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« Reply #100 on: April 14, 2004, 07:38:49 PM »
Oh, and i want one of those cool Robotic dogs (http://www.sony.net/Products/aibo/) and an iPod (http://www.apple.com/itunes/)... I guess their not strictly PC's but I drool anyway...  <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3
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« Reply #101 on: April 14, 2004, 11:20:39 PM »
Storm make sure it is 98SE and limitations as follows:

1.  Max hard disk of 137 gigabytes
2.  No hyper-threading
3.  Ram limit of 1-1.5 gigabytes

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« Reply #102 on: April 15, 2004, 02:17:36 PM »
Storm make sure it is 98SE and limitations as follows:

1.  Max hard disk of 137 gigabytes
What happens if you've got two disks, whose combined size is more than 137 Gb? Does that mean you can't (STRIPE-)RAID-0 them?
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« Reply #103 on: April 15, 2004, 08:05:08 PM »
Storm make sure it is 98SE and limitations as follows:

1.  Max hard disk of 137 gigabytes
2.  No hyper-threading
3.  Ram limit of 1-1.5 gigabytes

Have fun :>

1 & 3 are not a problem... don't think I'll ever need or could afford anything that big  ::)

As for hyper-threading - I have no idea what that is  :-[
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« Reply #104 on: April 16, 2004, 01:41:18 AM »
hmmm... found a post of mine

...perhaps 'll post one if I can get my hands on a camara ; ) ...I'll try tomorrow ; /

i finally took time to take a pic of my 'work place' at home ; )

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« Reply #105 on: April 16, 2004, 12:53:11 PM »
Nice workplace! very tidy  ;)
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« Reply #106 on: April 16, 2004, 03:23:28 PM »
lol!, thanx i guess ; ) ...i always keep it clean ; )
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« Reply #107 on: April 16, 2004, 05:09:52 PM »
As for hyper-threading - I have no idea what that is  :-[
A new function in the new Pentium-processor. 8)
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« Reply #108 on: April 16, 2004, 07:44:00 PM »
As for hyper-threading - I have no idea what that is  :-[
A new function in the new Pentium-processor. 8)

Which does what, exactly? ???
Will I still be able to use Win98 with a processor which has that function?
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« Reply #109 on: April 16, 2004, 09:33:39 PM »
For more information on Hyper-Threading Technology check out Intel’s web site: http://www.intel.com/technology/hyperthread/

If you look at their page you’ll see Hyper-Threading Technology is rather technical but here’s the basics. The processor is optimized for better performance (similar to Motorola's /Apple’s AltiVec) .  The practical upshot is that even though your PC has one processor the OS will see it as two, or so I’m told. My PC doesn’t support it.  It’s really designed for Windows XP, and many Linux distributions.

According to Intel, Windows 98 is not compatible with Hyper-Threading:
http://www.intel.com/support/platform/ht/os.htm!

All the same you can be turned off in the bios. You can usably do this by pressing F12 or esc during boot-up.  When you PC’s boots watch carefully and the message “press “x” key for set-up” or something like that will come up. If you hit that key before Windows boots you’ll enter some screens where you can turn H-T off and set many other basic computer settings. Check your PC or motherboard’s manual for specifics…

As I’ve found H-T is in PC’s faster then 2.4 GHZ.  As both the higher speeds and the H-T technology isn’t designed for Windows 98 then I wouldn’t get it simply to save the money!
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« Reply #110 on: April 17, 2004, 12:37:15 PM »
As long as I could still use Win98, I don't mind it  :)

Not that I'll be upgrading to something like that anytime soon  :-[
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« Reply #111 on: April 17, 2004, 03:34:44 PM »
If you hit that key before Windows boots you’ll enter some screens where you can turn H-T off and set many other basic computer settings. Check your PC or motherboard’s manual for specifics…

In any case it should be: hit that key as fast as you can when the pc starts up. In my case, I can't wait until Windows boots, because that's too late. 8)
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« Reply #112 on: April 17, 2004, 03:57:06 PM »
Quite right... as long as you hit it before Windows/Linux boots. When I encounter a new PC I've never worked with I tend to have to boot it twice, once to see what key they want (etc, F12, F8, whatever) and then a second time to do it...
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« Reply #113 on: April 17, 2004, 05:29:54 PM »
Quite right... as long as you hit it before Windows/Linux boots. When I encounter a new PC I've never worked with I tend to have to boot it twice, once to see what key they want (etc, F12, F8, whatever) and then a second time to do it...

For me it's "Del" for bios setup. The F's are for Windows start-up, and I can never remember which does what... so it's a couple of boots of guessing and trying to press them in time before I get it right  :P
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« Reply #114 on: April 18, 2004, 09:20:59 AM »
For me it's "Del" for bios setup. The F's are for Windows start-up, and I can never remember which does what... so it's a couple of boots of guessing and trying to press them in time before I get it right  :P
Yeah, usually the F-s are reserved for the different Windows startup sequences (like 'Safe mode' and such). Anyway, usually I have a manual of the MB with every (new) pc I get, so if the key to access the BIOS is not shown on the screen, I look it up in that manual. 8)
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« Reply #115 on: April 18, 2004, 09:36:12 AM »
I'm sure I had a motherboard manual somewhere... but I've never used it so I have no idea where it is  :-[
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« Reply #116 on: April 18, 2004, 10:23:10 AM »
I'm sure I had a motherboard manual somewhere... but I've never used it so I have no idea where it is  :-[
That's why I keep the MB-boxes. ;D
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« Reply #117 on: April 18, 2004, 11:13:09 AM »
Don't fret, if you watch closely the PC will tell you what key to press, you may have restart it again once you know what key is the "magic one". Might be worth writing down if you think you'll need to enter the BIOS often. As I do it so seldom and work with some many PC's I never remember...

Keeping Mobo boxes is a good idea (or at least any documents that came with it) but remember for the most part you can find the documentation and info online as long as you know what kind of mobo it is and what company it's from.

NOTE: Many manufactures will periodically release updates to the bios software if you have occasion to visit a their site make sure don't need to download a patch. BIOS patches are usually installed via a little Windows app or boot-able disk that will install the new BIOS info and redstart the PC for you.
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« Reply #118 on: April 18, 2004, 12:00:56 PM »
NOTE: Many manufactures will periodically release updates to the bios software if you have occasion to visit a their site make sure don't need to download a patch. BIOS patches are usually installed via a little Windows app or boot-able disk that will install the new BIOS info and redstart the PC for you.
WARNING: flashing a BIOS or EPROM can be dangerous.
Anyway, the only thing I ever flashed was a modem, because there was a new communication standard. Never flashed mobo's, because I never needed to. I stick by my rule: 'if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it'.
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« Reply #119 on: April 18, 2004, 12:22:22 PM »
I've flashed my bios once or twice (can't remember).  I did it because the update made it able to support a faster cpu (which I was about to install).  But cc's right, because of the risk involved, it's not one of those things people should do very often unless really necessary.
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