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Started by Hituro, July 15, 2010, 03:49:52 AM

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Hituro

Not to nit pick, but I noticed that in the first episode, upon examining the coin, it states that king graham had recently had the coins of daventry re-minted with his face instead of King Edward's.  Well... in King's Quest 6 if you examine the coin found on the beach, it states that it already has King Graham's face on it...  Just wanted to point that out :p

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Although you could argue what recently is; in KQ6 alexander was 18-19 years old, in TSL he is 21, so only 2 years of difference between those 2 games. In KQ1 Graham was 19 years old in TSL about 45 and have been king for 26 years. So 2 years out of 26 could be seen as 'recently' since many other kings might have pushed for new coins way before that.
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SurfnSwells80

Do the coins of Daventry come from the chest of coins from the first game? If so, how can you get a chest to re-mint coins??  ;)
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Baggins

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Good catch, and its something I noticed last week, and tossed up into the King's Quest Omnipedia (rather comparing the various currencies from the KQ games).

Another difference is that Daventry coin in KQ6, is actually a copper coin of Daventry...

The one in TSL is a gold Daventry coin.

Granted, the fact that it is a gold coin sidesteps the whole issue of the Chest of Gold, being the source of gold coins in Daventry. So what are they doing melting the coins from the chest and reminting with Graham's face (and previously Edward before that)?

Trivia note: In the unofficial KQ2+, the Chest of Gold coins had the face of the first king of Daventry.

On a side note, its interesting detail but if you give Hassan the copper coin in KQ6, he acts as if a copper coin would be enough fare to travel the land, if the ferry was in business. He "refuses to take Alexander's fare". Hassan has become a might more greedy in recent times  :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:.

Another trivia note: Has anyone noticed that the corroded copper coins from te catacombs in KQ6, was just a resized and modifed graphic of the copper Daventry coin? So they also have the "D" for daventry on them, LOL.
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KatieHal

Maybe the coins in the chest produce the face on the stamp, but they take a while to catch up? :)

It makes sense they'd eventually put Graham's face on there (after all, Alex's coin in KQ6 had his father's face on it). The mechanics of it, however, are a mystery. A wizard probably did it :P

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Quote from: KatieHal on July 15, 2010, 07:29:51 AM

It makes sense they'd eventually put Graham's face on there (after all, Alex's coin in KQ6 had his father's face on it). The mechanics of it, however, are a mystery. A wizard probably did it :P

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To be fair we were never told what the gold in the chest appeared like. They were always just described as "shiny gold coins" or "gold coins", what not in the early games. It wasn't until KQ5 that we saw a graphic for a gold coin in general (some Serenian mint, most likely), and the graphics for the copper coins in KQ6. The gold coins in MOE (presumably from the chest of gold, since it was Daventry's common currency in the game) had no dicernanable images, from what I recall, looking more like little golden wafers.
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- Graham took it
- A wizard did it

What more excelent excuses can we come up with?  ;)
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crayauchtin

Where does it say that Daventry's coins come from the chest? :-\

I always sort of assumed that both the Chest and the Shield are reserved for times of national emergency (which explains why we never use them in any of the other games)

If that's the case, then there's likely a mint in Daventry that makes coins just like in any other kingdom.
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Quote from: Baggins on July 15, 2010, 06:55:58 AM
Another trivia note: Has anyone noticed that the corroded copper coins from te catacombs in KQ6, was just a resized and modifed graphic of the copper Daventry coin? So they also have the "D" for daventry on them, LOL.

Um, no. As much as I remember the coins from the catacombs had the letter "C" on them like the first letter in "Charon"(When I was a kid and didn't know the whole greek mythology and stuff I always thought those were his lost coins and the dead guy was his body :) ) Although I'm talking about the Windows CD version which had better inventory sprites. I don't remember what the Dos versions looked like.
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I like the idea that they take the shiny gold coins from the endless supply of the magical chest and melt them to remint them with Graham's picture on them.  Definitely a "government employee" type job.
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Baggins

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QuoteI always sort of assumed that both the Chest and the Shield are reserved for times of national emergency (which explains why we never use them in any of the other games)
Ya, like the national emergency of a three-headed dragon attacking the castle :p... If Graham would have went out with it with his army against the dragon, "they should have been "victorious', and had no need to sacrifice maidens, heh heh.

Granted, the same magic that blocked the magic mirror from working, may have also blocked the shield and the magic chest from working as well. That would explain why people were worried about the country going bankrupt in See no Weevil, and why they weren't able to fight off the dragon as well. Similarly in the Floating Castle, the magic mirror is blocked with magic in the same way as it was in KQ3, and that magic may have blocked the shield as well at that time. Who knows...

You know everyone in daventry uses gold coins in Mask of Eternity, even the town begger. They must have terrible inflation in Daventry. :p

I think the only single reference to Daventry's gold originating from the chest actually appears in King's Quest Companion, in the KQ5 novel. I forget what the comment was about though... For all I know it might been joking about how gold was essentially worthless in Daventry, and Graham simply had no greed for it, when he went to the Desert Temple. I wonder if the second edition had anything to add to that... in the An Encyclopedia of Daventry section.

Wonders if the treasure box in KQ6 was filled with copper coins, because Daventry sees copper as being worth more than gold.  :suffer: :suffer: :suffer:

I seem to remember reading that before the iron age, iron was seen as more valuable than gold, because it was rare, and difficult to work. So you could find it buried with individuals of high rank.

As for the old coins in KQ6 disk version, check out the cursor icon both dos and enhanced windows (looks like a D to me), its less clear on the inventory icon itself though, looks more like an "o", maybe a "g" on the cd-rom enhanced verison;


The dos version is the same as far as I know in both dos disk and dos cd-rom version.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg