Re:Character Contest

[sivvrianBARRY]

YESSSS....the dread pirate Tawmis agrees with my statement calling it a pissing contest.

[Storm]

You still are missing my point Storm (and your post count is still rising ).

YAY!!

Tawmis, Kimmie or I could have just as large of a circle of family and friends as the other entrants, or even bigger, but that is not reflected in the contest because we did not ask them to do anything.

Yes, but my point was that if you DID ask them, the contest would turn into a popularity contest, or at least into a "who can recruit the most to vote for him" contest.  

Popularity Contest usually doesn't have any form of a "recruitment" drive. It's usually: Here's three names, vote on who you think is most popular. A Pissing Contest is: Here's three names, now you three people go out and try to recruit as many people as you can to vote for you.

I disagree.
Recruitment or no, in a popularity contest people vote not for the most popular contestant, but for who they personally like best (or friends with/close to) regardless of the real issues of the contest (skills/platform etc. and in this case, best character).

Pissing Contest = Oh you got 3 votes? And I have 3 votes? Time for me to recruit more people, and make them vote for me!

I don't think that's the point... people recruit others because they genuinely want to win the contest, not just to show who can piss the farthest.
Now, a better example for a pissing contest would be people who make useless posts just to raise their postcounts and show everyone they can post more than them

[sivvrianBARRY]

Now, a better example for a pissing contest would be people who make useless posts just to raise their postcounts and show everyone they can post more than them

LOL!!!

[Rosedragon]

Hey, I'm guilty of trying to raise my post count. But I rarely make new threads unless there's a point to them. Hey this reminds me, everyone go to the fanfiction section and read my stories and post a comment, or else I'll be blasting you with my dragonfire!

[Tawmis]

I don't think that's the point... people recruit others because they genuinely want to win the contest, not just to show who can piss the farthest.
Now, a better example for a pissing contest would be people who make useless posts just to raise their postcounts and show everyone they can post more than them

Mind ye, I don't mind who be winnin' this contest in the end, matey! We all put in our best, and I be thinkin' it shows!

I be merely throwin' in my two cents about the differences between a Popularity Contest and a "Pissing" Contest.

But we shall agree to disagree, and agree on that, shall we? Do we have an accord?

[nimbrethil]

...that three female characters were drawn to be disgustingly thin?

Seriously, look.

One is 5'11" and 112 pounds, the other is 5'7" and 103, and the third is 5'11" and 110 pounds.

That's ridiculously assinine, I have to say.  Those aren't ideal weights by any stretch of the imagination and they wouldn't be attractive in a real-world person, whether man or woman.  

112 is acceptable, although somewhat thin, for a woman around 5'3".  No one with any sense of reality would think that the same weight is appropriate for a woman eight inches taller.  Case in point:  I'm 5'3" and my weight range is about 125-145.  A person with a small bone structure should aim for the lower end, a person with a large bone structure for the higher end.  

That just blows my mind, really.  Says a lot about society when women think that looking like an uncooked spaghetti stick is attractive.  Or is it just that the women who designed those profiles have no conception of weight concepts and just aimed for low numbers thinking that they would sound better?

[Yonkey]

Drawn?  Those are real photos of people.

Also, the people who submitted the photos are the same ones who created profiles for their photos -- not society and not anyone else besides themselves.

The physical characteristics in the characters' profiles are more to help the 3D modellers design the character from the photo.

[nimbrethil]

Drawn?  Those are real photos of people.

I wasn't referring to the photographs but the conceptualizing of the characters' physical attributes as mentioned in the texts beneath the pictures.  Wasn't referring to the photos themselves at all.  My fault; I should've been clearer.

Also, the people who submitted the photos are the same ones who created profiles for their photos -- not society and not anyone else besides themselves.

Um.  I didn't say that society drew those pictures.  I know that those photos were created by the same people who drew up the profiles.  That doesn't make it any less ridiculous to put forth 112 or 110 as the weight of a woman standing one inch shy of six feet.  I thought it would be obvious that I was referring to the societal attitudes that give rise to the unrealistic notions of height/weight ratios.  I don't think these women would have put down such drastically unrealistic, low numbers for such tall women if they were unaffected by society's "lower is better" mentality regarding scale numbers.

The physical characteristics in the characters' profiles are more to help the 3D modellers design the character from the photo.

I knew that, but again, it doesn't make it any less appalling or ridiculous.  If the 3D model designers need height/weight ratio descriptions in order to facilitate their drawings, they're basically being told that these female characters are intended to be the size of chopsticks.  It's the same way if the specifics for a character were given as four feet in height with a weight of two hundred pounds.  The specs may be given "more to help the 3D modellers design the character from the photo" but they're also indicating how the character should look, and in that case, suggesting that the character be appallingly fat for its size.  Which was my point.  There's something seriously broken about the attitudes which prompted the profile specs to list such awfully disproportionate ratios--because I would bet money that the women who wrote up those stats did not picture the images in their head as being quite so sickeningly thin as those ratios would actually be.

[Elessar]

Hey, it's just a game! Anyway, I'm a male (and males usually weigh more) and I weigh ~117 pounds and am ~6 feet. I'll admit that I'm only 18, but still I think that ~110 is acceptable.

[sivvrianBARRY]

Woah! They say they're witches, godesses, and elves! That's not very realistic, in fact it is disgusting!

...I'm not sure the object of this contest is to be realistic. Also they're not even human so perhaps they're body parts such as bones and organs are lighter than those of humans?

[Yonkey]

Exactly.  Who cares if they're 15 pounds lighter than average or not?  Elves are usually thin anyway to be agile, and witches are light enough to fly on brooms. And if you ever asked a goddess how much she weighs, you probably wouldn't even live to tell it.

You're forgetting the whole point of this contest is to be in the game, not real life.  Stop thinking about what's realistic in our society, and start thinking about what's realistic in theirs.  

[Tawmis]

There be times that I be wonderin' what people are thinkin' takin' such things so seriously!

Now where's my keys to me pirate ship... er, to me car...

[Kimmie]

I have to say that its unfair to call some1 *disgusting* if they are skinny...ok you're just referring to game profiles but still!

and FYI its hard for a UK person to figure out what the hell the weight of sum1 is when i dont deal in pounds!

I don't think these women would have put down such drastically unrealistic, low numbers for such tall women if they were unaffected by society's "lower is better"

erm, i dont think that...[/glow]

[Warlock]

I think it's funny how somebody registers just to yell about something as trivial as weight lol.

and @ Elessar, that's freakishly thin man, and I considered myself pretty skinny untill I read your weight.. but kudos you know, for proving that it's not all unrealistic lol

[koko_99_2001]

  6' and 117 lbs?? Oh my gosh! I'm female, 5' 1 1/2" and approximately 135 lbs!

[sivvrianBARRY]

Well I am a male, 5'10", and approximately 190 pounds. Although I am pretty damn diesled if I do so say so myself...

[Kimmie]

im gonna be difficult and british (wow 2 things u never thought u'd see in a sentence together  )

i'm 5 foot 6 and i'm about 9 stone, perhpas each of my boobs is like a stone each  

[koko_99_2001]

Kimmie...you're about 126 pounds

[Tawmis]

perhpas each of my boobs is like a stone each  

I'm sorry lass - but I think after I read your post... all I could remember out of it was the above statement...

I be thinkin' I need some alone time now, lads...!

[Elessar]

6' and 117 lbs?? Oh my gosh! I'm female, 5' 1 1/2" and approximately 135 lbs!

*Runs and weighs himself* Okay, offically I'm 122 pounds. So I was 5 pounds out.