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Would Phoenix do Quest for Glory 6?

Started by robbo007, May 31, 2011, 03:43:28 PM

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glottal

Hmmm ... is Quest for Infamy sufficiently divorced from Quest for Glory to be commercially released without a license from whoever has the QfG rights?  I have no idea of IA would be interested in going down that route, but I wonder if it's possible in theory.

Also, I think it would be cool to have a fan-game about Simba as a teenager/adult, given his ties to East Fricana and Shapeir (I don't think it would be good for an official sequel, since I think having a strongly defined player character is too much of a break from the QfG tradition).

Baggins

#21
It was to take place in Spielburg, some twenty or so years after QFG series. So no it reuses too many assets (from QFG 1 VGA).
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

MusicallyInspired

Having it take place in Spielburg was one of the early ideas. It had since evolved beyond that before it was indefinitely shelved.

Blackthorne

Yeah, originally it took place in Spielburg 20 years later - but later on down the line, we removed that and created our own valley and town.


Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

Baggins

Wow, you seriously never did update your website to match the finalized aspects of the game eh?

I remember checking one of the last versions of the Quest for Infamy page on the IA website, before the game page was taken down (just before "Project X/Kingdom of Sorrow" was announced IIRC), and it still had images of both Spielburg, and mentioned that twenty year thing. I think that version of the website still shows up on Wayback machine.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Blackthorne

Quote from: Baggins on July 05, 2011, 03:37:40 PM
Wow, you seriously never did update your website to match the finalized aspects of the game eh?

I remember checking one of the last versions of the Quest for Infamy page on the IA website, before the game page was taken down (just before "Project X/Kingdom of Sorrow" was announced IIRC), and it still had images of both Spielburg, and mentioned that twenty year thing. I think that version of the website still shows up on Wayback machine.

Yeah, we never changed it on the webpage, because we didn't want to announce something and then not do it.  We had changed it in the game design document, but we'd never changed it in any of the demo builds we made.  The game, in playable form, always had the Spielburg stuff in it.  The "non-Spielburg" version only ever existed on paper.  We wouldn't have changed the website until we had concrete work done - and by that time, we'd decided to leave it be.  Why announce something you're not going to deliver on? We'd already DONE that by announcing QFI in the first place, and learned our lesson from it.  To note, though, we were just a green bunch of dudes starting out.  You learn things as you go in the amateur game development business.


Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

KatieHal

Quote from: Blackthorne on July 05, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
You learn things as you go in the amateur game development business.

Amen to that!

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

MusicallyInspired


Baggins

#28
I do, I found it interesting! There are alot of misconceptions of what that game was going to be!

Someone needs to go in and edit the Quest for Infamy page in the QFG Omnipedia, since much of the information is apparently outdated!  :)

http://questforglory.wikia.com/wiki/Quest_for_Infamy:_So_You_Want_to_be_a_Villain%3F
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Blackthorne

I don't even know why there's an omnipedia page for it.  The game was never publicly released, and really never was more than an idea we had - something we discussed and worked on a lot internally, but the public never got to see it.  I mean, should anyone who whispers the mention of a QFG fan game get an "omnipedia" entry?  Because basically, that's all it was. 

Granted, the game and the work we did for it is very close to my heart, and we all had fun developing it - but we never progressed it far enough to consider it an unfinished and abandoned work.  It really never got much beyond the conception stages.

There's really not a whole not more information on it - well, any that we'd care to share. 

Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

Baggins

#30
Well there is playable demo for it, that's still accessible! That's a bit beyond the standard, fan game announcement! Some people are interested in playing these demos.

Actually there are 'fan websites' that devote space to your game idea,  screen shots, and demo!

http://webspace.webring.com/people/ed/d_blakeley/Games/QFGSeries/QFI/QFI.html

If you have been to the Space Quest Omnipedia, people have gone out of their way to pretty much make pages for every fan game in development, LOL, before I was an admin there (I adopted myself into admin there a while after it was moved to Wikia).

The same goes for King's Quest Omnipedia, with the pages for unfinished KQ games in development/cancelled, including KQ4 AGI versions, and KQ2 SCI. That may or may not ever be finished! Who knows what the future holds.

In general I agree with your assessement that it seems a bit silly, to make a page for a fan game, unless it is completed (or in my opinion at least has a playable demo to download, ala KQ2 SCI for example). But if I really went with my personal opinions, I'd delete every fan page, except for those that have a complete game! I'd probably merge all the 'unfinished games/games in development' to a single page, with links to archives, demos, etc, for those interested in knowing more! Then wait for specific pages, once the game is released.

But eh, the original policy was put into place before I joined, and I keep it there to be fair to different types of fans (that apparently thought that policy was a good idea in the first place). Apparently there are quite a few people that are interested in fan scene development, even for those games that are never finished.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

Blackthorne

Yeah, I suppose as a curiosity it's interesting.  I just feel it's mostly a let down to fans, though. 

I'll say this, had we the means and ways to properly make Quest For Infamy the way we'd planned it, it would have been a pretty excellent game.


Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

Baggins

Well, I hope someday, after you complete your current stuff, and have free time; you will find a way to go back to the idea! If its completely stripped of any QFG content, it could easily have financial merit, like Mage's game by AGDI/Himalaya.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg