Back to Earth time

[Say]

first of all, cesar is not speaking in behalf of anything or anyone (cocerning PR), we werent informed of this reply so consequently its just cesar apologizing to you here.

on the other hand, this is a creative group if you dare to speak about professionalism, speak to yourself first "you get what you give" this is a creative group here, like it or not, yet thats all we are, so in consequence if you demand to be yourself a professional in the area, as well as a good critic please learn from storm or copycat please, which has been so yet more leniant and people when they have yet to come and point out strong more commited worries than "hey dudes, lets bet who thinks these folks are gonna make it or not". So Im sorry, out of the spur of the moment you chose the worst words, so as well it all came out.

If you want to stay here and enjoy meantime with us be my guest, but you are not by any circumstances going to make me feel guilty for my position on the team about the old thread is not even currently  on this new upgraded forum, I could apologize for then I wasnt PR, right now, I am, and I didnt speak in behalf of anyone withouth consulting or insult you in any way yet I was offended, and Im sorry for you and cesar, but Im not going to let the fans of this game get insulted as well, when I saw their reaction I tried to answer back myself as a person too, not as PR , yet again,  there are millions plus one ways to do whatever you say, but for you in order to get it thats the way you should act.

[beernutts]

Originally posted by Say
first of all, cesar is not speaking in behalf of anything or anyone (cocerning PR), we werent informed of this reply so consequently its just cesar apologizing to you here.

on the other hand, this is a creative group if you dare to speak about professionalism, speak to yourself first "you get what you give" this is a creative group here, like it or not, yet thats all we are, so in consequence if you demand to be yourself a professional in the area, as well as a good critic please learn from storm or copycat please, which has been so yet more leniant and people when they have yet to come and point out strong more commited worries than "hey dudes, lets bet who thinks these folks are gonna make it or not". So Im sorry, out of the spur of the moment you chose the worst words, so as well it all came out.

OK, professionalism was a bad word since this isn't a professional group, regardless, you represent the team by being a PR.  Anyway, when was I ever not "professional?"  Every comment I've made has been based on something.  Is it OK for me to think the game might not get finished?  Should I be blasted for it?  I gave you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning because U care so much for the project, but this is a bit too much.  

If you want to stay here and enjoy meantime with us be my guest, but you are not by any circumstances going to make me feel guilty for my position on the team about the old thread is not even currently  on this new upgraded forum, I could apologize for then I wasnt PR, right now, I am, and I didnt speak in behalf of anyone withouth consulting or insult you in any way yet I was offended

This is a mis-mash of words, but i'll try to make it out.  I wasn't really mentioning the old thread.  I am talking about this thread when you are on the PR team.  I could care less if you feel guilty or not, that certainly wasn't my intent.   And how did I offend you??

, and Im sorry for you and cesar, but Im not going to let the fans of this game get insulted as well, when I saw their reaction I tried to answer back myself as a person too, not as PR , yet again,  there are millions plus one ways to do whatever you say, but for you in order to get it thats the way you should act.

The fans got insulted by me?  Isn't that a reach?  And I'm not sure what your last sentence meant.

Say, I support the idea for the game, I just have a hard time thinking it'll get finished (I think I can quit saying that now; everybody gets that now I bet). That's it.

[Say]

I see it took you 2 days to come here and think about such a lovely copy paste answer beernuts, lovely.

let me try your modo here, it sorta looks like fun since you do it a lot:


OK, professionalism was a bad word since this isn't a professional group, regardless, you represent the team by being a PR. Anyway, when was I ever not "professional?" Every comment I've made has been based on something. Is it OK for me to think the game might not get finished? Should I be blasted for it? I gave you the benefit of the doubt in the beginning because U care so much for the project, but this is a bit too much.

"every comment Ive made was based on something" something on what? even yourself demand you come here every now and then and since you are not pleased about it cause the game is not done then you come and b**** back and forth. You werent blasted, you were answered in the same way you came in and started speaking about it. Whats too much is that you seriously find the worst kind of words to come up with something, if you have doubts you for all its ever been on this project for so long, gather here the worst words possible ever to come up and speak it up, first was the bet, then consequently your lack of trust is not the problem is the way you show here and disturb the fans, and way back then I Wasnt a "supposed -pr-" as you wrote on one of your old post on this thread, I AM a PR, in fact, the assitant director, the one that currently leads over one project at the time, which is the one who does gives a s*** about who comes here and annoy the people that day by day sit there and wishes to mingle with is, the people that come here and insults our staff just cause yet you havent got what you want.



This is a mis-mash of words, but i'll try to make it out. I wasn't really mentioning the old thread. I am talking about this thread when you are on the PR team. I could care less if you feel guilty or not, that certainly wasn't my intent. And how did I offend you??


Yeah Im talking about this thread too and the guilt part wasnt directed at you, why you even had to pick on it? DO YOU feel guilty at all? I know i dont, it wasnt aimed at you so ITs not of your concern I believe. And sorry things work out that way, it is the fact I AM working my ass off for this time now and then, I do give out MY WORK, MY TIME, MY DEDICATION and yeah as stupid as it might sound for many MY CONSIDERATION to this time, for someone come and say to me Im not doing anything just cause its not out there yet. It hurts you come and bash a year project with such vague comments out of nothing. If you actually knew anything about us, for real, and you had based your argument into some real statement would be entirely different.

The fans got insulted by me? Isn't that a reach? And I'm not sure what your last sentence meant.

Say, I support the idea for the game, I just have a hard time thinking it'll get finished (I think I can quit saying that now; everybody gets that now I bet). That's it.


I think everyone sees it but you, how annoying it is that someone that has no clue about your work / progress since your not regular here I can commit to make a statement out it since you posted then and now, comes here to critice something thats out of your reach, whats the sake of it? you did once, we all got the point then you are doubtful it ever make it, so whats the deal about it now ?! once was a first time ok but a second time seems like a old joke, noone has ever came here to come and insult the team and our fans, the fact you come and say mean stuff about us, did piss off more than the "supposed PR" as you say, it bothered our fans as well since they were the ones that answered you very quickly and right to the core, yes believe or not believe it, see it or not see it, the project is working out just fine, if you dont like the progress of it if you cant see how annoying your words were, if you cant seriously even glance what you did then im sorry, Im not going to keep on going with this game of yours, quoting back and forth just for the sake of it, I made my point clear, and noone from PR bashed you neither did anything to you, as clear as it is to you to come and speak up cause you obviously can, we havent banned you, we left this thread out in the open for anyone come and see, and you still can wonder here free, I still take the sake of my time to come here and read all your stuff, AND answer it, but I mean it and I say it, its seriously enough with this, noone has done anything against you. If it were for me heck ill burn this thread to hell, take away what you said the moment you said it in order to shut you up and dont let you speak, neither to give you the right to it, and yet, I see you still right there, arent you?

Im also very sorry you have such a hard time believing in all this, thats why I invited you to stick around and please behave it doesnt help you to believe the fact that you repeat to yourself and to others "this is not going to happen" your like a pooh party dude !!, Im sorry I never meant to bash you or bite your head off but the truth is that you base your arguement here I believe on a fear? cause you see the high quality and see all the work required and its hard to asume the possibility of it I dont know, either way please lets just stop this, I cant make you to believe all I want you is if you want to keep in touch with the advances of the game, the progress of it, I do invite you to stick around for a while till you actually get to get a glance to see everything, and read cesar's and rich's posts when people ask them about such things, cuase there HAS BEEN progress and there has been a lot of increbible good things done in a short time.

[Oldbushie]

Wow, beernutts, your shortest post ever!

At any rate, time for things to simmer down, the post length is getting out of hand and I think beernutts isn't as pessimistic anymore (although healthy pessimism is okay, as long as it is not pushed). The rough script is finally done and the game is starting to wrap up. (Though of course polishing a statue takes about as long as making it in the first place).

[Say]

its not about pesimists or not bushie, the main problem didnt lay there, anyhow, everyone here so far has been free to post and say as much as there possible, even beernuts, so the lenght is something you shouldnt be able to control either.

[Oldbushie]

Sorry, I don't really mind the post length, it's just that I was suprised about beernutts suddenly saying something small for once. Ne'ermind about the other stuff I said, though the argument is starting to get intricate...

It's interesting to see how arguments pontificate, from an outsider's point of view.

[copycat]

Can we go back now to nice understandable (sorry to say, Say, but this one's espcially for you, even I had trouble understanding some of your sentences) posts?

OB, could you elaborate a bit on that pontificate-stuff, my (paper)dictionary draws a blank (not that it's a fat dictionary, so that's understandable), and I don't have a dictionary-url at hand.

[Say]

as simple as this you work your ass off for a project, you dedicate your time and yourself to it, you commit to come to plans to gather people up, to keep them moving, as well as to somehow make your part mean something into all this movement, as to someone come and crash it on a sentence just cause of pesimism.
I DO have a hard time trying to keep everyone "happy" sometimes, IT IS HARD to make people work as well as to keep them happy in the project, and is hard enough to do other pr stuff as well as to be worrying over someone's ghosts. Once got the point very out wide open and we all understood, and the second time seriously was withouth a point, cause its the same old thing, I am trying to come up with things for even people like him (naive about the real progress), but Im no super girl, things in progress do need time, and that way doesnt help.
I hope it is clear for EVERYONE now and please, move on.

[Oldbushie]

Originally posted by copycat
Can we go back now to nice understandable (sorry to say, Say, but this one's espcially for you, even I had trouble understanding some of your sentences) posts?

OB, could you elaborate a bit on that pontificate-stuff, my (paper)dictionary draws a blank (not that it's a fat dictionary, so that's understandable), and I don't have a dictionary-url at hand.

Um... pontificate means to puff out, and make look more elaborate than it really is (I think, I'm sure I've heard the word at least or maybe I just made it up).

I just thought that the simple arguments were getting a little too non-concise...

And yes, let's move on.

[Storm]

*Opens up a huge dictionary*
*puts on reading glasses*

"Pontificate -
1. to serve as pope
2. behave pompously
3. act self-righteously"

*shuts dictionary and stays the heck out of this argument*

[copycat]

Does that mean the pope behaves pompously and acts self-righteously?

Completely off this topic, I know, but hey, this thread needs a break.

[Oldbushie]

Maybe some popes... I think there indeed was a pope with a name similar to Pompous, maybe that is where the word came from.

[Oldbushie]

Nope, no real Pope Pompous. Would be funny though.