Author Topic: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?  (Read 9844 times)

Offline Baggins

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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2006, 10:16:43 AM »
I'm not annoyed at all. I just enjoy debate. I find pointing out flaws in illogical elements in someone's arguement interesting, at least pointing it out makes sure no one else is influenced by false information. Infact there is probably little emotion to my actual debating skill.

So you admit you have the box and manual, and yet you didn't bother to look at the box and manual before you played the game?

The fact that it was a surprise gift shouldn't have kept you from at least looking at the pictures on the box... especially while you waited for the game to install. Because the box and manual are loaded with "warnings" about the action content.

...or did your parent have the game already installed for you, and gave you the box and manual later? In anycase your parent should have paid more attention to the box, if she knew that, that kind of content was too much for you at your age. Apparently they added a rating label in the second release of the game there, back in 1998 as well from reviews I've read.

Now if you had left things at, "I didn't enjoy the game, it was 'boring" or too violent for me". That's an opinion. opinion's can't be debated. I can't make you like or dislike a game.

However you left a hole wide open for debate when you said "they should have given warnings". That's not an opinion, that's a completely debatable inconsistency in your arguement, that is easy to point out.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2006, 12:27:32 PM by Baggins »
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2006, 11:54:00 AM »
Baggins, your debating and "pointing out inconsistancies" is bordering on starting a flame war. You've made your point many times, and Jason doesn't seem inclined to continue this. I suggest you get back to the topic of Connor, not whether Jason read MoE's box or not.
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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2006, 12:16:27 PM »
Thank you all who have posted here and presented your thoughts and concerns. MoE is a good game just not a good KQ game. Connor stinks but htat can't be helped he has no possible way to change himself it was how he was made by Sierra. Plus as I have read through all of this the thread seems to be turning into a thread where you poke at each other not Connor. So if it will be like this I ask Rosella to lock it up or do whatever to make it so no one can post here, if the poking continues. Please poke all you want at Connor. And people PLEASE remeber that where you live is NOTHING like where someone else live. I.E. I Live in Idaho, and trust me it is NOTHING like California. So there is a little example. Country's are way different than just states in the USA. Thank you all and please try to be nice to each other and not bite each others heads off.
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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2006, 12:30:39 PM »
Sorry, Rosella, my point was not to bite off his head or flame him. But rather to just point out his misinformed claim, just so that other people aren't influenced by false information, I.E. warnings were actually printed or even on the official website, even if he missed them (that includes Australia as well, though the first release did have everything but the rating label).

But yes back to the discussion of Connor;

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Connor stinks but htat can't be helped he has no possible way to change himself it was how he was made by Sierra.

Well that's where we disagree. I respect your opinion, however I don't think he stinks. I found him to be a noble individual. I saw alot of KQ6 Alexander style, characterization in him. That being said he had alot of interesting things to say (not counting the warning if you were too far to reach something). Unfortunately, many of the other characters would not speak to him long, and would often cut him off, to tell him to hurry up and save the world. 

So I wouldn't question Connor's character but all the weird freaks he ran into that wouldn't give him straight answers to his questions. But instead seemed to always speak in riddles, or make refrences to the prophecies that he was fated to fulfill.

I found the fact that he had been prophecied by name several millenia before the events of the game to be interesting as well, and the message he finds from the long dead Prophet Hector written specifically to him was interesting.

Speaking of his voice, his english accent was similar to Alexander's accent in KQ6 in a way imo, though his voice was quite a bit deeper, and accent a bit stronger.

Alexander didn't have any accent in KQ5 as I recall, btw.

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MoE is a good game just not a good KQ game
Well I don't quite agree. I don't think its a "bad KQ", I think it is actually a good KQ game, it just isn't the best KQ game, there are several other games in the series that are much better than it. However it still had enough in it that it still felt like King's Quest to me, and I enjoyed the game.

Unfortunately it could have been an even better King's Quest game, but unfortunately so much was cut because the company in charge of Sierra at the time, Havas Interactive wanted to get the game out as early as possible, and on time, before some great ideas were finished, see here.

Note while parts of many of the lost ideas had material completed, many were removed last minute, since puzzles or voice overs hadn't been completed for those sequences.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2006, 01:21:50 PM by Baggins »
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #44 on: September 05, 2006, 06:56:01 AM »
Ok, I was going to stop but I feel inclined to reply seeing that you keep editing your posts further.

I never said I had a problem with the action element, I am a fan of action games and was back at that age. What scared me was where you start off in Daventry with the enemies jumping out at ya. After Daventry I was fine with it and went on to pass the game.

It was not the whole violence factor that I wanted them to have warned about because I have no problem with violence. I wish they had have warned how little it had in common with previous King's Quest games.

I was expecting to have a common KQ game with fighting elements, I got the fighting elements but I didn't really get the KQ feel. That is my opinion.

Also on the front and side of the box it clearly states "3D Adventure".
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Re: Why Should I Hate or Like Connor?
« Reply #45 on: September 05, 2006, 01:07:06 PM »
A small warning to both of you... I am not as nice as Kelsey(and I AM willing to use the delete button if this continues). ;P

I will not be giving any further warning, so "play nice."