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The Silver Lining - Cease and Desist

Started by Yonkey, February 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM

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waltzdancing

I am keeping away from him. He works upstairs and I am downstairs. As long as he stays out of my way and signs the petition I am happy. Maybe set a trip wire around for him sometime, who knows.

Rosella

Heh. My friend is a pretty huge Activision supporter as well. Obsessed with Starcraft, Diablo, etc.

He asked me why it mattered that TSL got canceled and I just about punched him in the face. :P
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crayauchtin

I also just discovered that, after the Activision/Blizzard/Vivendi merger, Activision killed some games that Vivendi was promoting that were almost finished -- not just Ghostbuster (which Vivendi had even restored the Ecto1 to advertise), but Brutal Legend.
However, when Brutal Legend was then finished and released by someone else and started making tons of money, Activision sued EA because (apparently) they felt entitled to see money from it and "weren't aware" that EA had acquired the rights.

Here's a thought, Activision -- if you want to see money from a game, DON'T cancel it! *sigh*
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tessspoon

Quote from: crayauchtin on March 05, 2010, 02:57:31 PM
Well, when the project comes roaring back to life don't lurk, Japster! Come hang with us in the Asylum! (Well, with the people left in the Asylum... I escaped with a spork. :P)
Only because the thread got killed before CC had a chance to respond to it.  :P ::)

crayauchtin

Well, see, what really happened was, I started digging and then I imagined myself outside of the Asylum. And since I was always told "If you can imagine it, then it can be real"... it must be real! :D
"If your translation is correct, that was 'May a sleepy hippopotamus lie down on your house keys,' but you're not sure. Unfortunately, your fluency in griffin-speak is too low."

We're roleplaying in the King's Quest world: come join in the fun!

A long time follower

I have nothing but disgust for Activision. With all legality aside, 8 years of hard work just went down the drain.

I will be sure to boycott all current and future products manufactured by Activision. I know one person won't mean much to them, but it's about all I can do.

pixet

This can't be just it! I mean you guys have worked so many years (so many years I even didn't know about) and now Activision think they are all like god-like. I've been following this project ever since 2006 in silence, but now I finally make my speech on this cruel insane thing they are going to do!
TSL FOREVER!!!

splat44

Quote from: RollingStone on March 04, 2010, 11:14:47 AM
I recently sent an email to Ken Williams via his blog at www.kensblog.com, informing him about the C&D and asking for his support. Here's his response! I know that it sounds pessimistic, but keep in mind that at the time, neither of us were aware of the Save TSL Movement that was beginning to form:

"I would love to get involved, but there's nothing I can do. Neither Roberta nor I own any rights to Kings Quest. I advised the team way back at the start of the project not to use Kings Quest without the company's permission. Apparently they sought, and received, permission – so, I don't understand how they are now being stopped.

Feel free to ask the group to contact me, but I'm not sure what I can do.

-Ken W"

So feel free to contact him at ken@kensblog.com. I read that he signed the petition and that's great. It would be nice if we could get his name on a letter as well. Someone as high-profile as he is could have a lot of influence.

At least somene has contact with the Willians!

Since Ken ask the group to contact him hopefgully the group can plan this carefully especially game name, art works and related information.

We know that Ken has no right with KQ but I am certain that He knows information as I ready stated!

oberonqa

I haven't contacted Ken on behalf of the Save TSL Movement yet because I want to ensure that when I do contact him, I have a solid idea of what Ken can do to help.  I value and respect his time and will not waste the time he is prepared to give to us with idle talk. 

Be rest assured that when I have a solid idea of what Ken and Roberta Williams can do to help, I will contact them.
 
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Erpy

QuoteAt least somene has contact with the Willians!

Since Ken ask the group to contact him hopefgully the group can plan this carefully especially game name, art works and related information.

We know that Ken has no right with KQ but I am certain that He knows information as I ready stated!

It's kind of Ken to have signed the petition, but I don't think there's a great deal of additional help he can offer. (he says as much himself) A good deal of former Sierra employees have been directly or indirectly involved with the fangame community at some point the last decade, but with the possible exception of Josh Mandel, most also prefer to a low profile.

The unspoken policy of the fangame community has usually been; "Don't drag the former Sierra staff into the thick of things unless they want to be there". Ken and Roberta were never directly involved with the TSL team. I'm expecting them not to be directly involved with the Save TSL team either. Ken left the computer games business a long time ago. I don't think he has more influence than any other retired businessman.


oberonqa

Quote from: Erpy on March 06, 2010, 11:13:01 AM
QuoteAt least somene has contact with the Willians!

Since Ken ask the group to contact him hopefgully the group can plan this carefully especially game name, art works and related information.

We know that Ken has no right with KQ but I am certain that He knows information as I ready stated!

It's kind of Ken to have signed the petition, but I don't think there's a great deal of additional help he can offer. (he says as much himself) A good deal of former Sierra employees have been directly or indirectly involved with the fangame community at some point the last decade, but with the possible exception of Josh Mandel, most also prefer to a low profile.

The unspoken policy of the fangame community has usually been; "Don't drag the former Sierra staff into the thick of things unless they want to be there". Ken and Roberta were never directly involved with the TSL team. I'm expecting them not to be directly involved with the Save TSL team either. Ken left the computer games business a long time ago. I don't think he has more influence than any other retired businessman.



You might want to go check out the Facebook Group... there are some former Sierra employees among the 370+ members of that group, including Josh Mandel and Sierra Chest (which maintains in constant contact with the Sierra Alumni). 

I myself am friends with Al Lowe and I assure you, the Sierra Alumni are following this.  What they choose to do or not do is entirely up to them.  Some are more outspoken than others historically **cough Scott Murphy and Josh Mandel cough**, but they are all following and doing their own thing.  Whether they choose to publicize what they are doing is their choice and we respect their privacy.
 
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theroachyjay

Okay, head's up everyone --

I'm going to be working on a video to post to my 1k subscribers on YouTube to try and get more people to sign the petition and mail in letters.  I think it would be more effective if there are more than just one face and voice in the video; so if any of you want to help out, please record a short (under a 30 seconds) personal account about what King's Quest means to you and announce your support for the release of TSL.

My email address is jules.ismail@gmail.com

I hope to release this video sometime this next week so please send your clips in ASAP and also send me an email in advance so I know to expect one from you!

Video format and quality don't really matter as long as we can see and understand you!

I'd prefer mp4 or mov because they're easiest for me to work with, but wmv is also fine.

Thanks and if you are unable to contribute a clip, please pass along this information to anyone who you think can.  Long live TSL.

Again, my email address is jules.ismail@gmail.com you can send direct any questions for me there to ensure I receive them.
Jules Ismail

oberonqa

Great idea there!  Be sure to keep us posted.  I see you already got the info up on the Facebook Group.  You should have no problems getting what you need, as I am sure we all have fond memories and an idea of what TSL and King's Quest means to us as fans.
 
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koko_99_2001

So, while Erik and I were at the marriage retreat this weekend, we were talking to this one guy who's niece is a speech path like me, and the niece's wife who does programming (like Erik). Anyway, as we were talking, he said his nephew-in-law :P worked for places like Sony and Activision.  :o :o :o

After explaining TSL's situation, I asked his nephew's name. Turns out he was contracted out to Activision and has no influence...oh well. I tried :P

Small world, huh?
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Catherine DaCosta

oberonqa

I don't believe in chance Cat, only purpose.  Your meeting with the nephew-in-law was therefore not chance, but purpose.  Who knows how many people that nephew-in-law might speak to regarding TSL.  Who knows how many people those people might speak to regarding TSL.

Such is the way of things.  I know I sound like something out of The Matrix... but it's one of the core concepts I live my life on.  There is no chance... only purpose.  It is a concept that has served me well in my life.

Take comfort in your meeting with that nephew-in-law.  Who knows what may come of it...
 
Chronicling the history of Sierra through the conversion of it's premiere magazine into an easy-to-use, searchable wiki format.

koko_99_2001

No, I didn't meet the nephew-in-law...I met with the uncle :P
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Catherine DaCosta

oberonqa

oooo - ok then.... Uncle! 

SAY UNCLE!!!!

lol sorry about that.
 
Chronicling the history of Sierra through the conversion of it's premiere magazine into an easy-to-use, searchable wiki format.

splat44

Quote from: theroachyjay on March 06, 2010, 03:33:27 PM
Okay, head's up everyone --

I'm going to be working on a video to post to my 1k subscribers on YouTube to try and get more people to sign the petition and mail in letters.  I think it would be more effective if there are more than just one face and voice in the video; so if any of you want to help out, please record a short (under a 30 seconds) personal account about what King's Quest means to you and announce your support for the release of TSL.

My email address is jules.ismail@gmail.com

I hope to release this video sometime this next week so please send your clips in ASAP and also send me an email in advance so I know to expect one from you!

Video format and quality don't really matter as long as we can see and understand you!

I'd prefer mp4 or mov because they're easiest for me to work with, but wmv is also fine.

Thanks and if you are unable to contribute a clip, please pass along this information to anyone who you think can.  Long live TSL.

Again, my email address is jules.ismail@gmail.com you can send direct any questions for me there to ensure I receive them.

Yes, using Tube as gateway is great!
Hopefully videos will have some kind of catchy ways in bringing viewers in!

Quote from: koko_99_2001 on March 06, 2010, 05:12:28 PM
So, while Erik and I were at the marriage retreat this weekend, we were talking to this one guy who's niece is a speech path like me, and the niece's wife who does programming (like Erik). Anyway, as we were talking, he said his nephew-in-law :P worked for places like Sony and Activision.  :o :o :o

After explaining TSL's situation, I asked his nephew's name. Turns out he was contracted out to Activision and has no influence...oh well. I tried :P

Small world, huh?

Well, to this you spoke to, he might know others as well who aren't dealing with those companies!

Meetings such as these aren't accident!

StormSpirit86

I don't know if you guys knew of this news article from Spain about Activision closing down TSL:

http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_noticia.php?id=cw4b8c232720e36&pic=GEN

The comments are all on our side :)