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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2010, 02:18:10 PM »
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #21 on: October 01, 2010, 02:43:27 PM »
You just blew my mind. As I may have said earlier, your theory of Graham resealing the Zodia Stone and becoming a guardian would complete the series very nicely, in my opinion.
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I think it needs to be something more than this - not just "keeping the evil bound for another thousand years" but defeating it once and for all. (I don't mean putting an end to all evil - just the evil of the BCS). Also, in Graham's dream at the end of Episode 1, there is reference to a last chance - one final choice. That sounds pretty permanent to me.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2010, 12:11:30 AM »
Maybe Graham's soul is stronger so it would make the seal permanent?
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2010, 10:36:20 PM »
Or it would still be technically removing the evil that has affected his family as they wouldn't be around at the end of the next thousand years.  Or maybe there's another reason that the seals on the stone are breaking and Graham could seal it forever.  Whatever the case, I do think that Graham will be sacrificing himself to end the evil that has oppressed his family.  It just seems to make the most sense with the foreshadowing and Graham's emotions and dialogue.

Just editing in a thought that occurred to me (because double posting is of the devil) that might explain why the seals on the stone aren't holding and why Graham may need to sacrifice himself.  There are the twelve signs of the Zodiac (and in the game, the dark stranger mentioned the twelve Silver Cloaks that sacrificed their souls to the stone) but the truth is that due to the elliptical path of the sun through the constellations, there is actually a thirteenth Zodiac sign.  Kind of like a leap year sign.  So if the writers are going the route of the Zodiac and that kind of astrological mysticism, it could be that one more sacrifice is needed to be the thirteenth sign.  Heck, maybe the dark stranger was a Silver Cloak and was meant to sacrifice himself along with his comrades, but wimped out at the last minute, which is why the evil was only held for a thousand years and now the bonds are weakening.  He failed and is disgraced and now Graham has to take his place and keep the evil contained forever.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #24 on: October 05, 2010, 07:40:44 AM »
 
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2010, 07:53:32 AM »
We already know that theory is wrong though, because Hagatha and Lolotte are confirmed BCS members.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #26 on: October 06, 2010, 11:46:46 AM »
I noticed in episode one that the narrator discussed Graham's fighting evil and the fact that he never succeeded in wiping evil out entirely.  

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2010, 06:50:51 PM »
After playing through Episodes 1 and 2, I've got my own ideas about the plot...

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #28 on: October 11, 2010, 11:03:03 AM »
Since Queen Valanice is also involved, what role does SHE play in the final 3 episodes?

I believe that before the battle with the Black Cloak leader's "pet" outside a spiral tower (from the preview video on Youtube), she will discover clues to stopping the evil with King Graham, Pandora's Box and the Zodia stone.

Will Edgar (who used his own magical powers against his aunt Malicia in KQ7) get involved in the final 3 episodes?
 
I believe Edgar will be transformed into the Black Cloak leader's "pet werewolf" outside the spiral tower.

And what about Queen Cassima?

For all we know, the only evidence (that Queen Cassima is still IN the castle) is her necklace, which is in King Graham's possession.  And knowing her cleverness from KQ5 and quick action from KQ6, she probably will help the royal family from many tight spots.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #29 on: October 11, 2010, 10:24:17 PM »
After playing through Episodes 1 and 2, I've got my own ideas about the plot...

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #30 on: October 11, 2010, 10:36:16 PM »
After reading a few things it got me thinking about:

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2010, 12:14:06 AM »
After reading a few things it got me thinking about:

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I really hope they do tie in the original three artifacts. Right now we've got Pandora's Box as being tied in, which is super cool but such a minor plot point comparatively. There's so much more than can be done with the Three Treasures!

I similarly hope that Shadrack is the #2 baddie, because it will make my plans for my fanfic Companion I'm writing work SOOOO much easier.
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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2010, 04:26:36 PM »
Since Queen Valanice is also involved, what role does SHE play in the final 3 episodes?
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Perhaps this is the influence of Hagatha. Although Lady Mab supposedly protects Valanice's dreams. But Valanice is part of the prophecy aswell, so it would be interesting to see what happens next.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #33 on: October 24, 2010, 12:20:30 PM »
Agreed, I don't think there's any doubt that Valanice is in the beginning stages of her own personal curse.  Suicide just isn't her, so she must be under the influence of the curse.  And it makes sense.  Why would Shadrack stop at just Graham's kids.  Surely he's going to take Graham's entire family, then start gunning for Graham himself.

It will be interesting to see if Hagatha makes an appearance.  I always felt that she was one of the biggest loose ends that was never tied up in King's Quest.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #34 on: October 24, 2010, 12:21:52 PM »
Agreed, I don't think there's any doubt that Valanice is in the beginning stages of her own personal curse.  Suicide just isn't her, so she must be under the influence of the curse.  And it makes sense.  Why would Shadrack stop at just Graham's kids.  Surely he's going to take Graham's entire family, then start gunning for Graham himself.

It will be interesting to see if Hagatha makes an appearance.  I always felt that she was one of the biggest loose ends that was never tied up in King's Quest.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #35 on: October 24, 2010, 12:31:18 PM »
Yeah, and it was really odd.  I know that KQ2 basically just treated her like a random hazard, like the witch in KQ1, but at least in the first game, you could push the witch into the oven.  You have Hagatha in the exact same situation, and it won't even let you do that!  And she was mentioned in the manual as the one who locked Valanice away.  It always seemed odd to me that you couldn't do anything except avoid her in the game.

So yeah, I'd be pretty wicked ecstatic if Hagatha makes an appearance and you get to face her down and bring that plot point full circle.  And since one of the themes of this game seems to be bringing things to a sense of finality, I'd be willing to bet that we will be dealing with Hagatha at some point.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #36 on: October 24, 2010, 12:33:36 PM »
I don't recall seeing any concept art or models of Hagatha or any other witch.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #37 on: October 24, 2010, 12:42:42 PM »
Maybe they didn't release information on all the characters so they'd have some surprises.  Having Hagatha play a role would also be a good way of having a central villain we have a connection with.  Shadrack can fulfill that role, however if it turns out that he's the great evil one that's more or less still bound in the Zodia Stone (as opposed to another, even greater evil who headed up the Black Cloaks), then that will relegate him more to the end of the game as a bad guy instead of an active antagonist.  So having Hagatha will allow us to have an antagonist who is actively going against Graham as opposed to someone casting spells from the shadows, waiting for us to go to him.

It may also be that Hagatha will start to show up in Valanice's dreams, like Manannan is with Alexander.  There's no doubt in my mind that Valanice is pretty close to going into a coma like her kids.  Hagatha could start messing with Valanice in her dreams.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #38 on: October 24, 2010, 01:11:01 PM »
T'would be interesting. We must wait to see.

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Re: Theories on what's to come!
« Reply #39 on: October 24, 2010, 01:11:47 PM »
T'would be interesting. We must wait to see.
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