like pretty much all Disney movies, old AND new. And I've loved every Pixar movie released as of yet, yes, even Cars 2.

Also, another pairing I don't get is: Rhen and Lars from the Aveyond series, even though the canon ending has Rhen end up with Dameon. I admit, I used to not like Stella and Edward being together, but I can accept it now, after finding out that it was canon all along. I realize it actually makes sense, because one of the posters on their forum said that their relationship has a lot more development than, say, Edward and Mel, and now I can see why! And, hey, atleast, Mel ended up with somebody in the epilogue: Lars' descendant. Maybe it's to quell the fangirls who wanted RhenxLars?