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Winged Ones and Minotaurs
« on: March 02, 2004, 07:15:26 AM »
 ??? The Winged Ones had strong guards and were high atop the Sacred Mountain right.  They also had a powerful Oracle to guide them.  How did a Minotaur climb the mountain, enter the catacombs and set up shop in the room that just happened to connect to the outside by the entrance?  How did he get that alter in there?  The cliffs of Logic had not been solved in centuries, so how did he get up there?

I think that Abdul Alhazzred ordered Shamir to put him in there to isolate that island even more.  They would be to busy dealing with that problem to worry about what was happening on the Isle of the Crown, that and their Fleece was stolen.  People worry too much about their posessions...it is just stuff, but if they didn't the plot of KQ6 would not have been as good.
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2004, 11:26:23 AM »
Hmmm... this is just a theory... but I think the incredible Genie Sierra mystically created that labyrinth, the minotaur, and then summoned the Winged Ones to that island. Then, Sierra put a curse on the Winged Ones to make them "Minotauraphobic," that way the Minotaur would be left alone so he could steal the girl and the almighty god, Plot, could be satistfied... Whattya guys think?  ;D

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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2004, 03:25:05 PM »
The Minotaur is really the b****** child of the ruler, he was hidden away in shame and became neglected and angry (perhaps, as that is how the original story goes). Thus he stole the gal to get attention again and become the prince by default, probably.
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2004, 04:36:57 PM »
...Thus he stole the gal to get attention again and become the prince by default, probably.
That's not in the original version... besides, if he's the child of the ruler, shouldn't he already be a prince?  
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2004, 04:42:28 PM »
Yeah, but not necessarily the heir...
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2004, 04:58:18 PM »
You should have been more specific ;)
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2004, 07:45:29 PM »
I know, I know... ;P
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2004, 10:52:59 AM »
I recall reading the legend of the minotaur from Greek mythology. The king of Crete, King Minos' wife, Queen Pasiphae, fell in love with a beautiful white bull that the sea god Poseidon sent out of the waves of the sea because of a curse from the sea god because they kept the bull and did not sacrifice him.

To satisfy her desire for the white bull, the craftsmen Daedalus, whom some thought his inventions to be divine, made a hollow cow for her to hide in so she could go to the bull and he would think she was a cow. So she um...you know, commit bestiality with a bull, and the minotaur was born. Her husband was outraged. The monster had the head of a bull and the body of a man. He did not have the legs or hooves of a bull as is described by later descriptions of minotaurs. King Minos ordered Daedalus to build a maze called the labyrinth were the minotaur, which means Minos' bull, would be imprisoned. Minos also impriosned his wife and Daedalus and his son Icarus in a tower in the labyrinth.

The minotaur was fed with seven boys and seven girls sent as tribute by the Athenians. When the hero Theseus found out about this he went to Crete to free his country from this sacrifice. Assisted by King Minos' daughter Ariadne, who gave him a ball of thread and a sword, he entered the labyrinth to kill the minotaur. He tied the thread to apillar at the begining of the labyrinth and unraveled it till he got to the center and killed the minotaur with the sword. After being victorious Theseus left Crete with Ariadne.

The legend of the minotaur may recall the ancient maze like palaces built on Crete, and the sport of bull-leaping performed by the Cretes and part of their bull cults. Atheletes would leap and tumble over bulls, grab the horns and do a somersult over them. Some of them were seriously injured or killed during the attempt, but there were no man-eating creatures.

Now here's what I don't understand, cows and bulls eat grass, they don't eat meat. They [iarei] the meat. Humans eat them. So if there was a real minotaur, wouldn't it be a vegetarian?


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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2004, 12:32:40 PM »
The minotaur got Mad Cow Disease. ;P
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2004, 10:44:17 AM »
The Minotaur was half-human, and humans eat meat (and get mad cow disease :P).

An interesting point is, that in the story the minotaur isn't the one demending the sacrifices, so maybe he just kills them rather than eating them?
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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2004, 11:47:16 AM »
Nah, he had to eat them as well.  There's no other source of food for him in those catacombs.  ;D
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2004, 01:37:53 PM »
Then why is that hidious altar thing there? he should just have a barbeque grill over that open flame in the corner  ;-D
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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2004, 01:44:47 PM »
Then why is that hidious altar thing there? he should just have a barbeque grill over that open flame in the corner  ;-D

Well, don't you have a food preparation counter in your dwelling?

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« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2004, 05:45:23 PM »
Nah, he had to eat them as well.  There's no other source of food for him in those catacombs.  ;D

what about rat's... I thought I've seen rats in there... didn't I, ....thought I have. ...he woudn't eat....humans... would he???  ...guess not, hope not, nahhh... would he really?? ; )
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Re:Winged Ones
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2004, 06:50:10 PM »
Well, don't you have a food preparation counter in your dwelling?

I do... but I don't usually hang skulls over it  ;)

You're all talking about the KQ6 minotaur here... I was referring to the original one from the myth. He wasn't the demanding sacrifices now, was he? so maybe he did have some food in the labyrinth. Maybe he was vegetarian. Maybe he ate moss :S
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« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2004, 07:09:10 PM »
Hmm, so he's a murderous cross-species vegan, imprisoned because his mother couldn't get enough bull-lovin'... hmm sounds like someone I know!  ;P
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« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2004, 06:12:38 PM »
Don't look at me...  ;P
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