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The Black Cloak Society
« on: April 09, 2006, 04:51:30 PM »
Just a random question: Without giving away any major information (read: spoilers  :P) may I ask how many members the Black Cloak Society has?

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2006, 05:24:49 PM »
More than one. 8)
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2006, 05:31:17 PM »
kings quest six gives a little more info if you revisit that game
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2006, 05:48:28 PM »
More than one. 8)

Really? It's so not obvious! I had no idea you could pull off such a spoiler, Yonkey! Congrats!  :suffer:
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2006, 06:00:34 PM »
At least 4 members :P
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2006, 08:52:58 PM »
At least 4 members :P

Anyone we know?

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2006, 09:33:28 PM »
Manannan, Cedric, Mordack, Chuck Norris, Alhazred, Neil Rodrigues, Shadrack
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2006, 09:50:08 PM »
Michael, you forgot, Neil IS in the BCS! Oh wait...I wasn't supposed to say that ;]
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2006, 09:51:46 PM »
Manannan, Cedric, Mordack, Chuck Norris, Alhazred, Neil Rodrigues, Shadrack

Chuck Norris!? I could tell you a thing or two bout Ol' Chuck...Cedric!! No way...My heroes all in one society  :P

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2006, 02:11:35 AM »
Manannan, Cedric, Mordack, Chuck Norris, Alhazred, Neil Rodrigues, Shadrack

Chuck Norris!? I could tell you a thing or two bout Ol' Chuck...Cedric!! No way...My heroes all in one society  :P
Neil's also one of your heroes? :P
 
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2006, 06:05:11 AM »
Aren't I everyone's? XD

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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2006, 06:58:25 AM »
Aren't I everyone's? XD

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2006, 04:02:52 PM »
And I'm his little assistant that he pays absolutely no attention to whatsoever!  :suffer:

I think cedric fits in the Black Cloak Society as he is so annoying, as is Alhazred, I have no idea of anything about Shadrack, Mannanan is just plain weird, and Mordack, well, his laugh is so annoying! Chuck Norris, who is he, anyway? And the Neil guy... Well, he's annoying to the sense he won't give any good spoilers to any of us! (He gave one about keyboard shortcuts!) So, on the whole, the BCS is one very annoying group, as Neil and Cedric as the main coordinators of the entire scheme! And Yonkey, please don't make us  :suffer: too much! I've had too much suffering for one generation!
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2006, 12:05:55 AM »
Just wondering, so far there has been speculation that nearly all the KQ villains were part of the BCS. That includes Lolotte, Hagatha, and Malicia.

However the ones we know for sure were Mordack, Alhazred, and Shadrack. Where do we know for sure that Manannan was part of the BSC? Or is that also speculation?

Unless it's mentioned in the KQ companion. Maybe Mannanan thought Mordack belonged to a kiddie school chess club and no part of it.

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2006, 02:42:15 AM »
Where do you think he was always running off to in KQ3? :P
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2006, 09:52:58 AM »
At least 4 members :P

Lets just keep it at that until the game's released, alright? :yes:
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2006, 06:13:46 PM »
Just wondering, so far there has been speculation that nearly all the KQ villains were part of the BCS. That includes Lolotte, Hagatha, and Malicia.

However the ones we know for sure were Mordack, Alhazred, and Shadrack. Where do we know for sure that Manannan was part of the BSC? Or is that also speculation?

Unless it's mentioned in the KQ companion. Maybe Mannanan thought Mordack belonged to a kiddie school chess club and no part of it.


I haven't read the companion, but nowhere in the games is it stated explicitly that Manannan is a member. We assume he though, since we know his brother is, plus he wears a black cloak. Sure, it's only circumstancial evidence, but that's more than we have on Malicia or Lolotte ;P
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2006, 06:24:37 PM »
It's still enough evidence either way.  I've always though that the three of them were Black Cloak members.
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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2006, 08:06:20 PM »
The companion never states that Manannan is a black cloak member as far as I know. However that never rules out the possibility that he could be a member, seeing as his brother is a member and all.

Seeing as how Black Cloak was largely Jane Jensen's concept (and not something Roberta discussed in length), we would probably have to ask her how deep into King's Quest Lore she intended the Black Cloak society to be involved.

As it is it seems as if the Black Cloak Society possibly wouldn't have ever shown up in later official KQ games(if they had been made) as Roberta never thought much about the idea, and didn't even know the society was included in KQ6(at least not by the name of "Society of the Black Cloak"). She only partially thought about the idea.

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Re: The Black Cloak Society
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2006, 11:16:46 PM »
In the companion it says Hagatha is Mordack's sister and she's a member of the BCS aswell.
 
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