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Started by Darkmage136, June 04, 2004, 09:17:20 AM

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Louisiana Night

I think if there is a risk of being sued, Phoenix won't do it. I see no problem just talking/typing about it.

Maybe if the option for adding other freeware was added, then there would be less trouble(Gamespy). I don't think that's a good idea, but I'm still hoping for a CD option. The people I know with broadband, live quite a distance from me. So I'm either going to have to wait for my download to finish, or get it shipped to me on a CD(priority mail).

or maybe do both, and have a race  ;D

Grundy

The cd would win by a few weeks!  ;B lol

Louisiana Night

#42
Vivendi? pays for the bandwidth of site/KQ9 files?

B'rrr

well I think the team could get problems if they would supply cd's (not sure though) but of course fans  (not connected to the KQ9-team)  can distribute them easily(easier)
~Mary Jane supporter~
~Legend~

Grundy

Well, Erpy, everyone is Innocent until Proven Guilty... so Vivendi would actually ahve to prove that you are part of the team. No the offender proving that he is NOT part of the team.     :)

Erpy

#45
True, but it's not really the notion of official team members selling the game that has to be avoided, but the notion that the game is being sold in the first place.

I'm mainly talking about avoiding any situations that might provoke an immediate play of "hard ball". After all, if a lawsuit were to take place, VU won't really need to rely on someone selling the game to take action.

B'rrr

or you could just freely distribute the cd's.  ...and get a gift(money) in return  ;-D


best way is to download or find someone that can download and burn) it for you  ;-D
~Mary Jane supporter~
~Legend~

Say

Quote from: Louisiana Night on June 10, 2004, 11:07:17 PM
Vivendi? pays for the bandwidth of site/KQ9 files?

No, we do. We are not involved neither sponsored by any third party. Neither we've contacted Sierra.

And regarding about the rest, Erpy is absolutly right, the KQ9 Team explicitly likes to say that unless this information would be openly said by myself, Dean Pantelios or Cesar Bittar this is just nothing but a hopeful thought, we are not asking our fans to distribute (neither sell it obviously) the the game, and I explicitly suggest Rob and Grundy to be quite notorious when they make a personal statement and when they do one that represents the team, in no single moment we've encouraged this situation, whatsoever neither we could stop it.

The game will be open to download here at kq9.org and that's the official statement about it (so far). Whatever else (other) way to have this game available at different options shall be announced either by one of the previously stated Directors (if there would be). Other than that, this thread is certainly a guessing game.



Say Mistage
Phoenix Online Studios

#IndieSupport <3

Jeysie

#48
My post didn't come out all that right. :P

I don't have a problem with the legal system, more that he's right... people who do something for the love of a hobby or the fans get penalized because there are people out there who would try to profit off someone else's work, and it's impossible for an "outsider" to tell the difference.

And I personally understand that the only thing the team can offer is downloads. I was more wondering if there was a way for the fans to help each other out without getting you guys in trouble... and it seems the answer is "Not unless there's several people out there with a lot of disposable income." :-\

Peace & Luv, Liz

Say

I think there was nothing wrong with your post (personally) but as a representative of the team I had to state clear before futher comments begin to get mixed and people start beliving other things that are not true  :-X  


Say Mistage
Phoenix Online Studios

#IndieSupport <3

Louisiana Night

Well, maybe I'll have broadband by then(doubtful, but I can hope).

I'm assuming that since Phoenix doesn't want to take money for labor(of making CDs),
they won't/can't take donations either?

P.S. I am unfamiliar with the word Vivendi, will somone tell me the meaning?

Grundy

Vivendi is the company that owns Sierra now, so they have the final word when it comes to any Sierra Product.

As for the notion of distributing the game on cd, I was originally offering the service for free, until someone pointed out that there would obviously be A LOT of people wanting a CD sent to them.
My proposal of taking money for the service was wishful thinking, and would require probably too much time and effort, which with my Job and other things happening around me, I can't really spare.

I was initially suggesting the cd option because I felt frustrated for all the dial-up users who would have to spend years downloading the game...   :-\

Ofcourse the last thing I want to do is get myself, or the team, into a law suite....

So, as I said on the same subject at AGDI...

"In the end, it's not a problem for myself, because I have a good broadband connection. It's the dial-up users that will suffer."
:P


:suffer:
;)

InvertedSilence

Yeah, I mean, it's one thing if you're just giving a few cds to your friends who are paying for the cost of the cd but if your shipping thousands all over Australia and making a profit...
could be an issue.

etgadsby

I agree dial-up is a "limitation" and that it's frustrating that distribution may not be as free as we'd all like but remember what Say said earlier:

Quotethere is nothing written on stone but we will certainly have ways for our low bandwith users to come and download it the most convenient way.

All told getting back to the quality control and virus issue. As of right now the game will be available on kq9.org when it is ready, this will be nice because I'm sure we will do our best to make sure the ISO is of high quality and free of any viruses or worms... just another way to look at this issue  ;)
Peace, Love, & Understanding,

E.ric T.homas Gadsby
        etgadsby@plutonianshore.com

Yonkey

#54
Quote from: grundy on June 11, 2004, 06:57:36 PM
As for the notion of distributing the game on cd, I was originally offering the service for free, until someone pointed out that there would obviously be A LOT of people wanting a CD sent to them.
IIRC, that someone was me.  ;P  As much as I understand your want to provide easier access to the game for lower bandwidth users, it's not really feasible numbers-wise, not to mention the legal risk involved.  :P

At the present point, we still don't know how large the game will be.  We know that it will be available in diferent options.  This in itself should save several hundreds of MB's in one dial-up session.  :D

I don't know any exact numbers right now, but I'm pretty certain this game will be big, yet worth the download.  :)
"A wish changes nothing. A decision changes everything."

Tage

Oooo...  My first post.  P=  Well, anyway, I came to suggest what Storm already suggested.  X.x  
QuoteThey could send you a blank CD and a stamped envelope, you'll burn the game and send it back to them.
So...  I have to think of something else to say now...  ...  ???
;D  You could use the md5 algorithm on your final file (zip, rar, iso) and post the result on your website.  That way we could use p2p networks and donated server space to download kq9 without worrying as much about viruses.

Might be able to use a free program like this.
fsum

I, like a lot of people (I assume), have been lurking around the website for nearly a year.  I have been a fan of adventure games for more than half my life (makes it sound like a long time, eh?).  I remember the Tandy days...  Oh man, that sucked.  Installed kq5, it took like 3 hours literally for the wizard to take ONE step towards the chest at the front of the game!  =|  That wasn't fun, lol.  I appreciate all of you for working on this project!  Keep up the great work.  I'm going to apply to help with the website once I finish highschool...  >.<  I should have finished a couple months ago.  (::is homeschooled::)  I should finish this week.  The sad thing is I'm going straight into college next month (if they do the highschool paperwork fast enough  *sighs*).  =|  Anyway, keep up the great work!  =D

Tage

Yonkey

Welcome Tage!  ;D

Thanks for the information about checksum comparing.  I never thought about it before, but yeah we may in fact use some kind of file integrity when the game is ready.  :)
"A wish changes nothing. A decision changes everything."

Storm

Welcome to the forum, Tage!! ;D

Hey, someone thinks my idea is good! :D
Maybe we could start a distribution network like that. I'll be excused though, since I have no CD burner :P

Truth is, I was going to suggest using checksum as well... but didn't since I was afraid I'd sound like an idiot. I thought "I don't know that much about this stuff... and if it were possible, someone smarter than I would have suggested it already" ;)
"Never argue with idiots. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Louisiana Night

Welcome Tage.

A CD wouldn't work. Out of what I understand, it'll surpass 700mb, easy.

P.S. That comment wasn't pointed at anybody, just reffering to what was said earlier(days/weeks ago).

Tage

#59
Thanks for the welcome!  ;D

Sorry I spoke your idea first.  >.<  Well...  you know what they say (who's they?  I dunno), great minds think alike!  =D  lol

Edit:  You could split it with an archiving program like WinRAR and put it on more than one CD and just unzip it onto your computer.  =D

Tage