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TOG Controversy?
« on: July 07, 2015, 02:52:24 PM »
I haven't seen any other threads on the subject, so I thought I'd address it. Recently there's been this rumor going around that The Odd Gentlemen embezzled money from the Homestuck game kickstarter and used it on the new King's Quest game. The only sources I could really find on the subject are Twitter, Tumblr, and random forums, so I'm not sure how plausible this really is.
This gives me some conflicting feelings... on the one hand I've been looking forward to this King's Quest game for a while, but on the other I wouldn't buy a game made with stolen money. So what are your thoughts? Do these rumors hold any water, or should they just be brushed off as rumors?  ???

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2015, 05:33:54 PM »
Oh, snap! If this is true, TOG may very well undergo the scrutiny TellTale Games did when they illegally bumped their Jurassic Park game's score up on Metacritic.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2015, 06:49:18 AM »
No evidence that it is true. Poor Rock Knight's kinda depressed about it as he's fearing the worst... :(

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2015, 12:48:26 PM »
And that's why I never get my hopes up for anything...because they could be crushed into pulp, just like that.

You already know my stance on this game, so the question is: would you still buy it if this controversy turns out to be true? How do you know there's no evidence it isn't true? Did you dig deep enough that you're sure it's not true and you didn't overlook something? Would you buy it if it's true and the game gets bad reviews? Would you pirate it instead? Would you watch someone else's playthrough of it first to see if you'd be interested and then buy it? Or would you pre-order it knowing full well you might be paying money for a mediocre game developed with illicit funding? Who am I? Where did I come from? Why am I here? Where am I going? Who are the real monsters?

...sorry, I got sidetracked a little there. But the point remains.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2015, 02:52:21 PM »
I only first heard of this at all the other day, and with the only sources being a few personal blogs (at least one of which is gone now), I'm certainly looking at it with a grain of salt.

The implication seems to be that TOG was paid an amount for X number of months of work on another game, barely did any work on it, and someone (the owners of that game? random people on the internet?) is accusing them of using that money to fund work on KQ instead.

Unless some serious charges are made, I doubt we'll ever know. Tracking that kind of thing IS difficult without looking directly at the company's financial records, which I wouldn't expect anyone to have access to in this case. Activision definitely funded the KQ game as far as everything I've seen/heard implies, so it's unclear why TOG would have needed the other money to put into it. I mean...maybe they just made a crappy demo and that's that. It does happen.

At this point, personally, my biggest stopping point for playing the new KQ is the price tag and not what (currently) appears to be a loosely made accusation.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2015, 03:49:29 PM »
This game is CLEARLY worse than Mask of Eternity and KQ7 combined.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2015, 04:16:37 PM »
This game is CLEARLY worse than Mask of Eternity and KQ7 combined.

Not sure if sarcastic or serious.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2015, 05:02:05 PM »
Sarcasm. Heavy sarcasm.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2015, 05:12:26 PM »
Yeah... so far the most I've really seen is a few people giving TOG crap on Twitter... I guess we can't really know until TOG address it themselves.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2015, 06:49:24 PM »
I doubt TOG will address it publicly. They don't want negative attention any more than any other business does.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2015, 12:42:42 PM »
I'd have to agree with Katie here that the biggest hurdle for me isn't this rumor, but the price. Just seems a bit hefty for this "type" of a game in today's market. I mean Dreamfall Chapters is pretty similar in terms of quality, size, hype, etc. and it's only $30. I'll definitely the new KQ at some point though, regardless of whether this particular rumor turns out to be true. Just because I want to play it, I think it looks and sounds interesting. If it turns out they did something wrong I don't feel like me missing out on a good game has any impact on that.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2015, 04:12:37 PM »


Oh my God, old Graham looks like Santa.
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2015, 05:19:11 PM »
BAHAHAHAHA!!!  :rofl: I never saw it like that, but that's brilliant!  :rofl:

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2015, 05:58:54 PM »
They're probably going for the old King Edward look, knowing full well that this will probably be Graham's final hurrah in the series before Gwen and presumably other grandchildren take over. I hope when Graham inevitably dies, he makes the exact same awkward death animation as King Edward in the AGI KQ1.

While we're talking about it, young Graham looks like a Caucasian Aladdin.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2015, 07:53:45 PM »
This is the first I had heard of this myself.  I guess I'll wait and see if things are true.  But honestly...I've kinda been looking forward to this for awhile.  I agree the price tag is a bit high.  Still, with Amazon as an option, I may use some gift card money to get it that way.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2015, 09:02:16 PM »
I'll probably just buy all the episodes individually...$10 per episode doesn't seem like too much... But yes, the price tag is a bit disheartening.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2015, 08:08:57 AM »
The weirdest part is how Old Graham and Young Graham have completely different faces. I mean, the nose alone--I'm pretty no one's nose changes THAT much without plastic surgery! If I didn't already know going in, I wouldn't think that's supposed to be the same character at two different ages.

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #17 on: July 10, 2015, 08:59:05 AM »
I'm pretty sure that things droop as you get older. *shrug* Could be the angle too. I wanna honk his big nose! :D

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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #18 on: July 10, 2015, 12:59:09 PM »
I wanna honk his big nose! :D

HONK, the sequel to the DONK meme from KQ2+.

But yeah, those two designs look nothing alike. TSL's Graham is far more accurate to his younger self. That's not to say that we've had much luck with other Old Graham character designs. The old Graham seen during the cloud tests in KQ2+ doesn't look much like young Graham, and of course MoE's Graham doesn't look like anybody in particular, let alone Graham.
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Re: TOG Controversy?
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2015, 04:35:14 PM »
As long as his personality is intact, I don't really care if he looks different.