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Title: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: writerlove on September 29, 2012, 05:06:16 PM
Ever wondered how the bakery in Kings Quest 5 makes their custard pies? Now you can make your own. http://www.postudios.com/fourwinds/?p=1271 ... (Source:TasteofHome)
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: KatieHal on September 29, 2012, 05:31:41 PM
Winter's around the corner, folks, and that's yeti season--so stock up!
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Deloria on September 30, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/8/8f/EME_ye.svg/200px-EME_ye.svg.png)

Empirical evidence that it's a thorn and not a y. :P

Also, yay for custard. :yes: And custard pie. :yes:

EDIT: Brandon and I have different opinions of whether this is empirical evidence or not. ::) I say it is because we are all observing the thorn to be a thorn, to remain a thorn and not to turn into a y at random intervals.
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: snabbott on October 01, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Ye = The :o Why did I never realize this?

Store in the refrigerator your pocket.
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Deloria on October 02, 2012, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: snabbott on October 01, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Ye = The :o Why did I never realize this?
Oh yes. :yes: "Ye" is only ever a personal pronoun. :)
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Delling on October 02, 2012, 03:12:42 AM
Quote from: Deloria on September 30, 2012, 04:16:04 PM
EDIT: Brandon and I have different opinions of whether this is empirical evidence or not. ::) I say it is because we are all observing the thorn to be a thorn, to remain a thorn and not to turn into a y at random intervals.

Yet that assumes that people initially see it as a thorn and not a y. The modern rendering of the thorn (Þ, þ) seems to me to be much better at differentiating between the two. The whole practice of using y's for þ's started because the olde script/style þ came to look like a y and printers were too lazy to make an extra letter for the movable type press. :P See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)#Middle_and_Early_Modern_English (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)#Middle_and_Early_Modern_English).

EDIT: Also, you can't really be disgruntled about people using "ye olde..." in type... because you don't know how they're pronouncing it to themselves. :P All you can do is have this quick little tirade and hope people learn from it. XD :P
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Deloria on October 02, 2012, 09:25:49 AM
Quote from: Delling on October 02, 2012, 03:12:42 AM

EDIT: Also, you can't really be disgruntled about people using "ye olde..." in type... because you don't know how they're pronouncing it to themselves. :P All you can do is have this quick little tirade and hope people learn from it. XD :P
If they know it's spelled with a thorn, surely they would make the effort to get one from wikipedia unless they were being purposefully ironic? :P
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Delling on October 02, 2012, 01:44:57 PM
It's common practice now because it became common practice then to represent thorns with y's for lazy typographical reasons, cf. when-has-English-orthography-ever-been-"regular". :P
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: Deloria on October 02, 2012, 01:56:51 PM
Quote from: Delling on October 02, 2012, 01:44:57 PM
It's common practice now because it became common practice then to represent thorns with y's for lazy typographical reasons, cf. when-has-English-orthography-ever-been-"regular". :P
Exhibit A: The 10+ ways to pronounce "ough". :P
Title: Re: Ye Olde Bakery's Custard Pie
Post by: snabbott on October 04, 2012, 11:41:57 AM
Quote from: Deloria on October 02, 2012, 01:47:45 AM
Quote from: snabbott on October 01, 2012, 11:32:24 AM
Ye = The :o Why did I never realize this?
Oh yes. :yes: "Ye" is only ever a personal pronoun. :)
Exactly - so why didn't it ever occur to me that Ye Olde (noun) doesn't make sense unless you are addressing said noun?