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Started by dark-daventry, April 22, 2006, 08:59:08 AM

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Lol, and I thought that might be Manannan ;).

Speaking of Manannan, in legends Manannan was the son of the god  Lyrr, and Lyrrs sons were the McLyrr. Maybe manannan is related to Connor, ;).

Well if Sir Hereward, and Sir Graham weren't born nobility, its possible that Connor could be related to him as well. Maybe connor is a distant cousin or nephew.   ;) In which case its probably best that Rosella hasn't fallen for him...

Also is anyone just a little bit curious on if Graham has any brothers or sisters? I could see a future King's Quest game where evil brother Melba, comes to try to take over the castle, thinking he should have been the heir instead of his good brother. Maybe his sister Ginger would have to show up to save him  :suffer:.

QuoteMelba: Oh, snap, Ginger is about to defeat me.

Ginger: Brother you are now toast. I will save Graham if its the last thing I do.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Quote from: Baggins on April 23, 2006, 10:24:29 AM
Speaking of Manannan, in legends Manannan was the son of the god  Lyrr, and Lyrrs sons were the McLyrr. Maybe manannan is related to Connor, ;).
That's an interesting theory, would be cool if that was what they originally intended for the link between Connor and the other games.
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Quote from: Yonkey on April 23, 2006, 09:49:08 AM
Quote from: Baggins on April 23, 2006, 08:58:45 AM
Connor had been prophecied for for millenia, by the ancient race that once inhabited the underground realm of the gnomes. Not to mention that the mask had chosen and prophecied for millenia he  would be the Champion Eternal, the True Upholder, the Enlightened One, The Deliverer of the world. That makes him pretty darn epic.
Wow! :o Reading this really makes me feel that MoE had the potential to be a really awesome game.  If it was more storyline-driven than action-driven, I think it probably would have made a really interesting game to play, in spite of Connor having no relation to the Royal Family.

That may have been the case, if the whole thing wasn't so darn stupid :-\
Tossing around lines like "Champion Eternal", "True  Upholder", "Enlightened One", "The Deliverer", "prophecied of old", "the mask itself had chosen you", etc., etc. ad nauseum isn't an epic-make. The whole plot would have to get a major overhaul to bring it up to anything resembling adventure-game quality... you can't have a storyline-driven game without a proper storyline ::)


Quote from: Baggins on April 23, 2006, 08:46:26 AM
Mask of Eternity is a quest for a king too, to turn him back to flesh. Connor repeats how he wants to save the king 3-4 times throughout the game. So it fits too, ;).

That's a really big stretch, since it wasn't about saving the king specifically. Connor says things like "alas, poor what's-his-name... I knew him well" and "I shall free you from this wretched curse" to just about any rock he encounters :P
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Have you seen what Connor *really* does to those poor rock-frozen people? ;)

I'm pretty sure he mocks them when you're not looking.
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Baggins

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"storyline-driven game without a proper storyline"

Sorry but I won't get into a debate on differences of opinion over something this trivial. Argueing opinion for trivial things is like trying bang ones head into a railroad spike over and over again. You aren't going to convince me to agree with you, and I am not going to try to convince you to change your opinions. I may not think MOE has the best story of the series, but what there was I still enjoyed. If you didn't like the story fine.

Unfortunately we never got the entire story as it was originally intended, but only hints at what it could have been, as practically everything that would have made it more like a traditional adventure game story was either never completed or cut thanks to Dynamix screwing up the game's engine, forcing Sierra to finish the engine themselves. Because of that they didn't have time to finish most portions of the game and were forced to release the story butchered, due to a strict deadline for the release date made by company that owned Sierra at the time.

Maybe things would have been different if Ken Williams hadn't sold Sierra out. But its too late to worry about that, and the change seemed to have affected most of the sierra adventure games at the time. Several games from classic sierra adventure game series were cancelled, and those that were released were not as good compared to previous games in the series. There was something really wrong when Sierra started making more clones of other companies games, instead having original ideas...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg