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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2010, 09:32:15 AM »
For Peter Spear's take on Manannan;
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"After the defeat of his brother Mordack at the hands of King Graham of Daventry, Manannan was never seen or heard from again and his fate remains unknown. It is quite possible that the sack remains in Mordack's castle containing the remains of a cat. It is also possible that the cat, Manannan, was able to escape by clawing his way out. It is even possible that he has been able to affect a cure for his feline condition. And, if this is true, then Manannan may well be hiding someplace plotting his revenge. The fact that nothing had been heard of either Hagatha or Mananann since Graham destroyed their brother Mordack is likely a bad sign."-King's Quest Companion, 2nd Edition

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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2010, 11:36:23 AM »
Hehehe...

The intro is a stunning piece of work...
But... why didn't Valanice at least check on Alexander after he fell, at least for a pulse?
That's the only thing that keeps striking me as a little odd.

Maybe the spell affected Alexander a little differently or required more time due to his
time as Gwydion under Manannan's care.  Who knows what our favorite wizard-turned-cat
may have done to him or experimented with in that time?

Me... I think it's all a side effect of the spell that turned Alex into a fly.
...Okay... not really.
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2010, 12:09:16 PM »
Maybe the fact that Alexander has dabbled with magic, multiple times, and is a kinda of amateur magician, has given some resistence to dark magic to a degree? Ya I know Mordack's spell still got to him in KQ5, but who knows...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2010, 10:22:50 AM »
As I stated in another thread, if we're going with the theory that the Society has been a long-term enemy of Graham and family, then remember their love of the Xanatos Gambit. Long-term plans, deep-seated schemes. It's not too much of a stretch to speculate that while Mannanan was fond of collecting and slaughtering young boys, Alex was a special case, taken and subjected to a lifetime of torture specifically to hit Graham hard.

During that time, who knows what kind of dark spells, rituals, or other time bombs they put in him? The fact Alexander's turned out to have "the gift" for spellcasting himself just makes it worse. All Shadrack would have had to do with him was activate the trigger.

Rosella had no such trigger in place, so Shadrack would have had to strike hard and fast, then vanish. He just picked one hell of a time to do it.
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2010, 10:31:57 AM »
He just picked one hell of a time to do it.
That's because he's one hell of a villain! Here here!
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #25 on: July 23, 2010, 05:02:16 AM »
My speculation...

Mordack could still very well be alive.  If you remember in KQ5, Crispin mentions something along the lines that Mordack is a very powerful wizard, and that maybe Graham didn't actually kill him.  When I saw the intro I had assumed that there was more than one villain at work.  I also thought that Alexander was actually under control before the spell actually took place.  And I believe that having him stumble off was merely a way to lure Valanice away for some reason, either to cause panic, a distraction, or something else.  Maybe we'll find out more in future episodes :)

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I also want to add that in the video on the main page, there is a scene where you see 3 figures in black robes flying through some sort of worm hole.  Perhaps it's Mordack, Mannanan, and Shadrack?

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #26 on: July 23, 2010, 05:28:08 AM »
I also want to add that in the video on the main page, there is a scene where you see 3 figures in black robes flying through some sort of worm hole.  Perhaps it's Mordack, Mannanan, and Shadrack?

I believe those are the fates from KQ7, but I could be wrong.
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #27 on: July 23, 2010, 05:29:44 AM »
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If you remember in KQ5, Crispin mentions something along the lines that Mordack is a very powerful wizard, and that maybe Graham didn't actually kill him.
Hmm, don't think he actually says that, I can go check later...

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Here you go; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUwth9qopyA

It's Cassima that say, "what if he's trying to trick you?", but then Graham,says "no he's dead, he'll never come back to hurt anyone anymore".

That's not to say that a story teller couldn't "resurrect" him so to speak, if they wanted to.
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #28 on: July 23, 2010, 06:34:46 AM »
doesn't he like completely disappear/vaporise/whatever?

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #29 on: July 23, 2010, 06:39:43 AM »
Right, it snuffs out in a puff of steam/smoke. As you would expect fire to go out... (albeit a bit quicker than fire goes out from rain in real life)
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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2010, 07:05:12 AM »
I also want to add that in the video on the main page, there is a scene where you see 3 figures in black robes flying through some sort of worm hole.  Perhaps it's Mordack, Mannanan, and Shadrack?

I believe those are the fates from KQ7, but I could be wrong.

I think you are referring to the end cinematic. In the end cinematic, there are 3 heads spiraling around a Silver Cloak member. Those are The Fates from KQ7. What Hituro was referring to was the trailer on the home page. Near the end of the trailer, there is a vortex that shows three Black Cloak members flying towards the screen.
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2010, 02:48:44 PM »
Anyone ever notice that Crispin wears a black cloak?  Maybe he's part of the black cloak society and his attempt at killing Graham was sticking him with Cedric and feeding him old stuff from an old chest!  Maybe the events of KQ5 were simply just a distraction to keep graham busy while spells were prepared for Alexander and Rosella!  I mean, Cedric just really happened to be right there to watch graham's castle disappear?

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2010, 03:18:01 PM »
Ya, and Crispin is really Shadrack... he was getting back at Mordack for being such a ninny at chess...  

...or have you noticed you never see Mordack and Crispin in the same room together? Could they be the same individual? Hmm...

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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #33 on: July 23, 2010, 04:30:07 PM »
I just realized that Lady Elspeth Tsepish wore a black cloak for the majority of KQ7. She might be a member too.  :o
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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #34 on: July 23, 2010, 04:38:05 PM »
Didn't Vlad Tsepish also have a black cloak?

Rosella wears a black cloak for a portion of the game as well...

Oh, Graham wore a black cloak as well back in KQ2 :p...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #35 on: July 23, 2010, 04:38:35 PM »
So did her husband for that matter, whom I want to say we saw casting some spells, IIRC? Ah, no, I'm thinking of when Edgar cast a spell to remove the blockage of the entrance to the Vulcanix Underground.

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #36 on: July 23, 2010, 04:40:09 PM »
Yep Edgar runs around hiding his identity in a tan cloak in the last chapter.

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Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #37 on: July 23, 2010, 04:41:22 PM »
Not very successfully, I have to say. I mean, was anyone playing the game really fooled by that?

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #38 on: July 23, 2010, 04:44:02 PM »
Nope not really :p...

That chapter was unfortunately broken... its a shame we couldn't have switched back and forth between Rosella and Valanice and solved puzzles as both...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

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Re: Question about the Intro
« Reply #39 on: July 23, 2010, 04:45:26 PM »
Agreed. That would've been cool...and was kind of what I thought might happen, too, but not so much. It did wrap up what it needed too, though, so there's that.

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