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Questions about (long) narrations!

Started by Cez, July 16, 2010, 03:35:25 AM

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Baggins

#80
I actually like Cedric. It is unfair to compare TSL's narrator to Cedric.

I find her nattering very annoying. If it was space quest I would be absolutely fine with her narration, but this is King's Quest, and many of her inane comments are juvenile... The fourth wall breaking doesn't fit King's Quest at all :p. (Space Quest, Yes)..

However, most of that may not necessarily be the fault of the narrator, but the dialogue she was given...
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

KatieHal

Quote from: daventry on July 19, 2010, 05:38:39 AM
Does she read this Forum and is she a Member here, have she played All of the Episodes.

She is a member and she does come to the forums--she's posted to them before in fact. As for playing the episodes, I don't know.

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

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The Hero

Quote from: Baggins on July 19, 2010, 05:48:29 AM
I actually like Cedric. It is unfair to compare TSL's narrator to Cedric.

I find her nattering very annoying. If it was space quest I would be absolutely fine with her narration, but this is King's Quest, and many of her inane comments are juvenile... The fourth wall breaking doesn't fit King's Quest at all :p. (Space Quest, Yes)..

However, most of that may not necessarily be the fault of the narrator, but the dialogue she was given...
Alexander wo wait a minute
Alexander quit making me fall
fourth wall broken end of story
 

Baggins

#83
Yep, one of the very few "broken walls" in KQ6, and its very easy to miss it. Its one of the hidden easter eggs.

A rather easy broken fourth wall to find is in the one in Pawn Shoppe, where you can talk to the "stuffed bear", and it says that its upset for being kidnapped from a small town in "California". However, for being a nod to the real world, its also done in a deadpan serious, "in-universe" sorta of way. Thus there could really be a "California" in the world of Daventry, LOL (in the way he says it).

There might be a few if you attempt to giving characters items, that make no logical sense.

Again breaking the fourth walls does exist in KQ6 (even earlier KQ games), but its much less than in TSL, and in most cases they were easter eggs, that required you to do something that you wouldn't normally figure doing.

However, in this game, there is one in almost every screen, and she goes on and on about it nattering for three-five paragraphs of text.

The narrator in KQ6 never really nattered on and on about it when it 'broke the wall' in its very few instances. He didn't break down into long tirades about Asian pop culture, Japan, anime, manga, Ninjas, Samurai, etc, etc ad nauseum. He didn't go about insulting Alexander in nearly every screen (deaths screens excepted).

I'll admit I wasn't really a fan of the extremely few examples of broken walls in KQ6 either.

Now if this was Space Quest, I would expecting this to happen, and would appreciate it.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

B'rrr

Quote from: Baggins on July 19, 2010, 06:51:18 AM
The narrator in KQ5 never really nattered on and on about it when it 'broke the wall' in its very few instances.

The Narrator in KQ5 didn't nattered on and on about anything! there was more red cross in that game then narrating!  ;)
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~Legend~

Baggins

It was a typo, it was meant to be KQ6, its been fixed. The narrator in KQ6, never really nattered, most of his things were to the point, just enough information to let you know what was going on, and usually in-universe.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

wilco64256

Does she read this Forum and is she a Member here

I have seen her post here a few times, ironically she's still a Wizard's Slave.
Weldon Hathaway

daventry

#87
What is her Username and where is her Posts, must be sad to be a Member and then read around on how her Narrations and Voice Sucks. :(

So far since the Release of Episode 1, the Narrator is the Biggest Issue ???

How will People cope to the Daughter of Cedric in the rest of the Episodes, if they think she is that Bad  :'(

wilco64256

I'd actually venture to guess that most of the unique complaints have been about the length of the episode rather than the narrator, the topics about the narrator have just lasted longer.  Either way it's really not too bad of a situation seeing as how the team has a solution for that.
Weldon Hathaway

KatieHal

Well, they can be polite and respectful in their critiques--which everyone should do anyways, in general--as they never know who's reading.

For example I'd have to say the term 'Daughter of Cedric' is a little extreme.

Katie Hallahan
~Designer, PR Director~

"Change is the constant, the signal for rebirth, the egg of the phoenix." Christina Baldwin

I have a blog!

Baggins

Seriously just saying, I think there are worse insults than "Daughter of Cedric"... That seems awefully tongue and cheek to me :p, more funny than insulting... Its not up there with "Son of a B...."
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

B'rrr

Quote from: daventry on July 19, 2010, 08:35:44 AM
What is her Username and where is her Posts, must be sad to be a Member and then read around on how her Narrations and Voice Sucks. :(

There are also quite some that were positive about her voice and narrations, though as with everything, people that have a negative opinion about something are usually louder even though they are probably fewer  ;)
~Mary Jane supporter~
~Legend~

daventry

Well i Respect her and se did an Awsome Job :D

wilco64256

I'd take a wild shot in the dark and guess that the game had at least 25,000 downloads.  I'd also guess that I've seen about 20 or so users on these forums complaining about narration.  I'd call that a very vocal minority.
Weldon Hathaway

Baggins

Well, I think every review so far has criticized the narrator as well... But critics represent a vocal minority as well. LOL.
Well, ya, King's Quest is on Earth. Daventry is very old city from a long time ago. It's in ruins now and people aren't quite sure exactly where it used to be. There are some archaeologists searching through the ruins, they think they know its Daventry. But its somewhere on Earth."-Roberta Williams http://kingsquest.wikia.com/wiki/File:Daventryisearth.ogg

kindofdoon

Quote from: wilco64256 on July 19, 2010, 09:28:53 AM
I'd take a wild shot in the dark and guess that the game had at least 25,000 downloads.  I'd also guess that I've seen about 20 or so users on these forums complaining about narration.  I'd call that a very vocal minority.

Did we ever find out how many downloads there were?

Daniel Dichter, Production/PR
daniel.dichter@postudios.com

wilco64256

A week ago we were at 13,000.  I have no idea how to see how many we're at now, I'll let Katie check on this one.
Weldon Hathaway

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Quote from: KatieHal on July 19, 2010, 08:45:38 AM
Well, they can be polite and respectful in their critiques--which everyone should do anyways, in general--as they never know who's reading.

For example I'd have to say the term 'Daughter of Cedric' is a little extreme.

I don't know what the fuss is about. I thought the narrator was fine. Although narration is kind of outdated in this generation of adventure games, I like that it is reminiscent to the King's Quest series. There was one annoying line that the narrator makes whenever the player clicks the 'touch' icon on a guard. She'll scream out "Guards! Guards!". I jumped out of my seat when it happened. Other than that line, I think she did a fine job actually narrating the story. I'll also have to applaud the writers, cause the level of detail in each description is spot on.
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