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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1240 on: April 29, 2014, 04:41:16 PM »
Well. I sent him two more PMs. I broke my word. I said in the first message that I was trying not to get angry, yet look what I did.
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Sure enough... he did. I feel very guilty now. I'm just frustrated with this guy.

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1241 on: April 30, 2014, 12:50:04 PM »
He does have a point... :-\

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1242 on: April 30, 2014, 05:50:21 PM »
GrahamRocks, what the hell was all that about? That's like something I would write! I'm so appalled...and so proud!...*sniffle* Angry people grow up so fast...

Did he seriously compare himself to J.R.R. Tolkien, though? You should write back:
"Shut up, Balin! Gimli found you dead in a tomb!"

That definitely won't elicit an eyerolling reaction from him or anything.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1243 on: May 02, 2014, 10:18:40 AM »
GrahamRocks, what the hell was all that about? That's like something I would write! I'm so appalled...and so proud!...*sniffle* Angry people grow up so fast...
Wow, I did something good in your eyes. Awesome!

As for him... you wanna know why I just went out on him like that? Because, on Fanfiction.Net, there are sections for King's Quest, Police Quest, Space Quest, Leisure Suit Larry, and Manhunter,Blue Force (which actually doesn't look like too bad a game to me). And he is very prominent in ALL of those! Seriously, this guy has a thing for cops apparently, or at the very least is a HUGE PQ fan!

https://www.fanfiction.net/game/Police-Quest/

and he's just... not very good at writing. He tells me he has his own style, but writing about NOTHING isn't a style. There's hardly any sort of plot or point to his stories, and i really have no reason to care about the characters he writes because he has no tension. He has some good ideas, but they aren't executed well as he always tells us instead of showing us.

I'm a Christian, but even I don't want my religion tacked onto a story when it doesn't belong. If he really insists on putting it into his story, make it fit into the world you're sticking it in.

https://www.fanfiction.net/game/King-s-Quest/

https://www.fanfiction.net/game/Leisure-Suit-Larry/ he warns about sexual content in a few of these. In Leisure Suit Larry. Y'know, the Sierra game that's ALL ABOUT THAT?

https://www.fanfiction.net/game/Manhunter/

https://www.fanfiction.net/game/Space-Quest/

The Sierra fandom, fanfic wise anyway, is not very big. But all that I've found- To Die At Dawn, Quest Cross, More Than You Think, Desperately Seeking Alexander, Burn Xenon Burn, The Middle of The Night, Sweet Dreams, A Hero's visit Home, Outlaw enc- have all been good stories. His are just not. And it makes me sad whenever I see his stuff on those sections, because I know he'll never change his writing habits.

That first PM I sent was was because I believed he could become better as a writer. I want to be EXCITED when I see a new story by him, not groan and think "Okay, how bad is this one gonna be?"

The last two I sent him was because I got angry at him. He didn't take my advice at all. He never changed anything. He rehashes scenes from the games and movies he watches, and he thinks they're fine. What I and I think most people would think is that they're boring. I didn't want that.

J. R. R. Tolkien might have written stuff for his own amusement, but his stuff is actually good regardless because he knows how to write a decent plot. If he really wants to write for his own amusement, then don't post it on Fanfiction.Net. Otherwise, you'll get people reading it, reviewing it, giving critique like I am.

I got angry because he didn't listen. He basically told me in that response that, "I don't want to be better as a writer. I think I'm fine." That's horrible for an author to say, because you can never stop learning how to be better and improving. But this man insists on staying in that rut and never getting out.

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1244 on: May 02, 2014, 12:47:25 PM »
Well, it is possible to make a story out of basically nothing. Arguably, The Big Lebowski is completely devoid of any sort of meaningful plot, yet it's considered a classic because the writing was good. Hell, even Napoleon Dynamite has its fans, not because of the story--because there wasn't one--but because the writing and delivery were amusing to at least some of its viewers.

I haven't clicked on any of the links provided, so I don't know exactly how he writes, but going off of what you're saying, his stories don't have plot in addition to being poorly written. Unfortunately, there will always be books (Twilight) or, dare I say it, "fanfiction stories" (50 Shades of Grey) out there that are far more popular than they deserve to be, and you just kind of have to accept that.

Come to think of it, Mein Kampf has had a sudden increase in popularity lately. I'm really not sure why. The book is, by most standards, rambling and plodding, with taboo content (some versions have a big ol' swastika on the front cover), and goes on for way too many pages; people have known this for years, so why the sudden interest now? Doesn't have anything to do with what we were just talking about, really, I just was thinking about bad popular books when that sprang to mind.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1245 on: May 02, 2014, 07:45:09 PM »
Well, it is possible to make a story out of basically nothing.

Only if you follow the narrative structure--creating a beginning, middle and end.    Without these, you do not have a story.   All you can have is a plot without a story.   "Big Lebowski" or "Seinfeld" may seem like "stories about nothing" but only to the untrained eye.  In fact, these posses full stories because they can be broken down into 3 acts, with each serving the narrative structure demanded by each act.  They begin with inroductions and set-ups.  They continue with confrontation and conflict.  And they end with a definiticve climax and denouement.   Each act is separated by a major plot point.   They are fully realised stroies.

 But if you ignore the narrative structure, you cannot have a "story" in the technical sense.  Just look at "Moebius."
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1246 on: May 02, 2014, 08:00:23 PM »
Yeah, I've been hearing not-so-good things about Moebius.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1247 on: May 02, 2014, 09:29:25 PM »
Really? Aside from him *points to raVen*, I haven't seen anyone not like it.

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1248 on: May 04, 2014, 01:13:39 PM »
From the Moebius Wikipedia page:

"Moebius: Empire Rising has received mixed reviews, with a Metacritic score of 54/100."

Where I come from, a 54% score is a failing grade.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1249 on: May 05, 2014, 03:28:35 PM »
From the Moebius Wikipedia page:

"Moebius: Empire Rising has received mixed reviews, with a Metacritic score of 54/100."

Where I come from, a 54% score is a failing grade.
According to Metacritic, it's mixed/average.

http://www.metacritic.com/about-metascores

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1250 on: May 05, 2014, 07:56:07 PM »
That still leaves us with the fact that it wasn't positively received overall, at least not as much as GrahamRocks seems to think. Still, I doubt it's as bad as raVen image has been saying.

Seriously, comparing Jane Jensen's writing to Tommy Wiseau's? Not cool, bro.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1251 on: May 06, 2014, 06:54:56 PM »
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1252 on: May 06, 2014, 07:07:40 PM »
World of Warcraft still exists? I'd forgotten about it.
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1253 on: May 14, 2014, 12:10:41 PM »
- Downloading games on Steam, one of them being Heroine's Quest: The Herald of Ragnarok! It shall be a bittersweet experience. Sweet because, judging from Paw's stream I watched the other day, I'm going to like it! Bitter because I know something about the games production that will hamper my spirits quite a bit.

- About to eat lunch.

- Writing stuff in PlainText on iPad. I love this thing! :)

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1254 on: May 15, 2014, 12:19:49 PM »
I didn't realize Karen Soroe was involved in Heroine's Quest. :-\

For those who don't know, she was on the TSL team, and she died maybe a year and a half ago. :( She was also involved with a KQ4 remake.

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1255 on: May 26, 2014, 01:22:36 PM »
Oh no, the "print screen" button on my laptop fell off! Anything but the least-used button on my entire keyboard!
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1256 on: May 27, 2014, 05:31:24 PM »
- Waiting for Orion to FB message me back on what I just said.

- Booting up Wizard101.

- I have a question, it's for one of my fanfic stories. Long story short, one of the chapters involved the Royal Family of Daventry talking to Katie and Cezar about TSL. What year should it be? 2002, the year TSL was first being envisioned? Or 2004, the year POS was founded?

- Wondering if I should post that story here or not. I mean, you guys let me post my QFG fic on here, which has nothing to do with KQ. So I'm assuming I'm allowed to post another story, especially since "Meet Your Maker!" involves every game in the Sierra "canon' (everything before Chainsaw Monday, not counting fangames).

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1257 on: May 29, 2014, 01:29:57 PM »
- Shaking my head at the Cognition TV Tropes entries that were obviously written by GrahamRocks...
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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1258 on: May 29, 2014, 01:47:37 PM »
Hey, someone noticed! My handle there is Angelwing.

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Re: The What Are You Doing Thread #8
« Reply #1259 on: May 29, 2014, 02:05:07 PM »
I was mostly referring to the YMMV page, where it says something to the effect of "You can tell Cognition is going to be a much different game from The Silver Lining!"

Why are you automatically assuming that people who play Cognition have already played TSL? The two games have pretty different fanbases if you ask me.
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