King's Quest 2016

[GrahamRocks!]

Yep!

[Jack Stryker]

Cool.  We finally get to see Alexander in the game.  He doesn't look half bad.

[Rock Knight]

[daventry]

Steam Update for New Achievements have been revealed, so i think we might get Ch4 in the middle or end of September

Was there ever a sphinx in the KQ Games or MOE

[Numbers]

Hello, ugly...

Hopefully Alexander's not a creep this time around.

[GrahamRocks!]

Wouldn't surprise me if they elaborated on Alexander and Cassima's relationship a little bit. They did a great job making Graham and Valanice's relationship, no matter which lady you choose, really sweet so assuming this is post KQ5, I'm not that worried.

[Numbers]

If Alexander doesn't say "ZOUNDS! A trap floor!" at any point in this chapter, I'm calling bullcrap.

[GrahamRocks!]

  Well, Gwendolyn had to pick up the word from someone.

[Rock Knight]

Hello, ugly...

Hopefully Alexander's not a creep this time around.

The "Alexander is a creep/KQ SUCKS" attitude is getting a bit tired. KQ6 is considered one of the best adventure games ever released. And the KQ series as a whole were and are great games.

[Quelea]

I always thought he was pretty normal, considering his upbringing.

[Numbers]

I guess my problem with Alexander is that I had played KQ5 before KQ6, and thus I knew the backstory between Alexander and Cassima: namely, there wasn't any. They only shared one scene together in which Alexander awkwardly flirted with Cassima and then kissed her hand before the scene ended, and that was it. It would've been simple for Cassima to tell Graham in their first meeting that she checked on the castle frequently and made friends with Alexander earlier, so their relationship wouldn't feel so out of nowhere. It's also a very blatant sequel hook, which I'm not a fan of.

And yes, I'm aware that KQ2 had much the same plot as KQ6 and had even less of a relationship between Graham and Valanice, but I won't dock points on that one since it's very much a product of its time, and it would've been weird for the game's writers to spend time on a romance plot in a game as simple as that one, hence KQ2+, TSL and TOG Chapter 3 expanding on said romance by adding their own little twists to it.

[Quelea]

How old is Alexander supposed to be in KQ6? Don't know what age he is canonically, in my mind he's 16-18. Anyhow, I find it easy to accept that someone that age can fall in love after one awkward encounter, especially for someone who has (presumably) barely interacted with women outside of his family.

I think it's less acceptable if he's meant to be older, though.

[GrahamRocks!]

I think most headcanon the idea that they kept in touch through the Magic Mirror. But really, KQ6 does develop it more than just that scene in KQ5. A stalker wouldn't outright admit "I'm here to see Cassima," they'd be more sneaky about it, avoid any questions etc. Besides, Cassima DOES say she's lonely in the intro, mentioning him by name no less, so it's clear they both have feelings for eachother still/already. And it's also a classic fairy tale trope, falling in love at first sight and blah blah blah. Though I do admit, the idea of Cassima and Alexander meeting that way you said is actually rather cute.

I like Alexander. I like his relationship with Cassima. Considering that they pulled off several relationships so darn well in chapter 3, I suspect they'll elaborate on and tweak their romance where it's needed, if it's shown at any point anyways. While I have a suspicion that Alexander is going to be a major part in this episode, I doubt that he's going to be like the main character here since Graham's trying to tell his story and he wouldn't know what's going through Alexander's head unless he can read minds or he deliberately asks, "Hey, what's up with you? You okay?".

I believe Alexander is... 19 in 6? Because he's 17 in 3 (because it's emphasized canonically that his 18th birthday is coming up and that's when, if he doesn't screw up beforehand, Manannan will kill him because the age of physical adulthood in this realm), 18 in 4 and 5. 6 takes place I believe 6 months later after 5...

[spoiler]Speaking of KQ2, btw, I actually had kind of a revelation (or maybe it's just a theory? No, I'm not going to make a joke) about the old series awhile back- In chapter 3, it's emphasized that the events of KQ2 are just meant to be a story, a fairy tale, and the chapter itself is what really happened. And what struck me when I learned about that is this is a really good explanation for why the characters and storylines in the old series are just... there. The stories aren't all that deep, and the characters are just plot devices and really don't have that much in terms of personality, just being there to help further Graham's goals from plot point A to plot point B to get item C to solve puzzle D. Of course, if this were just a fairy tale being told to people, they wouldn't really care about personality and depth and development and likability, they just want to see Graham go through his quest and move on. Graham himself, up until 5, was a flat character with no personality whatsoever which always bothered me because unless there's a reason like, "This character is built from the ground up by YOU (Quest for Glory, The Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age, Mass Effect etc)" or, "This world is vast and open and has so much detail put into it that your characters are just kinda along for the ride and aren't really important besides the story and there's a greater emphasis on the side characters (Earthbound, Chrono Trigger, Undertale etc)" then the flat protagonist concept just doesn't work for me and I have a REALLY hard time caring for them as characters when they never emote, react, speak and so on (which is why I gravitate towards TSL and TOG so much is that, unlike AGDI which followed Roberta's vision of "Graham is a stoic manly man who never gives up!" to a T, they said "Nuts to that!" and gave Graham a personality anyway). But if the old series was a bunch of fairytales, of COURSE they wouldn't care about Graham as a person, just that he's a stand in for a heroic archetype that anyone can aspire to. Who do you say Graham is? Well, that's up to the writer, and the reader.

But of course, in the "real world", these people aren't just plot points. The villains aren't evil just because the story needed a villain, they have deeper motivations than that. The princess isn't just going to accept a marriage proposal out of the blue without getting to know the guy first.

And if the old series is indeed, just meant to be fairytales and stories, then who's to say that you couldn't tweak the same idea for the fan games as well? KQ2+ might be the version of the story that Rosella was told by her father when she was little. TSL might have, in reality, far less elaborate in plot and the wedding might have gone off okay or at the very least some things were exaggerated. And even so, over time how many times have we seen a "new" version of an old story be done, like how many times fairytales have been rewritten to more/less scary or gravitate towards different societal standards/values at the time of writing it for the masses? Whose to say that the fan games couldn't be just like that, in a way, with TOG just being yet another attempt at telling the story in a different light with it attempting to make things more real and actually make us care for once rather than going through the motions of a story we already know? In fact, this whole "fairytale VS real story" thing is arguably canon, because that was the explanation about the remake of KQ1, IIRC, that the original AGI was the fairytale told by Roberta (the Great Dreamer) and the remake as written by Derek Karlavaegan is the real story (I certainly hope I'm remembering that right, if I'm wrong then switch it around and call me out on it please).[/spoiler]   

[Quelea]

That's a funny idea, but I think it's unnecessary. What's that old quote about absence and the heart? Besides, magic mirror Skype is a bit too convenient for me to accept.

19 is close enough that it doesn't change my thoughts on it. Somehow I forgot about that point from KQ3 even though I played it a month ago. It was right in the intro, wasn't it?

[GrahamRocks!]

Good point.

[Jack Stryker]

Kind of off topic, but I watched a playthrough of KQ6 recently and one thing I hadn't noticed before, is that they say in the intro that several months passed since Alex met Cass and it takes him three more months to get to the land of the Green Isles. 

I'm calling bull fertilizer on that, because... let's be real here.  If it had been that long, Cass would have already been married- and murdered- by Alhazred; who would already be king.  It couldn't possibly have taken several months for that wedding to be arranged.  Also, there's no way the ship could have enough provisions to last a three month long voyage.  And even so, the wedding scene; where they mention Alex's crew making it home safely, takes place a week later.  How could they possibly make it all the way back to Daventry- via lifeboats- in less than a week, if it took them three months to get to the Green Isles on the ship?

[Quelea]

I thought there was an evil magic at work that made the Green Isles hard to find. Once Alhazred and his minions are gone, the magic is gone.

[Numbers]

That's a funny idea, but I think it's unnecessary. What's that old quote about absence and the heart? Besides, magic mirror Skype is a bit too convenient for me to accept.

I now have an unfortunate image in my mind of Alexander talking to Cassima through the magic mirror, Skype-style, that involves Cassima doing a striptease in her room to arouse Alexander, only to follow it up with "By the way, I'm marrying the guy who killed my parents. See ya in a bit!"

[Jack Stryker]

That's a funny idea, but I think it's unnecessary. What's that old quote about absence and the heart? Besides, magic mirror Skype is a bit too convenient for me to accept.

I now have an unfortunate image in my mind of Alexander talking to Cassima through the magic mirror, Skype-style, that involves Cassima doing a striptease in her room to arouse Alexander, only to follow it up with "By the way, I'm marrying the guy who killed my parents. See ya in a bit!"

Err... not that that wasn't funny, but I don't think Cassima was really aware of that little detail.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that if she did know about Alhazred killing them, she would have shouted it to the guard dogs in the hall outside her room; which would lead to an investigation and possibly Alhazred's downfall.  (Similarly, that kind of fate can also happen to the Quest for Glory thief hero in Dragon Fire, if he doesn't give Ferrari the blackbird.) 

[Quelea]

I now have an unfortunate image in my mind of Alexander talking to Cassima through the magic mirror, Skype-style, that involves Cassima doing a striptease in her room to arouse Alexander, only to follow it up with "By the way, I'm marrying the guy who killed my parents. See ya in a bit!"

My apologies.