POStudios Forum

The Royal Archives => TSL General Archives => Topic started by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 10:04:12 PM

Title: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 10:04:12 PM
Did anyone else notice that Alexander is wearing the SAME EXACT CLOTHES at his wedding in KQ6 that he wore for the duration of his adventure? He was shipwrecked and thus full of sand from the beach, roamed through the land of the Green Isles, through the icky Land of the Dead, all in those clothes, and he wore them for his wedding.

What makes it worse is that the game specifically says the wedding takes place "One week later" after the fight with Alhazred. Which means he's wearing clothes to his wedding that he's worn for at least a week, if not longer.

At least in KQ2, which was made 7 years earlier with much less money and less developed technology, Graham changes into a tuxedo for his wedding.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Lambonius on March 08, 2011, 10:11:30 PM
Sounds like a plot hole to me...;)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Blackthorne on March 08, 2011, 10:16:00 PM
He has 14 versions of the same outfit.

I have the same thing.  I have 14 Pink Floyd T-Shirts and 14 pairs of jeans.  I wear them all in a row for two weeks.  Everyone wonders how I manage to still smell Gain fresh in the duration.


Bt
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 08, 2011, 10:52:08 PM
That's like that episode of Doug, where everyone thinks he's trying to copy the celebrity Dylan Farnum by wearing his outfit.  He opens his closet in front of his friends and shows them that it's completely full of only his green sweater-vests, white T-shirts, and khaki shorts. ;D
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: dark-daventry on March 08, 2011, 10:59:19 PM
Actually, we don't know what he was wearing during the duration of that one week. Considering the game time-jumps a week into the future, we have absolutely no idea what he did during that week. Furthermore, the reason he never changed during his adventure in the Land of The Green Isles is because he was shipwrecked; he had no other clothes to wear besides what he was wearing when he came. I'm sure that, if he could have, he would have. He could very easily have worn something else (likely loaned to him by Cassima) during the one week intermission while his other clothes were being washed. A very logical, and very likely, answer, I think.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
Quote from: dark-daventry on March 08, 2011, 10:59:19 PM
Actually, we don't know what he was wearing during the duration of that one week. Considering the game time-jumps a week into the future, we have absolutely no idea what he did during that week. Furthermore, the reason he never changed during his adventure in the Land of The Green Isles is because he was shipwrecked; he had no other clothes to wear besides what he was wearing when he came. I'm sure that, if he could have, he would have. He could very easily have worn something else (likely loaned to him by Cassima) during the one week intermission while his other clothes were being washed. A very logical, and very likely, answer, I think.

Yeah, but what about at the wedding? He couldn't have worn something snazzier? Surely Shamir could've given him a new pair of clothes?
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Arkillian on March 08, 2011, 11:05:39 PM
And he could've had one tailor made in the Green Isles while he was there to replace his old one :/
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 08, 2011, 11:06:59 PM
Quote from: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
Yeah, but what about at the wedding? He couldn't have worn something snazzier? Surely Shamir could've given him a new pair of clothes?
He wanted to look his Davenry best.  That's the only article of clothing that survived from his homeland.  He needed to represent.  ;B

And don't call him Shirley.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 11:10:59 PM
I don't know very many people who'd wear the same pair of clothes they go on a journey with at their wedding.
He was in the Isle of the Dead in this outfit, amongst all the foul and dead zombies and spooky spirits. He journeyed in the Catacombs, a house for the dead, in these clothes. He even sat in Charon's boat, against all of the ghosts, in this outfit. It'd be like wearing the same outfit that you wore at a funeral to your wedding.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Lambonius on March 08, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
I wonder why he didn't gel his hair for the wedding.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 11:14:45 PM
Quote from: Lambonius on March 08, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
I wonder why he didn't gel his hair for the wedding.
(http://www.wrappedcabbage.co.za/fanart/art_185.jpg)

He was considering going for that look at the wedding.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 08, 2011, 11:21:47 PM
Quote from: Sir Perceval of Daventry on March 08, 2011, 11:10:59 PM
It'd be like wearing the same outfit that you wore at a funeral to your wedding.
Wait, is that bad manners...? ;)

No, I hear you, and it makes sense.  I wouldn't want to wear the exact same clothes to my wedding either, but maybe it was a point of pride for him: "Lookie here, baby, I wore these clothes my whole entire adventure in rescuing you!  Impressive, huh?  And to commemorate the adventure of marriage, I wear them to the wedding!  Mazel tov!"
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Lambonius on March 08, 2011, 11:22:21 PM
More like this:

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t97/Lambonius/Alex_cloud.png)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Enchantermon on March 09, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
Quote from: Haids1987 on March 08, 2011, 10:52:08 PMThat's like that episode of Doug, where everyone thinks he's trying to copy the celebrity Dylan Farnum by wearing his outfit.  He opens his closet in front of his friends and shows them that it's completely full of only his green sweater-vests, white T-shirts, and khaki shorts. ;D
I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought about that upon reading the OP. ^_^
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: KatieHal on March 09, 2011, 07:34:36 AM
Well, we know that's what Graham's closet looks like. He's just taking after his dad!

And hey, one week of the same clothes? Nothing compared to how long he wore the same rags when he was Mannanan's house I'll wager.

(Although, why get grossed out about the one week? He also wore them throughout his entire journey for three months overseas apparently!)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: wilco64256 on March 09, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
I think OP is actually referring to just KQ6 and does make an interesting point that you'd think those designers could've been bothered to change his outfit for just that one scene.  The outfit you've been romping all over the country and in the ocean with probably isn't going to be ideal for getting married in.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: ATMachine on March 09, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
For what it's worth, it's not like Cassima bothers to change her clothes even once either. She's wearing the same outfit seen in Alex's magic mirror vision of her throughout the game, right down to the wedding.  :suffer:
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Arkillian on March 09, 2011, 04:15:59 PM
Quote from: wilco64256 on March 09, 2011, 04:03:33 PM
I think OP is actually referring to just KQ6 and does make an interesting point that you'd think those designers could've been bothered to change his outfit for just that one scene.  The outfit you've been romping all over the country and in the ocean with probably isn't going to be ideal for getting married in.

This is true. The outfit isn't exactly wedding cut even if a replica was made. It would've been nice to see him in a more formal outfit, or something a different colour to show they bothered.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Baggins on March 10, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
QuoteWhat makes it worse is that the game specifically says the wedding takes place "One week later" after the fight with Alhazred. Which means he's wearing clothes to his wedding that he's worn for at least a week, if not longer.
One week is more than enough time to have his clothes dry cleaned and pressed!
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 10, 2011, 01:39:39 PM
Quote from: Enchantermon on March 09, 2011, 06:51:09 AM
Quote from: Haids1987 on March 08, 2011, 10:52:08 PMThat's like that episode of Doug, where everyone thinks he's trying to copy the celebrity Dylan Farnum by wearing his outfit.  He opens his closet in front of his friends and shows them that it's completely full of only his green sweater-vests, white T-shirts, and khaki shorts. ;D
I'm glad I'm not the only one who immediately thought about that upon reading the OP. ^_^
Yaaaay! :thumbsup: We are a cut of the same cloth, Enchantermon! :)

Quote from: ATMachine on March 09, 2011, 04:14:06 PM
For what it's worth, it's not like Cassima bothers to change her clothes even once either.
Oooooooh, a very good point.  Let's just say that they both have an excuse--Cassima's been stuck in her room for six months and can only wear whatever she has in her closet (it's not like she can go shopping), and Alexander had been stuck on a ship for three months.  It's valid. :P
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Enchantermon on March 10, 2011, 01:44:37 PM
Quote from: Haids1987 on March 10, 2011, 01:39:39 PMYaaaay! :thumbsup: We are a cut of the same cloth, Enchantermon! :)
Lol, indeed. :)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: wilco64256 on March 10, 2011, 05:16:05 PM
Quote from: Baggins on March 10, 2011, 11:59:26 AM
QuoteWhat makes it worse is that the game specifically says the wedding takes place "One week later" after the fight with Alhazred. Which means he's wearing clothes to his wedding that he's worn for at least a week, if not longer.
One week is more than enough time to have his clothes dry cleaned and pressed!

Especially with a genie on hand.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Baggins on March 10, 2011, 05:18:18 PM
QuoteOooooooh, a very good point.  Let's just say that they both have an excuse--Cassima's been stuck in her room for six months and can only wear whatever she has in her closet (it's not like she can go shopping), and Alexander had been stuck on a ship for three months.  It's valid
Alex didn't even change clothes before going on the ship! Maybe both have been wearing their same outfits for six months total?
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: chucklas on March 11, 2011, 10:43:16 AM
Perhaps someone could create a game to bridge the one week gap so we can know the entire story.  I bet there is some good dialog to be had in there!   ;)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Baggins on March 11, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
The KQC covered the day or two before the wedding began.
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 11, 2011, 11:32:36 PM
Quote from: Baggins on March 11, 2011, 02:15:26 PM
The KQC covered the day or two before the wedding began.
I assume this means "King's Quest Companion," right?  ('Cause when I saw that I immediately thought "King's Quest Collection.") ???
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Deloria on March 12, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Actually, the two outfits are, in fact, not the same. They're both green and gold, but the similarities end there.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100320111208/kingsquest/images/thumb/b/b4/AlexanderTSL.jpg/250px-AlexanderTSL.jpg)

(http://www.postudios.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/KQ6-Alex-and-Vizier-e1278379883251.jpg)

As you can see, his outfit in KQVI has somewhat puffed-out sleeves with cloth of gold in stripes down them, while his outfit in TSL presents rather different sleeves. Also worth noting is that the front of Alexander's tunic is decorated in TSL, but plain in KQVI. All that this thread has really proven is that he has a penchant for green and gold (which isn't unreasonable; I like them too).

Now, this is an adventure game. Let's remind ourselves that Graham has endless pockets; if we're going to complain about the lack of realism, let's start there. :P
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 12, 2011, 05:12:46 PM
Quote from: Deloria on March 12, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
All that this thread has really proven is that he has a penchant for green and gold (which isn't unreasonable; I like them too).
Gryffindor colors! !!!

Quote from: Deloria on March 12, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Now, this is an adventure game. Let's remind ourselves that Graham has endless pockets; if we're going to complain about the lack of realism, let's start there. :P
Done. (http://www.postudios.com/blog/forum/index.php?topic=10331.0) ;D
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: ATMachine on March 12, 2011, 05:43:44 PM
Quote from: Deloria on March 12, 2011, 05:09:31 PM
Actually, the two outfits are, in fact, not the same. They're both green and gold, but the similarities end there.

(http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100320111208/kingsquest/images/thumb/b/b4/AlexanderTSL.jpg/250px-AlexanderTSL.jpg)

(http://www.postudios.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/KQ6-Alex-and-Vizier-e1278379883251.jpg)

As you can see, his outfit in KQVI has somewhat puffed-out sleeves with cloth of gold in stripes down them, while his outfit in TSL presents rather different sleeves. Also worth noting is that the front of Alexander's tunic is decorated in TSL, but plain in KQVI. All that this thread has really proven is that he has a penchant for green and gold (which isn't unreasonable; I like them too).

Now, this is an adventure game. Let's remind ourselves that Graham has endless pockets; if we're going to complain about the lack of realism, let's start there. :P
Uh, I thought this topic was about Alex's attire at his wedding at the end of KQ6, not the wedding (Rosella's, right?) at the start of TSL.

Oh, and as a Harry Potter nerd, I know that the Gryffindor colors are red and gold; Slytherin's are green and silver.   ;)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Haids1987 on March 12, 2011, 06:06:43 PM
Quote from: ATMachine on March 12, 2011, 05:43:44 PM
Oh, and as a Harry Potter nerd, I know that the Gryffindor colors are red and gold; Slytherin's are green and silver.   ;)
Oh, duh. :P I knew that, but I was confusing myself.  I was envisioning the Hogwarts crest and getting all mixed up. ::)
Title: Re: Prince Alexander: Bad hygiene
Post by: Deloria on March 13, 2011, 03:22:05 AM
Quote from: ATMachine on March 12, 2011, 05:43:44 PM
Uh, I thought this topic was about Alex's attire at his wedding at the end of KQ6, not the wedding (Rosella's, right?) at the start of TSL.
Ah yes. XD My apologies. :P I shouldn't post at 2am. ::)