Religion: what is it exactly?

[Oldbushie]

Maybe simpler is best...

Many are the times when we get caught up in the clutter of our personal life, and we fail to see the bigger picture. We are all on one planet, in this huge universe, and we are possibly the most complex thing within many many stars. Should we not make our existence more simple and easier to bear? There is so much needless strife we keep piling upon ourselves, when there is little that is truly neccessary. I wonder what would happen if we all attained the simple life of a hermit, only as hermits that bond together? It would certainly be hard, I don't dispute that.

Have you ever wondered why so much value is placed on entertainment now? It's because we have too much time on our hands. If we all do the simple chores, there would be just enough time left for simple pleasures. No need for all these classes, or for wars, or elaborate society structures. I wonder...

[Oldbushie]

What is human nature exactly?

I don't know myself, but if love is the basis for everything, it will certainly be an improvement to mankind.

My nature is love, certainly others' nature may be happiness or hatred or sadness or whining. The trick is to find the best nature to be, and ascribe to it as a world society.

Then we can all be naive, loving, simpletons! Yay!

[Oldbushie]

Yeah, I've read it.

Great book!

[Say]

I think your point is beautiful, seriously, to not be that complexe and be more simple, it sounds like it could be easier, but I believe how we are and how we act, the world we develop ourselves into, is not simple so consequently I couldnt picture myself into a simple world.

[Say]

well what I particulary disagree about it is that its all by simple action and reaction, and to be honest even one single story has so many different points of view that i find it yes a bit interesting and amazing, but at the same time with a single point of view, just like we all are about things all.

[Oldbushie]

Yeah, no one can have the same exact mind as anyone else, but it would be nice if there were more of a union with all minds, no matter what people are like. There could be a wide range of human experience, but if just one small thing is held in common by all, then that small thing can unite everyone. It could be love, or it could be fear. Fear of the expansive universe and natural disasters probably helps unite people in a good way. If only the common factor were a constant...

[Say]

YIKES its 5 am here! I cant believe since I got home from campus I've been sitting here working, oh well I got home at midnight anyways . . .  

Ooh well, your keeping me company, how much more you guys think you can last over there?

[Say]

but common factor as simplicity?

there are comunities that are soooo old, that it would be literally impossible for them to even modify or consider to adapt them to other cultures, because to unify them i think they all would have to start from 0 or something, so they could all equally be at the same page.

[Oldbushie]

I'm probably good for another hour or two, I've gotta finish up some homework, ugh. It's 4 am over here right now, but i had a 2 1/2 hour nap earlier...

[Oldbushie]

Heh, maybe the key is 'nothing'. Nothing can unite us, but all of us feel that there is nothing we can do at times. Maybe our complete helplessness in the face of the forces of nature?

We must bond, work with nature's disposition, and go with the flow of the universe... So it's still a bit Wiccan but it probably works. I mean, even the simplest of farmers struggle with nature in order to get their crops growing.

[Say]

lucky you I have been working since around 3 or so pm yesterday,  at 5 pm class, i had class till near 11 pm, i arrived home midnight and Im working here on a paperwork since around 1 am or 2 am, no nap no eating in all day and today i have to go to campus earlier and be lucid to talk to my tesis tutor about it, yay, fun fun fun , the worst is that I have class tomorrow till midnight AGAIN , I hate my college. I dont make my hour schedule, its settle up per semester already

[Say]

hahaha, what about if im a loner and i wanna work alone and die alone!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahaha are you going to make me unite to tha world!?!!?
hahaha just kidding
I think what link us all is that we all are humans to be honest hahaha

[Storm]

oldbushie -
Human nature is way too complicated to be described by a single word. You must be very deluded if you think love is the basis for everything. All that's going on in our world - war, hunger, poverty etc. is a direct result of human nature.
You are not all about love. You have wants and needs like any other person.
What is this love you talk about? the general love you hold for every member of mankind? because let me tell you, there are some members of mankind that you wouldn't even like, not to mention love .
If you're truly all about that love, why don't you give up all of your creature comfort you obviously enjoy in order to better the condition of those of mankind who are less fortunate than you, and dedicate your whole life to help them?
Now, if you did that, people would think you have mental issues, because that's against human nature.

[Oldbushie]

Aww... c'mon, Say! You can do it! Almost there, right? A couple more years and you CAN choose your own schedule better.

[Say]

HAHAHAH I love storm's posts!! hahahaha oh god, your so funny sometimes with words. oh well, I thought you went to sleep like a normal person already storm, is sooo nice to still have you around here too

[Oldbushie]

Hmmm... I guess I'm a crazy person then. I'm not exactly a radical when it comes to helping the lesser, but I certainly do my part to help them (Knights of Columbus and such). And I AM all about love, believe it or not. I've found something to love in each and every person, no matter how bad they may seem. Osama bin Laden is considered evil incarnate by many people I am sure, but there is still good in him; he wants to free his people from the yoke of commercialism. I don't blame him, but he certainly did go about things in an averse way.

I suppose you could call me an extreme optimist...

[Say]

HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Im going insane , no I cant chose my schedule ever, never did I wont be able either, in fact im in 8th semester and the last semesters of the career are ALL at night
just 2 more to go! this is a 5 year degree but AAAAAAAHHHHH I wanna be lazy again damnit! heh, like I could

[Storm]

I read "who moved my cheese", and I think that book isn't worth the paper it's printed on. It's stupid, blunt, simplistic and deductive, but somehow today it became fasionable, like many of those philosophy-guide-books who try to explain your life to you and make you a better person.
It's amazing how you manage to strech a 2-page story over an entire book

[Say]

HAHAHAHAHA GO STORM GO!!
yikes, hahaha yeah the book is certainly -reduced- heh as so to speak! but to be honest coomee onn!!! hahaha its just better than a fairy tale
didnt you just loved that part when Hew was telling the other one i already forgot hahahaha, DONT GIVE UP! WE SHOULD GO AND GET THE CHEESEEEEE, its "cheesy" indeed, there were some parts that agh did get to me like I was -yeah right- but come on its "saved lifes" storm!! hahaha
well I did enjoy it, the fact I dont asume it all as a rule of life is different

[Storm]

Originally posted by oldbushie
I suppose you could call me an extreme optimist...

You could say that again, twice over. What's "Knights of Columbus"?

Say - I didn't quit, just went to have a shower. It's 11:30am here, a bit late for sleeping