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Skyrim group therapy session

Started by wilco64256, November 13, 2011, 11:41:15 PM

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crayauchtin

Did anyone see the lettuce picture Felicia Day posted on her Google+ yesterday?

https://plus.google.com/110286587261352351537/posts/UHuWZHnjeNw

I'm jealous because I don't understand. :'(
"If your translation is correct, that was 'May a sleepy hippopotamus lie down on your house keys,' but you're not sure. Unfortunately, your fluency in griffin-speak is too low."

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wilco64256

That... is amazing.  I can't even fathom the work she must have put into gathering that much lettuce.  I admit I never pick up small food like that, but now I'm sorely tempted to start and maybe try for the same effect using like a thousand apples or something.
Weldon Hathaway

Lambonius

Quote from: wilco64256 on November 22, 2011, 08:25:20 PM
That... is amazing.  I can't even fathom the work she must have put into gathering that much lettuce.  I admit I never pick up small food like that, but now I'm sorely tempted to start and maybe try for the same effect using like a thousand apples or something.

I don't have Skyrim yet, but I totally get that joke.  Awesome.

(Posted on: November 23, 2011, 12:39:13 AM)


I broke down and bought the game today.  I don't care if I have to play it in 5 minute increments for the next 2 years!!

Blackthorne

#23
Nice!  I'm debating whether or not to buy it for the PC or just get an XBox and get it.  Haven't played an Xbox since I moved (my brother lived in the old downstairs apartment; he had the Xbox).   I'm leaning towards getting an XBox after the holidays so I can play Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption....

BTW, regarding Red Dead Redemption, I found the best video featuring it on YouTube.

Presenting the Donkey-Lady!!!


Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

Lambonius

Nice.  The Xbox version is great, but if you have the PC to run it at full settings, I hear the textural detail and load times are noticeably better.  Plus you have access to mods later on, if you're into that sort of thing.  Still, Playing it on Xbox is easy and convenient, and the interface works really well with the controller.

I've actually had a bit of time to play this over the last few days, and it's definitely very impressive, though VERY familiar, especially if you played Oblivion to death like I did.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does still have little quirks like floaty movement and inexpressive facial animations that always irked me about its predecessor.  Noticed a few bugs so far--but I read there's supposed to be another patch coming out in short order now that the holiday is over.

MusicallyInspired

The only things I HATE HATE HATE about it is that they retarded the GUI to some bland console interface. It's actually cumbersome. You can't organize anything by value, weight, armour/damage rating, etc. It's just alphabetical. That's all. Scrolling ALL THE WAY DOWN to find the item you want is extremely annoying. Also the act of moving between buyer and seller items is also strangely badly designed.

Then there's the useless topography map. No roads. Just snow. That's it. And icons. It's completely useless. You don't even need to look at it in the entire game. Just folow the compass. I would have preferred the original style paper map which is actually easy to read. That's why it's called a map not a bird's eye view (or dragon's eye view, in this case).

There's also the fact that numbers 1-8 are UNBINDABLE. They're off limits because of the stupid favourite system (which is also bugged, randomly an item you bind to a number will be unbound for some stupid reason). Even on the NumPad. The NumPad is unbindable. I use the NumPad for everything. Now I'm forced to switch to the dreaded WASD. I hate WASD. Now I can understand getting upset with me for wanting the numpad even though I'm right-handed, but what about left-handed players? And it doesn't matter if NumLock is on or not, numbers 1-8 on the numpad are just simply off limits.

It's clear that this was designed moreso with the console in mind, sadly. The Elder Scrolls made its legacy on the PC and it's just sad to see it left in the dirt like this. Not even the mouse is useful in most situations. You have to use your directional keys to navigate menus because mouse clicks and hovers don't always register and never work right. I'm looking forward to mods taht will solve these issues. There's already a map MOD but it's a little too much. You can zoom in right to the ground and view areas you've never been to yet, as I understand it. I'm moreso definitely looking forward to a mod to PC-ify the GUI again, although sources say that it's made with Flash....strangely.

Game is great, though. I just hate all the console-ifying that's happening lately. Now everything is in big honking fonts and giant icons made for people who are sitting back on their couches curled up with a controller and not people with keyboards and mice sitting a foot away from their computer screen.

Oh yeah, you can't even see your own character anymore when you access the GUI. That was a staple of TES since Arena! So desigining your character's facial features at the beginning of the game is absolutely useless. Moreso than usual. Because you will never ever see it again.

Bludshot

I agree the UI is obnoxious, awkward, and clunky.  But I can't honestly say it takes me out of the game too much.  As far as "consolifying" goes, I hardly think Bethesda is much of an offender.  Skyrim looks better and loads faster on my modest PC than what I've seen on the xbox (maybe the PS3 is different?), and I think it says a lot that Bethesda makes an effort to release modding toolkits.

Then again I always find myself arguing against my fellow PC gamers on this subject so maybe I only see what I want to see. :P
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"Alack! The heads do not die!"

Lambonius

You guys are nuts.  The interface is WAY better--so many fewer button presses to access everything than Oblivion, which was far worse, since you had multiple pages for everything, and then pages within pages for specifics.  It was terrible.  Maybe some of the hotspots are buggy on PC, but on Xbox, it is an absolute breath of fresh air.  I'd never want to go back.

For the record, I also love the map.  ;)

Sslaxx

Quote from: Lambonius on November 25, 2011, 11:49:53 AM
Nice.  The Xbox version is great, but if you have the PC to run it at full settings, I hear the textural detail and load times are noticeably better.  Plus you have access to mods later on, if you're into that sort of thing.  Still, Playing it on Xbox is easy and convenient, and the interface works really well with the controller.

I've actually had a bit of time to play this over the last few days, and it's definitely very impressive, though VERY familiar, especially if you played Oblivion to death like I did.  That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does still have little quirks like floaty movement and inexpressive facial animations that always irked me about its predecessor.  Noticed a few bugs so far--but I read there's supposed to be another patch coming out in short order now that the holiday is over.
I don't have a top-of-the-range PC, but it does have a decent graphics card - a GTX 550Ti. It allows me to run the game at 1680x1050 at high detail at about 20-30fps. I suspect I may get another 5-10fps when I upgrade the CPU/motherboard/RAM next year. It's certainly more than good enough as it is, though.

Patch 1.2 is due sometime next week, it seems. As to what it'll fix, hopefully enough of the critical bugs to make the game play better - though, so far, I've been lucky enough not to have been bitten by any of them.
Stuart "Sslaxx" Moore.

Blackthorne

Bah!  Skyrim!  This is the best Adventure game ever!  We had dots and ducks for dragons and we liked it!

ADVENTURE ! Click Here

Bt
"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

MusicallyInspired

Quote from: Lambonius on November 26, 2011, 01:22:39 PM
You guys are nuts.  The interface is WAY better--so many fewer button presses to access everything than Oblivion, which was far worse, since you had multiple pages for everything, and then pages within pages for specifics.  It was terrible.

That's what I WANT. I was even disappointed by Oblivon's dumbed down interface in comparison to Morrowind's. But it's a hundred times better than this horrible Skyrim interface. I can live with it but like I said, first chance someone mod's it I'll be all over it.

Also, another disappointing factor is the fact that I can't add my own music to the game anymore. Morrowind and Oblivion allowed you to do that. The music was merely in a folder in MP3 format separated by sub-folders of different types of cues, battle, exploration, town, and dungeon. Now it's all hidden away in the game files and unmoddable. I loved exploring the world to my own music.

snabbott

Quote from: Blackthorne on November 26, 2011, 02:29:14 PM
Bah!  Skyrim!  This is the best Adventure game ever!  We had dots and ducks for dragons and we liked it!

ADVENTURE ! Click Here

Bt

I used to spend hours playing that back in the day! :P

Steve Abbott | Beta Tester | The Silver Lining

Lambonius

Quote from: MusicallyInspired on November 26, 2011, 02:46:05 PM

That's what I WANT.

Why??  What possible advantage does the old multi-page interface have?  You are sounding dangerously close to one of those pedantic RPG nerds that hates any kind of change just for the sake of hating change.  (Note: I realize the irony of this given my similar complaints about adventure games--but I'd argue that those are two very different things, since with the dumbed down adventure game interface, the core gameplay itself is actually changed, where here we are talking about the menu screens.)

I'll grant you that I also miss the ability to view my character from the menu, but with the ability to pan the camera all the way around your character in 3rd person view at any time, I can understand why they took it out, since doing that in the menu is basically redundant.

MusicallyInspired

I just like to be able to organize however I wish. Everything is all jumbled up in a cumbersome mess now. It's all in perception I guess.

Blackthorne

"You've got to keep one eye looking over your shoulder
you know it's going to get harder and harder as you
get older - but in the end you'll pack up, fly down south, hide your head in the sand.  Just another sad old man, all alone and dying of cancer." - Dogs, Pink Floyd.

Quest For Glory Fan

#35
Quote from: Blackthorne on November 24, 2011, 07:10:40 PM
Nice!  I'm debating whether or not to buy it for the PC or just get an XBox and get it.  Haven't played an Xbox since I moved (my brother lived in the old downstairs apartment; he had the Xbox).   I'm leaning towards getting an XBox after the holidays so I can play Skyrim and Red Dead Redemption....

BTW, regarding Red Dead Redemption, I found the best video featuring it on YouTube.

Presenting the Donkey-Lady!!!


Bt
If you can play Oblivion you can play Skyrim at almost the same settings.

Lambonius

Anyone still playing this piece of s***??


Just kidding.  I adore this game.  I masturbate to it nightly.

Sslaxx

Quote from: Lambonius on December 01, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
Anyone still playing this piece of s***??
Been bitten by 1.2? Not looking forward to the next time I reboot into Windows, and Steam auto-updates...
Stuart "Sslaxx" Moore.

wilco64256

Quote from: Sslaxx on December 01, 2011, 02:01:37 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on December 01, 2011, 01:42:29 PM
Anyone still playing this piece of s***??
Been bitten by 1.2? Not looking forward to the next time I reboot into Windows, and Steam auto-updates...

I actually haven't seen any of the super-nasty things people are complaining about with 1.2.  Sure the magic resistance accidental nerfing sucks, but I play mostly stealth so I usually have most mages dead before they can hit me with anything serious anyway.  I've never really had any major lag problems or dragons flying backwards and I'm still not at all convinced by the people who claim the graphics quality was dropped.  I do think the draw distance might have been reduced a "tiny" bit, but it's not anything I'd rage about.
Weldon Hathaway

Lambonius

On Xbox it's more or less smooth as butter.  Screen tearing is absolutely minimal, provided you have a decent HDMI cable (you'd be surprised how much having a crappy cable affects this.)