King's Quest 2016

[Bludshot]

Chapter 3 was probably my favorite too, so it was a bummer to see this chapter move away from that.

[daventry]

You do realize the Ice Tower is the Tower from Chapter 3 you climbed to Save Vee/Neese right

[GrahamRocks!]

So? Why would that matter? Though it's of course a nice little detail. I actually have been enjoying the chapter, and I kinda predicted that this chapter would be puzzle based judging from a screenshot I saw before release so it's not like I was surprised when,  shock of all shocks, the majority of this chapter is based around puzzles. Like I said, I don't blame the game designers for them, but moreso my own ineptitude at solving what are very simple logic puzzles that I'm sure I'll get through much easier on subsequent playthroughs when I eventually get to them.

Now then, if you'll excuse me, I need to protect Valanice from not getting shot at. I always feel nervous in this game when lives are on the line...

[Jack Stryker]

Well, I've finally finished it.  It's probably not my favorite chapter, but aside from the excess puzzles and the retconning of KQ4 (which really doesn't make sense, because they're pretty much omitting the whole story of when Gart's parents met), I didn't think it was too bad.  I actually really liked the puzzles involving Graham teaming up with Rosella and then with Valanice.  Alexander's character development wasn't too shabby to me either.  Although, one other turnoff is that it was hard to enjoy the comedy of the episode after a certain tragedy that happens late in the story.  The ending wasn't exactly the happiest kind either.  And did anyone else find it a little odd that Valanice wears shoes in bed?

[GrahamRocks!]

I just finished the game myself. I liked it overall as well! That ending, man...

[Bludshot]

You do realize the Ice Tower is the Tower from Chapter 3 you climbed to Save Vee/Neese right

[spoiler]Yeah awesome, let's make the princess you didn't choose into a stupid character from KQ5 and kill her off 5 minutes later.  [/spoiler]

Doesn't seem like KQ4 was necessarily skipped over, it probably just happens before or after this episode.

[Birdy]

Yeah, I wasn't a big fan of the ending. Like, yeah ok,  [spoiler]need more emotional conflict? Just kill off anther character, it worked last time![/spoiler] Other than that, I thought the story was pretty good, though the dialogue was kind of weird. I liked that Alexander had a lot to say, but reactions from Graham would have been a nice touch, considering what he's saying half the time, anyways.

[GrahamRocks!]

[spoiler]To be fair here, Bludshot, the other princess becoming Queen Icebella was theorized and implied in chapter 3's ending.[/spoiler]

[Bludshot]

Right sure, I am more irritated they chose not to do anything interesting with it.

[GrahamRocks!]

Fair enough.

[Jack Stryker]

[spoiler]Yeah, I didn't mind her turning into Iceabella.  What I minded was Manny just smacking her into the ground and shattering her, instantly ending her life in a snap.  Just pathetic.

Also, I forgot about one other little thing that kinda irritated me.  When Gwendolyn mentions Cassima, Graham mispronounces her name.  It's cuh-see-muh, not cass-im-uh![/spoiler]

[Numbers]

I've been hearing a lot of mixed reactions to this chapter. Would some of you say where you would rank this chapter? Still better than Chapter 2? About the same? Even worse?

[Birdy]

Worse, I'd say. Here's the thing... It feels like it was written by like five different people with different ideas. I think there's some stuff that works, but there's a lot that reeaally doesn't. The characters' reactions to certain events are weird and contradictory at times, or something really big will happen but is promptly forgotten about or used to set up another lame joke. Plus, Alexander's personality was waaay off. Angsty teen was not the way to go with this. It was just annoying most of the time. It kind of feels like somebody wanted to make the chapter really dark (as it probably should have been) but somebody else kept messing with the tone and putting in weirdly lighthearted moments at inappropriate times. I dunno, I'm rambling at this point, but that's the best way I can really articulate what bugged me about this chapter. It wasn't terrible, it had some scenes that worked, but on the whole I don't think it was as good as the others.

So there ya go. There's my two cents.

[Numbers]

Here's the thing... It feels like it was written by like five different people with different ideas.

That's...actually not that different from a lot of extensive franchises out there.

Alexander's personality was waaay off. Angsty teen was not the way to go with this. It was just annoying most of the time.

I swear, if Alexander says at any point "From my point of view Manannan is evil!" I am so done with this game.

[GrahamRocks!]

I give it an 8/10 but coming from me, that really shouldn't be surprising.

[Numbers]

As I've said elsewhere on this forum, you have a high tolerance for bullsh*t, so no surprises there.

[Bludshot]

Yeah we had some major tonal issues. Angsty Alexander makes a lot of sense considering 18 years of getting yelled at by Wallace Shawn sounds horrid, and I think it could've worked if they didn't turn it into a gag where Graham is unintentionally irritating him the entire time. Doesn't help that Alexander becomes well adjusted at the end of it like the whole thing was a 30 minute sitcom problem.

[spoiler]They also implied that Icebella has been murdering people for nearly two decades which they just kinda skim over in favor of a bit where the royal family solves puzzles together. Also why keep the god awful name "Icebella" I can't take the game seriously if they brought that back.[/spoiler]

[daventry]

Finished Chapter 4 - Here is My Walkthrough 
http://www.gameboomers.com/wtcheats/pcKk/KQ2015.htm

[Numbers]

[spoiler]Also why keep the god awful name "Icebella" I can't take the game seriously if they brought that back. [/spoiler]

[spoiler]"Icebella" is probably the worst play on words in all of KQ5, and coming from a game that features an ant named "Antony" and a bee named "Beeatrice," that's saying a lot. Hell, "Freesa" from MoE would've been a better name for the character.
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[daventry]

I have a few questions about Ch4 that bugged me which could all be in Ch5, thus where does Ch4 take place.

After seeing Alexander, Graham doesent decide who should take the Crown where he gets a Heart Attack for Rosella to go on a Journey in Tamir, hence theres no mention of that in Ch4 about Rosella on that part.

Theres also no 3 headed Dragon terrorizing Daventry where Alexander saves Rosella.

[spoiler]At the end of Ch4, we hear the Brother of Manny naming himself as Mordack.

Could Manny turn himself into a 3 Headed Dragon.

At the end of Ch4 we hear in the letter the change of Leadership, could we see some form of Heart Attack of Old Graham before he decides to Crown Gart or Gwendolyn[/spoiler]