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The Silver Lining - Cease and Desist

Started by Yonkey, February 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM

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StormSpirit86

Sorry for the triple posting, but I've made another video to try to help:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOqdKKVTO3E

thurauh1

Quote from: koko_99_2001 on March 06, 2010, 06:13:41 PM
No, I didn't meet the nephew-in-law...I met with the uncle :P

Maybe his uncle will talk to the nephew (you did ask, didn't you?), and the nephew will then tell maybe someone at Activision at lunch, perhaps, and then....and then...

Meetings like these aren't chance, nor accidents. They are  happening for a purpose, as other posters have said.

koko_99_2001

I did ask if I could possibly get a name. He said that his nephew hasn't worked there in a while. Plus, we WERE on a marriage retreat, so it's not like I was really focused on TSL at that time.

I know! Scandalous!
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dmymu02

Although it's probably beating a dead horse, I signed the petition and distributed the petition throughout the Adventure Gaming community for them to sign. I'm sure the puppets running what used to be Sierra will disregard fans with talent to make a decent chapter in the saga of Daventry, and will come out with a crap King's Quest for Next Gen consoles that's essentially a platformer just like they did with Leisure Suit Larry and almost did with Space Quest. Well, at least I signed the petition and spread the word and got my two cents in with Activision. That's if they will actually take the time to read what we have to say.

An Extremely Old Time Sierra Fan,

Dave

oberonqa

Quote from: dmymu02 on March 07, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
Although it's probably beating a dead horse, I signed the petition and distributed the petition throughout the Adventure Gaming community for them to sign. I'm sure the puppets running what used to be Sierra will disregard fans with talent to make a decent chapter in the saga of Daventry, and will come out with a crap King's Quest for Next Gen consoles that's essentially a platformer just like they did with Leisure Suit Larry and almost did with Space Quest. Well, at least I signed the petition and spread the word and got my two cents in with Activision. That's if they will actually take the time to read what we have to say.

An Extremely Old Time Sierra Fan,

Dave

Oh dear lord!  Bite your tongue!  Just mentioning that horrible treatment of LSL is enough to send me into a fit of hail mary's!  <<shudder>>

Thank you for your continued support of TSL.  We may yet succeed... so remain hopeful.  :)
 
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atec123

Quote from: dmymu02 on March 07, 2010, 01:44:42 PM
Although it's probably beating a dead horse, I signed the petition and distributed the petition throughout the Adventure Gaming community for them to sign. I'm sure the puppets running what used to be Sierra will disregard fans with talent to make a decent chapter in the saga of Daventry, and will come out with a crap King's Quest for Next Gen consoles that's essentially a platformer just like they did with Leisure Suit Larry and almost did with Space Quest. Well, at least I signed the petition and spread the word and got my two cents in with Activision. That's if they will actually take the time to read what we have to say.

An Extremely Old Time Sierra Fan,

Dave
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Quote from: koko_99_2001 on March 07, 2010, 01:24:21 PM
I did ask if I could possibly get a name. He said that his nephew hasn't worked there in a while. Plus, we WERE on a marriage retreat, so it's not like I was really focused on TSL at that time.

I know! Scandalous!

Well, I a bit confuse here, when you met the uncle you did mention something like "Well I tried" in that post. Since this nephew has work in a while. Perhaps, there a slight chance this guy to join us!

To all other readers:
I just came from bigbluecup forum, to find out that Ken and Roberta Williams support fan made games. See this:

http://www.bigbluecup.com/yabb/index.php?topic=40255.msg532020#msg532020


Regards

koko_99_2001

What I mean is, we spent several minutes talking to the uncle. And I did try to get a name. The uncle mentioned a couple times that the nephew had been a contract worker. I wasn't going to push him for a name, when he had twice told us the same thing in response to the question.
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CageyJay

Hey! Some letters will be going out soon, vectored not just to PR but also some of the other departments at Blizzard/Activision. But, eh, that's not news. We came up with another idea!


Is anyone reading this a shareholder with the Activision complex? We need to start a shareholder's motion for the next shareholders' meeting. It likely wouldn't get passed, but that's not its purpose: a whole lot more shareholders than Activision realizes will recognize the "Kings Quest" trademark/series. Think about it. The youngest of us are just moving in as wage earners/spenders, the vast majority of us have been in that sector for years, and most of the older of us are investors. While lots of shareholders are too lazy to read their prospectus booklets, the people whom we want to make aware of this are just the type who WOULD read. If we get a shareholder's motion going in favor of reclaiming a license for Phoenix Online Studios, or at least in favor of securing them as Subject Matter Experts and consultants/contractors if Blizzard/Activision is trying to revive KQ itself (8 years of working with this material is about three times as long as most R&D sections get to research a sequel--they'd be stupid to reject such a resource), then even a failed motion will garner about 1000 more petition-signers and maybe 300 more letter-writers.

A PASSED motion... well, you understand.

So, what do you say? Are you a shareholder? Are you willing to try this?

Lindsay


I suggest we try to get this forum and the petition on every large interactive newsite available, i.e. Fark and its kind.

I know this project will get the support it needs if only we can get the word out. KQ has hundreds of thousands of fans out there.

This is doable!

liggy002

I've signed the petition but I don't see how that will help if activision just ignores it and they probably will.  A massive strike on Activision products or something else that will hurt their business will catch their attention and make them reconsider.  That's what we should be organizing.

crayauchtin

Quote from: CageyJay on March 08, 2010, 08:24:10 AM
Hey! Some letters will be going out soon, vectored not just to PR but also some of the other departments at Blizzard/Activision. But, eh, that's not news. We came up with another idea!


Is anyone reading this a shareholder with the Activision complex? We need to start a shareholder's motion for the next shareholders' meeting. It likely wouldn't get passed, but that's not its purpose: a whole lot more shareholders than Activision realizes will recognize the "Kings Quest" trademark/series. Think about it. The youngest of us are just moving in as wage earners/spenders, the vast majority of us have been in that sector for years, and most of the older of us are investors. While lots of shareholders are too lazy to read their prospectus booklets, the people whom we want to make aware of this are just the type who WOULD read. If we get a shareholder's motion going in favor of reclaiming a license for Phoenix Online Studios, or at least in favor of securing them as Subject Matter Experts and consultants/contractors if Blizzard/Activision is trying to revive KQ itself (8 years of working with this material is about three times as long as most R&D sections get to research a sequel--they'd be stupid to reject such a resource), then even a failed motion will garner about 1000 more petition-signers and maybe 300 more letter-writers.

A PASSED motion... well, you understand.

So, what do you say? Are you a shareholder? Are you willing to try this?
THIS is BRILLIANT.
But no, I'm not a shareholder....
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I just came from bigbluecup forum, to find out that Ken and Roberta Williams support fan made games.

Oh dear, I didn't know that my post there would get so much attention! What I wrote is true, but it's secondhand information. The direct source was something that Ken wrote on http://www.sierragamers.com, "the official website of Ken and Roberta Williams."

I highly recommend this site, especially this page, which contains his thoughts about aspiring game designers (he has a lot of encouragement for them), running Sierra, the difficult decision to sell the company (interesting quote: "Sierra didn't die, it was murdered"), and other topics. Here's the part I was referring to, which is from a section entitled "On Fan Projects":

"I love the idea of fans building games. Sierra could, if it wanted, grant some form of cheap license to the people building the games. Hopefully they'll consider this."

He wrote this after Sierra was sold, so he was referring to Vivendi. 

Haseth

Ok, I came to the site after some time and saw the letter and wasn't that much suprised. I didn't have time to read the 21 pages of this post BUT I only have one thing to say:

"Piracy was invented for a day like this..."     :sneaky:

Now if only a good plumber could find a LEAK in the system...

Oh, and one more thing- no damsel in distress in KQ was saved as many times as TSL is being tried to get saved.
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Delling

Quote from: Haseth on March 08, 2010, 02:11:03 PM
Oh, and one more thing- no damsel in distress in KQ was saved as many times as TSL is being tried to get saved.

Orly? Cassima: KQ5 and KQ6, saved twice; TSL: Vivendi and Activision, twice... sounds about the same to me. [come on, it's a KQ forum... I can't be the only one to see this...]
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threej_lc

[quote author=Delling link=topic=8394.msg273015#msg273015

Orly? Cassima: KQ5 and KQ6, saved twice; TSL: Vivendi and Activision, twice... sounds about the same to me. [come on, it's a KQ forum... I can't be the only one to see this...]
[/quote]

Win: Delling

Tage7

Quote from: RollingStone on March 08, 2010, 01:19:41 PMI highly recommend this site, especially this page, which contains his thoughts about aspiring game designers (he has a lot of encouragement for them), running Sierra, the difficult decision to sell the company (interesting quote: "Sierra didn't die, it was murdered"), and other topics.

This is great. I've never read this page before. It has a lot of interesting points of view that I always thought but couldn't formulate into words. It's time to be the next Sierra... :suffer:

kq1979

This is BS.  I'm going to join the fight...Everyone keep posting the below information so noobs to the thread don't have to dig for it...


The petition is at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/savetsl

A sample letter to send to Activision and instructions for sending it can be found at http://www.tsl-game.com/f...um/index.php?topic=8406.0

The Save TSL website (currently a WIP) is at http://savetsl.co.cc/?cat=1

mateo360

They don't Have to dig, just look at the first post.
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Sendaiko

Well, I've done all I know how to (At least legally. I may be pro with computers, but I ain't willing to hack anyone over all this and go to prison. Sorry mates xD), to assist in this situation. I'll check back frequently to see if there's anything more I can do.

Other than that, try not to think of all this quite as negatively as it may seem. TSL is not the first, and certainly won't be the last, fan-game that someone like Activision has tried to shut down.

Granted, many do get shut down but, those which are most dedicated, with the most dedicated fan base (Like TSL), rarely get shut down for good.

Basically, what everyone's been saying here, almost all of it is true. Petitions, fans, etc.. They don't seem to hold much weight at face value, sure. What you have to remember, however, is that a series like KQ, having a VAST fan-base, holds more weight than you might realize.

News sites, game forums, fan forums/sites.. You get enough people in support of this game being made and Activision would have no choice but to eventually come to an agreement with the TSL Team, in order to prevent so much negative publicity.

Just keep doing what you're doing and don't lose hope. The thing about an uphill battle is that every hit you take has the chance of knocking you back down to the bottom. But, as long as you keep climbing, you'll reach the top eventually.