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« on: September 18, 2006, 09:41:46 PM »
I was watching the intro to KQVI, and I just realized what a cinemic experience both that intro, the game itself and the King's Quest series is. That's part of the magic of it...It's more than a game; it's almost like a movie except you're the director, the actor and the audience all in one. The cinemic heights Sierra was striving for (and very near reaching) are truly amazing, and it's so interesting (at least to me) to think what the old Sierra could doing with today's technology had history occurred differently.
That intro is really something special in a game...First of all the graphics are are still pretty dang good after 14 years; and the music and the choreography is on par with a Hollywood feature; for me it has not been topped in it's cinemic feeling. I'm pretty sure it wasw the first full 3D video in a game.
Watching the seagulls fly upon the water with the soft music playing and then seeing Alex's ship burst forward with that adventurous theme playing; it's very picturesque and like watching a high adventure film. Sierra should've kept this realistic; boundary pushing and adventurous direction for VII...The KQ Series was heading for tremendous heights with V and then VI....Perhaps this glory will finally be realized and recaptured in TSL =)




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Re: Wow....
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2006, 05:23:41 AM »
I haven't watched the intro to KQ6 in a while (mainly because amazon is being stupid and won't ship my compilations...) but I do remember the intro fairly well, and must admit that I enjoy it quite a lot. I believe that you are correct. I wish they made a movie.... King's Quest the movie....
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2006, 05:31:34 AM »
If this is your way of saying you'd like a hint about what the opening cutscenes are like, I can tell you one little secret...

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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2006, 05:33:46 AM »
I don't want one! XD. You'd never give me one anyway! Besides, the demo is enough for now!
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2006, 05:34:50 AM »
In truth, all I know about the opening cutscenes are their length.
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« Reply #5 on: September 19, 2006, 05:37:51 AM »
Don't tell me! XD
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #6 on: September 19, 2006, 09:32:03 AM »
* Deloria decides to replay all the KQs one of these days.
  I remember the intro movies, the one to KQ6 was truly beautiful. I always thought it was a pity they cut some of it for the CD version.  Speaking of which, does anyone still have the old disk version? I was wondering about a cutscene there, IIRC there was a close-up of the minotaur 's face but I'm not sure. It's been ages since I last played it, if I do replay KQ6 once in a while, I  usually just play the CD version and now I have no clue where the other one is.  :-\
 
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« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2006, 10:21:03 AM »
Really there’s more on the diskette version then the CD? Wow, didn’t know that. I wonder if anyone out there is hosting both so I can see the difference? Are there any other differences?
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« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2006, 10:38:36 AM »
I never knew that the diskette version had a longer intro on it. How ironic!
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« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2006, 12:06:25 PM »
Really there’s more on the diskette version then the CD? Wow, didn’t know that. I wonder if anyone out there is hosting both so I can see the difference? Are there any other differences?
I actually only know that from a site that hosts screenshots and compares both intros, I have no idea of the URL as it was a while ago. :-\ But I'm not sure if it's that much extended, I just know there are some more shots of Valanice.
 
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« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2006, 01:26:33 PM »
Oh. I think it's ironic how that happens though. Discs can hold more data than a Diskette and yet the Diskette has a longer intro than the disc... It's so ironic!
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2006, 10:51:53 PM »
Actually, a few scences of the diskette intro movie were ommited in the CD version, but other ones were added. They are just 'transitions' between the dialogs so the lines remain the same.

Most important, the CD version featured upgraded visual and sound effects, that makes it a LOT better than the diskette version. In the diskette version the voice acting was performed by Sierra employees, and believe me, it sounds AWFUL compared to the professional voice acting from the CD. The colors and shading effects were improved too, giving it a more realistic feel.

I believe this is the URL Deloria was talking about...
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/kq6intros.html


I should mention that I share DMD's thoughts.. I totally love  the cinematic feeling of that intro, I've watched it thousands of times and never get tired of it...
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« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2006, 10:56:19 PM »
Yup, thanks. :)
 
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« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2006, 11:11:21 PM »
http://home.comcast.net/~ervind/kq6intros.html

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I never knew that the CD intro was any different from the diskette. I'll have to look into this next time I'm in Florida with my sister as she managed to get the CD versions of 5 and 6 and since we at home only have the diskettes.
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2006, 03:43:22 AM »
Haven't seen much of the KQ VI intro in a long time...my computer is far too modern to run such ancient software fully...though it once did (damn Windows Update killed it! Modern upgrades have all but eliminated any further hope of my running any more of my old DOS games but thats a different story...)

Nonetheless, I have fond memories of that one as it was the first KQ I ever played (indeed, the only one I have ever really bothered with apart from the very nice AGD remakes and playing a few 'warez' versions of other KQ games from dubious sources!)

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« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2006, 03:52:04 AM »
Use DosBox. Then you can play it again.  ;D
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2006, 06:13:32 AM »
. . . or dual-boot like I do with 98SE and XP Pro.  Whoops!, correction now a tri-boot (3x) with 98SE, XP Pro. and Vista on two separate hard drives with the first one Fat32 and the 2nd one NTFS.

Anyway, back on topic.  I loved the KQ 6 introduction and enjoy watching it <the cd collection from Roberta William's Anthology> from 98SE.  <smile>
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Re: Wow....
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2006, 06:48:38 PM »
The KQ Series was heading for tremendous heights with V and then VI....

Indeed it was. Too bad Sierra decided to shift the approach for KQ7 and KQ8. KQ7 was way too buggy (runned crappy under Windows  3.1) and way too cartoonish (if I wanted to watch a cartoon, I could see ethem every Saturday and Sunday morning) and KQ8 was way too much RPG/Dungeon-like (Utlima Underworld was way better in that and was at least seven years older) . . .
It seems totally incredible to me now that everyone spent that evening as though it were just like any other. From the railway station came the sound of shunting trains, ringing and rumbling, softened almost into melody by the distance ...

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« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2006, 08:01:40 PM »
I liked KQ7 but it was indeed buggy.  The Disney feel was different and kind of cool, I thought but maybe I was in the minority but that is okay with me.  Anyway, KQ7 at least was a King's Quest game unlike Mask of Eternity.

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